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OTFPOTD 12.08.08-Winter Meetings Start Today Edition

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I am so anxious for the moves to get rolling I don't know what to do. It's entirely possible we'll be saying goodbye to some familiar (and in some cases well-loved) faces before the week is out, but we may very well be saying hello to some exciting new faces as well. Should be interesting, no matter what, and I'd like to think it's going to turn out better than last year's winter meetings.

My baseball fandom is pretty all encompassing; during the season it's all about the games of course, but this time of year I'm obsessed with roster construction, the ways in which the market is evolving, and the unfamiliar names that tend to first pop up in trade speculation that might end up being tomorrow's superstars. I love this time of year in a much different way than I love the regular season, but I still love it a lot. A random prediction? The market is going to become slightly less retarded when it comes to defensive ability; more precisely, defensive liabilities might be somewhat surprised at the contract offers they get. I'm not sure that a lot of GMs understand how valuable someone like, say, Adam Everett really is, but they very well may realize how much value someone like, say, Adam Dunn gives back on defense. But we'll see. Watch Raul get 4/48 and a starting OF spot.

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But those topics will most likely be discussed in greater detail elsewhere. After all, isn't the purpose of the OFFTOP keeping the real threads free of our pointless babblings? Go nuts folks. I'll leave you with this:

 

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It looked as if there was alot of mouse turds on that table.

That’s why I hate eating at the homes of pet owner.

by aestivalis on Dec 8, 2008 7:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

So all pet owners are slobs?

And people without pets are clean?

Solid reasoning.

by Sec 108 on Dec 8, 2008 8:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about you and your dog

but I rub my cat on pretty much every available surface right before guests come over, just to see if they notice.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like your style.

One of my favorite memories was from my college years and I was visiting my parents. My father had invited a business associate over for dinner.

The guy was a complete ass about everything from the food to how my father was doing business. After everyone was done eating my Dad got up and grabbed all of the dishes. He placed them on the kitchen floor and called our dog into the kitchen.

My Dad the told our dog it was ok to lick the plates and bowls. After he was done my Dad picked them all up put them in the cupboard.

That asswipe turned green and said he had to head home right away. I had so much respect for my Dad after that. I still laugh every time I think of that guys face.

by Sec 108 on Dec 8, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's fantastic.

I’m allergic to most pets and often have a hard time being in closed spaces with them, but I love them to death. Well, dogs at least. 95% of the cats I’ve ever encountered seem to want me dead.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude.

Your dad ROCKS!

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Dec 8, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wall-E was a better movie by far than Eagle vs. Shark

but I know what you’re saying. Whenever I recommend EvS to people, I have to say “I’m not 100% sure it’s a GOOD movie, but it’s really fun to watch”. But Wall-E is one of the few DVD’s I can actually see myself owning.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 7:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

I saw it without my wife, and when I saw her I told her, “We need to own this movie.” And that’s saying a lot because I only own about 20 DVD’s.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we own about 5 movies

but we were both so taken by this movie I think it’ll be #6.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You won't be sorry.

I usually love Pixar, but their movies don’t stick with me. WALL-E is sticking with me.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I paid to see it on an airplane a couple weeks ago

after having paid to see it twice in the theater. It’s that good.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And there may even have been a tear or two shed

although it was probably because I was cutting onions, making a lasagna for one.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's just been raining . . . on my face.

I cannot wait for the new season.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 9:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

January 18th is when it starts

I wouldn’t say I’m worried, but I’m prepared for it not to be as awesome as Season 1, and hoping that it is.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm definitely excited

the Season 2 promo is really funny – it’s not online anywhere that I can find, but it definitely makes me not worry so much about how good the show will be.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited for new songs.

When Season 1 started, I had already heard 90% of the songs, since they had the HBO comedy special and some other performances on YouTube. This time the songs should be all fresh.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

While we're on the topic . . .

The Best of Murray. So funny.

“Oh, what are you, on your way to a dick meeting?”

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a big Pixar fan so I didn't bother to see it.

I heard it was really political though.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 8, 2008 9:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Incorrect.

It’s a love story. If you choose to see it politically, you certainly can because that subtext is there, but it’s not primarily a political film.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beer shopping is fun

I set out to buy a six pack of Anderson Valley Winter Solstice, which I did, but I also left the beer store with bottles of

Stone Double Bastard (2)
Rogue Double Dead Guy
Ninkasi Believer Red
Orkney Skullsplitter
Rogue Yellow Snow
Butte Creek Organic IPA
Butte Creek Pale Ale
Dogfish Head Palo Santo
Harviestoun Old Engine Oil Stout
HeBrew Jewbilation
Hair Of The Dog Fred
Hair Of The Dog Adam

Moral: Never go beer shopping on payday.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hair of the Dog Fred is amazing.

I’ve only had it once, but I really enjoyed it.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I like Fred a lot

it’s not readily available at the store by my house so I gotta go to the beer store to get some, which is annoying, but it’s worth it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I bought it online, so I have no idea if it's anywhere around here.

The bar down the street has Ruth, but that’s it. I should look around a bit.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Typically it's available at the Whole Foodses of the world

or other upscale grocery stores.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seconded.

Stick to the Fred and the Adam.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They're rapidly becoming one of my favorite breweries.

Gotta head to Eugene one of these days – they don’t have a pub, but you can go through the brewery and do tastings.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is the Double Bastard?

I almost picked one up yesterday, but ended up deciding I was too tired to have any beer.

"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin

by Jed MC on Dec 8, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it's delicious.

I like Arrogant Bastard pretty well, then ac mentioned that the Double’s one of his faves, and I can see why. It’s really damn good.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boise State's coming to San Diego!

Might just grab a ticket for that game.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

He hit 18 and 16 homers in 2006 and 2007, respectively. In limited duty.

Didn’t look hot last year, but it was less than 100 at-bats. I really don’t know much about him other than he’s ugly and he hit like 45 home runs in two weeks a few Aprils ago.

Will be 29.

Seems like a solid guy to give a few hundred at-bats to.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty solid low risk, medium upside signing.

League average defence, some power, nice .340 average in AAA last year. Can draw a walk.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I went to see The Prodigy in Liverpool last night.

I haven’t sweated so much in my life in a non-treadmill environment, but it was awesome. Anyone here heard of The Prodigy?

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'M A FIRESTARTAH

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love you guys.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They had a decent run of popularity in the States in the late '90s, early 2000s.

Not really my type of music, but it’s definitely intense. I imagine it would make for a good show.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaaaaaaaand your new Seattle Sounders will look like

this. This may be the last time you see Ljungberg standing upright without clutching a knee all season.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not usually a fan of light green

but I think adidas did a pretty nice job with these.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's terrifying

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude,

if the team never wears that color, you shouldn’t either.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

That jersey doesn’t really look good at all, in my opinion

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really wanted to buy a jersey, but there's no way I'm paying money to wear that huge Xbox logo.

I’m an Xbox fan, but not to that degree. It’s like the people who put the Apple sticker on their car. You should be charging the company money for that.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless you're a West Ham fan

but I think they have a new sponsor now, actually.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And WBA.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are they still sponsorless too?

I loved the fact they just went without anything on the front of their shirt – the West Ham approach of putting squad numbers on the front just looked stupid.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

I think it’s just the whole video game thing. My love of playing Xbox at home all weekend like the recluse I am is something I prefer not to advertise.

I still might buy it, though. Pretty sharp-looking. I like the away jersey.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem.

You can get them with charity logos from the only Premier League that does not advertise a company.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Dec 8, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I work out in my Arsenal jerseys a lot of the time

and I feel like a tool because all you can see from a distance is FLY EMIRATES. I don’t like logos of any sort, but with soccer it comes with the territory, which is annoying. This is why I always loved Barcelona jerseys – they were rich enough that they didn’t have a sponsor until last season. Now, they do, but their sponsor is Unicef and Barca donates all their proceeds from shirt sales to Unicef, so that’s cool.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gross.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 8, 2008 9:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hot diggity damn

I’m in the midst of plotting my trip to Austin this week, and I’m completely overwhelmed – I’ve got about 20 restaurants and about 30 bars I want to try, but I’m only there for 4.5 days. Anyway. One bar that we’re DEFINITELY going to check out is Ginny’s Little Longhorn – it sounds like an awesome bar anyway, but Sunday afternoon is CHICKEN SHIT BINGO!!!!! This is shaping up to be an awesome weekend.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can't freaking wait.

I think the reason I’m so excited about checking it out it is that it’s obviously not an ironic re-creation of something from “way back when” for the benefit of hipsters – they’ve been doing it for years, and they’ve been doing it the same way the whole time. I get the sense that Austin’s kinda a hipster douchebag paradise these days, but it still has pockets like this where things are the way they’ve always been, which is what I’m seeking out.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've always wanted to check it out

and when my wife got sent there for two weeks for work it seemed like the perfect time. I’d always heard the following things about Austin:

 - Great music scene
 - Great food
 - The Anti-Texas

And in my investigations into where we should eat/drink, I definitely got the impression that, like a lot of places, Austin has changed a lot since it’s been more popular – Sixth St, where all the bars/clubs are, apparently used to be nothing but good venues to see great bands, but now is sort of overrun with the ASUBoyd-type frat boy and sorority girl out to PARRRR-TAY, which is annoying, but there’s enough other cool stuff there that we can completely avoid that stuff and still have a good time.

I’m still questing for some good music to see, which is tonight’s investigation – I know NOTHING about Austin musicians, and I need to find out which ones are worth seeing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you want great BBQ

You have to check out Sams BBQ

I was in Austin last April and it was delicious – The building should be condemned though.

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You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do and I will check it out.

Thanks.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great people watching to

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BOTD...

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 9:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If by "are we getting" you mean

“should I put one up myself”, then yes, I suppose.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I posted this yesterday in the Friday off-topic thread, but I will post it again just to get anyone involved who might want to discuss it today.

What a bunch of crock the BCS is.

Ohio State vs. Texas is retarded. Texas should have gone up against Alabama and Ohio State shouldn’t even be in any of the BCS bowl games.

As for Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech…. yawn, booooooring. The BCS is automatically flawed by having the ACC and Big East conferences getting automatic bids. Boise State and Texas Tech would have been an intriguing matchup, but the rules don’t allow for three teams from the same conference to make BSC bowl games and won’t ever allow two teams from "non-BCS conferences" to show they can play.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Only games I will definitely be watching: USC vs. Penn St. (Rose Bowl is always a must-see game), Utah vs. Alabama (hate Utah, but they have to represent the MWC so the conference can potentially replace the ACC or Big East some day), and Florida vs. OU (nationally championship, duh!).

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So yeah, those are my feelings. Boo to the BCS and boo to Mike Leach for turning down the UW coaching job (although it is rather funny (ironic?) that Steve Sarkisian is also a BYU alum like Leach).

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 9:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wish Boise State would have gotten in

but the Boise State-TCU game will be better than Cincy-VT.

That said- GO BUCKEYES- we don’t deserve it but I’m really hoping we can finally beat somebody good and redeem ourselves a little bit

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm biased as a Boise State fan,

but you should not be allowed to go undefeated and miss out completely on the BCS bowls. There are many flaws in the system, but that’s the one that’s pissing me off right now.

Last time they let them in, everyone said they’d get blown out by Oklahoma. And it turned out to be perhaps the best bowl game I’ve ever seen.

That said, now they’re coming to San Diego! The Poinsettia Bowl usually has pretty lame teams, but this year it looks great. And Oregon-Oklahoma State in the Holiday Bowl looks great, too.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Poinsettia Bowl will be the best non BCS game

I’m pretty excited- it’s a pretty sweet non BCS consolation prize.

That said, fuck the BCS and fuck Utah

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 9:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was afraid it was just my bias.

But yes, that’s easily the best football game I’ve ever watched.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And I turned it off in the 3rd Quarter

/facepalm

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I felt sick the next day

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My dad is not a big college football fan, but he happened to be down here in Utah with me that week.

He doesn’t get to watch a lot of sports because my mom always complains about not being able to watch her shows (which she falls asleep to).

Anyway, my dad and I were going nuts together watching that game. That was a huge moment in sports because everyone could not not have been entertained.

(love the double negative)

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, man.

I was at a sportsbook in Vegas going nuts. And I had to drive back to San Diego that night. I almost crashed I was so exhausted.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My cousin's friend was at the game

and left after the Oklahoma touchdown to beat the traffic

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My dad turned it off when OU ran the pick back for a TD

but my brother and I kept watching and our dad had to start watching again when he heard the yelling from the hook-and-lateral

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It used to be available on iTunes.

The entire game or edited down for just the plays.

by dpseadv on Dec 8, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm legitimately stunned that they took Ohio State over Boise

and no, it’s not stupid that the ACC and Big East champs get auto bids, since those two conferences have always been associated with the Orange Bowl, and it just happens to be a down cycle for both of those conferences. In the past ten years, they’ve spit out teams like West Virginia, Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, etc.

The real travesty is that the bowls get to pick who plays in their bowls and can select ANY BCS-eligible team instead of the highest ranked or undefeated ones. Boise should be in over Ohio State and honestly, Texas Tech.

P.S. the real question is why Texas Tech isn’t raising hell over the fact that they beat Texas and UT got a BCS berth over them.

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not

Ohio State = more TV revenue
Ohio State has a huge fan base and an even huger base of people who will watch because they hate Ohio State and want to see them trampled.

It’s all about money

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't OSU share the Big ten title though?

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

Ohio State lost to Penn State so Penn State wins based on head to head

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone told me that this morning

and I was wondering if it was true or not

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I will submit the ACC is in a down year, but the Big East hasn't had much consistency.

But this is why I think they should eliminate automatic BCS Bowl bids because of what conference teams play for (screw tradition because that went out the window when the BCS was created). Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, etc., consistently put good products on the field and they are never considered a force in college football simply because they are not a “BCS eligible” conference.

I hope BSU is able to leave the WAC for the MWC in the next few years. BYU and Utah left the WAC because of the reputation it had (as well as other teams like Air Force and Colorado State). We should trade out San Diego State and Boise State between the two conferences.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is true that tradition was crushed when the BCS was created, which is why I'd prefer they go back to the system where

Rose Bowl is required to take Big Ten and Pac Ten if available (I believe this currently happens)
Fiesta Bowl takes the Big Twelve
Sugar Bowl takes the SEC
Orange Bowl takes the ACC and Big East

which leaves you with more tradition oriented bowls while still giving the BCS conference champs a place in the major bowls

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone who knows music better than I do explain something to me:

While Pet Sounds seems like an alright album, I just don’t get what is so amazing about it that it is regarded as one of the best ever. It has three great tunes, but the rest are just kinda slow and dull. What am I missing?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 8, 2008 9:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Listen to it as one piece of work, not as discrete songs

It’s the story of a man slowly losing his mind over a breakup. Pay attention to the lyrics and it opens up a whole new level of that album.

and also, put it in the context of the time in which it was released – there was NOTHING like it at the time, it pretty much blew away a lot of notions of what pop music could do or be. It’s symphonic, it’s heartbreaking, it’s absolutely amazing.

And as you listen to it, note that what you’re hearing is largely the creation of one man. I could seriously listen to that album every single day and never get tired of it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I bought it a few days ago because iTunes has it on sale for 5 bucks.

Sloop John B and God Only Knows I have always loved. The rest of the tracks just seemed a little dull. I have listened to it straight through a few time now.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 8, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LIve with it for a week or so, listen to it every day

and before long you’ll wonder what took you so long to love it. It’s that good.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What other albums do I need to own by them?

Am I good with just Pet Sounds and Endless Summer? What album is Good Vibrations from? That is my favorite Beach Boys tune.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 8, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't stand any other Beach Boys stuff, to be honest

I grew up detesting the Beach Boys. A friend of mine kept insisting I’d like Pet Sounds, because it’s “not like anything else they did”, but I resisted until about 10 years ago. Now, it’s pretty much my favorite album of all time, but I still can’t stand anything else the Beach Boys did. But, as far as canonical records go, yeah, the two you have are probably good.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Beach Boys were my favorite band in the mid 80's.

I didn’t listen to much else up until Depeche Mode came into my scene…

I seriously own every BB record – or at least I filled in the gaps that my dad didn’t have covered. Heroes & Villains/Smiley Smile double-record, included.

Heh, after listening to this song probably 500 times, it’s no wonder I transitioned from BB into ’Mode and The Cure, etc…

I even have an autograph from David Marks. That’s how much I was into the BB back then…

You know what I just got on iTunes? This:

It’s fantastic, actually…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Dec 8, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is the earliest song I remember hearing in my life.

That or something by Jimmy Buffett or Rod Stewart. Damn you, Mom.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here.

I remember me and my brother TORTURING my mom by singing this song. She hates the Beach Boys.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've just been listening to Rod Stewart's first three solo albums this morning

and oh my god they’re amazing.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Faces were an amazing band

These first three or four solo albums were fantastic, but everything after that….ugh.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would have to agree with this assessment

It’s one of the few “classic rock” songs I never get tired of hearing.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Only as performed by the Muppets

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was always more of a fan

of Alice Cooper’s Muppet appearance.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or, link

here

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

where's the fun in that?

No Kermit solo

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alice Cooper + Muppets = AWESOME

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I second this.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Dec 8, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the way the harmony expands at 1:17.

And the amazing thing is how this songs still works without instruments. The harmonic textures are so deep, even a capella.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

nobody ever mentions that one but I honestly think it’s my favorite version of the song.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can live with that charge

it’s not that I don’t like the Jeff Buckley version – I think that’s 1A to Rufus’ 1, but still, I just love Rufus Wainwright’s voice.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're buying a whole cord?

Do you have a ton of storage or is wood just really cheap right now?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody know any good talky podcasts?

I’m caught up on my podcasts and yet have 5 hours to kill on a plane later in the week, so I need some new podcasts to listen to. Here are my criteria:

1. Something with a modicum of intelligence, on any topic – in other words, not just people shouting at each other. That said, though…
2. ABSOLUTELY NO THIS AMERICAN LIFE. I can’t STAND that show, Ira Glass and his twee faux-intellectualism makes me want to set things on fire.
3. Nothing about video games, for I do not care about such things.
4. Politics OK, but again, intelligent, no shouting.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I've never listened to This American Life, but Ira Glass came to speak at Willamette a couple years back

and he probably gave the best talk that I saw anyone give here. And I got to see Colin Powell, too. That was pretty cool.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pre or post VISOR?

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Dec 8, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would have been awesome if he'd come out wearing the VISOR.

Sadly, he talked more about Reading Rainbow than Star Trek. But it was still awesome singing the Reading Rainbow song with LeVar Burton and a thousand or so other people.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord I'm old

All I can think of when I hear LaVar Burton’s name is Roots.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Max Power?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrone Biggums?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrone Green.

Dark and lonely on a summer night
Kill my landlord, kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking – do he bite?
Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L
My landlord.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Power tie?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly?

Reading Rainbow was the shit! Star Trek was cool, but LaVar Burton will always be Reading Rainbow to me.

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Ba da bum.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what it is about TAL that bothers me so much

A lot of it is Ira Glass’ tone, that sort of condescending-yet-not-I’m-an-everyman sort of thing he adopts, but it really irritates me. And then there’s the fact that, for the first three or so years of its existence, “This American Life” meant “This American Life As Lived By Young White Affluent Liberals From Big Cities Trying To Rationalize Their Existence”, and it pretty much put me off TAL forever.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

His voice is extraordinarily annoying too.

"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin

by Jed MC on Dec 8, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The glasses kill me.

Go back to King’s Hardware.

by waldo rojas on Dec 8, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard

this is pretty good, but I’ve never actually listened to it.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oooh good one

I’ve been meaning to catch up with those for a while now.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm debating whether or not I actually want to work on turning in a very late piece of work for school

It is worth 10% of my grade in one class, and I do need to keep a B average to keep scholarships (which are important), but there are 5 classes and I’m doing well enough in the others to counteract.

Also, I’m expecting that I won’t be returning to school next semester because after about 5 years I want to get back to Seattle (among other reasons).

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I say you should still do it.

Better safe than sorry.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, I totally SHOULD do it. I have no doubts about that.

But the whole motivational problem of “getting started” is becoming a major issue with me around these parts… and frankly, I hate feeling like that, which is part of the reason why I’m looking for a job.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you need a motivational speaker?

I’VE BEEN LIVIN’ IN A VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm motivated.

I’m just motivated to do other things, like trying to move in with a high school friend of mine come February.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Buckle down, do the paper,

and then you can move on with no worries. Just sack up and do it.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So wait, you are leaving school without graduating after 5 years simply because you want to return to Seattle?

Get in line. I haven’t lived in the Seattle are for over 8 years now and I’m still sticking it out to get my degree. Six more months is all I can think about.

How long do you have left to finish your degree? I think after investing 5 years of your life into something you should finish it. Don’t say you want to go work for awhile and then go back later to finish your degree.

(correct me if my assumptions are wrong)

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got my BA

I’m working on an MBA.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, it would be another 1.5 years for me to pick up the MBA

and I think the school has done a bad job at “selling” the MBA to me. I mean, I can be happy in a job that does not require an MBA. Having a ton of money is nice, but it’s not what’s going to make me happy in the long run.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, ideally the fact that I'm getting scholarships doesn't matter

because if I get into a job that wants me to get an MBA, they’ll likely sponsor me.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sociology.

Hooray, liberal arts! When it comes to finding jobs, I’m mostly counting on the fact that my resume is pretty well developed for a just-graduated person (three years at a couple of different jobs, a few part time positions, student organization leadership…)

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You should be fine.

And it’s not like there aren’t applications of sociology in the business world.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is true, and I can make a decent argument for it.

But liberal arts majors sometimes just get thrown into this pile of “yeah, that’s useless.”

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would recommend saying only that you have a BA on your resume.

Not what your BA is in.

I had a friend who was VP in a bank and he requested HR to toss any resumes that showed a major in the social sciences.

by Sec 108 on Dec 8, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone I know that has a Liberal Arts degree is doing fine.

Yeah, you’re probably never going to become a millionaire, but there are still plenty of jobs.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's my problem

I look at education as an investment. If I put a lot of money in I want to get a lot of money out.

The salary difference between paying $40,000/yr for school and $8,000/yr for school seems negligible at best

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cambridge is not some podunk liberal arts school

I’d gladly pay hundreds of thousands to go to Cambridge/Harvard/Yale/an Ivy League school with a real reputation and huge amounts of course offerings

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're underestimating the value of liberal arts colleges.

Especially good ones. Find some Reed grads and ask how they’re doing. Well, assuming they didn’t go insane while attending Reed and play xylophone in a bus tunnel.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The liberal arts just don't transfer as smoothly to jobs as the sciences do

It’s not to say that they’re less good or valuable but early career is much easier with a degree in compsci/engineering than otherwise.

by Graham on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to argue with that.

But a liberal arts degree from a school like Reed carries some pretty hefty weight. Obviously it might be harder to get high paying jobs right away that it is with a degree in the sciences, but it will pay off eventually.

I do see Corco’s point though; a lot of people that go to small but prestigious liberal arts colleges are going because they’ll never need to make a lot of money on their own and are more interested in being able to woo débutantes at fund raisers with their knowledge of the classics.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and there is nothing less appealing to me than the idea of having to

woo débutantes at fund raisers with [my] knowledge of the classics.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure.

I would have loved to go to Reed because you get a tremendous education, but they can afford to charge as much as they do because rich people’s kids like to go there.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In terms of education, quite possibly.

But people do like seeing a name on a resume sometimes, and maybe there are other nonacademic things that make a school more worthwhile… I know Willamette is apparently #1 in the country when it comes to doing stuff about sustainability. That probably means something to a bunch of people.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Willamette is a better option than Puget Sound

Most folks outside of the northwest haven’t heard of either, but Willamette at least has a name that sounds important. University of Puget Sound is just generic enough that at first glance it sounds like a low level commuter school

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you'll be surprised how many people have heard of it--but in certain areas.

They wrote the book on undergrad IPE. Therefore, IPE grads can easily get into grad schools or get jobs with development agencies, government policy jobs, that sort of thing.
But communications? Yeah, there’s not the name recognition there.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Dec 8, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

UPS has an amazing IPE program

and if I had to do it all again and ended up at UPS that’s probably what I would have majored in

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 7:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how many social-science majors are applying to banks anyway.

I mean, there’s a whole social justice bent about how banks/redlining/blockbusting/etc. are really horrible things….

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably more than you realize.

My point is not bank specific either. Most business environments do not want to hire people who like to lay blame rather than find solutions.

I know that sounds unfair and like a blanket assessment, but social science degrees are not popular in the business world.

by Sec 108 on Dec 8, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That makes total sense

At UPS anyway the overwhelming attitude preached by professors is “Corporations suck work for a non profit and do something important”

which doesn’t really translate into the real world

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Working for a non-profit is cool in some ways.

I mean, you get people who aren’t there just to draw a paycheck… but the downside is that the paycheck isn’t usually so great. I got student loans to pay off.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 8, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

How much left do you have with your MBA? Those usually only go 2 years, right?

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew it.

Seattle sucks you in. Visiting is dangerous. Get out of Salem!

by NOLAmarinergirl on Dec 8, 2008 7:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Gordon, Hall Of Famer

At least according to the Veterans’ Committee.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 11:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Joe who?

I hate how the committee feels the need to vote someone in every year. It is becoming less of an elite group of individuals and over the course of time, everyone will eventually be selected with that kind of mentality.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like really really good.

Wow. I kind of wish I had never seen BBRef.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When then did it take them so long to vote him into the HOF?

What made him so good this year that he wasn’t in the last 53 years? Not saying he doesn’t deserve it or wasn’t good, but is he one of the elite players to ever play the game?

Although, second base doesn’t exactly have a long list of names…

And for what it is worth, I am one of those who won’t ever take the HOF seriously until Pete Rose is inducted. He was an elite player and deserves to be recognized for what he did on the field, not what he did off the field as a coach.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why it took them so long but he actually deserves to get in.

With all of the marginal players that are in there I’m not to be annoyed when they get one right.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wow, his numbers ARE amazing.

I think we can attribute this vote to the sabermetrics community. His BA lines are not elite, but his OBP and SLG are outstanding, especially for a second baseman.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh hell yes.

Goblin Cock is going to have another album out next year.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 11:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rob Crow rules.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was just me.

This thread and another are working fine for me, but the rest don’t autoscroll.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus they signed a 10-year lease to anchor a new shopping development in Vancouver, Washington.

A little over two years into the lease, they pack up and move to Jantzen Beach in Oregon and leave the shopping center to die a slow death.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just at the Jantzen Beach one

it’s really small, it’s in the old CompUSA store and it’s cramped and annoying.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This business communications course from Hell I've been taking is asking me to submit a memo

that critiques the class itself.

Seeing as I don’t need this class at all and my grade is high enough, how brutally honest should I be?

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

As long as there aren't any subjective areas on the grade scale like "Participation"

and you’re sure the grade difference is marginal, then be totally honest

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This would be the case.

And she’s already graded all of my assignments, this is the last thing I’ll be turning in.

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still,

it’s best not to create enemies if you don’t need to.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

She's already pissed at me for getting her in trouble with school administration.

And by that I mean “getting herself in trouble with school administration.”

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Although it might be funnier to be over-the-top nice.

So insincerely nice it would make Lawrence Welk gag.

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd start off really mean

and end realy really nice

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

According to your professor, you do not have adequate skills to write this memo.

I would just forgo writing anything because it is a lose-lose situation.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Part of me wants to send a word document saying exactly that.

“I am not submitting this assignment because I have been informed that I do not possess adequate skills to compose a business memo.”

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no.

That’s horrible.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Details are sketchy.

All we’ve heard is an F-18 appears to have hit a house or two trying to land at Miramar (the Top Gun place). Pilot(s) might have ejected, but it’s not confirmed.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm I have a friend that live up there

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think seattlebruin works somewhat close.

But I’m kind of an idiot when it comes to neighborhoods about I-8.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, no reports of injuries/deaths yet, which is pretty amazing.

But yeah, as you said, there’s not much info out right now.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At the very least it still sucks for everyone in that area.

Especially the person’s house it crashed into.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This cracked me up.

Such a funny idea. If you work someplace with no access to news and no one calls you or anything. Come home and see a plane where your house used to be.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least they get a new house.

And probably a nice bonus check to go with it.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is an awesome quote:
Maurice Luque, a spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said he didn’t know if anyone was injured or property was damaged.

TV footage showed one house and two cars on fire.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

Saw it from the patio.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 7:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Saw the actual crash in progress,

Or just the aftermath? Scary either way, but I can’t imagine watching that happen

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Aftermath

It happened while my girlfriend and I were heating pasta to take out on the patio.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 7:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pasta with a nice smoky flavor.

Shitty. Three confirmed dead. All in the same house.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Today's high was 38º, asshole.

It was snowing, too.

I’m moving to San Diego just so I can make pasta and watch fires from my patio in December.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

Happens here every July as well up on the mountain.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In a horrifying way, yes.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 8:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what kept me watching the refinery in Tacoma burn on the horizon last year

I couldn’t not watch it. I even pulled up the DOT cameras down at the I-5/Hwy 16 interchange to see it burn

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"I'd like to thank 4Chan for this award..."

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 8:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Where's JohnBai? I need a healthy dose of pissed off human being.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Until then

This is a good substitute

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Always a classic.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Goddamn rotten

Were you close enough to hear/feel it? I was down in Tacoma last year when that refinery place blew up. Knocked a bunch of shit off my desk, and convinced one of the lot guys that Mt. Rainier had popped its top. Startled the hell out of me though

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would've heard it had I not been inside

but the plane was silent pre-collision so it would’ve been a really quick noise.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably for the better

That’s not the kind of shit a civilian needs to see/hear, especially now knowing that there were some kids in one of the houses.

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't exactly my first exposure to a plane crash

Ironically all morning long our company was outside doing fire extinguisher training.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 8:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, good ol' irony

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

shit

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The pilot ejected and is safe.

In the hospital with mild injuries.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's good news.

Hopefully nobody on the ground was hurt.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that airstrip just to the left Miramar?

Is that where the plane was trying to land?

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope it hit Papa Doug's house

oh wait did i say that out loud

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nope not even close

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing no one's hurt (so far). It was pretty close to a high school, too.

It hit a car, then a house.

We have a photo gallery up, but it’s moving really slowly. If at all.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, server's overwhelmed

I can’t get in.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just looked at the numbers,

and the number of page visits more than tripled between the 11-12 hour and the 12-1 hour.

Well you can see at least one photo! Pretty gnarly.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn. That's unpleasant.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Before I forget to ask again

what exactly is your job at the Union-Tribune? Some kind of editor, right?

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Business card says copy editor (basically editing for content, grammar, syntax, etc. and writing headlines),

but I nowadays work in some other areas, editing breaking news/sports/other stuff for our website, and putting stuff online. So really, “some kind of editor” is a perfect way to put it.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

As awful as these pictures are, it looks like things could have been much worse.

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So my real question here is where the hell he was coming from

because typically they circle Miramar and land going east-west, and the site is looks like he was coming directly from the west

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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The student pilot was en route from the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, operating in the Pacific Ocean off San Diego, Paap said.

So that explains the route and why he was so low.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a student pilot?

That’s embarassing

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like it was a power failure

if the reports of the aircraft being silent before the accident are accurate

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fire Department now saying two people died on the ground.

I thought it seemed a bit too good to be true.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Make that three (and perhaps four).

U-T:

The victims were a mother, one of her children and the child’s grandmother, said Maurice Luque, a spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department. A search for a possible fourth victim in the same home, a child, was suspended at 6 p.m. Monday and will resume Tuesday morning, he said.

Awful.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised planes kept taking off after the crash

You’d think they would’ve kept things on the ground for a little while. Instead, two F/18s and one big giant white behemoth took off within the hour.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The F-18s could have been sent up as immediate defense measures.

Although the military knew what had happened, the general public did not. Some people probably took solace in knowing fighter jets were up in the air after an explosion like that.

As for the giant, white behemoth… the military used the crash as a distraction to move secret weapons off the base. Let the conspiracy theories begin!

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 8:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Goddamn that's terrible

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously. I don't know why we even do comments. It never leads to anything good.

So it looks like they deleted all comments, but still left it open for comments. Odd.

Congratulations to the brave pilot who ejected in time to save his own neck and let his plane crash and burn and kill civilians. Is there a medal they give for that?

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck that guy in the pants

What a cock

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations.

You are the owner of my new favorite phrase.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And why Visible AIDS should exist

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He crashed on purpose

That’s the only explanation

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Either this poster believed that

or they believed that the pilot should have died with the plane. Either way this person is an assclown.

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He was a student

it was the government’s ship.

by Jeff on Dec 8, 2008 8:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Easy Jeff,

My cousin was the government.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I might be misrepresenting her question, but it still blew my mind.

I thinks she meant when the pilot first figured out there was a problem.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

l hope she got a huge guffaw right to her face

Jesus Christ that’s retarded

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 8:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's been deleted.

Which makes it funny, because the first comment on the story is:

“You are an idiot.”

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Move to La Jolla

Papa Doug is selling his house

(www.vil lasulmare.com)

space added because I used to and will again work for him and don’t want the direct hyperlink to follow back here

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

REC!

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good call.

I live in the neighborhood where Flight 182 crashed in 1979. Eerie to think about.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind North Park if I didn't work in the extreme north end of SD

I think I’d only want to move downtown if I went that far south. Realistically, PB is my best bet unless I find something ridiculously cheap in La Jolla

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

North Park has its charms. (Toronado, light traffic, central location, relatively low rents, lots of new development)

But it also has its issues (crackheads breaking my fucking car window like five times in two years and stealing all my quarters/car stereos, unsavory characters sleeping in alleys and rooting through my trash). But overall I like it.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is with this ad

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/apa/950081712.html

The worst part is that it’s a really good location for a decent price, too, yet I’m way too scared to actually call the guy based on how he types

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are a lot of these around.

I think that price is only for a month, six months, something like that? People are dying to get people into all these foreclosed houses and condos and at least make some money on them. No credit checks or anything. Just moving them in. I imagine you’d see a huge rent increase when the market comes back up a bit.

And yes, the ads all look ridiculously shady.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ads like this (at least in Seattle) are often in building slated for demolition/condo conversion.

I have a friend who lived in Eastlake in a two bedroom apartment for $600/month because she was moving to Mexico the same month they were demolishing the building.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Demolition could be it.

But no one in the city is converting apartments into condos right now. The developers completely overdid it a few years ago and now they’re kinda hosed.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here.

They were converting any large complex for awhile, and they were converting all of them to luxury units. The building I lived at in Ballard was slated to be converted to $300k-$500k units. Despite the fact that this building was 60 years old, in a fairly undesirable location and less than a mile from three new mega development sites. Apparently someone realized that was a really terrible idea.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I got booted from my first apartment here because they were going to convert them.

I’m pretty sure the complex is half-empty. I got $1,000 out of it, and it pushed me to find a place I liked more anyway. So yay.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm planning to be kind of transient for the next year or so

so I’m not really too concerned with eventual rent increases. I just want to find someone that comes across as normal on CL… good luck, eh?

Is it possible that this starts the “peruse CL looking for somewhere for sb to live” thread?

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I was an elementary school music teacher

I would be all over that product. I don’t mean that in a derogatory sense, that’s a great game to put in the hands of younger kids.

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I just emailed

my season-ticket rep at the Portland Beavers about renewing my tickets for next year (gotta lock in my 2009 AAA all-star tickets!), and I got an auto-reply saying he was at the winter meetings. I wonder what an AAA season ticket manager actually does at the winter meetings? Maybe the Padres use that as a reward or bonus, or something?

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

...uh

as a minor league team looking for a season ticket manager will usually post the job opening down there

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's probably what it is

I went to a baseball career seminar thing in Spokane back in November, and besides deciding I do not want a career in baseball one of the key points they drove home was “If you’re looking to get hired into baseball at the major or minor league level your best bet is to go to the winter meetings. Major league roster construction is just a tiny part of what is going on down there, the majority of it is hiring for team operations”

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We should get Felix Pie somehow

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 8, 2008 2:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Felix doesn't need pie. You want him to look like Silva?

;)

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 8, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Within the context of A Night At The Opera

Bohemian Rhapsody’s actually a lot less annoying than it is when it’s played 2,456 times a day on classic rock radio. I always forget how great of an album A Night At The Opera is.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 2:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just made an apple pie.

Now that it’s done and staring me in the face all steamy and cinnamony smelling I’m afraid of eating the whole thing.

by royalcurve on Dec 8, 2008 3:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just got off the phone with our help desk

I needed access to a system that apparently has 12 different flavors to it, and I didn’t know which one I required. So he said “we have a cheat sheet I can send you that might help, do you want to take a look and decide once you see that?” So I said yeah, that’d be great. To which he replied “I will send you that in exactly seven minutes.”

What an oddly precise, yet completely incorrect (he sent it in about 54 seconds), thing to say.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Could be

but the email he sent also said “Please see the attached Paul for the app names of DMS folders”, and yet there was no Paul attached, so I’m thinking it’s an odd grammar affectation rather than an attempt to mess.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So this week I am driving a 2007 Chevy Cobalt coupe

with absolutely nothing on it. It has manual windows and locks. It blows. I want my Mazda6 back =(… oh well, at least getting my transmission replaced is covered under the warranty, right?

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 3:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Today's my birthday.

What are you doing for me, dammit?

by James F'n X on Dec 8, 2008 3:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday!

If you were far enough north I’d offer to buy you a beer.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthiversary

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot believe that I don't know anyone who wants to move into a duplex in the city for $750.

The last three or four years I always had five or six people asking me if I knew of any places to move and now? Nothing. It’s crazy. And it ain’t the economy, because this place is way cheaper and bigger than most places my friends live. It’s bizarre.

by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That is crazy.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know, it's still just an interesting thing

I wonder if people just aren’t willing to spend the money to move (on the truck, labor, beer/pizza, whatever), no matter how good the deal, in a down economy?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not the money,

it’s the physical act of moving.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't moved in eight years,

and before that I could fit everything I owned in the back of a small pickup.

I probably haven’t really, really “moved” in 12 years.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes.

Though I really just have to open two doors and walk between them, so it should be a very easy move.

And now that I’m onboard, I’m salivating at the idea of a second bedroom to store my bike and a bunch of other shit.

by Teej on Dec 8, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

God this morning sucked

I woke up at 9 with my kid, got him set watching cartoons and was preparing myself to make a small breakfast for us. Then at 9:30 the power went out. I didn’t have to leave for work until 1:15, so I wasn’t sweating it too much. Called PSE and was told that there was a local equipment failure, and that I should have power restored by noon. I called again at 11 just to make sure nothing had changed, and it still said noon. I called just now, and it still says noon. The babysitter is at home with my kid and they are going stir crazy. This is ridiculous

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

a power transformer, obviously

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't have anything

And my kid had some cereal with no milk, since I ran out of milk on Saturday. This is why I was planning on bacon and waffles or something for the morning. More importantly, I just called again and it still says that my power is expected to be restored at noon. Fuck those guys…

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No wonder your morning sucked.

Wake to the thought of making delicious bacon and waffles, but instead have dry cereal.

At least you didn’t have an F-18 park in your living room.

by Wilder. on Dec 8, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Things could always be worse, yes

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

God, why do I torture myself?

I already don’t particularly like flying, yet here I am reading about commercial airline disasters on Wikipedia.

by Phildopip on Dec 8, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Put down the wikipedia and read Salon's Ask The Pilot

it’s very reassuring about flying-related anxieties and safety issues.

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He died in a plane crash in August.

But he loved flying his airplane – he really would have agreed with the “flying is fine, crashing’s a bitch” bit.

by royalcurve on Dec 8, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry to hear that.

Please excuse my joke.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No! Joke away! It is actually true, though.

It’s like saying that falling off a building is fine, it’s the last foot that sucks.

by royalcurve on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay....

I’m glad you can still appreciate the humor.

Still, very sorry to hear about your Dad.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 8, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My Dad gave up flying after his 9lives ran out

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your dad wasn't Steve Fossett, was he?

(i’m actually serious about this question, it’s not snark)
(feel free not to answer if you’re not comfortable continuing this line of inquiry)

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by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to recommend Michael Crichton's Airframe

but your suggestion is probably less mean.

by BrianL on Dec 8, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do the samething

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its like me looking up 737 failures on wikipedia

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I've changed my mind on COD 5 and would like to announce that this game blows

until the developers fix how ridiculously overpowered tanks are and fix the God damn glitches that are allowing people to hide in floors and walls. I’ve seen at least ten different glitches so far that have led to annoyingly stupid deaths.

God, you could have at least been SUBTLE about rushing to damn game to cash in on COD4

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, fuck the tanks

They have no place in the game. And the floor and wall glitches are incredibly dumb. I remember that one game we were in with that clown that got below the map on castle and went like 15 and 1 but sucked in every other game he did. I also remember that dork that got in the tank and went like 35-0 or some shit before getting owned by the two of us in every other match we did without tanks.

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 8, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tank + reasonable level of coordination = 30-5

Same player – tank = 10-10

I’ve played a ton over the last four days, and I’ve seen ridiculous wall glitches on Outskirts, at least two more floor glitches on Castle… UGH.

At least people are figuring out how to take down tanks though – satchel charges and sticky grenades are actually very effective, you just have to remember to equip them

by seattlebruin on Dec 8, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its pretty easy if you have a class made for it

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs