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The OT, 12/29

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With all the enthusiasm for people wanting to create their own OT threads I'm surprised no one has made more of the opportunity the last few days.

Normally I would talk about how the warm day yesterday was just a cock tease from god, and how the skies have resumed shitting snow and why that upsets me, but I'm felling cheery so I'll leave you with this:

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As horrible of a day it was for football, I'm gonna dwell on the positive.

 

 

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Romo and the Cowboys get blown out of the water

and the Patriots miss the playoffs despite going 11-5.

Yesterday was a great day for football.

by BrianL on Dec 29, 2008 10:12 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh at least the Seahawks secured the 4th pick.

I also have no emotional attachment to Brett Farve and was rather disgusted by the bind he put the Packers in last summer.

by BrianL on Dec 29, 2008 10:37 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Farve told the Packers he was going to retire

and the Packers went forward to model a new offense for a new quarterback. Then Farve decides he wants to unretire and play again well into training camp after the playbook had been redesigned for Aaron Rodgers.

Now the Packers are in an unfortunate situation where they must either A) Trade Farve and try to explain to the fanbase why their long-time franchise quarterback no longer fit into the offense or B) throw out all of the offensive playbook changes, give Aaron Rodgers the highway salute, and try to change everything midway through training camp.

That entire situation is entirely on Farve.

by BrianL on Dec 29, 2008 10:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which means I won't be able to read anything at all sports-related until next football season

because I was seriously about to kill the next person that wrote a “will he won’t he” article this past summer. And I don’t even like football.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same here.

Drives me crazy, and it’s ridiculous that he’s allowed to do that

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 10:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think all sports should have a rule

that if you come out and say the words “retired”, “time off”, or any other couching of “I quit”, that you have to sit out for a season before your miraculous comeback. I’m fine with people wanting to play as long as they can, just DON’T SIT THERE AND TELL ME YOU QUIT IF YOU HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF COMING BACK.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I'm saying is that if you want to get someone to retire

who doesn’t really want to don’t be surprised when he comes back and when he does man up and grant him his release.

by JI on Dec 29, 2008 11:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THIS

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 11:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look, I'm not saying Favre is entirely innocent

but I’m tried of the Packers being portrayed as holy innocents .

by JI on Dec 29, 2008 11:23 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Both sides are at fault, for sure

But Favre shouldn’t have made it the situation that it was by just making up his mind from the get go

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 11:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was under contract.

That the Packers weren’t prepared to honourthat contract is their problem.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Dec 29, 2008 12:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which is what he wanted, and which was something the Packers couldn't give him.

If I recall correctly, the I believe the coaching staff said that they’d be fine with Farve unretiring and coming back in a reserve role.

by BrianL on Dec 29, 2008 1:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love our first pick

One of either Stafford, Bradford, Smith, or Oher is ours!

by katal on Dec 29, 2008 10:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank God you're not another person suggesting we draft Crabtree.

I’m sure he’s a talented player, I just don’t think he’s worth a Top-5 pick.

by BrianL on Dec 29, 2008 10:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry ... Fitz... Gerald

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:14 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Troy Williamson.

Mike Williams.
Roy Williams.
Reggie Williams.
Michael Clayton.
Charles Rogers.
Donte Stallworth.
David Terrell.
Koren Robinson.
Rod Gardener.
Peter Warrick.
Travis Taylor.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:24 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure, but other top 10 wideouts since 2000.

Plaxico (ignoring the self-shooting tendencies)
ANDRE FREAKIN JOHNSON
Larry Fitzgerald
Braylon (jury is out on this one)
Megatron

Plenty of the guys you listed weren’t top 5…

The point is who is evaluating the talent. Warrick was drafted by the Bengals, the Lions needed 3 busts before hitting on Megtron, and Roy Williams is not a bust. Any draft pick is a crapshoot (Robert Gallery!, Joey Harrington!), so it’s hard to completely ignore Crab

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True, I was looking at top-15.

But WR’s are fungible for the most part, and highly volatile.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No doubt

I get the idea that most wideouts are crazy, and so finding one with a good head on his shoulders like Crabtree appears to have would be a solid move. Tons of talent + crazy leads to your receivers shooting themselves in the foot metaphorically (TO), in the leg actually, or just changing their last name to Ocho Cinco

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No I realize that, but it's an issue as well.

The ones that aren’t drinking or doing drugs are brandishing weapons or punching teammates.

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not snowing in Portland

it’s raining like a bastard. It’s like last week never happened – there aren’t even that many dirty piles of snow around any more.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:14 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My street is flooding, but there is still ice underneath the water.

It was a fun little trip down my street this morning. Here comes the floods!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 29, 2008 10:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We got up to almost 50 degrees yesterday

so no ice, no flooding, nothin’. I want the snow back.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's about high thirties / low forties here...

My street was packed deep enough that it hasn’t all melted yet.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 29, 2008 10:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's been warm-ish and rainy the last three days or so...

…and yet there’s STILL a foot of snow on the ROADS in my ’hood. Getting in and out of the ’hood has been quite the challenge. Fortunately the rest of the roads are mostly plowed. But we still have a metric f-ton of snow on the ground here. It might take until July for the plow piles in our parking lot at work to finally melt…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Dec 29, 2008 10:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yesterday was indeed a good day.

My place got burglarized last week, and they took my HDTV, Xbox and laptop. So yesterday I set out to get a new TV, and I got it hooked up about five minutes before the Chargers-Broncos game. Then I opened a bottle of Speedway Stout. Glorious.

by Teej on Dec 29, 2008 10:16 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's pretty frustrating.

Mostly because I didn’t have renters’ insurance. I do now!

by Teej on Dec 29, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

renters insurance is the best thing ever

sorry you had to learn that one the hard way.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We had talked a couple months ago about getting it, too.

I was just lazy about it and figured I’d get around to it. Ugh.

by Teej on Dec 29, 2008 10:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

I won’t say “I told you so!” — but you did move into these apartments, so…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Dec 29, 2008 11:50 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know.

Like Teej was saying above, it;s just one of those things I keep saying “I’ll get to”…

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 29, 2008 10:32 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry, Robert. It's my neighborhood specifically

that got targeted by some teenagers a few years ago. I’m right by a high school. I think your place is okay.

by royalcurve on Dec 29, 2008 10:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wait for this film

Black Dynamite
The trailer is not at all work safe, btw.

by katal on Dec 29, 2008 10:23 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you and Kermit and I are all on board for that one

I showed Kermit the trailer a few weeks back and he seemed to fall in love. Tons to laugh about in the trailer, as well as the clips they’ve posted from it

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 10:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I watched Hamlet 2 again this weekend

it gets funnier every time I see it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:33 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes yes yes a million times yes

That and Hamlet 2 are my favorite comedies of the year.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Dec 29, 2008 10:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but keep in mind when you're watching it

that it’s a parody of Hollywood and how it works, not a parody of action movies. Although it’s that as well.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 10:50 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cool.

I used to not like James Franco, but after watching Freaks & Geeks I’m a fan.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 10:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To clarify:

This episode was entirely out of character for the show. And also, it painted an entirely inaccurate and extreme picture of marijuana use.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that ep was kinda strange

but I thought that the taking-drugs aspect of it was a lot better done than most TV “don’t do drugs” shows – in most shows, someone would take one single hit off a pipe/joint, then proceed to kill a senior citizen while driving, or wrap their car around a tree and end up in a coma so everyone could gnash their teeth and say “OH NO IT WAS THE DRUGS THAT DID THIS TO HER!”, but Lindsey…had to go babysit. I loved the part where she looked at the kid and just said “I NEED MY SPACE, MAN”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 11:03 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point.

I just hate when good shows fall into the trap of pandering to all audiences. I know TV shows have to do this in order to survive, but damn. I hate network TV.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh, it wasn't my favorite episode,

but I’ve definitely freaked the fuck out before—I ended up immobile, on a lounge couch, watching High School Music 2.

by Liebkartoffel on Dec 29, 2008 12:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A.k.a. the origin of Coach.

Living proof of what happens when you believe PSAs

by Matthew on Dec 29, 2008 12:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, this is a little belated.

But I got an Edgar Martinez autographed baseball for Christmas. I guess there was some novelty to it because Edgar was eating a cheeseburger and greased stained his hand print onto the ball.

Should I be excited? I became a Mariners fan in 2005, which is post-Edgar era, and started watching the M’s in 2004 when Edgar was wearing down, but I am aware of how good of a hitter he was at his prime.

by Fin on Dec 29, 2008 11:25 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't generally get excited about sports memorabilia in general

but there’s something oddly fascinating about an Edgar Martinez burger-grease-stained baseball, I gotta admit.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 11:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Considering he's Hall of Fame worthy, and one of the most beloved Seattle sports figures, yes. Absolutely.

Actually, it’s not worth shit. Here, I’ll take it off of your hands for you.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 11:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm re-thinking my Edgar for HOF stance lately.

The positional adjustment for DH is just too much to ignore.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To me much of it comes down to how much you can forgive him

because the Mariners were too stupid to kick Presley top the curb and let him play

by JI on Dec 29, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meh

If you position adjust everything then there’d be no 1B in the Hall either.

by Graham on Dec 29, 2008 11:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't want to be Olerud to anyone here,

but thinking of Big John still makes the LaHair on arms stand up.

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on *my * arms

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how dare you

I loved Big Rude long before I had ever smelled sabermetrics. He was patient, appeared to play good D, was always quiet and understated, and wore a batting helmet in the field after having an aneurysm. That’s all that I cared about when I was 13

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're going to stop, right?

Or am I going to have to make you stop?

by Robert on Dec 29, 2008 11:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

EVIL! EVIL!

GET AWAY! YOU’RE EVIL!

by Robert on Dec 29, 2008 12:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Nice Try.

Lol. I am getting a case for it and framing the picture of Edgar signing the ball behind it.

by Fin on Dec 29, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF

Reading this thread made me go look at my Edgar ball. I had forgotten that JJ Putz and Felix had also signed the same baseball.

Aaaaaand, so did Bill Bavasi. What the hell was I thinking.

by katal on Dec 29, 2008 11:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've got a Randy Johnson thumbprint on a card he autographed for me back in 1989...

And I’ll trade you my Rene Lachemann chicken-wings-stained autographed hat from the commercial for it!

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by PositivePaul on Dec 29, 2008 11:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BrianL, was it you who hated Fable II?

I got it for Christmas, and I’m having a blast with it. So far I’ve put in about 15 hours and I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:36 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait til you get to the end.

You’ll want to stab Peter Molyneaux as much as I do.

by BrianL on Dec 29, 2008 11:37 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I gave up on it after a while

Just didn’t do much for me. I’ve gone back to Fallout 3 the last couple of days, and am really getting into it. Great game

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 11:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It looks that way

I’m almost interested in going to see it, just for that reason

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 11:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The sight of him in the preview was good enough for me

The blonde afro poof thing and a full length dalmation looking coat had me convinced

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 11:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just re-read that and started to laugh

I pictured that in my head. How awesome that must be. I’m on!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 11:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That scene was the most random thing I think I have ever seen.

That started and I was like “what the hell?!?!”. Seriously though, if you’re even thinking about seeing it, stop thinking and go see it.

by Kirkharbaugh on Dec 29, 2008 1:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The most random thing I have ever seen was in Family Guy (of course).

Peter’s talking to Quagmire, and then randomly goes off and fights a chicken for 10 minutes, and then the episode continues.

Big Z is the MAN.

by Taylor H on Dec 29, 2008 1:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it's not funny.

It was kinda funny the first time it happened, but the resulting 10 times it has happened…

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 1:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I live for the chicken fights.

No joke, every time I watch a Family Guy rerun I hope that there is a chicken fight but this scene is almost if not equally random. I mean the setting in the scene to clarify though.

by Kirkharbaugh on Dec 29, 2008 1:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is anybody else intrigued by the movie "Unborn"?

I know it’s probably going to end up being a by-the-numbers horror movie, but the preview looks pretty damn scary.

by Phildopip on Dec 29, 2008 11:54 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am not a fan of the current genre of crap horror movies that use quick pans and sudden appeareances

along with disturbing masks or whatever. I like “Situational Suspense”, where the plot itself creates tension, like The Constant Gardener or Se7en.

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 11:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To whomever recommended The Mist,

good call. Though I did foresee the ending during the final few minutes, I still liked that it went there.

by Matthew on Dec 29, 2008 12:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really enjoyed that one as well

And also watched it based on the recommendation from here. My fiancee was hating it all the way up until the end, said that it was a typical Stephen King movie and that it was going to end with them driving away

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 12:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just watched that yesterday

and I saw the ending coming too, but that didn’t make it any less searing to watch.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 29, 2008 12:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it looks good.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 11:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same here

“Horror” flicks typically don’t do much for me because of the lousy attempts at cheap scares. This one seems a bit different, and I may go give it a shot. I need to go see more movies anyhow

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 12:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kind of reminds me of the movie The Descent.

Good movie that made me jump from time to time.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 12:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The writer was a story consultant on Batman Begins and Dark Knight

so maybe it won’t suck. Then again, he was heavily involved in Blade too…

by Matthew on Dec 29, 2008 12:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blade Too - Electric Bloodaloo

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 12:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's GOLD

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Dec 29, 2008 12:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another good .gif...

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 29, 2008 1:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They say it was a rib injury.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 1:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I don't fully understand how a rib injury causes a person to collapse,.

I’m more willing to believe TO was getting in his face in the shower and Romo’s natural defense mechanism kicked in.

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by abender20 on Dec 29, 2008 1:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A rib injury once made me collapse.

Or at least they thought it was a rib injury, turns out I had asthma.

by Kirkharbaugh on Dec 29, 2008 1:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's kind of scary.

I hate him as a player, but that’s not cool.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Dec 29, 2008 1:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't wish injury on anyone,

even QBs who haunt the covers of gossip rags.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 1:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As do many Dallas residents.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 1:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cryin'

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Dec 29, 2008 1:18 PM PST to parent up