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From last Sunday:

Amaro hasn't had many conversations with Pat Burrell's agents, a sign that the Phillies aren't overly interested in bringing him back.

"I couldn't really put a percentage on it," Amaro said ambivalently.

The Phils want to get younger and more athletic, but Burrell won't be easy to replace.

Mission accomplished!

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The Phillies won the world series with a worthless lump of crap in left, who’s to say they won’t do it again? And there is considerably less room that Raul has to cover in that band box of a stadium compared to Safeco. Still a dumb move, but you could see why the phillies, and only the phillies wouldn’t put too much emphasis on LF defense.

by Turdburglar on Dec 12, 2008 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

I love that a team with Pat Burrell and Ryan Howard had an awesome defense.

Dewan has them as the best. DER has them as 10th.

Still, it speaks to the quality of the other guys that the team can be top-thirdish with two huge anchors like that.

by Teej on Dec 12, 2008 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dewan's splits show why:

Total: +74
OF: -4
CINF: +7
MINF: +71!!!

by Matthew on Dec 12, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Insane.

The Mets’ +75 in the OF blew my mind, too.

And Zduriencik just traded for one of the guys who put up a lot of those plus plays. I’m excited.

by Teej on Dec 12, 2008 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Sick.

Oh fuck you. Get out of work? Do what i do and piss your pantalones. Ain’t no one going to fuck with you when you piss your pants. -- kevin_ess, winebibber

by Wilder. on Dec 12, 2008 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, please ignore "almost"

Utley has been +85 for the past three years, the best in baseball. So average it out and we’re looking at something like +28 per year. That still looks high to me, but whatever.

I think a safe bet is calling him between +15 and +25. UZR has him around +20 the past two years.

by Teej on Dec 12, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That's insane

  You always hear about his bat, so I always kinda figured his D would be average, and even if it wasn’t the phillies would be happy with it, but christ that’s unbelievable.

  How was he not the MVP this year? Pujols is no slouch, but 2B is a bit more valuable than first.

by gord on Dec 12, 2008 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Instead he finished in 8th (?) place, miles behind Ryan "RBI" Howard...

At the very least, he should have been higher than Howard. Grrr….

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Dec 12, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

15th, actually.

It’s pretty disgusting.

by Teej on Dec 12, 2008 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

They have a truely dizzying intellect.

The Phillies want to get younger & more athletic.
Burrell is on the wrong side of 31.
The Phillies replace him with Raul.

Wait, what?

“Mission Accomplished” awesome! The irony burns like hygiene.

by Kunkoh on Dec 12, 2008 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

Phillies fan here

To congratulate you on receiving our first round pick. Do us proud—the last time we picked up an excessively ancient type A free agent destined to break down midway through his contract (Tom Gordon), I believe it resulted in Ian Kennedy and Joba Chamberlain, so you have a high bar to clear.

But at least saying his name a lot won’t get old, right? Right?

…Is there ANY consolation to be had? (well, besides the winning the World Series last year thing)

by bugbear on Dec 13, 2008 12:13 AM PST reply actions  

I like amazing catches viewed in person more

Than watching Raul or anyone else fall all over themselves. I am so very excited to watch this OF play D next year.

by Sec 108 on Dec 13, 2008 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, you have excellent photoshop skills.

Oh fuck you. Get out of work? Do what i do and piss your pantalones. Ain’t no one going to fuck with you when you piss your pants. -- kevin_ess, winebibber

by Wilder. on Dec 13, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't even see who's in your pic.

Is that Chavez/Gutierrez/Ichiro?

It’s awesome, by the way.

And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic...

by Blicks on Dec 13, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure where to ask this

but what does everyone think of Jerry Hairston?

Hairston said he is picking between Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati.

by Slica on Dec 13, 2008 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

This would be Jerry Jr.?

Or has Scott Hairston been around enough to be a FA?

by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 13, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

In any case

I think they’re both useful players who would be good to have on the roster, for the right price.

by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 13, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Could be solid off the bench for the right price

He’s a black Jehova’s Witness version of Willie Bloomquist but effective. Last year he was somewhat awesome, but more than likely a small sample size. It seems in his career he’s only effective when he plays ~ 80 games with ~ 270 ABs. Pretty much a solid baserunner and good flexible fielder on the bench that won’t murder himself at the plate.

by edddgar on Dec 13, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

ah, here's the quote

“[Jay] Bruce said Hairston is considering Seattle and Philadelphia as well as the Reds. The Reds probably would offer the most playing time to Hairston, but these things often come down to money.”

by msb on Dec 13, 2008 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

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