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OTFPOTD: 12/3 - Why the Hell Did LaunchCast Just Play Jeff Beck Edition

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For some reason my Yahoo LaunchCast just played Jeff Beck. Why? I have no idea. I don't like Jeff Beck. My music tastes don't lend themselves to LaunchCast determining that I like Jeff Beck.

I watched two movies last night on my Xbox streaming Netflix: Ratatouille and Jesus Camp. Ratatouille was pretty good. I thought the first half of the movie was extremely slow, but the second half made up for that. Jesus Camp made me want to punch things.

What movies have you seen recently that made your temper go through the roof?

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That's exactly why I don't use/trust services like LaunchCast or Last.fm

because there’s not an algorithm in the world that can reliably predict what I’d like based on what I listen to, that I’ve found. The last five songs on my iTunes random play were

 - The Dickies: Bowling With Bedrock Barney
 - Elvis Costello/Burt Bacharach: God Give Me Strength
 - Queen: Death On Two Legs
 - Bruce Springsteen With The Sessions Band: Open All Night
 - AC/DC: Whole Lotta Rosie

So my listening tastes don’t really lend themselves to a linear progression of “if you like X, Y then you’ll like Z” as most recommendation algorithms seem to do. I might like A through H, hate I, J, K, L, and M, and love N-Z; I prefer to control that myself rather than leaving it to a machine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 8:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

And if you don’t have Painted From Memory, the record he did with Elvis Costello, it’s definitely worth getting.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Feh. A huge letdown

A letdown precisely because All This Useless Beauty was such a miracle comeback. That one isn’t just his best album since 1986, it’s one of his all-time greatest….the Bacharach collaboration was such a disappoinment in comparison. Some inspired songs (like “God Give Me Strength”) but a lot of sentimental dross.

I yield to no man in my admiration for both Bacharach (the ONLY classically trained “pro” songwriter to be a pop genius) and Costello, but PFM didn’t live up to the hype.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All-time greatest? Hmmmm.

I liked Useless Beauty pretty well, but I wouldn’t even put it in his top 5. I would say it’s definitely his best album of the 90’s, and he hasn’t done anything remotely as good since. I guess I looked at PFM as more of a Bacharach album with Elvis Costello vocals, so I didn’t really rank it in the Costello canon – thus I don’t really view it as a disappointment.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe not his top 5, but not far outside of that....

Let’s see, my personal ranking:

1.) Imperial Bedroom
2.) Get Happy!!
3.) Trust
[all three of these are agonizingly close to one another]
4.) King Of America
5.) All This Useless Beauty

Hey, what do you know, it DOES make my Top 5. But only because I think Armed Forces has FAR too much ponderous bullshit on it to beat out Beauty, which is remarkably consistent and listenable. At least with Get Happy!! Costello realized it was a smart idea to make the bullshit songs only last 1m50s or so.

So the rest of the top 10 would be…

6.) Armed Forces
7.) This Year’s Model
8.) Blood And Chocolate
9.) My Aim Is True
10.) Brutal Youth.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I should have checked my iTunes folder for Bacharach when the thread of cover songs came up.

White Stripes ‘I don’t know what to do with myself’, Cranberries ‘(I long to be) close to you, Cyndi Lauper ’Walk on by’. Holy crap I forget how many people he’s worked with and how many people have covered his classics.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did Ratatouille look shitty?

I started watching it the day Netflix went up on Xbox, and it looked far worse than DVD quality.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 8:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Huh.

Maybe it was first-day jitters. Or maybe I was overly critical. I was sitting a bit too close to the TV that day.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Same for me.

Thoroughly unimpressed by the quality on that one. Everything else looked fine for me

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually gave this a run after I heard you complaining about it.

Looked fine to me, but it might be because of my connection.

by BrianL on Dec 3, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

QUIT RUBBING IT IN I KNOW YOU HAVE FIOS

And I think mine was bad because I was torrenting, now that I think back on it

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, pbd, I started watching the show "Weeds" last night.

You weren’t kidding about Mary Louise Parker.

Swooooooooon.

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 8:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yup, she shore is purty

and she only gets better as the shows go on.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But the fact that it's covered by different artists every week was kinda cool

by this season they’d gone away from that song entirely in the credits though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love it.

More for the lyrics, though. It’s a dead-on critique of The Valley.

Also, in the later seasons, a new person/band sings it every episode, which makes it kinda fun.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 8:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Weeds is filmed where my girlfriend's parents live.

And it’s exactly like that. All the houses look exactly the same, and they’re massive, and they’re soulless.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it's so much worse though

I have family in Riverside, and every time I go down there I get lost in their neighborhood because every house within four blocks is, without exaggeration, exactly the goddamn same. Same design, same color, same lawn, everything.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also feel the same for her

I’ve got the first 2 seasons on DVD on my shelf, yet haven’t even watched them. Lazy I guess

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm like 75% sure I have a urinary tract infection. . .

I still have a week and a half left in my hitch up here. I don’t want to go home early, but I don’t trust the medics here to give me an accurate diagnosis.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's becoming apparent that Patrick Hallahan of My Morning Jacket

is one of the more under-appreciated drummers out there. He pretty much kicks ass on their last three albums.

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 9:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm a pretty casual MMJ fan

but their most recent album verges on the unlistenable for me. It’s really not very good. Maybe I’m missing something, because I do like some of their older stuff OK, but Evil Urges is just….wow.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 9:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That album has taken me FOREVER to get into.

But once I decided not to expect the southern rock that was prevalent on Tennessee Fire, At Dawn, and It Still Moves, I was okay. Z was already starting to move towards 70s pop, and Evil Urges is a continuation of that. It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t like it, since I know how you feel about Elton John, and that’s what their newer music reminds me of.

(bahaha, “Break Like the Wind” by Spinal Tap just started playing on my music player)

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Highly Suspicious makes me want to kill people

but maybe if I skip that one I should give it another shot.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Big boy breakfast" Heh!

So how big is this bowling alley, and how much are these people drinking because that’s a lot of milk! And what the hell is a Dirty Mother?
 I love articles like this, when they leave you with as many questions as they answer.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dirty Mother:

Tequila, Kaluha and cream.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's racist

Why when you throw anything Mexican related into the mix it adds ‘dirty’ to the title

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you met my friend Sanchez?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh
“I am really happy to be back in Calgary, I love Canada. I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds. I don’t know what that’s about. Enjoy the game tonight.”

http://deadspin.com/5101142/apparently-the-nhl-wont-stand-for-sean-averys-sloppy-seconds

by Robert on Dec 3, 2008 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Luanchcast used to play me songs by William Hung

I think, for some of their peddled mainstream selection, they don’t care what your tastes are.

by Gomez on Dec 3, 2008 9:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm picturing Pandora trying to justify this

This William Hung song has syncopated rhythm, melodic vocals, and an E-minor chord, which are all parts of [this song you actually like].

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Dec 3, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WLHUNG

Ryan Howard: You a big William Hung fan?
Todd Packer: Why does everybody ask me that? Who the hell is that?

by Fin on Dec 3, 2008 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Charlie Weis staying at Notre Dame (haha)

While Mike Leach

is being swooned by UW.

Make. It. Happen.

Probably just a ploy to get more money out of TTU, but Leach would be an awesome hire for Washington. I mentioned how cool it would be

to have Mike Leach as a coach just a couple weeks ago.

(And I have no clue why the HTML breaks the line)

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 9:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wilder was already taken.

My original screename was my real name, but it was not capitalized. I didn’t like it and went with my nickname that someone already took.

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

YES

Let’s throw the shit out of the football at Montlake.

by Gomez on Dec 3, 2008 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh shizz, "Canibal The Musical" is on the streaming Netflix.

I’ve never seen this movie, and now I’m really excited.

Oh shit, so is Orgazmo.

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 9:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know Orgazmo was there

Cannibal! is on my queue already. I’m at like 50 movies, and the only reason I don’t have more is because it’ll take me forever to watch what I’ve picked already

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had to stop myself. I already have a queue loaded with movies I've never seen before

And I don’t have a ton of free time to watch movies, so I need to slowly burn through them

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

God, I'd give my first born for it to be next Thursday

I just want this fucking shitty year to be over with, and having school done would be a good start.

Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!

by joof on Dec 3, 2008 9:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

BOTD...

Changing it up a bit for laughs…

Bacon Hitler!!

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 10:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Currently listening to: The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads

Holy shit, Talking Heads put out one of the greatest live albums in rock history. WHO KNEW?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A lot of people, actually.

It’s not like Talking Heads were some secret underground band. And, if you’re keeping score, they actually put out TWO of the greatest live albums in rock history – Stop Making Sense is fantastic too.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I've known that TNOTB was an all-time classic live album for years now.

It’s just that, listening to it again for the first time in awhile, its incredible freshness hits me all over again. The Rhino expanded reissue is flawless too.

Stop Making Sense is actually sort of weak. For one thing, it’s not really “live” (it was almost completely done in the studio), and for another it’s too heavily reliant on the Speaking In Tongues album, which was a massive drop-off from the first four albums.

But man…those first four Talking Heads albums…what a brilliant quartet. I honestly can’t say which is my favorite. Fear Of Music has some of my favorite songs in “Air,” “Cities,” “Heaven,” and “Memories Can’t Wait” but loses points for having too many mediocre cuts like “Mind,” “Electric Guitar,” “Paper,” etc. Remain In Light has their best-ever in “Once In A Lifetime” and “The Great Curve” but puts a lot of eggs into an 8 song basket and blows it with the unbearable “Overload.” So it comes down to ‘77 vs. Buildings And Food. Jesus, how do you split the difference between those? “Found A Job” is the great hidden Talking Heads classic, but then so is “The Book I Read”…crap, I’ll go with Buildings And Food for the Eno production. And the segue between “The Girls Want To Be With The Girls” and “Found A Job.”

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I have to pull it out every year or so

because I always hear it and go “goddamn this is an amazing record”. I really like STop Making Sense, but that could also be connected to the fact that I saw it in the theater and was blown away by it and it’s stuck with me ever since.

I go with Buildings And Food, definitely, although there’s no bad choice between that and ‘77. I’m still so burned out on “Once In A Lifetime” that I can’t rank Remain In Light up there, even though I know it is – I need to go a couple more years without ever hearing Once In A Lifetime again before I can appreciate the reputation of that album.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The trick to getting back into "Once In A Lifetime": listen to Tina Weymouth's bassline.

It’s just two notes. THE ENTIRE TIME. Back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, never changing. She’s quite a capable player, so it was clearly some sort of hilarious art-rock conceit and by god it works. I could listen to her see-sawing back and forth on those two notes for hours.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just wasn't sure what all the fuss was about with that movie

it was fine, I guess, but…meh

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

It got to the point where I had to refuse to discuss it with customers, because when I gave them my actual opinion of the movie they were typically horrified.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like I was a 4-year-old being lectured on something every single person on Earth knows.

The writing was dreadful, the acting supremely overrated. Just a big Hollywood jerk-fest, really. Absolutely no moral to be taken from it. Zero redeeming value.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It won Best Picture because Hollywood people are egomaniacs.

Because it basically made it seem like every single person in the world was secretly a violent racist, Hollywood people said, “Hey, I’m not like that!” and it justified their sense of self superiority.

The Oscars are worse than the major baseball awards to me; I KNOW they’re a giant crock of horse shit most of the time, but I can’t not pay attention.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My wife and I have an Oscar party every year for that very reason

if they’re going to show the horse shit, the least we can do is revel in it and laugh at how stupid it is.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They actually did okay on most of the major awards last year.

I would have picked TWBB over No Country, but they were both pretty amazing movies.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There wasn't a single WTF moment in there.

I had a few minor qualms (even though I love Ratatouille and think it’s the better movie, I think Persepolis was more Oscar worthy for example) I was pleasantly surprised.

Now watch them give Best Picture to the Duchess this year.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No Country was an amazing film and most years I would have wanted it to win hands down.

TWBB may very well be the best film of the 2000s so far. PTA outdid himself.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For me, what amazed me about No Country was just the polish.

I didn’t see it as much more than a thriller, but it was just perfectly made.

And yes, I’m a big fan of PT Anderson. That movie stuck with me for months.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really didn't like it after I saw it.

And then I dreamed about it all night and couldn’t stop thinking about it for weeks. I watched it again and was just blown away. I need to watch it a third time, now that I think about it…

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you read McCarthy's novels?

They are so relentlessly… remorseless for lack of better phrase. I have a real problem with them, yet read them. They really fuck with my head.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed On The Road,

but it came with so much hype from a few friends that I was a touch disappointed. Can’t wait for the movie, though. That book begs to be on the big screen.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't memorized his work, but for a semi-happy ending.

That’s the only one of his novels I can think of that has one.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just watched it again last night.

I love that there is absolutely ZERO music in the whole movie. I contrast that with TWBB which had one of my favorite scores ever. I like TWBB a little better than No Country, but they are both now 2 of my favorite movies ever

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Last year was a pretty great year for movies.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I felt spoiled

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've almost completely cut back on seeing movies in the theater this year.

The only recent one I caught was Slumdog Millionaire. But damn…that was worth it. Check that shit out tonight, if you have any love at all for the idea of modern day realist fairy tales.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Take the time to get out to your local art-house cinema and do it.

It’s worth it. TAKE A GIRL IF YOU CAN. It’s very romantic in a non-pussy way.

I have to say, after TWBB and No Country, it’s kind of nice to see a movie with a lot of grit and unhappiness that nevertheless has a totally awesome positive happy ending. As I said, a modern day fairytale.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is that place?

The Seattle Landmarks are such fucking dumps (I love them anyways, but it’s true) but people from other cities tell me the Landmarks are the nicest theatres they have.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Landmark in Chicago (where I saw it) is a lovely theater

Sorry that Seattle sucks so much.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I worked at a Landmark for years.

My drummer manages one. I don’t know what the deal is; the company owns most of the buildings, so they should be able to maintain them a but better than they do.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been there once. For the Aqua Teens movie.

It’s not pristine, but the screen was pretty big if I remember right, and it’s in probably the nicest “urban” neighborhood in San Diego. (I’ll enforce a stereotype here and mention that it’s “the gay neighborhood.”)

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love that part of town.

I haven’t spent a ton of time in San Diego, but I remember thinking that if I ever moved there for some reason that’s probably where I would end up. I tend to like the gay neighborhoods of cities.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me, too.

I live a few blocks away from the official boundary. It’s a safe neighborhood, it’s clean, and it has a ton of bars.

And a much lower crackhead quotient than North Park, where I live.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't usually see a lot of movies until this time of year.

The only movies I’ve seen in the theater this year (well, since March) are the Dark Knight, Encounters at the End of the World, the Searchers and Night of the Hunter.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So that made me bump TWBB to the top of netflix

Adapting Cormac McCarthy to the screen was amazing. They left out a couple of scenes I thought could have been left in, but keeping the basic ending of the novel was unexpected. Which shouldn’t be because it’s the Coen brothers, but I have low expectations from Hollywood.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I did not like it at all.

Maybe I’ll watch again to see if this is true.

by Sec 108 on Dec 3, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know people that hated it.

Double D just doesn’t do it for some people.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It felt like some sort of vehicle for him.

I have no problem with him per se, just the whole personality of his character was off for me. Seemed too unreal.

by Sec 108 on Dec 3, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part:

When two black guys (“Hey we need a black guy. Call Ludacris! He’s black!”) talk about how racist it is that a white woman clutches her purse as they walk by. Then they rob them.

I started throwing shit when I saw that.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

God I wanted to hit something when that part happened

That movie was so grossly overdone I couldn’t believe it. I thought it was total shit and forgot about it immediately. Then, it won motherfuckin’ Best Picture. Jesus what the fuck is wrong with people

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I turned it off after 20 minutes.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched the whole thing

but afterwards couldn’t for the life of me figure out why.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I could have just come over to you house

 and screamed “PEOPLE AREN’T ALWAYS VERY NICE TO EACH OTHER!!!” in your ear for two hours. Would have been about the same thing.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Worst film ever to win a Best Picture?

Or are you talking about Cronenberg’s Crash?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I haven't seen Cronenberg's.

I have the book, but I couldn’t get through it.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cronenberg's is definitely strange

but well worth seeing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just couldn't wrap my head around the premise.

I’m usually into weird books/movies like that, but getting off on car accidents was beyond my limit.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think American Beauty might have been worse

but when you consider what they were up against (Crash was better than Brokeback Mountain and Good Night, and Good Luck? Really?) I’d say Crash winning was the bigger crock.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Shakespeare in Love was utter ass.

But that’s not my type of movie anyway so I try not to be too critical.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Driving Miss Daisy over Do The Right Thing, 1989

case closed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To me, Driving Miss Daisy is what Crash is to you

It makes Hollywood feel good about itself because it shows the quiet dignity of the African-American. Forgetting all about the fact that HE WAS BASICALLY AN INDENTURED SERVANT to the BENEVOLENT WHITE WOMAN. GOD that movie pissed me off. AT least Do The Right Thing was honest about race relations.

GOD.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Driving Miss Daisy Crazy

Spoke much more to race relations IMHO.

by Sec 108 on Dec 3, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I should rewatch that movie.

I haven’t seen it in years, so I may very well agree with you.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, it's terrible

because it has that same “look at how well we can be sensitive to the plight of others” condescension as Crash does, only it’s much worse because they try to cast race relations through the lens of a kindly old Southern woman. Honestly, if there’s one set of eyes I don’t want to look at African-Americans with, it’s the eyes of a Southern noble and her family of casual bigots as they learn the Very Special Lesson that All People Are Alike.

But hey! Morgan Freeman! If we put him in it, EVERYONE WILL LOVE IT!

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Miss Daisy could ever be described as kindly

I didn’t really interpret the film as a study in race relations. I saw it more as a film about the relationship that evolves over the years between two lonely people from extremely different backgrounds who come to rely upon each other. I love this movie.

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by mem on Dec 3, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, American Beauty was an enormous load of bullshit, wasn't it?

Talk about a film that was utterly morally corrupt at its core. Now normally such things don’t exercise me that much, but everybody was holding the damn thing up as if it was some kind of brilliantly thoughtful, righteous commentary on American values.

I caught the film with my girlfriend on TV the other day, and it hit her the way it finally hit me: the first time you see the film you’re taken with it and you walk out thinking “man, that was DEEP!” But then you start to thinking about WTF it was trying to say and you realize how hollow it ultimately was.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So hilariously true.

As I was watching it the other day, this leapt out at me: Jesus, was behavior like that somehow more acceptable back in 1998?

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw the previews of that in the theater the other day

It looks like the most unwittingly offensive concept for a movie I’ve seen in years. “ZOMG OH NO MIDDLE CLASS LIFE IN THE SUBURBS IS KILLING ME GOD I WISH I WAS AN URBAN HIPSTER POOR AGAIN!!!”

Seriously, sometimes I just want to say “fuck you, Hollywood.”

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Revolutionary Road is one of my favorite books of all time and I have been waiting for it to be made into a movie since I read it.

I just think Sam Mendes is a fucking hack and he’s going to make it a prequal to American Beauty and I’m going to go home and open a few veins to keep myself from harming anyone.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't even know it was a book.

Who wrote it?

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Richard Yates.

He wasn’t very prolific, and Revolutionary Road was definitely the high point of his career, but it’s fucking fantastic. It makes some very important points about suburban isolation and the selling of one’s soul for a slightly more comfortable life without making it a “be sorry for me, wah-wah” type of thing. Highly recommended.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The preview I saw came across as the most obscenely "GOD WHO COULD EVER LIVE IN THE SUBURBS WITH THESE YOKEL AMERICANS!" bullshit

Both me and my girlfriend had immediate, violent reactions to its tone. We’re urbanites, but shit…it felt like Hollywood was urinating all over our parents, for god’s sake.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This was my fear.

The book is much more subtle; it’s about people giving up the life they want for the life they think they’re supposed to have and how it made things shitty for pretty much everyone. It’s less an indictment of the suburbs and more and indictment of urbanites that sold out.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Mendes is not a good director

but I absolutely adore his wife.

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by mem on Dec 3, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So true.

I thought it was well-made, if full of itself.
My wife says, “That was soulless, pretentious shite,” and I want to defend it, and just can’t… “well what about the….hmm. Yeah, fine, but you’ve got to admit the way they deal with…. no…. uh, it was pretty?”

It’s a little bubble, and if anyone points out that there’s no there there, the whole thing crashes.

by marc w on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I found it hilarious.

But I’m kind of a dickhole sometimes.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a total dickhole, but I don't have a wife and kids to think about.

The idea that you shouldn’t have to live with the choices you’ve made is my least favorite Hollywood conceit.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But that's the American way!

Why should I be responsible for my own choices? It was someone else’s fault!

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And millions of 35 year old dads who need a hobby nodded their heads

and silently made plans to trade in the minivan on a ’72 Hemi Cuda.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited about that actually

Couple more years they’ll start keeling over and the market will be flooded with cheap used Harley’s.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want a Sportster

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too, sometimes. I don't have enough of an ass for a hardtail.

I really want one, I just don’t want to pay for the Harley name. Either used, or a Japanese knockoff. This Baby Boomer generation has been making my life miserable, now that they are retiring I want their toys, and am hoping the market gets flooded.
Then when the s.o.b.’s retire, I want their retirement property. Or now, since their retirement funds are vanishing like a puff of smoke.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There will definitely be plenty of them out there

I’m just not big enough for anything more than a Sportster. Hell, you saw me at bowling. I’m hardly big enough for a Sportster, but I am not a fan of Japanese style sportbikes. Nakeds are the only sportbike I can stand the look of

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why I want a Harley, or a look alike.

I have a Suzuki 950 in the garage, 1981. Killer bike, rides great. Has 4 carbs made out of aluminum, and cheap aluminum. So they corrode pretty quickly and gum up if you don’t ride it more than once a week. I need to put it up on recycle, I just want it gone.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On recycle?

I’m assuming that is a website?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm thinking of freecycle.

Keeping this sucker tuned up is not what I want to be spending money on these days. I should have done it when gas was over $4 a gallon.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There is nothing catchy about that song

well, I suppose there is, in the same sense that food poisoning is “catchy”.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YOU FUCKER JUST MENTIONING THE TITLE WAS ENOUGH TO PUT IN MY HEAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

jabs screwdriver into ear to stop the pain

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I'm glad I keep Ace Of Spades on my ipod at all times.

Lemmy cleanses a lot of musical sins.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ironically enough, I have "Wonderful Christmastime" on my computer

But only because I have the complete works of Paul McCartney that I ripped from my CD collection to my laptop. I would never actually LISTEN to the damn thing.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also: check out this incredibly underrated McCartney song - "Little Lamb Dragonfly"

I’m sure you can find it on YouTube. Gotta be one of the best songs The Beatles never recorded. Abbey Road quality all the way.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of the Beatles

This week marks 40 years since the White Album was released.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Beatles' best album? Quite possibly.

It’s down to that, Revolver, and A Hard Day’s Night for me, and all for different reasons. The Beatles is the only one of them with some genuinely shitty tracks on it (e.g. “Wild Honey Pie,” “Bungalow Bill,” “Helter Skelter”) but probably wins on sheer volume alone and the way it so brilliantly disguises its own weaknesses through the greatest act of song-sequencing in rock history.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't consider that an album

It’s a double-EP. The stuff on the second half of the CD is just the non-album singles they released in the year 1967, much of which had nothing to do with the MMT project.

And even if you consider MMT as an EP set, it’s a fucking weak set by the Beatles’ standard. A throwaway instrumental in “Flying,” a soporific Harrison number (“Blue Jay Way”), one of the worst “famous” Beatles songs in “Magical Mystery Tour,” and a middling McCartney song in “Your Mother Should Know,” which was sent to the presser at least two ideas short of an actual song. Really, what keeps that EP afloat is “The Fool On The Hill” and “I Am The Walrus.” “I Am The Walrus” is unimpeachable. God, those opening organ notes…that’s queasy psychedelia in a nutshell right there.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't even bother to choose

all I usually say is that there’s no band ever that has been more prolific and more successful in such a blazingly short period of time, in completely different genres – love ’em or hate ’em, The Beatles definitely redefined music in about a five-year stretch there.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Helter Skelter is not shitty

…and it’s between Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road

Furcal

by JI on Dec 3, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Helter Skelter" is a shapeless mess and proves that the one genre The Beatles absolutely sucked at was hard rock.

Try as they might, they could never pull off hard rock like the Who or Zeppelin. Which is fine, because they were master craftsmen first and foremost. “Helter Skelter” is messy, loud, interminably long, and doesn’t have a single interesting melodic idea outside of its first 10 seconds. A massive blemish on their discography.

“I Want You (She’s So Heavy)” is similarly problematic, but limps across the finish line on its conceptual/structural merits. Still, that fucker’s at least two minutes too long itself.

And don’t get me started on how overrated Sgt. Pepper’s is. I could go the rest of my life without hearing “Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds,” the title track, or “Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!” again. “Getting Better” and “When I’m 64” still bop my bippy, though.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PROVE IT!

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I will not be doing that.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bahahahahaha

This will not happen.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Suit yourselves.

I love Jars.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is actually one of the main reasons I shopped for a Thinkpad

It has a middle button, and I am forever grateful. I use mine so much I can’t imagine life without it. On my macbook I have to command-click, and I use Tab Mix Plus in Firefox to force all links to outside pages to open in a new tab. Try Tab Mix Plus and your life will be forever enhanced

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to assume that you're being sarcastic

Because I don’t know how anybody could not know that

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We can only hope then

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And my flag was based on that assumption

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love old Video Game music

This is my ringtone

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did somebody say Jesus Camp?

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I saw Jesus Camp mentioned and found this before even going thorugh any comments

I have Jesus Camp in my queue, will watch it at some point. This gif is just too bizarre to leave out of here though

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BAHAHAHAHA!!!

Now I fully understand this gif.

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the only reason Jesus Camp is in my queue

I saw this a long time ago, and finally learned the origin earlier this year. Seeing it on Netflix felt like fate

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You've been here for how long, exactly?

Dude, this .gif has been around at least since the Rays started wrecking shit in the AL East. May ’08, whereabouts.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rays version has Raymond the Ray's head 'shopped onto the velociraptor head.

In fact, I think this image may be origin of the “Velociraptor Jesus” nickname that DRB has for David Price.

For some reason, I suspect Frosty Raptor may have played a role in its original creation. Or at least its importation into the LL biosphere.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very old

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching the Price is Right, and I swear these people are betting in Yen or something.

A surround sound system! 7500! 6000! 6500! God damn you stupid people.

Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!

by joof on Dec 3, 2008 10:40 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I am too.

It amazes me that I watch the Price is Right MAYBE once or twice a year and I know all the rules to all the games, and these people love it enough to make puff paint Price is Right t-shirts and stand in line for 17 hours but still have to have every rule explained to them.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The last time we went to LA

We stayed in an awesome hotel right across the street from CBS, and I guess a lot of Price Is Right people get put up there. Every night, this place hosts a one-hour talk about how to win at the price is right; they’ve got a whole wall full of photos of guests that have won ridiculous amounts of crap over the years.

We sat in on one session, and were truly amazed at how not smart most of these people were.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably because they watch game shows in the morning instead of going to school/work.

(Some people work nights, I know, please don’t flame me. Maury was always my daytime TV vice.)

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a customer in last night bragging how he bought a 12 inch audio cable at half price for 1,800 dollars.

One thousand and eight hundred dollars. jesus titty fucking christ. One thousand and eight hundred dollars

by Robert on Dec 3, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a study done with a bunch of self-proclaimed audiophiles

Played them music with different cables and asked them to say which was better. The people didn’t know which was which, but the test used monster cables for one session, and COAT HANGERS for the other. The people voted that they couldn’t tell much of a difference.

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am a nutty audiophile myself

And I absolutely agree with you. Also: people who scream about the superiority of vinyl are, for the most part, pretentious pricks who couldn’t back up their claims in most cases.

That said, the Loudness War really is something worth getting pissed off and snooty about, regardless of whether you consider yourself an audiophile douchebag or just an average everyday music-lover.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea why, and I am not an audiophile person, but yes.

There are so many songs that I don’t particularly care for on CD/mp3 that sound awesome to me on vinyl.

I cannot back up my claim here, and to minimize the risk of being a pretentious prick I’d just give the standard caveat that it’s just my opinion and your mileage may vary. But I love listening to records so, so much.

For the record, my turntable/stereo is pretty much not good at all, but I don’t care.

by marc w on Dec 3, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's certainly personal preference, but I'll take vinyl any day.

There’s no way you can argue that it doesn’t sound different, and I like the way it sounds much better than CD/mp3.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Digital cannot transmit warmth while analog can.

I know that sounds strange and I cannot explain it any better. It is why tube amps are where it is at.

by Sec 108 on Dec 3, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Technically this is true.

But a well-mastered (emphasis on this) CD is superior to all but the most virgin vinyl on the best sound system.

And I will confess: I hate the impracticality of vinyl. I absolutely hate having to get up every 20 minutes or so to flip a record or change over to the next one. I’m perfectly capable of inserting the conceptual “breaks” between sides of a CD for maximal artistic effect…just make my experience easier, thank you.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And the cd will last a hell of a lot longer

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hell, I prefer 45s to LPs, so getting up to flip the record isn't a problem to me.

I guess the big thing is: superior in what way? Less surface noise, more accurate rendering of the sound wave? Maybe, but from my experience there are other things that come into play – things that I don’t even have a name for, so you will win this ‘debate.’ I just like the sound of songs on vinyl way more than on CD, DESPITE the fact that they sound much, much ‘cleaner’ on cd.

by marc w on Dec 3, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, there's nothing wrong with personal preference.

Once objective factors have been recognized, there’s no arguing with taste. I know a lot of people just like you, and I even can understand what vibe you’re talking about too…it’s just far too incompatible with my lifestyle (and my massive CD collection).

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They had all sorts of names.

They wee never famous or anything. Just traveled around and played a lot of gigs. My old man is killer on the bass though.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And yet you'll never find anyone expressing non-ironic nostalgia for 8-track

Truly the shittiest format in living memory.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss the 8-track

Because as we all know, 8 tracks is twice as many tracks as 4.

by Sec 108 on Dec 3, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As long as we agree it's all personal preference.

I’ve actually had people tell me I was an idiot for preferring vinyl because digital formats could recreate everything that makes vinyl sound the way it does, but people realize that vinyl sounds like shit and don’t want their music to sound like that.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the link to that study

[coathanger]

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I read about that.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

MONOPRICE MONOPRICE MONOPRICE

Jesus, people

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Was he the redneck with the AK47?

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And then he tried to shoot you with a plastic AK

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Different customer

Jesus I hate the holidays

by Robert on Dec 3, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You had 2 insane people come into your store in one night

I want to work there part time with you to lighten up my life

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to work there part time with you

When insane people come into my work I still have to try and help them because I don’t get paid otherwise. You guys get paid hourly to watch these crazies

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

If I get an otherwise entertaining crazy person, I still have to treat them seriously and normal. They want to buy a new car for half price? I can’t tell them they’re crazy. They complain about road noise in a $9,000 Hyundia Accent? I can’t tell them they’re crazy. And if I spend 2 hours or so with them and they don’t buy, I’ll never get those 2 hours back.

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That actually brings up a somewhat serious question

are there any compact cars, or cars in the $10-15K range, that are better at damping road noise than others? I know to not expect much, but there’s gotta be one or two that are better than average, right?

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest, no

No person would ever be able to tell the difference, at least. In fact, when reading a car review on Consumer Reports and the like, ignore the part about road noise. Test drive the car with the radio on and the fans on just as you would normally. I can’t stand when a customer gets in a car and mentions how important the radio is to them because they drive a lot, and then on the test drive silence the radio and fan system so they can check the road noise. Total bullshit

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't looking to buy

but I’m renting a car in Austin and Enterprise always lets me choose what kind of car I want, so I was hoping one cheapass economy rental might be slightly better than the other. Guess I’ll just stick with the “crank the stereo” strategy.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And I didn't take it as if you were looking to buy

Just sort of a mini-rant from me. People are frustrating. But yes, crank the shit out of the stereo and all will be fine

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

People expect the world for free or very little

and don’t understand the reason that a car costs $9,000 in the first place is because of what’s not there. Like extra insulation.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

But, as discussed many times already in today’s thread, people are stupid. Stupid stupid stupid

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Guy 1:

Looking through the VHS tapes for sale telling me about his job at the Herbfarm that gives him paid holidays, a 401(k) and health insurance after 60 days. For 45 minutes.

Guy 2: Sees guy 1 looking at tapes, makes loud guttural shrieking noise, proceeds to go to public internet station and pretend to type for 20 minutes. Also pretends to read the Scarecrow movie guide but is actually just saying “blah blah blah blah blah” to himself really quietly.

Guy 3: Is something of a regular; comes into the store and reads the back of DVDs to himself in a dramatic voice.

Earlier in the day a homeless women came into the store and asked if I would adopt her. When I said no she stomped her feet, said “FINE!” in a really pissed off voice and slammed the door.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus that is awesome

I had an insane regular when I worked at a dealer in Everett. Big tall old guy (like 6’5" or so) would show up dressed in a red dress and a big huge hat, with tall black high heel boots and a big leopard print coat. His chest hair would stick out of the top of the dress since it was cut a little low, and he always had a 5 o’clock shadow. He would get out of his car and basically walk around and mess with everybody he could. He showed up like 10 times in a 6 week period, always dressed the same

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just like cars, is all.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The best was when we had a staffed sales event

This traveling sales crew came to our store to help us a run a sale. They were all from the South. The crazy drove up and I sent the sales crew’s closer out to shut the deal he went out and waited, but when the guy came up to him and he saw it was a man, he said, to his face, “you’ve gotta be fucking kidding” and walked away

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next time you're in Oly, check out Hannah's for a Hawks game.

My friend used to run into this guy who simply put on a wig, painted his nails, and then pretty much did what he would’ve done otherwise: go watch the Hawks at a bar. Dressed as a woman, clearly, but without the crazy dress or anything – jeans, blouse or hawks sweater, wig.

Probably a lot less drama than red dress dude.

by marc w on Dec 3, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a customer that keeps her phone in a jar in the freezer to stop the government from listening to her.

So I told her that every LCD TV has a hidden camera embedded in it and watched her freak out.

by Robert on Dec 3, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you guys still hiring for the holiday?

I only want a few hours a week

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm only kind of kidding

But keep me posted just because. I could always use some extra cash

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

next you should tell her that her portable music device has a GPS in it

that she can’t disable.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's always my complaint

People are goddamn stupid. I mean, check out this stupid lady

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hang on. . . Kid Rock's latest album is his . . 9th one!?

That can’t be right. Nine albums of Kid Rock? Can he really have that much music in him he needs to get out?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

He's saying

I’m a white dude trying to be badass and failing miserably.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is what pretty much every review of that record I've seen has said.

it’s not even like in the AC/DC mold of “it sounds good, if you like it buy it”, more like “it was vapid the first time, and now there’s NINE of these? C’mon, dude”

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Only six of which were any good.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But she's less of a douche than Bono

and doesn’t wear douchey sunglasses. Which could be because she’s been dead for 25 years, but still.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No worries, it wasn't meant to do that

just to point out that Bono is a douche.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am a card carrying Bono apolagist.

Literally. I actually have a U2 fan club card.

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by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Those albums would be:

1.) (THEIR BEST, WHY DOESN’T ANYONE REALIZE THIS?)
2.) War
3.) The Unforgettable Fire
4.) The Joshua Tree
5.) Achtung Baby

Crap, I could only come up with five. Well, let’s count Under A Blood Red Sky and make it six.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I thought about that...but October ultimately trips up on the sinews of tripe like "With A Shout," "Tomorrow," and "Scarlett"

But some good stuff there, for sure. Let’s give Achtung Baby the credit it deserves, though: try to listen to it without the blinders that all the subsequent hype has placed on it and you’ll find that it’s a remarkably strong album. The melodies and production and lyrics are all there. “Until The End Of The World” is, in its quiet way, one of U2’s finest achievements.

But nothing comes close to “A Sort Of Homecoming.” That, right there, is the one that goes to the desert island with me.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.

The other one that goes to the desert island with me would be Bad. That song always gets me.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, desert island U2?

How many can I choose?

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by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite in fact.

Followed by Salome and Ultraviolet.

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by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its simplicity is its greatest virtue

A shame they made it a “hidden track” on the best-of. I bet a lot of people don’t even realize it’s on there after “All I Want Is You.”

And while I’m on the subject, boy did U2 ever blow their greatest hits CDs. No “Out Of Control,” “Electric Co.,” “A Celebration,” “Two Hearts Beat As One,” and too many mediocre songs from Rattle & Hum. Does anybody really like “Angel Of Harlem” or “When Love Comes To Town?”

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I love Angel of Harlem. I think because of the horns.

by coolguyrob on Dec 4, 2008 2:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As a ridiculously obsessive U2 fanatic, I rank them thus:

12. Rattle and Hum
11. How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
10. Pop
9. October
8. Under a Blood Red Sky
7. Boy
6. Zooropa
5. the Unforgettable Fire
4. All That You Can’t Leave Behind
3. War
2. the Joshua Tree
1. Achtung Baby

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by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing is, I would count as "ridiculously obsessive" fanatic to most outside observers, even though I'm not off my nut about them

I just happen to know everything about them (B-sides, live tracks, concerts, etc.) from 1979-1993, is all. And your ranking makes sense to me, except Boy is way too low. “I Will Follow?” “An Cat Dubh”/“Into The Heart?” “Out Of Control?” “THE ELECTRIC FUCKING CO?” Come on man…who cares about the lyrics. The SOUND: it’s postpunk-turned-positive.

What a misfire Rattle & Hum was. Man, it’s hard to figure what happened there. I count “All I Want Is You,” “Desire,” and maybe “Hawkmoon” and “Heartland.” Throw the rest back though, including all the shitty live cuts.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

R&H was just so pretensious for an already admittidly pretensious band.

Bear in mind I still love Boy. It is still one of the best albums ever recorded. This is just where I put it amongst the rest.

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by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A friend of mine used to call that album Straddle & Cum

because it sounds so self-congratulatory and pretentious.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is the one song that saves that whole album for me

and it’s less about the song than the speech.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong. Under A Blood Red Sky

“THIS IS NOT A REBEL SONG. THIS IS SUNDAY BLOODY SUNDAY”

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. R&H

Fuck the revolution!!

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by thewyrm on Dec 3, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not even close

His whole “Irish-Americans who haven’t been back to their country in twenty or thirty years who talk about the glory of dying for the revolution” speech gives me chills to this day. Probably because I know far too many people who claim Irish heritage who are like this, but anyway.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Irish,

but I don’t feel any connection to the “revolution” or anything like that. I’ve never even been to the country.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And then his angry NO MORE! afterwards

which you know is not part of the song, but directed at these people, is fucking brutal.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't stand him

He started out doing rap, and then switched to rock/rap, and then to southern rock, and then some country, and now back to southern rock. Seriously, my mom listens to country music on occasion and I heard the DJ talking about Kid Rock. He’s from Detroit. WTF

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes he did

Here’s some lyrics

Oh, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA it’s so bad

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A thought: the Talking Heads really went to complete shit after Stop Making Sense, didn't they?

I count exactly FOUR songs in the last five years/three albums that match up to their first five LPs: “And She Was,” “Road To Nowhere,” “Wild Wild Life,” and “(Nothing But) Flowers.” WTF happened? How could they collapse so precipitously?

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Drugs, money, sex.

Would you want to continue to write music after you have it all? Easy to say now, but look at them… it was the only time they could get any sex.

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Weymouth and Frantz were married to each other, Byrne (the main songwriter) is compulsively drug-free (see the song "Drugs")...

…and money never meant much to these art-schoolers. No, it was something else. A loss of inspiration, or of motivation. I mean, those four songs I mentioned? They’re AWESOME. Pop songs, yes, but every bit as good as “Psycho Killer” or “Once In A Lifetime.” So they clearly could do that genre if they wanted. It’s just that they seemed to completely lose the plot after 1982 or so.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

David Byrne's ego is why

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes and no.

Yes, I buy this (especially w/r/t True Stories), but then again don’t forget that he told Eno to take a fucking a walk when he tried to usurp control over the band (and/or steal Byrne away) during the Remain In Light sessions. As egotistical as he was/is, he was willing to walk away from Eno for the sake of the rest of the group, which I give him credit for.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

David Byrne went off the wheels and the rest of the band followed along

though they honestly had no idea WTF was going on with him.

by Gomez on Dec 3, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Intraband tension?

I read once that after “Stop Making Sense,” Jerry Harrison (at least) was thinking “All right, we’ve built this terrific big band, now we’re really gonna kick ass” but Byrne insisted the next album be just the 4 core members and Harrison was pissed. Could be the beginning of the end?

by edgar is good on Dec 3, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So, it's not really a dilemma per se

but I’m going to be in Austin for five days in a couple weeks. That’s, at most, 15 meals (and probably less since Saturday and Sunday will be after Friday night and Saturday night, which means only brunch and dinner probably), and I’ve already found about 50 places that I really want to eat. And I haven’t even started looking at music, museums, or anything else yet. Damn.

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by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hear Austin is fucking cool.

It’s too bad that I hate Texas so much that I’ll probably never go there.

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

I love Austin, it’s like the Seattle of Texas. I think we should trade Tacoma + Spokane for Austin, maybe?

by Fin on Dec 3, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The M's have signed Russell Branyan.

I don’t feel like posting anything. Or there might be something up already. Link.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 11:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is this the contract that GMZ was talking about?

I must admit I’m underwhelmed. But if the money’s right it’s not a terrible signing.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I assume this is what he was talking about.

You’re right to be underwhelmed, because Branyan is not going to save the franchise or anything, but a power-hitting lefty with the ability to take a few pitches is pretty much exactly what the lineup is lacking. Especially now that Raul is gone.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's been offered arbitration, and there's no way he accepts.

Someone’s going to give him a multiyear deal. There’s a lot of interest out there.

Which is surprising, because over his career Raul has been paid less than I would have expected given his RBI numbers, work ethic, good-guyness, etc. Now that he’s 67 years old, teams come calling.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I pity the team that offers Raul a 3 year deal.

But, since I like the man and we offered him arbitration, I wish him all the best.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. I've got no problem with these guys signing monster contracts.

For a guy like Raul it just makes up for all his wasted years, and underpayment when these guys are under team control.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually really excited, because Branyan is F.A.T. and GMZ sees the value in that.

I would love Furcal, but the org. has pretty much said they won’t be going after big name FAs this year, so a signing like this is about as good as I expect to see.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit, I don't like this signing.

I don’t share everybody else enthusiasm for an aging, average to below-average first baseman.

He does give us some flexibility at third base, but his defense is going to be a problem.

by Phildopip on Dec 3, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He immediately becomes the team's best 1B/DH option against right-handed pitchers.

Well, aside from Clement if we’re counting him in that group. But I have to believe Clement is going to get his at-bats.

Branyan’s not going to shock the world, but this team needs some power, and you don’t want to blow a bunch of money on a big-name free agent when you’re not planning on contending anyway. He’s a good scrub to have around.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On another musical tangent: The Byrds are easily the most underrated Truly Great Band of all time.

They arguably ought to reside firmly at #5 on the list of the Objective Greatest/Most Important Groups/Artists, behind The Beatles, Stones, Who and Dylan. But most people just seem to think they were no more than Dylan covers and jingle-jangle pop.

I challenge non-believers to listen to their first six (SIX!) albums and dismiss them. Especially Younger Than Yesterday and The Notorious Byrd Brothers. But “Lady Friend” (a non-album single) may just be their best of all. Shame that David Crosby was such a hateful asshole.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 11:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

In this thread, I list all the Byrds songs you need to own:

1.) Mr. Tambourine Man; 2.) I’ll Feel A Whole Lot Better; 3.) The Bells Of Rhymney; 4.) Chimes Of Freedom; 5.) Turn! Turn! Turn!; 6.) Lay Down Your Weary Tune; 7.) The World Turns All Around Her; 8.) She Don’t Care About Time (the alternate version, preferably); 9.) Set You Free This Time; 10.) He Was A Friend Of Mine; 11.) If You’re Gone; 12.) It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue (early version); 13.) Eight Miles High; 14.) 5D (Fifth Dimension); 15.) Why? (single version); 16.) Wild Mountain Thyme; 17.) I See You; 18.) Mr. Spaceman; 19.) Psychodrama City; 20.) So You Want To Be A Rock & Roll Star; 21.) Have You Seen Her Face; 22.) Renaissance Fair; 23.) Time Between; 24.) Everybody’s Been Burned; 25.) Thoughts And Words; 26.) My Back Pages; 27.) Lady Friend; 28.) Goin’ Back; 29.) Draft Morning; 30.) Wasn’t Born To Follow; 31.) Get To You; 32.) Change Is Now; 33.) Old John Robertson; 34.) You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere; 35.) Hickory Wind; 36.) Nothing Was Delivered; 37.) Drug Store Truck Drivin’ Man; 38.) Nashville West; 39.) Ballad Of Easy Rider; 40.) Jesus Is Just Alright; 41.) Gunga Din; 42.) Lover Of The Bayou (live); 43.) Positively 4th Street (live); 44.) Chestnut Mare; 45.) Kathleen’s Song (alternate mix)

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Has anybody ever seen this German Forklift Operator Training Video?

It’s all in German, but completely hilarious. FYI for those of you at work. it gets a little messy, but in a silly way.

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I like the Enzyte style thumbs up just before the guy reveals his stumps

And the guy with the box cutter in his head is fucking great. He just snaps it off and stumbles away to lunch

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, it just keeps getting better and better.

Someone needs to watch this thing and .gif it like hell.

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's absolutely amazing

The ending is fucking GOLD

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And this is supposed to be a "training" video?

Looks more like someone went on a forklift rampage while armed to the teeth with chainsaws and other sharp implements.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to imagine that the narrator is calling this guy a dipshit the whole time

and pointing out all of his errors

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First error:

When you cut someone in half with the forklift, STOP before you kill another person.

Then ring your Deth Bell so someone can come clean up.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But then how are you going to spear the man with the Chainsaw

And then get your head cut off and have the forklift ricochet around the place while the chainsaw guy flails his arms wildly and chops everybody up?

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes I have trouble deciding

But it’s from another country so I can’t be sure. I’ve found that other countries have very weird ways of doing things

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still,

A chainsaw maniac in a forklift training video?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everything is better with wild chainsaw maniacs

Especially when they’ve been speared through the gut with a forklift arm and are being driven around to do their destruction

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I admit it's funny,

but I just don’t see it being a useful training tool.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG yes! The M's needed a chainsaw maniac.

Just follow Bavasi around and do his thing every time he signed a veteran. Best mascot ever.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Coco on one side, Silva on the other.

Bavasi the headless driver… this video had me laughing about as much as anything ever has… hahhaahahaha. Got to email this link to my friends.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lucy?

I may have missed this one.

And I disagree. This facial expression is gold gold fucking gold. Better than the original.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No way

The old one is so awesome

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 3, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The originial is irreplacable.

But I think this is an acceptable alternative.

by Goose on Dec 3, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I had the time and capability to gif this

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT THIS IS CRAZY

It’s as if Sam Raimi directed a training video.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't get over how horribly violent this is, and how it's played for laughs.

In particular, the part where the man is sliced up and down the middle, and it cuts to the view from inside his body as it’s dismembered by a chainsaw…I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm going to vomit.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad you liked it

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd pay $100 for it

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bu, bu,

:(

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriosuly though

720p? Built in HD tuner? what’s the model number?

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To give it to me, right?

People actually buy Vizios?

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by Faux on Dec 4, 2008 12:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Vizios are not real TVs.

So I’m in the clear.

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by Faux on Dec 4, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahahahaha

Has everyone seen the new Ducks uniforms?

Bahahahahahahahahahaha!

Now with wings!

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Needs more bacon

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by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BUUWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Haha.. Hahaaa… (can’t breathe) Hahaaa.. (gasp).. Ha…

Haha.. Hahaaa… (can’t breathe) Hahaaa.. (gasp).. Ha…Oh man those uniforms look STUPID!!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love how they do this on purpose

Looks like the XFL though

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by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 3, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still think it's less disgusting than their other unis.

The wings are ridiculous, but at least it doesn’t burn my eyes.

by Teej on Dec 3, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The colors are okay,

but the wing design looks like something from a Power Rangers costume.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 3, 2008 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is what Sports Uniforms will look like in the Distopian future.

Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!

by joof on Dec 4, 2008 4:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pursuant to the original tags: is Procol Harum one of the most underrated bands of the Sixties...

…or is Procol Harum one of the most underrated bands of the Sixties? I’m not just talking about “A Whiter Shade Of Pale,” awesome as that is…I’m talking about the debut album and A Salty Dog and Shine On Brightly and Home.

Keyboard based rock + Gary Brooker’s voice + Robin Trower’s guitar = pwnage.

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by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Procol Harum is a band that I've always wanted to know more about

but never bothered to investigate. Where should I start?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you heard "A Whiter Shade Of Pale"?

Answer: you almost certainly have, even if you don’t know it by name. It’s one of the all-time epochal 1967 singles. It’s an incredibly beautiful ghostly lament set to a rock adapation of Bach’s “Air on a G String.”

 I would start with that and the debut album (which is self-titled in the UK, and called A Whiter Shade Of Pale in the US). You can find almost all of it posted on YouTube right now if you want a quick fix. Then after that, check out A Salty Dog and Shine On Brightly.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Shoulda been clearer...when I said "know more about"

I kinda meant “more than Whiter Shade Of Pale”, which of course I’m familiar with, and like pretty well. I’ll check out those other ones, thanks for the tip…

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On the first album, the full-length version of "Whiter Shade" is great....

…as is “Conquistador,” “Something Following Me,” “Repent Walpurgis,” and “Cerdes (Outside The Gates Of).” Also, check out the non-album single that came right afterwards, “Homburg.” About the hat. Yup.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm moving to the CD in a few weeks.

I’m pretty stoked, but the only thing I’m nervous about is being able to find a grocery store (or the like) with a good beer selection close by. I am spoiled by the Greenwood Market, Ballard Market and Ballard Fred Meyer. Does anyone know where the best beer store in the area is? Madison Market’s selection is so-so, but it can’t touch my current haunts.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 1:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know; I'll ask folks who used to live there.

Guess they’ve got an Ethiopian market, where you might be able to pick up some Ethiopian beer. Just tried some Harar from the beer store down in Oly…. intriguing. Don’t know that I’d go all the way to ‘good’ but it was a decent change of pace. Kick on some Ethiopiques records (vinyl, of course), drink some Ethiopian beer – instant good times.

by marc w on Dec 3, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is my new favorite web page.

Link

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WHY DO PEOPLE PUT MOVIES ON TOP OF THE RETURN SLOT

YOU OBVIOUSLY GRASP THE CONCEPT AT LEAST PARTIALLY WHAT THE FUCK

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 1:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that damn slot is just so much work though

you gotta open it, slide your movie through, and…i’m tired just writing that, that’s so much effort!

The ones I loved were the people who, when the store was closed but I was still there, would yell through the slot “I’M DROPPING A MOVIE OFF FOR YOU!” before sliding the movie through, like it’s the most important thing that could possibly happen in my day, or like I could somehow miss it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's just a hole in the counter.

There’s a picture of Mr. T. It says “I pity the fool who don’t use the drop slot.” It requires the exact same amount of effort. I don’t get it.

Not as bad as people who slide the movies in front of me and stand there waiting for me to check them in while I’m helping other customers, or people who put them right next to the theft detectors and are oblivious to the fact that the beeping is being caused by their own stupidity, but still.

by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just when I thought the corporate world had lost its capacity to surprise me

I was in a meeting just now where we were talking about some new handhelds our field force will be getting. The guy that was running the demo was talking about the difference in specs between ruggedized handhelds, which are $1500 each, and non-ruggedized ones, which are about $100 each, and he actually said this:

“Well, the ruggedized ones are great because they’re ultra-durable, but they’re less performant than the non-ruggedized ones as far as their processors”. WTF? PERFORMANT IS NOT A WORD YOU MORON. What would be wrong with “their processors are a generation older and not as powerful as the non-ruggedized ones”?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

When you've got the power, you're the decider.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's not even in power, though

he’s the same level as me, a systems analyst. But he spends his day buried in tech manuals so he doesn’t converse well.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a word in the real world

but it is a pretty common tech word, when you’re talking about laptops/phones/GPS units etc that have been weathersealed, dust- and dirt-proofed, and shock-proofed. Performant, on the other hand, is just asinine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At some point, someone said the same thing about ruggedized.

People will be saying performant in five years.

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by acblue on Dec 3, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it, that's the depressing thing and why I wish I could be more pedantic in big meetings

but I’m gun-shy from the crap I used to take in project planning meetings at ING when I used to insist on calling employees on my projects “people” and not “resources”. I’m better at picking my battles now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why come you don't got no tattoo?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Dec 3, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's a pretty standard term

basically it means “no longer a standard consumer product”

by seattlebruin on Dec 3, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So what kind of kickback is he getting on promoting these ruggedized handhelds?

Who would purchase a device that costs 15x more than its more powerful counterpart?

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's not getting anything

he works for us, he was just showing us what we ended up getting. We got the cheaper ones, but it was a pretty long and intense discussion that’s been going for weeks – we’re the power company, so a) money’s not as much of an issue and b) the non-ruggedized ones will probably last less than a year per deployment with real-world use (these are for the field guys that repair transformers, poles, etc and they get pretty beaten up).

We ended up going with the cheaper ones because the vendor of both (HP) only warranties either one for three years, after which they recommend retirement, and we figured that there was no way that even the most brutal field dude will go through 15 of these things in three years. We will probably be proven wrong.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me about it.

I still look forward to the day that we get one of these things back in the office to be retired because a guy slammed it into his truck door or left it under the bucket as he lowered it to the ground, though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ruggedized is always better

in a lot of industries it’s worth the extra cost in order to ensure that your equipment is always available, especially if it reduces the amount of units you need to purchase

by seattlebruin on Dec 3, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it but in this case the cost differential was just too much

if HP was willing to back them for more than three years, it’d be a lot easier to justify the 15x expense, but for a three year guarantee you’re looking at disposable and cheap.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IT's for the guys in the field

(and yes, they’re all guys) that fix transformers, power lines, and the like, and are really, really hard on their equipment. The ruggedized ones make more sense from that standpoint, but they also lacked the technological wallop we needed – maps are ridiculously data-heavy and our maps are about 24 layers of data-heavy, and wouldn’t even come close to working on the more rugged ones out of the box.

So, we’re crossing our fingers and hoping that the more fragile ones will at least last a year each per person because they are the only devices that can support what we need to do with them.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh, we have similar problems

but it’s mostly laptops for us… those end up being kind of expensive

by seattlebruin on Dec 3, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

They don’t have to be Toughbooks, but I hope you’re not stiffing them with some flimsy HP laptops.

by BrianL on Dec 3, 2008 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't actually know what model/specs they get

but they cost about $1700 each so I’m guessing they’re a bit heftier than that. Laptops aren’t really a source of grief for us – most of our field guys leave their laptops in their trucks while they’re working, so the only serious problems are the occasional broken keyboard from mashing at the keys with gloved hands.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's slow.

Lets talk about my fantasy team. Then we can discuss my intimate views on politics. Later we can all share our innermost hopes and dreams.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 3:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I have been dreaming of the moment that you'd really open up to me.

Now that it’s here, I just don’t know what to do with myself.

by marc w on Dec 3, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of takes the fun out of stalking.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whats that now?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

After we talk about all that stuff

we can talk about how ERA’s a really valuable indicator of pitching performance, and how RBI’s are the most crucial evaluator of hitters.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Would you like to hear my innermost feelings on clutch hitting?

It’s kind of difficult to talk about, I’m not so conversant when it comes to my… personal issues.

by dpseadv on Dec 3, 2008 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even more David Lee Roth weirdness

I don’t know why DLR keeps getting this treatment when, say, Steve Perry (or any other random 80’s band’s singer) doesn’t, but here’s another isolated DLR vocal track, this time from Hot For Teacher.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 3:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think he was always a freak, though

and I’m certainly not defending him, I just think it’s odd that these sorts of things haven’t surfaced for the Steve Perrys, Mike Renos, and Huey Lewises of the world.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy christ Turbonegro are awesome.

I just got a copy of Darkness Forever and the whole thing just makes me smile, just like when I see them. Live albums are hit and miss a lot of the time, but this is one fun live band.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 4:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I got to hang out back stage and drink wine with them all night a couple of years ago.

Fun, freaky guys. It was a blast. A short time later, I got to hang out with Dokken. That was a trip.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to hang with Turbonegro

The closest I can claim to that is that when I was in Pittsburgh a few years back I bought a beer for the lead singer of Ass Cobra, the best Turbonegro tribute band I’ve ever seen.

OK, I’ve only ever seen the one Turbonegro tribute band, but still. It was a fun night.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 6:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Turbonegro. Hell, even my son has a Turbonegro shirt.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He does not, however, have a Headache in His Pants.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope not. And no Midnight NAMBLA either.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All of the people who have no idea what we're talking about

are probably wondering what the hell is going on here.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This page is going to come up in a sea of porn when people Google those names.

Might get me blocked from reading LL from campus someday. Thanks, guys.

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 6:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

graduate faster

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 3, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Six. More. Months.

Can’t wait. But thinking of my finance degree today and the announcement of 90,000 more planned layoffs in the financial sector doesn’t bode well in the short term.

I don’t have a job lined up yet, but I don’t mind working somewhere that doesn’t require a degree immediately after I graduate. I hear video rental stores are fun.

by Wilder. on Dec 3, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Though when he's older, he may well go to Dungaree High.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 3, 2008 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In theory I like VPN tunneling.

In practice I hate it because it can make me work from home.

by BrianL on Dec 3, 2008 8:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Anybody still hanging around?

Instead of beer tonight while bowling, I drank tea. Stupid being ill causing me to make strange decisions

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm here, but not for much longer.

Apparently getting up at 5:30 to go to work means you should go to bed before 3 AM.

by BrianL on Dec 3, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah whatever

I have been so fatigued the last few days that I’ve actually been able to fall asleep at normal times. It’s kinda weird

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I envy you.

I can’t sleep any earlier than 11:30 these days.

by BrianL on Dec 3, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude I'm normally up until like 2 or so

Falling asleep before midnight this past couple weeks hasn’t been too bad at all, though I’ve still had a few nights where I’ve been up until past 2. The bigger problem is that I have been so tired during the day that I’ve felt extra worthless. I mean, I went to bed at 11:30 last night, woke up at 9 this morning when the kid did, went and fell asleep on the couch while he ate cereal and watched cartoons, and took another nap this evening for 45 minutes. I’m tired as hell right now as well. It sucks, but I do love to sleep so that’s cool

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's where I benefit from having my son.

He wakes up at 9, and I could probably set my watch to it. So when I get up early for work, it’s at 7:45 but on my days off I’m up at 9 (though I wish I could just sleep until I wake up, which I really need anymore these days)

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 3, 2008 11:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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