Two Draft Picks Ahoy!
by Matthew on Dec 7, 2008 9:37 AM PST
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Larry LaRue says today that Raul Ibanez will decline arbitration, further noting that ten teams are interested in signing Raul. The rest of the story is typical Raul fluff, but hey, now that we don't have to deal with his defense anymore, it doesn't raise my ire.
Since there's not too much else to the story that we haven't already talked about, how about a game of guessing his team and contract? The poster who gets closest to his actual contract, without going over, gets to be mod for a day*
I'm going to say the Phillies at three years and $30 million
* offer void in Utah, Puerto Rico, Alaska, Hawaii, South America, Papua New Guinea, Europa and wherever you actually live or currently are both physically and spirtually.
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As long as it is not the Cubs I will be happy.
by Sec 108 on Dec 7, 2008 9:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If he signs with the Cubs that will make me very happy.
Cubs: 3 yrs / $34m with 4th year option of $12.5m and a buyout of $1m
by FlaskInSafeco on Dec 7, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wooo, draft picks!
Since 2000, the only years we’ve had more than the standard number of draft picks were 2007 (1, Mangini) and 2001 (2, a second rounder and a third rounder, but that draft was pretty awful overall). Three times’ we’ve had less than fifty picks.
I favor systems that theoretically bring us good players on the cheap. Roster flexibility is crucial.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Dec 7, 2008 10:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
3 yr / $33m
Cubs. Hellooooo, Sweet Lou.
by ThundaPC on Dec 7, 2008 10:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
3 at $31.5m
Going to the… Yankees!
I will miss Raul, but god it’ll be nice to not have to watch him in the field.
by AtomicGarden on Dec 7, 2008 11:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
3 yr/$34.5 mil
The Mets. How can Omar Minaya resist?
by DKCecil on Dec 7, 2008 11:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
3yrs/$27mil from the Mets
Well, that is what I hope happens. That would give the M’s the 25th pick in the draft. Of the teams going after Ibanez, the Mets would give us the best compensation.
The M’s could be looking at a really nice draft this year, particularly if they don’t sign Fields. If the Met’s sign Ibanez, and don’t sign any higher-ranked free agents, the M’s could end up with the #2, #21, #25, and #40 in the first round. That would be a pretty interesting draft.
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2008 11:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh no! If he signs with a divisional rival we will rue this day for years.
by FlaskInSafeco on Dec 7, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
aw, what are the odds that if he signed with a rival they'd actually let him see the outfield?
by msb on Dec 7, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We can hope!
The Angels seem unable or uninterested in defense. They would put Raul out there for a 100+ games.
I’m sure he will have enough options to choose the team that will allow him to be an everyday starter.
by mark sobba on Dec 7, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raul in left, Hunter in center, and Anderson in right! Yes!
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by Taylor H on Dec 7, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett Anderson's contract was not picked up for 2009 by the Angels.
But!… they still have GMJ. His defense is definitely better than Anderson’s, but I don’t know exactly how great he ranks defensively.
by Wilder. on Dec 7, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since he can still run he's not a defensive disaster on a corner
or so one would think.
by JI on Dec 7, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about metaphorically?
3 years/24 MM from the Cubbies.
by Frosty Raptor on Dec 7, 2008 11:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers
Two years guaranteed for $12 mil per, third year option at $13 million
by Trent on Dec 7, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Phillies
2 yrs/22 mil plus option for third year at 12 mil
by Scrupio on Dec 7, 2008 12:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ha
This was EXACTLY my guess. Gillick can’t pass up the opportunity to sign Ibanez through his ‘advisory’ role a second time.
By way of differentiating, I’ll knock Ibanez a bit for the economy and say 2/20 with an $11 mil third year option.
by slamcactus on Dec 7, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mets
2/23 with a third year option at 12.5 and 1.3 buyout.
by Vatinius on Dec 7, 2008 1:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He signs with the Mets for 3/30
Jon Garland, pleasepleaseplease accept arbitration. Your mad iNNiNgZ eAtEr sKiLLz will be greater exemplified in next year's free agent class. kthxbai.
by Blicks on Dec 7, 2008 1:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
white sox
2/21
I know that you're thinking about making a Woodburn joke. Know that I will pummel you if you do.
I miss you, ATQ.
by WoodburnDave on Dec 7, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
3yrs/$20m with a 4th year option
My Prediction: The Dodgers
My Hope: Angels
I think he wants more years than money.
by mark sobba on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Would there be any residual hard feelings between Ibanez and Lou from their previous Coach/Player relationship?
Lou didn’t seem to believe Raul was starter worthy at the time. So does Raul believe Lou hindered his progress?
Most likely the best monetary offer wins.
SHOULDN"T HAVE TOOK MORE THAN YOU GAVE.
by BOGUS on Dec 7, 2008 2:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
LaRue wrote:
Lou Piniella, who saw the drive but never the payoff in Seattle, was in favor of letting Ibanez go in 2000. When he watched Ibanez play for the Royals, he told Mariners scouts he wanted that left-handed bat back.
I imagine there are no hard feelings. And Raul probably wants to play for a winner.
by Teej on Dec 7, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers
3/27 with 4th year option at $10M
by Wilder. on Dec 7, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cubs
3/30, something like 9.5/10/10.5
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on Dec 7, 2008 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So we want to root for the worst team signing him so we get the best picks yes?
by Fett42 on Dec 7, 2008 3:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Kind of depends
Remember, the first 15 picks are protected.
by Jeff on Dec 7, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We want him to sign with the worst team that finished in the top half of baseball record-wise.
by Teej on Dec 7, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers...
If the Dodgers sign him we get the #16 pick.
by SethGrandpa on Dec 7, 2008 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait no, #17...D-Backs are #16...
GO NL WEST!!!!
by SethGrandpa on Dec 7, 2008 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs. 3@$30M. $8M 1st year $10M 2nd $12M 3rd. Mutual option for 4th year at $14M (a token gesture) $1M club buyout.
I assume Ibanez a little less expensive than Abreu and Ibanez maybe more open to lesser front money allowing the Cubs to receive lefty bat now and let new owners shoulder the higher dollars in other two years.
I’d save the draft pick and opt for Abreu or Dunn.
SHOULDN"T HAVE TOOK MORE THAN YOU GAVE.
by BOGUS on Dec 7, 2008 3:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmmmm
What if multiple people are close to the actual deal?
My guess the Marlins 3 years/around 32-34 with a option for a 4th year
BOOYA! You got Slurved!
by Slurvey on Dec 7, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Houston, 2 years 20 million, third year option for 12.5 million
If you can count on anything, it’s Ed Wade’s stupidity.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 7, 2008 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I thought Houston was in extreme cost cutting mode.
by JI on Dec 7, 2008 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well they just gave Mike Hampton $2 million that they could've just thrown into a fire instead.
It would’ve be a much faster.
by SethGrandpa on Dec 7, 2008 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not until he goes the Jeff Cirillo way.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by Taylor H on Dec 7, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man you guys don't miss anything
I’ll say the White Sox after that trade
by Edgar for Pres on Dec 7, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dye trade didn't happen, if that's what you're referring to.
by Teej on Dec 7, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I need to read things before I posted this
I was hoping I could leave it and not say anything. Fine…I’ll be boring and say the Mets.
by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Robert you're a clever sumbitch
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Dec 7, 2008 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim McCarver is now in my head explaining how you covered all the bases.
And how it’s such a veteran move. You don’t know how much therapy it took to get his voice out of my head. You sir, are the devil.
by dpseadv on Dec 7, 2008 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you have WAY too much time on your hands.
by Goose on Dec 7, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wrote out all 11,000+ scenarios individually in just 20 minutes
by Robert on Dec 7, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is not necessarily something to be proud of
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 7, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The prize seems like it could be interesting
by Robert on Dec 8, 2008 8:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
uh
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How long do you think it would take to ban Jeff Matthew and Graham?
by JI on Dec 8, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Using the terms of winning this contest
I’m betting it’ll take a long, long time.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since I would be a mod for a day if I won
I think it would take less than a day
by JI on Dec 8, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure if you read the small print that you won't be mod for the day though
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 8, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to read the article again.
by JI on Dec 8, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you going to argue that your spirit is somewhere else?
by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If that fail I can kick myself for not stealing Matthew's blackeberry
by JI on Dec 8, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The case could certainly be made
that one whose spiritual being is separated from his physical being might be a wise choice for mod status.
by acblue on Dec 8, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll go low:
Mets, 18 mil (8 first year, 10 second), team option 12 million third year.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Dec 7, 2008 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rays 2 yrs 25M club option for another at 14 with a 2.5 buyout
Figured I would try one of the least likely destinations, but hey, they do need a lefty DH.
by hcoguy on Dec 7, 2008 10:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No way the Rays give him that much. They don't HAVE that much.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Dec 8, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs, 2 years @ 10mil per year, team option 12 mil 3rd year with 2mil buyout
Though I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he is a Mariner next year
by Smith18 on Dec 8, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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