OTFPOTD 12.08.08-Winter Meetings Start Today Edition
I am so anxious for the moves to get rolling I don't know what to do. It's entirely possible we'll be saying goodbye to some familiar (and in some cases well-loved) faces before the week is out, but we may very well be saying hello to some exciting new faces as well. Should be interesting, no matter what, and I'd like to think it's going to turn out better than last year's winter meetings.
My baseball fandom is pretty all encompassing; during the season it's all about the games of course, but this time of year I'm obsessed with roster construction, the ways in which the market is evolving, and the unfamiliar names that tend to first pop up in trade speculation that might end up being tomorrow's superstars. I love this time of year in a much different way than I love the regular season, but I still love it a lot. A random prediction? The market is going to become slightly less retarded when it comes to defensive ability; more precisely, defensive liabilities might be somewhat surprised at the contract offers they get. I'm not sure that a lot of GMs understand how valuable someone like, say, Adam Everett really is, but they very well may realize how much value someone like, say, Adam Dunn gives back on defense. But we'll see. Watch Raul get 4/48 and a starting OF spot.
But those topics will most likely be discussed in greater detail elsewhere. After all, isn't the purpose of the OFFTOP keeping the real threads free of our pointless babblings? Go nuts folks. I'll leave you with this:
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It looked as if there was alot of mouse turds on that table.
That’s why I hate eating at the homes of pet owner.
I don't know about you and your dog
but I rub my cat on pretty much every available surface right before guests come over, just to see if they notice.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds like your style.
One of my favorite memories was from my college years and I was visiting my parents. My father had invited a business associate over for dinner.
The guy was a complete ass about everything from the food to how my father was doing business. After everyone was done eating my Dad got up and grabbed all of the dishes. He placed them on the kitchen floor and called our dog into the kitchen.
My Dad the told our dog it was ok to lick the plates and bowls. After he was done my Dad picked them all up put them in the cupboard.
That asswipe turned green and said he had to head home right away. I had so much respect for my Dad after that. I still laugh every time I think of that guys face.
That's fantastic.
I’m allergic to most pets and often have a hard time being in closed spaces with them, but I love them to death. Well, dogs at least. 95% of the cats I’ve ever encountered seem to want me dead.
After watching WALL-E this weekend, I've come to the conclusion that it is the most adorable movie ever made.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 7:39 AM PST reply actions
Eagles vs. Shark was pretty cute too.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
Wall-E was a better movie by far than Eagle vs. Shark
but I know what you’re saying. Whenever I recommend EvS to people, I have to say “I’m not 100% sure it’s a GOOD movie, but it’s really fun to watch”. But Wall-E is one of the few DVD’s I can actually see myself owning.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
Yep.
I saw it without my wife, and when I saw her I told her, “We need to own this movie.” And that’s saying a lot because I only own about 20 DVD’s.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions
I think we own about 5 movies
but we were both so taken by this movie I think it’ll be #6.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
You won't be sorry.
I usually love Pixar, but their movies don’t stick with me. WALL-E is sticking with me.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
I paid to see it on an airplane a couple weeks ago
after having paid to see it twice in the theater. It’s that good.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
And there may even have been a tear or two shed
although it was probably because I was cutting onions, making a lasagna for one.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Next month cannot arrive soon enough.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
January 18th is when it starts
I wouldn’t say I’m worried, but I’m prepared for it not to be as awesome as Season 1, and hoping that it is.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
I'm definitely excited
the Season 2 promo is really funny – it’s not online anywhere that I can find, but it definitely makes me not worry so much about how good the show will be.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
I'm excited for new songs.
When Season 1 started, I had already heard 90% of the songs, since they had the HBO comedy special and some other performances on YouTube. This time the songs should be all fresh.
While we're on the topic . . .
The Best of Murray. So funny.
“Oh, what are you, on your way to a dick meeting?”
Leggy Blonde is my favorite song from Season 1.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Whenever I try to get my wife's attention in a room full of people
all I have to do is say BAND MEETING at reasonable volume and that does the trick.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
That's fantastic.
Can you call me by my rap name? I’m the Rhymenoceros.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
I'm worried because the first 8 or so episodes of the first season were solid through and through.
The remaining episodes were hit and miss.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not a big Pixar fan so I didn't bother to see it.
I heard it was really political though.
Fear the NPE
Incorrect.
It’s a love story. If you choose to see it politically, you certainly can because that subtext is there, but it’s not primarily a political film.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Beer shopping is fun
I set out to buy a six pack of Anderson Valley Winter Solstice, which I did, but I also left the beer store with bottles of
Stone Double Bastard (2)
Rogue Double Dead Guy
Ninkasi Believer Red
Orkney Skullsplitter
Rogue Yellow Snow
Butte Creek Organic IPA
Butte Creek Pale Ale
Dogfish Head Palo Santo
Harviestoun Old Engine Oil Stout
HeBrew Jewbilation
Hair Of The Dog Fred
Hair Of The Dog Adam
Moral: Never go beer shopping on payday.
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Yeah, I like Fred a lot
it’s not readily available at the store by my house so I gotta go to the beer store to get some, which is annoying, but it’s worth it.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
I bought it online, so I have no idea if it's anywhere around here.
The bar down the street has Ruth, but that’s it. I should look around a bit.
Typically it's available at the Whole Foodses of the world
or other upscale grocery stores.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Seconded.
Stick to the Fred and the Adam.
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I had some Ninkasi Total Domination last weekend.
Tasty tasty.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
They're rapidly becoming one of my favorite breweries.
Gotta head to Eugene one of these days – they don’t have a pub, but you can go through the brewery and do tastings.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
How is the Double Bastard?
I almost picked one up yesterday, but ended up deciding I was too tired to have any beer.
"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin
Oh, it's delicious.
I like Arrogant Bastard pretty well, then ac mentioned that the Double’s one of his faves, and I can see why. It’s really damn good.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
I had a Believer last night.
Quite good.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Ninkasi kinda came outta nowhere but they're awesome.
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He hit 18 and 16 homers in 2006 and 2007, respectively. In limited duty.
Didn’t look hot last year, but it was less than 100 at-bats. I really don’t know much about him other than he’s ugly and he hit like 45 home runs in two weeks a few Aprils ago.
Will be 29.
Seems like a solid guy to give a few hundred at-bats to.
Pretty solid low risk, medium upside signing.
League average defence, some power, nice .340 average in AAA last year. Can draw a walk.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
Faux is at Bellagio today working.
He wants to raise some hell at the Winter Meetings and wants suggestions. So far he’s considered streaking through the trainers’ conference. Any ideas?
Send every GM his own personal hooker and charge it to Selig
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Faux: I know the last meeting ends at 6.
No exec meetings. Maybe I should sit outside the high limit area around then?
I'm just a dude, playin' a dude, playin' another dude
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
So I went to see The Prodigy in Liverpool last night.
I haven’t sweated so much in my life in a non-treadmill environment, but it was awesome. Anyone here heard of The Prodigy?
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
I'M A FIRESTARTAH
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
Change my pitch up, smack my bitch up.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
I love you guys.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
They had a decent run of popularity in the States in the late '90s, early 2000s.
Not really my type of music, but it’s definitely intense. I imagine it would make for a good show.
Aaaaaaaaand your new Seattle Sounders will look like
this. This may be the last time you see Ljungberg standing upright without clutching a knee all season.
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I'm not usually a fan of light green
but I think adidas did a pretty nice job with these.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
That's terrifying
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
I'm going to compliment you on your awesome Photoshop skills, because I don't want to believe that's real.
Dude,
if the team never wears that color, you shouldn’t either.
Man do I love midgets.
Agreed
That jersey doesn’t really look good at all, in my opinion
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
I really wanted to buy a jersey, but there's no way I'm paying money to wear that huge Xbox logo.
I’m an Xbox fan, but not to that degree. It’s like the people who put the Apple sticker on their car. You should be charging the company money for that.
You pretty much can't get football jerseys without logos
by Graham MacAree on Dec 8, 2008 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
Unless you're a West Ham fan
but I think they have a new sponsor now, actually.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
And WBA.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
Are they still sponsorless too?
I loved the fact they just went without anything on the front of their shirt – the West Ham approach of putting squad numbers on the front just looked stupid.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Ahem.
You can get them with charity logos from the only Premier League that does not advertise a company.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Dec 8, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
I work out in my Arsenal jerseys a lot of the time
and I feel like a tool because all you can see from a distance is FLY EMIRATES. I don’t like logos of any sort, but with soccer it comes with the territory, which is annoying. This is why I always loved Barcelona jerseys – they were rich enough that they didn’t have a sponsor until last season. Now, they do, but their sponsor is Unicef and Barca donates all their proceeds from shirt sales to Unicef, so that’s cool.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
I am now a fan of the Seattle Sounders.
It’s about time I got sucked into supporting an other terrible team.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
But with the MLS you have a whole league full of terrible teams from which to choose
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
City would still conspire to lose against one of them.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
THis is what happens when Darius Vassell is a primary striking option
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
So our crappers are out of service and some jackass truckdriver came in and dropped some timber anyway.
We can’t flush it down and now the office reeks of feces. Awesome.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Dec 8, 2008 8:59 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hot diggity damn
I’m in the midst of plotting my trip to Austin this week, and I’m completely overwhelmed – I’ve got about 20 restaurants and about 30 bars I want to try, but I’m only there for 4.5 days. Anyway. One bar that we’re DEFINITELY going to check out is Ginny’s Little Longhorn – it sounds like an awesome bar anyway, but Sunday afternoon is CHICKEN SHIT BINGO!!!!! This is shaping up to be an awesome weekend.
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I can't freaking wait.
I think the reason I’m so excited about checking it out it is that it’s obviously not an ironic re-creation of something from “way back when” for the benefit of hipsters – they’ve been doing it for years, and they’ve been doing it the same way the whole time. I get the sense that Austin’s kinda a hipster douchebag paradise these days, but it still has pockets like this where things are the way they’ve always been, which is what I’m seeking out.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
I've always wanted to check it out
and when my wife got sent there for two weeks for work it seemed like the perfect time. I’d always heard the following things about Austin:
- Great music scene
- Great food
- The Anti-Texas
And in my investigations into where we should eat/drink, I definitely got the impression that, like a lot of places, Austin has changed a lot since it’s been more popular – Sixth St, where all the bars/clubs are, apparently used to be nothing but good venues to see great bands, but now is sort of overrun with the ASUBoyd-type frat boy and sorority girl out to PARRRR-TAY, which is annoying, but there’s enough other cool stuff there that we can completely avoid that stuff and still have a good time.
I’m still questing for some good music to see, which is tonight’s investigation – I know NOTHING about Austin musicians, and I need to find out which ones are worth seeing.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
If you want great BBQ
You have to check out Sams BBQ
I was in Austin last April and it was delicious – The building should be condemned though.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
I do and I will check it out.
Thanks.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Great people watching to
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
BOTD...
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
If by "are we getting" you mean
“should I put one up myself”, then yes, I suppose.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
I posted this yesterday in the Friday off-topic thread, but I will post it again just to get anyone involved who might want to discuss it today.
What a bunch of crock the BCS is.
Ohio State vs. Texas is retarded. Texas should have gone up against Alabama and Ohio State shouldn’t even be in any of the BCS bowl games.
As for Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech…. yawn, booooooring. The BCS is automatically flawed by having the ACC and Big East conferences getting automatic bids. Boise State and Texas Tech would have been an intriguing matchup, but the rules don’t allow for three teams from the same conference to make BSC bowl games and won’t ever allow two teams from "non-BCS conferences" to show they can play.
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Only games I will definitely be watching: USC vs. Penn St. (Rose Bowl is always a must-see game), Utah vs. Alabama (hate Utah, but they have to represent the MWC so the conference can potentially replace the ACC or Big East some day), and Florida vs. OU (nationally championship, duh!).
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So yeah, those are my feelings. Boo to the BCS and boo to Mike Leach for turning down the UW coaching job (although it is rather funny (ironic?) that Steve Sarkisian is also a BYU alum like Leach).
I wish Boise State would have gotten in
but the Boise State-TCU game will be better than Cincy-VT.
That said- GO BUCKEYES- we don’t deserve it but I’m really hoping we can finally beat somebody good and redeem ourselves a little bit
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I'm biased as a Boise State fan,
but you should not be allowed to go undefeated and miss out completely on the BCS bowls. There are many flaws in the system, but that’s the one that’s pissing me off right now.
Last time they let them in, everyone said they’d get blown out by Oklahoma. And it turned out to be perhaps the best bowl game I’ve ever seen.
That said, now they’re coming to San Diego! The Poinsettia Bowl usually has pretty lame teams, but this year it looks great. And Oregon-Oklahoma State in the Holiday Bowl looks great, too.
The Poinsettia Bowl will be the best non BCS game
I’m pretty excited- it’s a pretty sweet non BCS consolation prize.
That said, fuck the BCS and fuck Utah
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It's funny because the Holiday Bowl is usually the best non-BCS game.
San Diegans are going to be spoiled this year.
"Last time they let them in, everyone said they’d get blown out by Oklahoma. And it turned out to be perhaps the best bowl game I’ve ever seen."
Correction: And it turned out to be the best bowl game ever seen.
Boise-OU is very likely the greatest football game ever played
college or pro
by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
And I turned it off in the 3rd Quarter
/facepalm
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I felt sick the next day
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
My dad is not a big college football fan, but he happened to be down here in Utah with me that week.
He doesn’t get to watch a lot of sports because my mom always complains about not being able to watch her shows (which she falls asleep to).
Anyway, my dad and I were going nuts together watching that game. That was a huge moment in sports because everyone could not not have been entertained.
(love the double negative)
My cousin's friend was at the game
and left after the Oklahoma touchdown to beat the traffic
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My dad turned it off when OU ran the pick back for a TD
but my brother and I kept watching and our dad had to start watching again when he heard the yelling from the hook-and-lateral
by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm legitimately stunned that they took Ohio State over Boise
and no, it’s not stupid that the ACC and Big East champs get auto bids, since those two conferences have always been associated with the Orange Bowl, and it just happens to be a down cycle for both of those conferences. In the past ten years, they’ve spit out teams like West Virginia, Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, etc.
The real travesty is that the bowls get to pick who plays in their bowls and can select ANY BCS-eligible team instead of the highest ranked or undefeated ones. Boise should be in over Ohio State and honestly, Texas Tech.
P.S. the real question is why Texas Tech isn’t raising hell over the fact that they beat Texas and UT got a BCS berth over them.
by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not
Ohio State = more TV revenue
Ohio State has a huge fan base and an even huger base of people who will watch because they hate Ohio State and want to see them trampled.
It’s all about money
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Didn't OSU share the Big ten title though?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
No
Ohio State lost to Penn State so Penn State wins based on head to head
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Someone told me that this morning
and I was wondering if it was true or not
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I will submit the ACC is in a down year, but the Big East hasn't had much consistency.
But this is why I think they should eliminate automatic BCS Bowl bids because of what conference teams play for (screw tradition because that went out the window when the BCS was created). Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, etc., consistently put good products on the field and they are never considered a force in college football simply because they are not a “BCS eligible” conference.
I hope BSU is able to leave the WAC for the MWC in the next few years. BYU and Utah left the WAC because of the reputation it had (as well as other teams like Air Force and Colorado State). We should trade out San Diego State and Boise State between the two conferences.
This is true that tradition was crushed when the BCS was created, which is why I'd prefer they go back to the system where
Rose Bowl is required to take Big Ten and Pac Ten if available (I believe this currently happens)
Fiesta Bowl takes the Big Twelve
Sugar Bowl takes the SEC
Orange Bowl takes the ACC and Big East
which leaves you with more tradition oriented bowls while still giving the BCS conference champs a place in the major bowls
by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Well keep in mind that the ACC poached the two best teams from the Big East in Miami and VT
but WVU looks like a potential monster from here on out and Louisville and Rutgers are both very good programs as well
by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Someone who knows music better than I do explain something to me:
While Pet Sounds seems like an alright album, I just don’t get what is so amazing about it that it is regarded as one of the best ever. It has three great tunes, but the rest are just kinda slow and dull. What am I missing?
Fear the NPE
Listen to it as one piece of work, not as discrete songs
It’s the story of a man slowly losing his mind over a breakup. Pay attention to the lyrics and it opens up a whole new level of that album.
and also, put it in the context of the time in which it was released – there was NOTHING like it at the time, it pretty much blew away a lot of notions of what pop music could do or be. It’s symphonic, it’s heartbreaking, it’s absolutely amazing.
And as you listen to it, note that what you’re hearing is largely the creation of one man. I could seriously listen to that album every single day and never get tired of it.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
I heart Sloop John B so much.
And God Only Knows.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
God Only Knows breaks my heart every time I hear it.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I bought it a few days ago because iTunes has it on sale for 5 bucks.
Sloop John B and God Only Knows I have always loved. The rest of the tracks just seemed a little dull. I have listened to it straight through a few time now.
Fear the NPE
LIve with it for a week or so, listen to it every day
and before long you’ll wonder what took you so long to love it. It’s that good.
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What other albums do I need to own by them?
Am I good with just Pet Sounds and Endless Summer? What album is Good Vibrations from? That is my favorite Beach Boys tune.
Fear the NPE
I can't stand any other Beach Boys stuff, to be honest
I grew up detesting the Beach Boys. A friend of mine kept insisting I’d like Pet Sounds, because it’s “not like anything else they did”, but I resisted until about 10 years ago. Now, it’s pretty much my favorite album of all time, but I still can’t stand anything else the Beach Boys did. But, as far as canonical records go, yeah, the two you have are probably good.
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The Beach Boys were my favorite band in the mid 80's.
I didn’t listen to much else up until Depeche Mode came into my scene…
I seriously own every BB record – or at least I filled in the gaps that my dad didn’t have covered. Heroes & Villains/Smiley Smile double-record, included.
Heh, after listening to this song probably 500 times, it’s no wonder I transitioned from BB into ’Mode and The Cure, etc…
I even have an autograph from David Marks. That’s how much I was into the BB back then…
You know what I just got on iTunes? This:

It’s fantastic, actually…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Dec 8, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
DON'T MAKE ME COME THERE AND KILL YOU WITH A FORK
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I think this is the earliest song I remember hearing in my life.
That or something by Jimmy Buffett or Rod Stewart. Damn you, Mom.
Same here.
I remember me and my brother TORTURING my mom by singing this song. She hates the Beach Boys.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
I've just been listening to Rod Stewart's first three solo albums this morning
and oh my god they’re amazing.
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The Faces were an amazing band
These first three or four solo albums were fantastic, but everything after that….ugh.
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I would have to agree with this assessment
It’s one of the few “classic rock” songs I never get tired of hearing.
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Only as performed by the Muppets
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I was always more of a fan
of Alice Cooper’s Muppet appearance.
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where's the fun in that?
No Kermit solo
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Sloop John B is more awesome than I can describe.
Man do I love midgets.
I second this.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Dec 8, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
This actually sends chills down my spine.
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Yeah, the way the harmony expands at 1:17.
And the amazing thing is how this songs still works without instruments. The harmonic textures are so deep, even a capella.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Why are the winter meetings during the one week of the year I really have to study?
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instead of transferring you should probably just quit school
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Wyoming's admission standards are low enough that I can fail all my classes this semester and still have over the 2.0 minimum for automatic admission
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VIVA MEDIOCRITY!
winter meetings ahoy!
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Is someone delivering it or do you have to go get it?
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I heard there was a secret cord, that RC bought and it pleased the Lord.
But you don’t really care for wood, now do ya?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I am recommending this comment.
Well played, good sir.
That song is welcome to be stuck in my head anyday.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Original flavor, or Jeff Buckley?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Me too
nobody ever mentions that one but I honestly think it’s my favorite version of the song.
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I can live with that charge
it’s not that I don’t like the Jeff Buckley version – I think that’s 1A to Rufus’ 1, but still, I just love Rufus Wainwright’s voice.
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I've been trying to figure out who Wainwright's voice reminds me of.
I know it sounds vaguely familiar, but I can’t place a finger on it.
You're buying a whole cord?
Do you have a ton of storage or is wood just really cheap right now?
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Anybody know any good talky podcasts?
I’m caught up on my podcasts and yet have 5 hours to kill on a plane later in the week, so I need some new podcasts to listen to. Here are my criteria:
1. Something with a modicum of intelligence, on any topic – in other words, not just people shouting at each other. That said, though…
2. ABSOLUTELY NO THIS AMERICAN LIFE. I can’t STAND that show, Ira Glass and his twee faux-intellectualism makes me want to set things on fire.
3. Nothing about video games, for I do not care about such things.
4. Politics OK, but again, intelligent, no shouting.
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I've never listened to This American Life, but Ira Glass came to speak at Willamette a couple years back
and he probably gave the best talk that I saw anyone give here. And I got to see Colin Powell, too. That was pretty cool.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
My wife graduated from Willamette. Her class's grad speaker? LaVar Burton.
AWESOME.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Pre or post VISOR?
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
It would have been awesome if he'd come out wearing the VISOR.
Sadly, he talked more about Reading Rainbow than Star Trek. But it was still awesome singing the Reading Rainbow song with LeVar Burton and a thousand or so other people.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Good lord I'm old
All I can think of when I hear LaVar Burton’s name is Roots.
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First thing I think of too.
Man do I love midgets.
Do they still make kids watch that in school?
Man do I love midgets.
I was a bit too old for Reading Rainbow when it started and I hate Star Trek
So Roots is about the only association I have with him.
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Tell us how you feel about Tyrone Power.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Tyrone Green.
Dark and lonely on a summer night
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking – do he bite?
Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L
My landlord.
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Power tie?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I don't know what it is about TAL that bothers me so much
A lot of it is Ira Glass’ tone, that sort of condescending-yet-not-I’m-an-everyman sort of thing he adopts, but it really irritates me. And then there’s the fact that, for the first three or so years of its existence, “This American Life” meant “This American Life As Lived By Young White Affluent Liberals From Big Cities Trying To Rationalize Their Existence”, and it pretty much put me off TAL forever.
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I've heard
this is pretty good, but I’ve never actually listened to it.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
oooh good one
I’ve been meaning to catch up with those for a while now.
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Dude in my office is ordering a starter capacitor.
All I can think of is a Flux Capacitator. I want to hop in my DeLorian and travel through time.
Fear the NPE
Take me to Friday about 5:00pm, would you?
Man do I love midgets.
I meant NEXT Friday,
but the party was pretty darn good.
Man do I love midgets.
I just read "The Name of the Wind" again.
That is such a good book.
I'm debating whether or not I actually want to work on turning in a very late piece of work for school
It is worth 10% of my grade in one class, and I do need to keep a B average to keep scholarships (which are important), but there are 5 classes and I’m doing well enough in the others to counteract.
Also, I’m expecting that I won’t be returning to school next semester because after about 5 years I want to get back to Seattle (among other reasons).
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:22 AM PST reply actions
I say you should still do it.
Better safe than sorry.
Man do I love midgets.
Oh yeah, I totally SHOULD do it. I have no doubts about that.
But the whole motivational problem of “getting started” is becoming a major issue with me around these parts… and frankly, I hate feeling like that, which is part of the reason why I’m looking for a job.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Do you need a motivational speaker?
I’VE BEEN LIVIN’ IN A VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!
Man do I love midgets.
I'm motivated.
I’m just motivated to do other things, like trying to move in with a high school friend of mine come February.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Buckle down, do the paper,
and then you can move on with no worries. Just sack up and do it.
Man do I love midgets.
How much are you getting dinged for it being very late?
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So wait, you are leaving school without graduating after 5 years simply because you want to return to Seattle?
Get in line. I haven’t lived in the Seattle are for over 8 years now and I’m still sticking it out to get my degree. Six more months is all I can think about.
How long do you have left to finish your degree? I think after investing 5 years of your life into something you should finish it. Don’t say you want to go work for awhile and then go back later to finish your degree.
(correct me if my assumptions are wrong)
I've got my BA
I’m working on an MBA.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Also, it would be another 1.5 years for me to pick up the MBA
and I think the school has done a bad job at “selling” the MBA to me. I mean, I can be happy in a job that does not require an MBA. Having a ton of money is nice, but it’s not what’s going to make me happy in the long run.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
And you can always go really slow on a graduate degree while you're working.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, ideally the fact that I'm getting scholarships doesn't matter
because if I get into a job that wants me to get an MBA, they’ll likely sponsor me.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
And depending on your BA the odds of you finding such a job are pretty decent.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Sociology.
Hooray, liberal arts! When it comes to finding jobs, I’m mostly counting on the fact that my resume is pretty well developed for a just-graduated person (three years at a couple of different jobs, a few part time positions, student organization leadership…)
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
You should be fine.
And it’s not like there aren’t applications of sociology in the business world.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
This is true, and I can make a decent argument for it.
But liberal arts majors sometimes just get thrown into this pile of “yeah, that’s useless.”
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I would recommend saying only that you have a BA on your resume.
Not what your BA is in.
I had a friend who was VP in a bank and he requested HR to toss any resumes that showed a major in the social sciences.
This is exactly why I'm transferring out of a liberal arts school
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Everyone I know that has a Liberal Arts degree is doing fine.
Yeah, you’re probably never going to become a millionaire, but there are still plenty of jobs.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
That's my problem
I look at education as an investment. If I put a lot of money in I want to get a lot of money out.
The salary difference between paying $40,000/yr for school and $8,000/yr for school seems negligible at best
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Cambridge is not some podunk liberal arts school
I’d gladly pay hundreds of thousands to go to Cambridge/Harvard/Yale/an Ivy League school with a real reputation and huge amounts of course offerings
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You're underestimating the value of liberal arts colleges.
Especially good ones. Find some Reed grads and ask how they’re doing. Well, assuming they didn’t go insane while attending Reed and play xylophone in a bus tunnel.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
The liberal arts just don't transfer as smoothly to jobs as the sciences do
It’s not to say that they’re less good or valuable but early career is much easier with a degree in compsci/engineering than otherwise.
by Graham MacAree on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Sadly this is why I gave up my plans of getting a liberal arts degree
and went with a compsci.
I will do my palaeontology Masters/PhD after I retire.
by Graham MacAree on Dec 8, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
(not that that's liberal arts, but it is pretty damn unemployable)
by Graham MacAree on Dec 8, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Same mindset with me.
I really want to get a music composition degree, but I’ve got bigger things to worry about first. Someday, though.
Hard to argue with that.
But a liberal arts degree from a school like Reed carries some pretty hefty weight. Obviously it might be harder to get high paying jobs right away that it is with a degree in the sciences, but it will pay off eventually.
I do see Corco’s point though; a lot of people that go to small but prestigious liberal arts colleges are going because they’ll never need to make a lot of money on their own and are more interested in being able to woo débutantes at fund raisers with their knowledge of the classics.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
and there is nothing less appealing to me than the idea of having to
woo débutantes at fund raisers with [my] knowledge of the classics.
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Sure.
I would have loved to go to Reed because you get a tremendous education, but they can afford to charge as much as they do because rich people’s kids like to go there.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
In terms of education, quite possibly.
But people do like seeing a name on a resume sometimes, and maybe there are other nonacademic things that make a school more worthwhile… I know Willamette is apparently #1 in the country when it comes to doing stuff about sustainability. That probably means something to a bunch of people.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think Willamette is a better option than Puget Sound
Most folks outside of the northwest haven’t heard of either, but Willamette at least has a name that sounds important. University of Puget Sound is just generic enough that at first glance it sounds like a low level commuter school
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I think you'll be surprised how many people have heard of it--but in certain areas.
They wrote the book on undergrad IPE. Therefore, IPE grads can easily get into grad schools or get jobs with development agencies, government policy jobs, that sort of thing.
But communications? Yeah, there’s not the name recognition there.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Dec 8, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
UPS has an amazing IPE program
and if I had to do it all again and ended up at UPS that’s probably what I would have majored in
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I wonder how many social-science majors are applying to banks anyway.
I mean, there’s a whole social justice bent about how banks/redlining/blockbusting/etc. are really horrible things….
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Probably more than you realize.
My point is not bank specific either. Most business environments do not want to hire people who like to lay blame rather than find solutions.
I know that sounds unfair and like a blanket assessment, but social science degrees are not popular in the business world.
That makes total sense
At UPS anyway the overwhelming attitude preached by professors is “Corporations suck work for a non profit and do something important”
which doesn’t really translate into the real world
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Working for a non-profit is cool in some ways.
I mean, you get people who aren’t there just to draw a paycheck… but the downside is that the paycheck isn’t usually so great. I got student loans to pay off.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
I knew it.
Seattle sucks you in. Visiting is dangerous. Get out of Salem!
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Dec 8, 2008 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sad that I will likely have to move away to Salem within the year
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Joe Gordon, Hall Of Famer
At least according to the Veterans’ Committee.
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Joe who?
I hate how the committee feels the need to vote someone in every year. It is becoming less of an elite group of individuals and over the course of time, everyone will eventually be selected with that kind of mentality.
Like really really good.
Wow. I kind of wish I had never seen BBRef.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
When then did it take them so long to vote him into the HOF?
What made him so good this year that he wasn’t in the last 53 years? Not saying he doesn’t deserve it or wasn’t good, but is he one of the elite players to ever play the game?
Although, second base doesn’t exactly have a long list of names…
And for what it is worth, I am one of those who won’t ever take the HOF seriously until Pete Rose is inducted. He was an elite player and deserves to be recognized for what he did on the field, not what he did off the field as a coach.
I don't know why it took them so long but he actually deserves to get in.
With all of the marginal players that are in there I’m not to be annoyed when they get one right.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Oh wow, his numbers ARE amazing.
I think we can attribute this vote to the sabermetrics community. His BA lines are not elite, but his OBP and SLG are outstanding, especially for a second baseman.
Oh hell yes.
Goblin Cock is going to have another album out next year.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 11:30 AM PST reply actions
Rob Crow rules.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I thought it was just me.
This thread and another are working fine for me, but the rest don’t autoscroll.
So it's not just me having problems then...
Man do I love midgets.
I just refreshed...but there haven't been any new comments.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I refreshed, and it's still not scrolling.
Man do I love midgets.
Dunno.
I just have Adblock running on Firefox 3.0.3.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Plus they signed a 10-year lease to anchor a new shopping development in Vancouver, Washington.
A little over two years into the lease, they pack up and move to Jantzen Beach in Oregon and leave the shopping center to die a slow death.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I was just at the Jantzen Beach one
it’s really small, it’s in the old CompUSA store and it’s cramped and annoying.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
One of my guilty musical pleasures:
They Might be Giants.
Thank you Tiny Toon Adventures for getting me hooked on them at a young age.
There shouldn't be guilt involved in liking TMBG.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I've got to go find more of their stuff.
All I’ve got are the three TMBG songs everyone has.
This business communications course from Hell I've been taking is asking me to submit a memo
that critiques the class itself.
Seeing as I don’t need this class at all and my grade is high enough, how brutally honest should I be?
As long as there aren't any subjective areas on the grade scale like "Participation"
and you’re sure the grade difference is marginal, then be totally honest
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This would be the case.
And she’s already graded all of my assignments, this is the last thing I’ll be turning in.
Still,
it’s best not to create enemies if you don’t need to.
Man do I love midgets.
She's already pissed at me for getting her in trouble with school administration.
And by that I mean “getting herself in trouble with school administration.”
Then chuck her ass under the bus.
Man do I love midgets.
by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Although it might be funnier to be over-the-top nice.
So insincerely nice it would make Lawrence Welk gag.
I'd start off really mean
and end realy really nice
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actually the other way around is better
feed her ego and crush her
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Or just take the high road and tell her what you think with no motivation other than to tell her what you think.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
That's certianly the most appropriate way to handle it
but what is the most humorous?
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You could argue that taking the high road is the most humorous
because she’s likely to be pissed but can’t actually let herself be pissed which is hilarious to watch.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Is it remotely possible you will ever have to take a class from her again?
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According to your professor, you do not have adequate skills to write this memo.
I would just forgo writing anything because it is a lose-lose situation.
Part of me wants to send a word document saying exactly that.
“I am not submitting this assignment because I have been informed that I do not possess adequate skills to compose a business memo.”
Details are sketchy.
All we’ve heard is an F-18 appears to have hit a house or two trying to land at Miramar (the Top Gun place). Pilot(s) might have ejected, but it’s not confirmed.
Man, I hope nobody is seriously injured.
Man do I love midgets.
Hmm I have a friend that live up there
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I think seattlebruin works somewhat close.
But I’m kind of an idiot when it comes to neighborhoods about I-8.
Jesus Christ is our fearless leader?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
This begs for a photoshop but I'm afraid I might be struck down by the banhammer.
Or God’s wrath. Whichever comes first.
Based on what I've heard it sounds like no one was seriously injured.
Everything is really preliminary.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, no reports of injuries/deaths yet, which is pretty amazing.
But yeah, as you said, there’s not much info out right now.
At the very least it still sucks for everyone in that area.
Especially the person’s house it crashed into.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
That's one hell of a thing to find when you come home from work
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
This cracked me up.
Such a funny idea. If you work someplace with no access to news and no one calls you or anything. Come home and see a plane where your house used to be.
This is an awesome quote:
Maurice Luque, a spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said he didn’t know if anyone was injured or property was damaged.
TV footage showed one house and two cars on fire.
Saw the actual crash in progress,
Or just the aftermath? Scary either way, but I can’t imagine watching that happen
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Aftermath
It happened while my girlfriend and I were heating pasta to take out on the patio.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Pasta with a nice smoky flavor.
Shitty. Three confirmed dead. All in the same house.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Today's high was 38º, asshole.
It was snowing, too.
I’m moving to San Diego just so I can make pasta and watch fires from my patio in December.
Watching people's houses burn isn't as fun as you think it is
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Unfun enough to make me avoid the "is that what you kids call it these days" when you mentioned heating the pasta
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In a horrifying way, yes.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
That's what kept me watching the refinery in Tacoma burn on the horizon last year
I couldn’t not watch it. I even pulled up the DOT cameras down at the I-5/Hwy 16 interchange to see it burn
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"I'd like to thank 4Chan for this award..."
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Where's JohnBai? I need a healthy dose of pissed off human being.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Always a classic.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Goddamn rotten
Were you close enough to hear/feel it? I was down in Tacoma last year when that refinery place blew up. Knocked a bunch of shit off my desk, and convinced one of the lot guys that Mt. Rainier had popped its top. Startled the hell out of me though
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I would've heard it had I not been inside
but the plane was silent pre-collision so it would’ve been a really quick noise.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Probably for the better
That’s not the kind of shit a civilian needs to see/hear, especially now knowing that there were some kids in one of the houses.
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It wasn't exactly my first exposure to a plane crash
Ironically all morning long our company was outside doing fire extinguisher training.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
eh, John Maynard Keynes would argue that we're increasing government spending now to buy a new jet which will increase aggregate demand and raise employment and GDP
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Wouldn't they replace it with a JSF or an F-22?
Man do I love midgets.
F-18s are intended to remain in service for quite some time, actually
with the new F-18E Super Hornet. F-22 is a USAF bird, and the F-18 is only operated by the Navy and Marines.
That's why I was thinking JSF.
Man do I love midgets.
Yeah, but at least for the time being, the F-18E will stay with both services as their longer range multi-role aircraft
while the JSF will replace essentially everything else
I'm so glad Boeing didn't win the JSF.
Not for any logistical reason, mind you. Their plane was so damn ugly.
That's good news.
Hopefully nobody on the ground was hurt.
Man do I love midgets.
Per San Diego Union Tribune
Crash occurred at this pointer
Is that airstrip just to the left Miramar?
Is that where the plane was trying to land?
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Just to the right, I mean
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I hope it hit Papa Doug's house
oh wait did i say that out loud
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Amazing no one's hurt (so far). It was pretty close to a high school, too.
It hit a car, then a house.
We have a photo gallery up, but it’s moving really slowly. If at all.
yeah, server's overwhelmed
I can’t get in.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
I just looked at the numbers,
and the number of page visits more than tripled between the 11-12 hour and the 12-1 hour.
Well you can see at least one photo! Pretty gnarly.
Damn. That's unpleasant.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Before I forget to ask again
what exactly is your job at the Union-Tribune? Some kind of editor, right?
Business card says copy editor (basically editing for content, grammar, syntax, etc. and writing headlines),
but I nowadays work in some other areas, editing breaking news/sports/other stuff for our website, and putting stuff online. So really, “some kind of editor” is a perfect way to put it.
So my real question here is where the hell he was coming from
because typically they circle Miramar and land going east-west, and the site is looks like he was coming directly from the west
.
The student pilot was en route from the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, operating in the Pacific Ocean off San Diego, Paap said.
So that explains the route and why he was so low.
It was a student pilot?
That’s embarassing
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Sounds like it was a power failure
if the reports of the aircraft being silent before the accident are accurate
Fire Department now saying two people died on the ground.
I thought it seemed a bit too good to be true.
Make that three (and perhaps four).
U-T:
The victims were a mother, one of her children and the child’s grandmother, said Maurice Luque, a spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department. A search for a possible fourth victim in the same home, a child, was suspended at 6 p.m. Monday and will resume Tuesday morning, he said.
Awful.
Here comes another six month debate where hippies try to get Miramar shut down
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
I was surprised planes kept taking off after the crash
You’d think they would’ve kept things on the ground for a little while. Instead, two F/18s and one big giant white behemoth took off within the hour.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
The F-18s could have been sent up as immediate defense measures.
Although the military knew what had happened, the general public did not. Some people probably took solace in knowing fighter jets were up in the air after an explosion like that.
As for the giant, white behemoth… the military used the crash as a distraction to move secret weapons off the base. Let the conspiracy theories begin!
I was reading one of those comment threads this afternoon and it made me hope for more planes falling out of the sky on local homes
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously. I don't know why we even do comments. It never leads to anything good.
So it looks like they deleted all comments, but still left it open for comments. Odd.
Congratulations to the brave pilot who ejected in time to save his own neck and let his plane crash and burn and kill civilians. Is there a medal they give for that?
Congratulations.
You are the owner of my new favorite phrase.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I guess that means it's time to run it into the ground
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Pants are always better than noise.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Obviously the airplane was still perfectly navigable
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
He actually ejected, landed at UC High School, and banged three teenage girls.
by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
So he didn't get out of the plane in time?
That’s too bad…
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
He crashed on purpose
That’s the only explanation
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Either this poster believed that
or they believed that the pilot should have died with the plane. Either way this person is an assclown.
He was a student
it was the government’s ship.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Easy Jeff,
My cousin was the government.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I swear I heard a TV reporter ask a Miramar official if it would have been possible for him to fly back to the aircraft carrier instead of crashing into a house.
I might be misrepresenting her question, but it still blew my mind.
I thinks she meant when the pilot first figured out there was a problem.
"So did it ever occur to the pilot that a better course of action may have been landing the plane safely?"
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2008 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
l hope she got a huge guffaw right to her face
Jesus Christ that’s retarded
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
You know the attitude on this site lately is really a turn off
by JI on Dec 8, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
But you're always the negative one! How does THAT work??
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
You should. Without JI we lose almost half of our high school quotient.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I see no proof you aren't still living the OC life in high school...
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
It's been deleted.
Which makes it funny, because the first comment on the story is:
“You are an idiot.”
Move to La Jolla
Papa Doug is selling his house
(www.vil lasulmare.com)
space added because I used to and will again work for him and don’t want the direct hyperlink to follow back here
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I want to live in La Jolla
it’s too expensive
You could move to a Villa at the Grand Del Mar
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Not cool, man.
My cousin was on a scavenger hunt list.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you move west
you might see Scruffy Lefty reenacting a classic cinema scene.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
REC!
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind North Park if I didn't work in the extreme north end of SD
I think I’d only want to move downtown if I went that far south. Realistically, PB is my best bet unless I find something ridiculously cheap in La Jolla
North Park has its charms. (Toronado, light traffic, central location, relatively low rents, lots of new development)
But it also has its issues (crackheads breaking my fucking car window like five times in two years and stealing all my quarters/car stereos, unsavory characters sleeping in alleys and rooting through my trash). But overall I like it.
What the hell is with this ad
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/apa/950081712.html
The worst part is that it’s a really good location for a decent price, too, yet I’m way too scared to actually call the guy based on how he types
you're just nervous because you obviously have bas credit
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
There are a lot of these around.
I think that price is only for a month, six months, something like that? People are dying to get people into all these foreclosed houses and condos and at least make some money on them. No credit checks or anything. Just moving them in. I imagine you’d see a huge rent increase when the market comes back up a bit.
And yes, the ads all look ridiculously shady.
Ads like this (at least in Seattle) are often in building slated for demolition/condo conversion.
I have a friend who lived in Eastlake in a two bedroom apartment for $600/month because she was moving to Mexico the same month they were demolishing the building.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Demolition could be it.
But no one in the city is converting apartments into condos right now. The developers completely overdid it a few years ago and now they’re kinda hosed.
Same here.
They were converting any large complex for awhile, and they were converting all of them to luxury units. The building I lived at in Ballard was slated to be converted to $300k-$500k units. Despite the fact that this building was 60 years old, in a fairly undesirable location and less than a mile from three new mega development sites. Apparently someone realized that was a really terrible idea.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I got booted from my first apartment here because they were going to convert them.
I’m pretty sure the complex is half-empty. I got $1,000 out of it, and it pushed me to find a place I liked more anyway. So yay.
The only bad thing is that they stopped converting before the city was able to increase relocation allowances.
And the same thing is likely to happen in a year or two.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I'm planning to be kind of transient for the next year or so
so I’m not really too concerned with eventual rent increases. I just want to find someone that comes across as normal on CL… good luck, eh?
Is it possible that this starts the “peruse CL looking for somewhere for sb to live” thread?
If I was an elementary school music teacher
I would be all over that product. I don’t mean that in a derogatory sense, that’s a great game to put in the hands of younger kids.
Hm. Something smells odd in the office today.
Kind of acrid ah shit it’s the backup batteries again
Hazmat team showing up to clear everyone out?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Someone in a protective suit is going to have to deal with those batteries.
Power is cut to them, at least.
You need to buy better UPSs.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
So I just emailed
my season-ticket rep at the Portland Beavers about renewing my tickets for next year (gotta lock in my 2009 AAA all-star tickets!), and I got an auto-reply saying he was at the winter meetings. I wonder what an AAA season ticket manager actually does at the winter meetings? Maybe the Padres use that as a reward or bonus, or something?
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From what I understand people usually do that to find new jobs
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...uh
as a minor league team looking for a season ticket manager will usually post the job opening down there
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Alternatively he/she is hiring for positions underneath him/her
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That's probably what it is
I went to a baseball career seminar thing in Spokane back in November, and besides deciding I do not want a career in baseball one of the key points they drove home was “If you’re looking to get hired into baseball at the major or minor league level your best bet is to go to the winter meetings. Major league roster construction is just a tiny part of what is going on down there, the majority of it is hiring for team operations”
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I was too lazy to log in and out of my other user names to make it look less like I was talking to myself
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This is interesting. I did not know this.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
We should get Felix Pie somehow
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Felix doesn't need pie. You want him to look like Silva?
;)
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Within the context of A Night At The Opera
Bohemian Rhapsody’s actually a lot less annoying than it is when it’s played 2,456 times a day on classic rock radio. I always forget how great of an album A Night At The Opera is.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I just made an apple pie.
Now that it’s done and staring me in the face all steamy and cinnamony smelling I’m afraid of eating the whole thing.
Get yourself an egg and beat it...
Man do I love midgets.
TWSS!!!!
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
I just got off the phone with our help desk
I needed access to a system that apparently has 12 different flavors to it, and I didn’t know which one I required. So he said “we have a cheat sheet I can send you that might help, do you want to take a look and decide once you see that?” So I said yeah, that’d be great. To which he replied “I will send you that in exactly seven minutes.”
What an oddly precise, yet completely incorrect (he sent it in about 54 seconds), thing to say.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Maybe he says stuff like that just to mess with/confuse people.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Could be
but the email he sent also said “Please see the attached Paul for the app names of DMS folders”, and yet there was no Paul attached, so I’m thinking it’s an odd grammar affectation rather than an attempt to mess.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
So this week I am driving a 2007 Chevy Cobalt coupe
with absolutely nothing on it. It has manual windows and locks. It blows. I want my Mazda6 back =(… oh well, at least getting my transmission replaced is covered under the warranty, right?
I have no clue how I messed it up badly enough that I need it replaced
when I was able to drive on it just fine for like 12,000 miles
Depends.
How old are you?
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, so unless you're turning 16, 18, 19 or 20 you don't get a birthday.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
"I'm 14!"
Great, go to school, who gives a shit.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Define the word "need".
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Happy Birthday!
If you were far enough north I’d offer to buy you a beer.
Man do I love midgets.
I cannot believe that I don't know anyone who wants to move into a duplex in the city for $750.
The last three or four years I always had five or six people asking me if I knew of any places to move and now? Nothing. It’s crazy. And it ain’t the economy, because this place is way cheaper and bigger than most places my friends live. It’s bizarre.
That is crazy.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
There's no benefit to me if a friend rents it, I just would like to make things easier on my landlord and pass along a good deal.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 8, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
I know, it's still just an interesting thing
I wonder if people just aren’t willing to spend the money to move (on the truck, labor, beer/pizza, whatever), no matter how good the deal, in a down economy?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
I had to be beaten into submission by my girlfriend to move literally two doors down from where we live now.
Moving sucks.
It's not the money,
it’s the physical act of moving.
Man do I love midgets.
I haven't moved in eight years,
and before that I could fit everything I owned in the back of a small pickup.
I probably haven’t really, really “moved” in 12 years.
Man do I love midgets.
If it makes you feel better I would be all over that if I were transferring to the University of Washington
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God this morning sucked
I woke up at 9 with my kid, got him set watching cartoons and was preparing myself to make a small breakfast for us. Then at 9:30 the power went out. I didn’t have to leave for work until 1:15, so I wasn’t sweating it too much. Called PSE and was told that there was a local equipment failure, and that I should have power restored by noon. I called again at 11 just to make sure nothing had changed, and it still said noon. I called just now, and it still says noon. The babysitter is at home with my kid and they are going stir crazy. This is ridiculous
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
a power transformer, obviously
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't have anything
And my kid had some cereal with no milk, since I ran out of milk on Saturday. This is why I was planning on bacon and waffles or something for the morning. More importantly, I just called again and it still says that my power is expected to be restored at noon. Fuck those guys…
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
No wonder your morning sucked.
Wake to the thought of making delicious bacon and waffles, but instead have dry cereal.
At least you didn’t have an F-18 park in your living room.
God, why do I torture myself?
I already don’t particularly like flying, yet here I am reading about commercial airline disasters on Wikipedia.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 8, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions
Put down the wikipedia and read Salon's Ask The Pilot
it’s very reassuring about flying-related anxieties and safety issues.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Flying is fine, crashing's a bitch.
Man do I love midgets.
Please tell me there isn't a sad story behind that.
Man do I love midgets.
He died in a plane crash in August.
But he loved flying his airplane – he really would have agreed with the “flying is fine, crashing’s a bitch” bit.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Please excuse my joke.
Man do I love midgets.
No! Joke away! It is actually true, though.
It’s like saying that falling off a building is fine, it’s the last foot that sucks.
Okay....
I’m glad you can still appreciate the humor.
Still, very sorry to hear about your Dad.
Man do I love midgets.
My Dad gave up flying after his 9lives ran out
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Your dad wasn't Steve Fossett, was he?
(i’m actually serious about this question, it’s not snark)
(feel free not to answer if you’re not comfortable continuing this line of inquiry)
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to recommend Michael Crichton's Airframe
but your suggestion is probably less mean.
I do the samething
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
its like me looking up 737 failures on wikipedia
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
So I've changed my mind on COD 5 and would like to announce that this game blows
until the developers fix how ridiculously overpowered tanks are and fix the God damn glitches that are allowing people to hide in floors and walls. I’ve seen at least ten different glitches so far that have led to annoyingly stupid deaths.
God, you could have at least been SUBTLE about rushing to damn game to cash in on COD4
This is why I stick with Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, fuck the tanks
They have no place in the game. And the floor and wall glitches are incredibly dumb. I remember that one game we were in with that clown that got below the map on castle and went like 15 and 1 but sucked in every other game he did. I also remember that dork that got in the tank and went like 35-0 or some shit before getting owned by the two of us in every other match we did without tanks.
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Tank + reasonable level of coordination = 30-5
Same player – tank = 10-10
I’ve played a ton over the last four days, and I’ve seen ridiculous wall glitches on Outskirts, at least two more floor glitches on Castle… UGH.
At least people are figuring out how to take down tanks though – satchel charges and sticky grenades are actually very effective, you just have to remember to equip them
its pretty easy if you have a class made for it
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Is two sticky grenades enough or do I need to get satchel charges?
I like my 2x primary grenades
nobody cares about your fantasy team
wait, I’m doing this wrong.
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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
its 4 explovies most of the time
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
This is the problem I have with COD4.
Airstrikes and helicopters always piss me off.
Get airstrike. Get helicopter. Die. Kill 15 people. Repeat over and over and never need to try shooting your gun.
People would go 50-4 and only getting 7 kills from their weapon, while everyone on the other side can’t stay alive for 5 seconds.
you guys need to be better
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I told you all it was a mediocre texture package thrown on top of the COD4 engine
but nooooooooooo you didn’t believe me.
The gameplay isn't the problem, it's the God damn multiplayer glitches
where they didn’t bother to properly test the new functionality. Once they fix these two bugs, this game is going to be rocktacular, because the maps are much better than COD4
I still love WW2 games
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I think everything gets patched btw
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
I do too, which is going to make 5 unbelievably awesome
also, since 5 was released, the level of play in 4 has become hilariously terrible, so if you want to go boost your stats…
I played halo 3 the other day for the first time in a year
I went 28-3 my first match
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
The good ol' days for me was being accused of watching other people's screen in Golden Eye.
Psh, I was so much better than that!
Couldn't say, but I don't power lever in the game
I don’t use guns I dislike just to rack up extra XP
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
I only play war
and average about 350 xp to 400 a game just off kills and captures
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
That much?
I average ~200 xp off kills in TD, but it seems like they imbalanced win/loss bonuses as compared to 4 where you could still get a nice bonus even if your team lost
I'm relentless at getting the flag
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
I die a lot
but normally take 3 with me everytime
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
That's kind of how I play, as sb has surely noticed
I play the game like a derelict, and die a ton because I’m not afraid to enter a situation that I know I can’t win.
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
I miss cod 3's 60 min War matches
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a time limit to War?
or do you play until one side wins
whats your gamertag
I have to get on with you and Kazoo
60 min is the time limit
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
in 3
in 5 its 10min
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
with overtime
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Mine is TootMyKazoo
you could probably guess sb’s pretty easily. I need to steal it back from my brother though, or go buy it for myself
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
I have yours already and for some reason never message you
maybe I’ll finally work up the corage this week.
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
And I totally knew you had mine
Not sure why I offered it up again, but there ya go
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Scruffy Lefty
We’re 3 for 3 on this
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
true
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
sent
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
We should play something other than TD though
Some of the other gametypes will likely have players that are less concerned with controlling tanks and using map glitches. Plus, some of the other gametypes are quite fun
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
I hardly run into Glitchers
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by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I'd guess
We come across them quite often in TD, but the people in that are so concerned with their K/D that they’ll do whatever they can to score easy kills
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Nothing is better then running into a room with 5 guys and stabbing all of them
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
But according to the killcam it doesn't matter where you aree pointing or how close you are
At least, that’s how it seems when I get killed by some of the lesser players in the game
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Holy crap a JMB sighting at USSM
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My internet router is in my living room.
My laptop is in my bedroom, around a corner, but roughly 20 feet from my router. I cannot obtain a goddamned connection on my laptop, even though it picks up some guy’s WEP protected connection from a block away. I apparently need a new router. Toot, you still have the one you offered prior?
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I do.
I actually literally have it here at work with me, in my backpack
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
You are a god. You said you work up north, or am I making that up?
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Oh, and there's an album you need to check out if you haven't already.
It’s older by a few years, but they’re called Oceansize. I think you would dig it.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I just checked and it looks like they are on the Zune service!
I will scoop them up when I get home, assuming my power is still on (just checked a minute ago and it isn’t- motherfuckers…)
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
140th and Aurora
I may have a few minutes to drop it by tonight, if that could work. Email me
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
That could work - I'm in Phinney if that's on your way.
I should probably just meet you outside, however, as my wife and child seem to have picked up the Bubonic Plague. Thus my bedroom quarantine.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I didn't have plans on entering your bedroom, so I may be ok
I am coming off of a Sinus Infection myself, so I’ll respect the quarantine. I’ll let you know
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Swell.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Jesus Christ
I saw that post, but didn’t click the video because I was a little scared. Now I will be afraid of all my electronic devices.
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Fully autonomous, if I read correctly
In other words, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Call in the fucking terrifying UAV kill machine, private!
And hide so it doesn’t kill us!
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Oh no that's what they're going to be modeled after!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Damn. I was just going to say that, and now it feels like the wrong time.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
You're probably right. It's just been welling up inside me.
That and I want to make sure I have a copy of Dark Knight held for me!
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Oh shit that comes out tomorrow!
Woo I’m getting it. I just hope I can find it somewhere since I’m working all day
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
If you want to know if he loves you back
It’s there in his kiss
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
This is sound advice.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
The wine drinking is underway.
Perhaps I’ll pull a Corco tonight for a bit. It’s tough- I’m an eloquent drunk.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.






