Close of Meetings Rumor/News Thread
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Even as the Angels continue to pursue Mark Teixeira, it appears that Raul Ibanez has emerged as their No. 1 alternative if Teixeira signs elsewhere. There were indications that the Angels already have begun negotiating the parameters of a deal with Ibanez on a just-in-case basis.
- A.J. Burnett appears headed to a five-year, 85-90 million contract with the Yankees.
- Derek Lowe might also be signed by the Yankees.
- The Yankees are trying to pry Mike Cameron away from the Brewers. The Yankees appear seriously pissed about missing the playoffs.
- The following Mariners were selected away in Rule 5: Miguel Marquez, Gerardo Esparza and Andrew Barb. Yawn.
- Nick Punto gets a two-year, $8.5 million contract?
- Seriously, holy crap are the Tigers retarded.
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They aren’t getting any for Darren Olvier
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Looks like we snagged an interesting yet far-too-old for his league LHP in the rule 5 draft
Jose Lugo, we traded with the Royals to get him after they picked him from the Twins. Looks like he’s got some strike out ability—he’s struck out 295 in 300 minor league innings.
I didn’t see anywhere else mentioning this pick, just Ryan and Corona, so sorry if I just missed it.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Ah, there's the analysis on USSM. LOOGY type with GB tendencies, I guess.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 11, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
We have no idea how his defense at 1B would be. He really hasn't played there.
And a lot depends on his contract, but take him out of lefty-friendly SafeCo, and move him to DH, (worth about -1.5 wins on the D spectrum) and he’s got to not collapse to avoid being another bad investment. Plus moving him to DH keeps Vlad in the OF.
Also
F Lopez → Diamondback→ can make $1.8m
HoRam -
Yankees—→ Pisses that they have to give up more than Melky Caberea to land Cameron
It makes for an interesting diagram.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 11, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Jeff, Matthew, and Graham are all gonna punch your junk and there's no stopping it
Unless we sign Bradley, Furcal, and possibly Edmonds.. and even then it’s kind of iffy. My advice to strap a bomb to yourself go down to Safeco and start making demands.
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But you might get to say "RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL" at games
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 11, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
"How many "u's" are there in your name?"
“Duh.. Sometimes 5…Sometimes 8”
by seamariners85 on Dec 11, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
E-mail exchange with my roommate who's a huge Angels fan
Him: Our second choice after Tex is… Raul Ibanez! LoL!
Me: You’re so screwed
Him: Hahahahaha. Oh wait… yea… we are….
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
If Raul goes to LAAAAA, can we just transfer
The Takes Pride in His Defense sidebar over to Rev? Or keep it here and constantly mock?
by seattlesundevil on Dec 11, 2008 11:22 AM PST reply actions
If Raul goes to LAAAAAA,
Does that mean we go sign Freddy Garcia just to fuck with him?
Blow it up! BLOW IT SKY HIGH!
Contention
I have to wonder why we are still saying we can’t content for the West next year. We’ve fixed every defensive hole not named Yuni, made modest improvements to the offense (simply leaving Sexson and Vidro off the roster accomplished this, not to mention adding Branyan) and our starting pitching should regress for the better next year. We do have holes in the bullpen, but I don’t think those are impossible to overcome.
I think if we signed a good DH (Bradley), signed Fields (to help with the bullpen holes), we would be very, very close to contention. We do still have pieces lying around that are valuable enough to possibly get a new SS, but that would probably be difficult. Orlando Cabrera would be a defensive upgrade, but an offensive nightmare.
What do you guys think? I’ve seen various posts over the last few days that were still Bearish for next year, but this is a very different roster going forth.
I don't think we are extremely far away
But a lot of things have to go right next season. None of them are totally outlandish, never gonna happen kind of things, but there are a lot of them nonetheless.
by seattlesundevil on Dec 11, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
That is true
I mean, look at some of the teams last year that weren’t bad but got slammed by injuries and under performance. Yankees, especially.
We're not going to go after any moderate or big names
From the looks of things, Zduriencik is doing what I was hoping he’d do – build for the future while attempting to field a team in 2009 that can play .500 baseball, and maybe a little more with some good luck. It’s not impossible that we could contend. It’s just not likely, or expected.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 11, 2008 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
haha
The M’s have no offense, no pitching and have now patched themselves up to be maybe a slightly above average defense? Milton Bradley had a good season in Texas, even at DH something is reasonably likely to go wrong with him and he isn’t that good anyway.
The M’s are far and away the worst team in the division. I’ll admit I’m primarily an A’s fan, but I’m also an M’s fan and I’m from Seattle. I can see the reality though, and that is last place unless Texas or Oakland falls apart, unlikely on either end.
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okay, 1 pitcher....1 very very good pitcher
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What is Bedard's timetable for recovery?
I’ve heard everything from “ready by spring training” to “ready by the end of May.”
My impression was midyear, maybe even past the trade deadline.
I’ll see what I can find.
the other angels fan
I guess you are right
I’d take it with a grain of salt, but they are targeting ST.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081208&content_id=3706474&vkey=news_sea&fext=.jsp&c_id=sea&partnerId=rss_sea
the other angels fan
Right
he didn’t have a tear in there, just a ChocoFrosted Sugar Cyst (or whatever folks around here agreed on).
by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 11, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know if I can take you seriously when you are a) counting on Bedard already, and B) didn’t go with “Washburn or Silva” at the end. Also *RRS is a pretty big question mark with questionable upside, no?
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Yes, thanks for your hospitable tone though
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Well, roughly, I'm looking at the expected VORP of your likely starters
and then just crudely factoring in possible areas of likely improvement and taking into account other teams in the division.
If Z pushed it he could make an unlikely challenge for 2nd and a very unlikely challenge for 1st. Clearly, he isn’t going to try, that’s a good thing, and he will probably trade away Beltre and end the remote possibility of contention in doing so. I realize no one is suggesting the M’s are competetive quite yet, so maybe I’ve taken exception to the idea that they are “very close.” Help me understand how they are so close?
Also, I’m not sure how Gutierrez impacts things? (Does that mean OF of Gutierrez, Balentin and Ichiro?)
I might also be biased in my hatred for Carlos Silva and Washburn, but I don’t expect a huge rebound. Him and Wash will benefit from the defensive improvements, but they still stink. What would be an average projection for them, for RRS, for Morrow next year as a starter? Same goes for Bedard. I don’t have the numbers off-hand, but I’m not just spouting off here, I don’t think any decent system has or would project very favorably (as SPs). Sure, there is upside, but what is the 50% likelihood?
I just get the sense that some are expecting the M’s additions and additions by subtractions to pay significant dividends in ‘09, but really both the Rangers and the A’s have loaded farm systems that are likely going to start paying out next year, giving these clubs a mediocre chance at competing with the Angels and leaving the Mariners deep in the cellar. I think Z also sees this fate.
The Angels have a good rotation.
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I wasnt talking about the pitchers
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RR-S has an upside of a decent #3 starter
a downside of a meh #5 guy or long-relief arm. It’s not like we’re hurting for BOR candidates anyway.
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like Tex is gonna end up in Boston
Explain to me again why the West and Central have automatic playoff beths?
Ugh, so lame.
Though it never did make sense for the Nationals. Whither Dmitri Young and Nick Johnson (if he’s still alive) ?
It would be awesome to sweep in and get Manny at 2/38 with a third year option at $22M.
Put him at DH and watch our offense go.
But it sounds like GMZ is set on getting a lefty sock to fill the position.
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The continual building of the team for Safeco is both awesome and strange
A strange new feeling.. hope?
by seattlesundevil on Dec 11, 2008 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
He's a bad fit for us
but for the Yankees he seems like the perfect DH.
Plus, it would generate excitement among the fans etc.
Yeah, it is unfortunate he is a bad fit for us and perfect for NYY.
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2:18 p.m. — Will Ibanez sign before Teixeira?
Raul Ibanez could be the next free-agent slugger to sign after Mark Teixeira — if Ibanez doesn’t choose his next team first.
Two of the teams bidding for Teixeira — the Angels and Nationals — also are pursuing Ibanez, according to major-league sources.
But Ibanez, 36, could decide to join the Cubs, Mets, Phillies or another club interested in him without waiting for the Teixeira losers.
Was just readin that too
How an NL team would have any interest is beyond me.
by seattlesundevil on Dec 11, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
How did we miss the Phillies as the obvious destination?
Pat Gillick’s influence lingers.
What's the best possible scenario for us, Raul-related draft pick-wise?
Angels?
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Dodgers or D'backs, I believe...
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Dec 11, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not the Mets!
And not the Angels if they somehow manage to get Tex.
But yeah, as Paul said, the Dodgers would be the best-case scenario as far as how high the draft pick would be, but it’s gotta be a team that doesn’t sign a higher-ranked free agent. (Though if the Dodgers re-sign Furcal, we’d still be good.)
Mets would be the worst right now.
Since they signed K-Rod, the Angels get their first round draft pick. We’d get the second round.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 11, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Where's the thread on the
big three-way mega trade with Putz etc?
I read about it on Athletics Nation. Came here to see the reactions, but I don’t see a fanpost for it.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Ah, thanks.
I didn’t recognize it from the title.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
David Samson is talking shit about the CC deal
ahahahaha
“[The Yankees] spend like drunken sailors”
and other stuff about how in these tough times people need to tighten their belts.
That's one of few things that Bavasi did right.. Telling off that insane-o
by seattlesundevil on Dec 11, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Bill Bavasi did a hell of a lot of things right
it’s just that properly valuing talent wasn’t one of them… =(
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Bavasi was the man
He just couldn’t assemble a quality baseball team
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by Corco on Dec 11, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My dad almost rear-ended Bavasi last April.
He was really nice about it, and he’s actually a really funny guy.
Only when we drove away did I realize who we had been talking to.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 11, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
?? Realy? He's got a pretty recognizeable face...
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
How does a Mariners fan not immediately recognize Bill Bavasi?
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by Corco on Dec 11, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And if you almost rear ended him but did not why would you need to get out of the car and talk to him
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by Corco on Dec 11, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking it's almost time to call shenanigans
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by Corco on Dec 11, 2008 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you're going to lie you may as well not leave a bunch of obvious plot gaps for us to exploit
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The fuck?
I’m not lying. After almost hitting him, we rolled down our window to say sorry, and he laughed it off and it was all good. I haven’t mentioned it before because there was never a need to mention it.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 11, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
How do you possibly draw that he's a really funny guy based on him laughing and saying "it's all good"
I’d expect 99% of the population would do that because basically nobody rolls down their window to apologize for almost hitting somebody, especially from the rear where he probably didn’t know you almost hit him anyway
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I saw him in public once and couldn't look away
It’s a unique face.
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Anti HD face.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I saw him in the Safeway in Queen Anne
right before the Bedard trade went through. I thought about having one of the checkers page Adam Jones to the front of the store.
the other angels fan
I saw him once while watching Young Frankenstein
in the theater and also going into the bathroom at the very end of intermission. He’s kind of hard to miss.
I saw him at FanFest once
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You shouldn't admit things like that
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This isn't ringing any bells, what was this all about?
A couple quick google searches are netting my bupkis.
After Seattle gave Ichiro that contract extension
Florida GM David Samson flipped a tizzy for some, inexplicable reason. Bavasi responded by saying
My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is, ‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all. So I’m not going to say anything at all. Is my mother the greatest or what?
Hahahahahaha! Now I remember! That was brilliant
I was thinking of Dave Sampson in the context of a reporter from the way the original comment was phrased, one I made that mistake I couldn’t put that together. Thanks.
Here's what Samson said. Via Ted Miller at the P-I:
Appearing on Dan Le Batard’s South Florida radio show, Samson said Ichiro’s new, five-year, $100 million contract — as reported by the Seattle P-I’s John Hickey — will “literally take the sport down.”
Samson, who repeatedly cited Ichiro’s age (34 when the new contract begins) said he was “speechless” as he made his speech. He called the contract “complete mismanagement.” He added that, “Ichiro? Who’s led his team to zero, nothing!”
As much as I respect the Mariners for being able to make something out of a little.
This guy seriously needs to shut up or retire. I mean, they’re getting their stadium soon, they will be able to spend like everyone else then.
[expletive] Dave Samson.
That dipshit couldn’t get a job selling stale beer at a Marlins game if his father-in-law didn’t own the team.
Mr. Samson: In tough times, YOU need to tighten your belt, because you run a shitty business. If you want to tell other people how much money they can spend, ask pops to go buy an NFL team.
Andrew Barb?
Does he even still play baseball? I couldn’t find any stats on him from last year…
After the Moyer trade I tried to keep tabs on him and Baldwin…see if either of them do anything…
Now you can't make any more front page posts.
TWSG must stay above the line.
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Well..looks like the Royals may turn HoRam back into a starter...weeee
I fucking hate you Mariners
I hope our schedule aligns with this idea.
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Some AAA teams, a cup of coffee, and a jelly donut could have randomly shut us down last year.
Torches are out of style now, but I would like to see some payback on HORAM.
Beltre added Twins to his partial no-trade list?
Does that even make sense?
When [the Twins] attempted to investigate a possible deal, they discovered that — since the last time they’d looked into Beltre during the season — he’d added the Twins to a list of teams on his limited no-trade clause. Twins officials were somewhat surprised, though it’s not unusual. When a player sees a team showing public interest in trading for him, they will sometimes amend their no-trade to include that club and then use it as a bargaining chip down the road. Usually, some kind of cash settlement is needed.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/12/11/beltre_added_notrade_clause_wi.html
the other angels fan
Makes a ton of sense
Makes sure that he would get compensation for the move. Just like Washburn → Yankees that Chuck cockblocked last year.
Right, but if you can change the teams on a partial no-trade list
You could make it work like a full no-trade then. That’s the part that doesn’t make sense.
the other angels fan
Or
It could be that the the partial list has a maximum amount of teams and a maximum number of additions/subtractions. I can guarantee that the contracts written for these situations have every possible scenario covered.
Could be that he can change them at the end of the season or something
and that after hearing his name in rumors to the Twins during the season he changed it right after
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Beltre takes the infield, Carlos Gomez in the outfield. You wouldn't even have to play anyone else in the field.
Can't wait for Ruskell to knock this one out of the park.
Yes you would, the seven automatic outs would kill the offense
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
You could have 7 other players in the lineup.
They just would play defense in an extreme shift known as “Sitting on their asses somewhere.”
the other angels fan
Turns out seven Nick Puntos would cost you quite a bit of money
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 11, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Nick Punto is pretty good at catching Nick Punto.
Nick Punto does a good job of being a mentor and a veteran figure to Nick Punto.
by Matthew on Dec 11, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So basically if it were a team of all Nick Puntos, Nick Punto would be a pretty good player
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn't Adrian need a first baseman to throw to?
I know he’s great and all, but running really fast wasn’t his strong suit last time I checked
by seattlebruin on Dec 11, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
That's where Gomez's speed comes in
On any ball hit to Beltre, Gomez covers all necessary bases.
I never know who to blame
for the Yankees hype machine , but Melky shouldn’t get that deal even close to done. UZR has him a exactly average, PMR essentially the same a CF. His bat was piss poor by whatever metric you care to choose from. I’m assuming he is a super two, what is the upside for the Brewers in this deal? Brewers are better off keeping Cameron
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Farnsworth is such a fucking slut
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Hilarious
Manny Ramirez is growing extremely upset about the lack of suitors for his services, so much so that he has told friends he would contemplate retirement if a suitable offer doesn’t arrive soon, a person close to the situation told Newsday.
I don't even get what they're going for
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 11, 2008 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well, technically that would be internal/slant rhyme.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 11, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's neither
internal rhymes can only be within a larger framework of rhyming syllables; here there are two. A slant rhyme is an imperfect one, whereas good wood is about as rhymey as you can get. You gotta stay in school, son.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 11, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Good thing I screenshotted this before you commented.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 12, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions
I think it's been obvious for a while
the site is run by 15 year-olds. I’m pretty sure Jim Street get’s dropped off at work with a brown bag lunch.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 11, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm that grandpa
get’s? what the eff? I hate that mistake. Drives me crazy. I wish the grammar gestapo on this site would go after the improper apostrophe instead of capitalization.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 11, 2008 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
You misspelled fuck, grandpa!
I agree that the ridiculous use of the apostrophe today is a bigger sin to the language, but I don’t think a baseball blog is going to be any substitute for what people should have learned in school. Our rantings probably wouldn’t do much good. Not capitalizing anything, however, is just laziness and disrespect to the the people who have to read it. That’s more frustrating to me.
And since this is a bit of an open thread, pardon me for putting in one of my favorite Dirty Work quotes:
You know what hurts the most? The lack of respect. That’s what hurts the most. . . . Well, actually . . . that other thing . . . that hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most!
Absolutely.
His turn on the roast of Bob Saget was one of funniest things I’ve ever seen. And the entire audience was silent. So brave to do something like that.
I am glad I watched that
that was the one part I missed when I was watching the Roast a few weeks ago.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 11, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a sucker for roasts, but I understand how horribly predictable they are, and how lame most of the comedians are.
And that came out of nowhere and just killed me.
Just a massive send-up of the entire audience and Comedy Central.
Pretty much, “Let’s see if these people will laugh at anything that isn’t a ‘saggy vagina’ joke.”
I love Norm so much.
Holy shit
The Chairman of the Board stuff on Conan was unbelievable. I had never seen that. I’ve seen the View interview a couple times, but that was insane on Conan. Just deriding another guest’s upcoming movie.
He is my hero.
(And I am one of the five people on Earth who saw that Carrot Top movie, and it deserves every joke that was made about it before and after its release.)
Favorite Norm moment
when he came back to SNL to host the show.
Audio only sorry
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 12, 2008 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, she was.
I’m glad they gave her that much airtime. She got more than anyone else, if I’m not mistaken.
Jayson Stark throwing a guess out there of Non-Tenders..
Takashi Saito in the list.. Daniel Cabrera too – Some interesting names.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3763719&name=winter_meetings_2008
by seattlesundevil on Dec 11, 2008 7:20 PM PST reply actions
I would like Thames, Cabrera, Gross and Gomes please.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 11, 2008 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I guess Cabrera would be dumb since we have starting pitchers coming out of our ears
but I have a blind spot for pitchers that should be better than they actually are because I’m kind of an idiot.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 11, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Cabrera's velocity is also way down from what it used to be
FB has lost 4 MPH from three years ago, and slider has lost 6 MPH. It might be interesting to see what he could do as a reliever, though.
...
I have a blind spot for pitchers that should be better than they actually are because I’m kind of an idiot.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 11, 2008 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
We don't really like AIM-speak like "lol" here at Lookout Landing.
Perhaps you should take a look at the Lookout Landing Style Guide.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 11, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I find Saito, Gross, Yates, and Thames to be interesting.
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Thames seems almost like a no brainer.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 11, 2008 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
How's Thames on defense? Seems like he'd make a pretty good DH.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 11, 2008 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Not very good.
He’d be an okay stopgap at DH and a decent guy to have on a rebuilding team that’s trying to not look horrible.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 11, 2008 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Thames can't hit right handers, but if he's cheap
at worst you could platoon him with Branyan.
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
A person can use the word platoon with the M's now, and be serious.
I like that a lot more than words can express.
Same.
Wilkerson/Morse just doesn’t cut it.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 12, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, but
usually the fifth doesn’t get a ton of PT. Each of those guys would warrant some serious PT.
I was just talking about how this is one of my favorite LLimages the othernight
by Robert on Dec 11, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's a shitload of walks.
Mariners ----> Brewers.
by .Taylor on Dec 12, 2008 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
tehehehehehe
In the suit, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, the Dodgers argue the torn labrum that required surgery and limited Schmidt to six games over two years was unrelated to the rotator cuff injury and thus covered by insurance.
Dodgers spokesman Josh Rawitch said Tuesday the team could not comment on a pending legal matter. …
It is believed the Schmidt physical included an MRI examination that confirmed the rotator cuff injury. In the suit, the Dodgers claim such injuries are not uncommon and said they awarded him the contract based on his success with the Giants.
“Major league pitchers often experience such partial rotator cuff tears but nevertheless remain competitive and effective,” the suit reads, "as Mr. Schmidt had demonstrated himself to be during the 2006 season immediately prior to joining the Dodgers.
“The Dodgers therefore did not find Mr. Schmidt’s preexisting rotator cuff condition to exclude him from consideration as a team member.” …
Remember how DoV had a huge hard on for him
yeah that was awesome. However bad Bavasi did, he tried to do much, much worse.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 11, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
It's a merger of last year's and the ones from the 80s.
They kinda suck. No red?
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
If I were the M's I'd use the old good version of the navy top
(not the new gay one with mismatched fonts) on the road.
by JI on Dec 11, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
GS52 approved!
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 11, 2008 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa.
Yuk shaved, David Ortiz got old, and izzat Dwight Evans?!
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 11, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
This looks like a baseball uniform.
I simply have no eye for these changes. These guys could wear clown shoes and red wigs and I wouldn’t notice.

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