Burke's Back, with Tacoma
That didn't last long. Perhaps because of our outpouring of support for Jamie Burke after he was non-tendered (no, not really), Jamie Burke has found himself a minor league contract with the Mariners.
So we have Clement and Johjima sticking around te big club for sure and Rob Johnson, Jamie Burke and Adam Moore hanging around in Tacoma. If we're going to carry a third-catcher that's not Chris Shelton, I think Burke fits the mold better than Johnson. For one, Burke's been around and knows some of the pitchers already. For two, Johnson probably benefits from the more reliable playing time. We'll see how this glut sorts itself out.
Hattip: Geoff Baker with the scoop.


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Pat Borders Version 2.0
Solid move with no down side.
by Sec 108 on
Dec 23, 2008 11:41 AM PST
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How long do think it'll be before Jack Z. moves one of our catchers?
It seems as if we have quite a few that either are or project to be Major League catchers. Maybe Jack Z. could move one and get some players that could strengthen other aspects of our farm system or Major League roster.
You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.
by Sentinel on
Dec 23, 2008 11:44 AM PST
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I think Johnson's a goner
What else can he possibly prove in AAA?
by JonBBT on
Dec 23, 2008 11:47 AM PST
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Problem is,
You can’t count on Johjima rebounding or Clement sticking behind the plate just yet.
by Matthew on
Dec 23, 2008 11:55 AM PST
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True.
But we’re stuck with Joh for the next three seasons, as I doubt anyone will take on his contract. I suppose Johnson could come up if Clement doesn’t stick, but that still leaves Adam Moore. Sure, Moore still has to move up a few levels, but if past performance is any key, he should be ready before we know it.
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by Sentinel on
Dec 23, 2008 12:03 PM PST
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There's nothing in Johjima's contract that says he has to play.
by Matthew on
Dec 23, 2008 12:05 PM PST
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What other options do we have, though?
Make him a $24 million dollar bench player? I’m ignorant of any other path we could take with him, as I’m unfamiliar with moves such as DFA’s and such.
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by Sentinel on
Dec 23, 2008 12:08 PM PST
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he costs 24 million whether he plays or sits. Familiarize yourself with the term sunk cost.
If there is someone that can outproduce him, that someone should play.
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by abender20 on
Dec 23, 2008 12:12 PM PST
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He's being realistic, though.
If this were a sim league, sure, play the best guy. But we know teams don’t always do that. There are politics involved.
I think Kenji’s movable if you eat some salary. Maybe a lot of salary. And don’t ask for much in return. But I imagine there are teams out there that would take him as their starting catcher. He never walks, so maybe Dayton Moore would be interested.
by Teej on
Dec 23, 2008 12:22 PM PST
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"He never walks, so maybe Dayton Moore would be interested."
It’s kind of a joke, but I’ve had the same thought as well. If anyone, Moore might want him.
by JonBBT on
Dec 23, 2008 3:33 PM PST
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I'm sure people were saying the same thing about us last year.
Asst. GM: “The kid never takes a walk! How the hell do you expect to move him?!?”
GM(picks up phone and dials): “Get me Bavasi on the line, stat!”
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by Sentinel on
Dec 23, 2008 8:23 PM PST
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I'm fine with playing someone above Johjima.
All I’m saying is we’re approaching a logjam at the catcher position (not a bad position to be in, if you ask me), and Johnson and Moore won’t wait for ever. Why not move one of them and see what you can get in return?
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by Sentinel on
Dec 23, 2008 12:26 PM PST
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But there is an opt-out in his contract after '09
He has an opt-out after the ’09 season to go play in Japan. My fantasy situation is hoping the Ms reduce his playing time this year, he exercises his opt-out and packs his bags.
by batura on
Dec 23, 2008 2:21 PM PST
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Exactly.
I think this is what happens, similar to how Kaz left with time on his contract once it was clear management wanted him gone.
by eponymous_coward on
Dec 23, 2008 2:25 PM PST
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Times
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2008199006_maribuild240.html
Nero added that, while there is an opt-out clause following 2009, specific language in the contract limits the reasons why Johjima could leave.
“It has to do with something catastrophic happening to a member of his family, that would force him to return to Japan,” Nero said, declining to get any more specific. “Not him bailing because he’s unhappy.”
In any event, he added, Johjima is happy in Seattle, gets along with teammates and wants to remain with the ballclub.
The Mariners make it a policy to refuse to discuss any aspects of player contracts with the media.
But a club official with knowledge of the situation, asked about the existence of an “opt-out” clause, shrugged and said: “That’s up to Kenji. It’s not our decision.”
Nero insists the extension is “a fully guaranteed three-year deal.”
But that wouldn’t appear to preclude a negotiation toward a financial settlement between the sides if Johjima, increasingly squeezed for playing time by Jeff Clement and Rob Johnson — with minor-leaguer Adam Moore rising quickly — decides he’d rather play every day back in Japan. Johjima wouldn’t comment on what he’d do if he again finds himself on the bench next year.
“Ask me that next year if the situation comes up,” he said, through interpreter Antony Suzuki. “Then, I’ll give you my answer.”
That being said, I think Johjima might leave because it’s a “face” thing- he’d rather play and collect a smaller paycheck in Japan than sit and collect a bigger paycheck in the US.
by eponymous_coward on
Dec 23, 2008 2:29 PM PST
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I want to trade Johjima ASAP for all the obvious reasons
If Clement can put together half a year of decent hitting then I would think about trading him if we could get good prospects in return.
I’d rather rely on Rob Johnson and Adam Moore. Clement’s health and defense worry me a lot about his future value. His value should still be rather high though so I think we should see what we can get for him.
by Edgar for Pres on
Dec 23, 2008 12:47 PM PST
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I want to trade Carlos Silva ASAP for all the obvious reasons.
Still isn’t going to happen.
by acblue on
Dec 23, 2008 1:02 PM PST
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Well yeah
Include Silva, Washburn, and Batista in that ASAP bubble too. Some things just aren’t gonna happen though.
by Edgar for Pres on
Dec 23, 2008 1:19 PM PST
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The Reds
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Dec 23, 2008 2:20 PM PST
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Is Burke more or less likely to pitch in AAA?
by Robert on
Dec 23, 2008 11:58 AM PST
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I hear he's working on a knuckleball
It’s really going to extend his career. Most knucklers have their best years after 30, you know.
by chaney on
Dec 23, 2008 12:42 PM PST
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More. He's already pitched in AAA while in the Angels system.
He beat Tacoma years and years ago in an extra-inning game.
by marc w on
Dec 23, 2008 6:45 PM PST
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I'll make extra trips to Tacoma to see Burke play.
by royalcurve on
Dec 23, 2008 12:03 PM PST
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especially if he pitches !
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by abender20 on
Dec 23, 2008 12:13 PM PST
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Sweet!
I need to re-up my press pass for next season in Cheney, then!
Churchill has some GREAT Pat Borders stories. I’d like to be there for some Burke stories…
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by PositivePaul on
Dec 23, 2008 1:29 PM PST
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I'm happy, but a bit confused.
Johnson’s still there, and Adam Moore really needs to move up. Do they carry three so the M’s don’t have to?
If Johnson/Moore isn’t traded, then Burke might start somewhere else – like Jackson.
by marc w on
Dec 23, 2008 6:47 PM PST
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My guess is that Johnson and Burke battle out the backup spot in ST
It wouldn’t surprise me if the M’s carried 3 catchers and use Kenji and Jeff as DH frequently.
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by PositivePaul on
Dec 23, 2008 7:03 PM PST
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Yeah - that might make sense
Either way, Johnson/Burke can’t be on the same team.
by marc w on
Dec 23, 2008 7:36 PM PST
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I may riot if Kenji is ever our DH
by Edgar for Pres on
Dec 23, 2008 7:41 PM PST
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You must have a police record by now then.
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by Matthew on
Dec 23, 2008 7:45 PM PST
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The difference is I have a little hope now
Kenji at DH may have been an improvement in some cases last year. Now that I’ve thought about last season, I’m a little depressed and might go hunt down the most alcoholic thing at my parents house and drink it as fast as possible to make the pain of last year go away.
by Edgar for Pres on
Dec 23, 2008 7:54 PM PST
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Kenji as DH: .114/.205/.143
Granted, Small Sample Size Theatre, but his overall stats weren’t better than Turbo’s, either.
by eponymous_coward on
Dec 24, 2008 12:30 AM PST
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