A Little More On The Signing
First things first - Pravda's reporting it as a one-year deal. Financial terms weren't disclosed, but since Branyan's always been dirt cheap, I'd be surprised if we're looking at anything over $1.5-2m. For this organization, that's pocket change. There's no risk.
Moving on to more interesting stuff from Baker's latest:
Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik said he's prepared to "give Russell as many at-bats as he's had in his career.''
Branyan will get a shot at the everyday first base job.
"It looks that way,'' Zduriencik said. "I know what Russell can do.''
Things could obviously change between now and Opening Day, but as of this moment, it looks like we'll be in for some fun - Branyan's probably the strongest left-handed Mariner hitter in Safeco history, and given enough playing time, he could hit 25-30 home runs, none of them boring. Perhaps this'll spell the end of Ichiro being the biggest draw in BP. Like Richie Sexson a few years ago, Branyan's a threat to go deep every time he comes to the plate, but unlike Richie Sexson a few years ago, he doesn't carry the burden of expectations. So he's a more freeing experience. People won't be yelling at him when he strikes out in a clutch situation (and he'll do that a lot). It'll be more like "oh yeah" "what did we expect". And then when he crushes the ball he'll be treated like a hero. It's funny the way money changes the way players are received.
Russ Branyan's a stopgap. He's just a guy we brought in to hang out while we look for a longer-term solution at first base, and he's almost certainly not going to be a part of this organization's future. But he's cheap, he's entertaining, he's pretty good, and his signing is an indication that our new front office understands way more about effective roster construction than the last guys did, so I just don't see any way a reasonable person could hear about this and not be pleased. He's 95% the fun of Adam Dunn for a tiny fraction of the cost. That's good. We did good. We did good.
Update: ESPN calls it a $1.4m/1yr deal, with $500k possible in incentives.
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Junior had very little Safeco history
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know about that.
Jr. may be a fraction of what he used to be, but god damn could he shoot some missiles off that bat. His bat speed was pretty damn absurd.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 3, 2008 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
bat speed is not strength
Beltre is stronger than Griffey.
by Edgar for Pres on Dec 3, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think they broke down...
That bat speed is the most important component of batted ball distance, but my memory is probably crap.
Favor the Bold
Ok. Think of the feeling you got when you heard about the Jose Vidro trade.
Now, try your best, because this is very hard: Try to imagine the opposite feeling.
That is what good feels like! That’s the feeling you get when your team doesn’t hilariously, dependably screw something up.
the other angels fan
Remember when you took the garbage out as a kid
and afterwards you got some money, which you used to buy candy or video games or the like? It’s like the feeling when you first got the money, before you spent it.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Biggest source of optimism...
is that Zdiurencik’s first move went straight to a hugely undervalued commodity: 1B/DH former top prospects who many consider washouts. This is how the Rays found Pena and the Red Sox found Ortiz. Branyan obviously doesn’t have the same upside, but taking a flier on these guys is a great way to get solid production for next to nothing.
If Zdiurencik follows up by bringing in a SS and CF with plus gloves (regardless of offense) as stopgaps to make our fringe SPs look a little better, I’ll whoop with joy. I don’t whoop often.
"1B/DH former top prospects who many consider washouts"
Bladergroen? Maybe there’s something still there.
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by JY on Dec 3, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Was he ever really a *top* prospect, though?
I’m not sure, but I would have said that between him and Brito, Brito was the more highly-regarded, back in the day when they were actually considered prospects, and I don’t recall that Brito was ever thought of as a highlight guy.
by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 4, 2008 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
Blade was the number four prospect in the Mets system after his SAL campaign.
I don’t know anything about Brito though.
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by JY on Dec 4, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks, you two
Must just be West Coast bias on my part — I hadn’t realized Bladergroen was ever ranked that highly. (Although, what did the Mets have at the time?)
by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 4, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Lastings Milledge, Yusmeiro Petit... Gaby Hernandez...
Hindsight is depressing when looking at prospect lists.
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by JY on Dec 4, 2008 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Well...did BA ever rank Petit that high, or was that all BP?
I remember getting pissed off when Petit’s MLE/PECOTA blew Felix’s out of the water when both were in A ball or whatever.
I'm looking at BA.
All three were ahead of Blade, in that order.
I’ve never actually had a BP subscription, and with the financial situation I’m in right now, I don’t expect to any time soon.
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by JY on Dec 4, 2008 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Back-Spasm-Brothers
I fucking hate you Mariners
Not the same ring as the Bash Brothers though.
I fucking hate you Mariners
If we get one thing out of the Bavasi error it's that now even barely competent moves make us feel fantastic
I did a back-flip....I've been waiting to do one since Dave or DMZ (forget) told us to do one because we were trading Washburn.
But it’s nice to be excited, even about a small move.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I read right through it...dang. So I'm for it.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Bavasi Blunder
it’s not just the alliteration. It really seemed like blindly stumbling – blundering – through baseball.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 3, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
But that sounds like one discrete event
like Bavasi only made one blunder. But then again so does Bavasi Error. Oh, the dilemmas.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
No, we cannot decide to come up with a name for it. It will never stick.
This happened organically through a typo (sort of). This stays, I have decreed it.
I'm happy with the first move.
I can now officially begin to have an optimistic off-season.
Man do I love midgets.
When can I wear my LaHair jersey now? :(
I fucking hate you Mariners
To be clear..I don't really have one.
I fucking hate you Mariners
A couple more things for the Branyan primer, just so you know
Branyan likes to walk up to “Hell’s Bells”, and he occasionally swings 3 bats in the on-deck circle. It’s the most intimidating thing you could imagine when that dude comes up. Then he’ll just crush a ball on someone and just have this content, satisfied look on his face.
All the Brewer fans are pretty upset about this, as you can probably tell. Have fun watching the Grand Branyan. He’s also the career leader in 3T0% (HR+BB+K/PA), ahead of Adam Dunn and Rob Deer.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Not only is this a good baseball signing,
it’s a good entertainment signing. I couldn’t be more pleased.
I am so not going to miss BP sessions next year.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
It's cool to hear other teams messing that up though!
by seattlesundevil on Dec 3, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't they trade for Dunn just for the draft picks?
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They traded for him to cock block the Dodgers
which ended up hurting them more.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
Yeah and then he said this:
“That was a premise of the deal,” Diamondbacks GM Josh Byrnes said in regards those hypothetical draft picks. “The chances at that time were very good, but quite a few things have changed. I think it’s fair to say it’s maybe a little different situation than we anticipated. The poor economy has affected some things.”
So basically they’re crying poverty. Wooo we’re the Marlins of the NL West! The only thing that remains is to trade Justin Upton in 3 years for somebodies farm system.
Does he know something we don't?
I just can’t imagine why Dunn would accept arbitration. Are GMs worried that guys would rather wait a year and get a heftier contract in better economic times?
No idea.
What I don’t get is apparently they offered him a two year deal hours before declining to offer him arbitration. Though since they’ve pretty much said they only have $10M to spend this offseason and already lowballed RJ, I’m guessing it was something like 2/$12M
I think so. Next year there will be fewer corner guys on the market too
But a guy like Dunn should take the money and run before he collapses.
…and if he accepts, why couldn’t he be traded?
Furcal
by JI on Dec 3, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite part of this offseason is that it's basically bizarro world so far.
One of the reasons I decided to find a 2nd team years ago was that I needed to root for somebody smart to keep from going insane.
Almost everything the DBacks have done this offseason has been stupid. Almost everything the Mariners have done this offseason has been smart.
What?
I'm sure they're being given orders from on high
Khalilbot
by JI on Dec 3, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Budget wise I imagine so.
But who on earth honestly thinks Dunn would stay in Arizona for 1 year at MAYBE $12-$15M when he could sign elsewhere for something like 5/$70M?
I think it's certainly possible
You’re looking at a cautious market flooded with corner/DH types. He could rebound, get the OBP over 4 and hit the market next year.
Khalilbot
by JI on Dec 3, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
I can't imagine that being the case though.
While the economy is likely to be better this time next year, it’s not like baseball is in any danger of closing up shop. The FA market isn’t going to be THAT depressed. Is the difference in salary worth risking injury/collapse? I can’t imagine that it is.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 3, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
From Rotoworld
The New York Post reports that the Padres are close to trading Khalil Greene to an undisclosed team.
It’s believed that they’ve pffered him around to the Orioles and Tigers, but they were having trouble finding a deal they liked. St. Louis and Kansas City could be possibilities here.
Churchill said he heard a trade could follow the Branyan signing and would likely be for an infielder. Perhaps Greene is that infielder?
I would welcome this for non-baseball reasons
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 3, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Safeco's dimensions would push his ability to remain expressionless to the limit
It would be the game within the game
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 3, 2008 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Heh, me too. The ball just sitting there in the background is perfect.
It’s like his battery just died.
Clearly not solar-powered.
Or possibly built by Graham.
SON OF JOR-EL!
KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 3, 2008 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
I see Tuesdays with the Green(e)s in the future.
Sean and Khalil as baseball’s most dynamic and expressive duo.
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by JY on Dec 3, 2008 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
The possibilities are endless..
Charity staring contests!
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by JY on Dec 3, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'll take Greene's mullet over Yuni's girth any day.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
It is not a mullet
It is the most horrifying thing to ever be seen.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 3, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Still not as horrible as Yuni's horribleness (whatever that means)
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
Jim Street thinks we should trade JJ for Prince Fielder.
Then again, Jim Street is kind of a retard.
Every day I hear about Seattle sports' failures. Every night I fall asleep to the sound of my own tears.
I'm skeptical
but off the top of my head, it doesn’t seem like an awful trade
Loney is a good player, but I think you could get more packaging them separately.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 3, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I might be wrong now that I look at the numbers a bit more.
I think it depends on whether you think Loney is closer to the ’07 version than the ’08 version.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 3, 2008 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
A better version of Ryan Howard who is under club control
in exchange for a broken down closer?
How couldn’t it be?
Furcal
by JI on Dec 3, 2008 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
You don't think you could trade JJ for something else
and send Beltre + less to LA for Loney?
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 3, 2008 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
I thought we were talking about Putz for Fielder
Furcal
by JI on Dec 3, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
Hence my poorly placed smartassed remark.
Well now I look like a dingleberry.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 3, 2008 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
On a true talent level, you think Loney is better than Howard?
Is his glove good enough to make up for the hitting discrepancy? I don’t know a lot about Loney.
Regardless, I don't think Loney is that great unless he hits .330
So call me skeptical.
Furcal
by JI on Dec 3, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
I'm too high on him either.
In fact, I thought for a second that you had gone batshit crazy until I realized you were talking about Prince.
95% the fun of Adam Dunn?
I’m assuming that by “fun” you are basically saying “power” because any other meaning is just….well something I’d expect to see on the Giants blog.
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I can't tell what to make of this comment
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 3, 2008 9:30 PM PST up reply actions

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