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Chris Shelton

Scanning the ol' Baseball America minor league transactions blog, we see that the Mariners have signed Chris Shelton, the 28 year old first baseman known for his dynamite April in 2006 and rugged good looks. He's not on the 40-man roster, but being a righty, at this point he's the odds-on favorite to win out as the platoon partner for Russ Branyan. Which isn't anything extraordinary, but considering the two combined would cost ~$2m and could provide about as much offense as Carlos Delgado, it's pretty solid.

Since hitting nine homers in his first 51 at bats back in 2006, Shelton's only hit 37 in his last 1282 between AAA and the Majors. He's not known for possessing the kind of power that allowed him to make a name for himself a few years ago. He does have a line drive swing, though, and isn't totally clueless when it comes to understanding the strike zone. He's also helped by the fact that hanging around and hitting against lefties is a really easy job. So if Shelton does indeed go on to platoon with Branyan, he should be all right. And if he doesn't, or isn't, then whatever. No harm, no foul. It's just another neat little move that offers zero more commitment than necessary. A fellow could get used to this.

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I've wanted Chris Shelton for a lonnngggg time

also Hooray! Zduriencik finally picked up a non-Brewer!

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 9:43 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wrap my head around it yet

My brain for some reason refuses to believe that we possibly could have filled a giant hole on our roster with a cheap free agent and a minor league deal. My brain is still waiting for them to flip Felix for Prince Fielder to fill the hole

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 10:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not exactly

since Bavasi would also pick up FAT — but when he did that, it never seemed to be cheap

.

by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 8, 2008 3:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Oops!

I was reading too fast. Belated rec. I laughed on the second go-round.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooooooh, FAT Talent, like Carlos Silva

oh wait, “Talent” being the key word here. Sorry, got ahead of myself :D

by chrisisasavage on Dec 8, 2008 5:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

umm

Shelton’s splits There wasn’t more of a lefty killer out there?

by Matthew on Dec 8, 2008 10:15 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sexson!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 10:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Minor league career .987 OPS vs LH

.846 vs RH in roughly as many at bats

So I’m not sure

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 10:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reverse platoons aren't real.

I would condescendingly link an article but LL/USSM doesn’t have this in the FAQ. >:-\

by JI on Dec 8, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jamie Moyer

Reverse platoons are extremely rare, but do exist. For hitters, I’d say vanishingly rare. But Jamie Moyer’s pitching splits over such a long period of time lend credence to the notion that they can exist.

Be skeptical of any reverse splits you see, but with enough data you can say, “Okay, I’ll buy that.” Of course, about the time you get enough data, the player’s career might well be over.

And Chris Shelton’s limited numbers do not qualify.

by robbbbbb on Dec 8, 2008 10:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never claimed he had a reverse platoon split.

I’m just pointing out that he hasn’t had much success against LHP in the big leagues.

by Matthew on Dec 8, 2008 10:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's been a better hitter

against RHP than LHP over his career. I’m guessing this is fake, right?

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2008 10:17 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love signings that are welcomed with a "Whatever" by the average fan.

I am starting to get a little hopeful that GMZ will get value in trades now too.

by Sec 108 on Dec 8, 2008 10:43 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My guess

GMZ is stocking up on cheap replacement level bats to have decent options for 1B/DH. I think next on the list is a good glove/reasonable bat OF.

by eponymous_coward on Dec 8, 2008 10:49 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This made me spew my water in laughter while I was at work and got many strange looks

Looking at the Winter Meetings blog on ESPN.com. I have to pick on Steve Phillips

"The Braves are anxious to get the A.J. Burnett deal resolved. In addition to adding a starter, they’re also in the market for a left fielder. They’ve identified free agent Raul Ibanez as the best fit because he hits for power and plays solid defense. Pat Burrell and Bobby Abreu, both free agents, don’t interest the Braves as much because their defense is suspect. "

How can Phillips defend that statement. Who actually thinks he’s a good defender?

by Scrupio on Dec 8, 2008 10:49 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He used to have a reputation for having a solid arm

but otherwise..uh..

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 10:50 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am not all that convinced that Steve Phillips actually watches baseball.

Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.

by Benne on Dec 8, 2008 11:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The blogosphere didn't being correctly valuing defense until late 2005 after LL started

It understood that going from Cameron → Ibanez was bad for defense, but didn’t understand quite how bad

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like to think the shock in San Francisco made up for it.

But I feel bad that I didn’t more highly value Cameron while he was here. That’s part of why losing Beltre feels so rotten. I learned my lesson! Why must you continue punishing me!?!

by Matthew on Dec 8, 2008 2:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm still hesitant on the ole 1B platoon because I remember how the Broussard/Perez combo was supposed to be dynamite...

And yes…I’ll probably get banned lifetime banned by Jeff for even bring up Ben and failure in the same thought.

by SethGrandpa on Dec 8, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Broussard/Perez cost Cabrera/Choo.

Branyan/Shelton cost nothing aside from their salaries, which are peanuts.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This.

For the first time in years I have optimism that our GM gets it.

"It's reassuring to know that in your life, you can have no more than 32 root canals."
-T. McCarver

by Big Jared on Dec 8, 2008 12:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe Bavasi gave away a first ballot hall of famer like that.

Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!

by joof on Dec 8, 2008 4:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Regardless of how hilarious Mariners Revolution is

Cabrera is going to turn out to be a nice player, and Choo is a good COF as long as he’s cheap. We we’re so desperate for guys the last few years.

by JI on Dec 8, 2008 4:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mariners and Brewers have thus far made the cheapest talent aquisitions this offseason.

Very impressed with both organizations right now. Especially with the way the Brewers have essentially restocked their bullpen for nothing.

by JLC on Dec 8, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yankees/Sox trade?

That was pretty amazing. Anyhow, M’s should be measured by a different standard than everyone else because who they pick up to play next year doesn’t much matter. I’m reserving judgement on GMZ until I see what he gets in return for Putz and Beltre. But so far so good in terms of not hurting future years at the cost of fielding a reasonable lineup.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that trade was pretty good. I was moreso looking at teams picking up replacement level/slightly above replacement level talent via free agency.

Also, I’m finding myself surprisingly excited about this year’s Rule 5 draft. I’m expecting us to pick up some really great, unknown talent, probably a near MLB ready reliever to slot as our future closer.

by JLC on Dec 8, 2008 12:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I also expect to win a million dollars in the next 5 minutes

Holy shit I’m being blinded by unrelenting optimism. Must keep pessimism alive……..must keep pessimism alive…..

by JLC on Dec 8, 2008 12:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big whup about the Brewers

restocking the bullpen for nothing – it isn’t very hard – Bavasi – as retarded as he was about making deals/contract signings was able to put together a decent(for the most part) bullpen for cheap.

by MissoulaMarinerFan on Dec 8, 2008 12:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It isn't easy either.

Bavasi was actually good at that. It might have been the only thing he was good at, but credit where it’s due.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way

for those of you who’re impressed by Shelton’s AAA numbers last year, they’re inflated by a crazy BABIP.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed it does

but he also didn’t do shit with the Rangers, and his 2007 wasn’t very good.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 3:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

I’m just saying that his AAA numbers were pretty good even if you regress his BABIP a little. I just want a little hope Jeff.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2008 4:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm pretty happy that we got Shelton

I just would’ve been happier about it a few years ago. Like with Branyan!

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 5:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Zduriencik's response to the signing

Per Baker:

As for Chris Shelton, Zduriencik doesn’t want to get too ahead of himself for now. He’s open to the idea of Shelton competing for a platoon spot at first base.

"We’re open to anything,‘’ he said. "It will be according to his performance.’’

Seems more like a “give it a try” signing. Could be something. Could turn out to be nothing. No big loss, and no one would be attached to him (No “veterans must play through their struggles” mentality here, thankfully).

by ThundaPC on Dec 8, 2008 7:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Shelton signing reminds me of Greg Norton

Might be interesting but likely won’t be anything special.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2008 10:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Total waste of playing with numbers

2006-2008 ML numbers

Ab h 2b hr bb so avg obp slg ops
147 36 7 3 20 45 .245 .343 .367 .710
462 108 22 36 72 164 .234 .336 .519 .855
609 144 29 39 92 209 .236 .388 .476 .864

Shelton is the first row against lefties.
Branyan is the second row against righties.
The third line is a combo of the first two.

I am just messing around with numbers. Still, it is exciting to, maybe, have a first baseman with an OPS of .850~ish.

by mark sobba on Dec 8, 2008 1:30 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's best just to link your data

because the formatting never lines up

by JI on Dec 8, 2008 1:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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