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Arbitration For Raul

Good news from Larry LaRue. After Raul declines and goes away to be someone else's hilassacre, we'll land a pair of picks, and thereby avoid the retarded Jose Guillen mistake we made last winter. You want evidence that the new administration is better than the old one? There you go. Good heavens was that ever stupid.

In addition, we're bringing in two new coaches. Ty Van Burkleo comes over from Oakland to be Wakamatsu's new drinking buddy, and Lee Tinsley will regale baserunners and first basemen alike with stories of how he totally sucked in Sega's World Series Baseball '94. I expect he'll also give good advice, because if Tinsley learned anything from his own career, it's that standing on first base is a rare privilege, not a right, and you shouldn't try to pull anything stupid because you never know if you'll ever be back there again. Isn't that right, Lee? You were a bad little player, weren't you? Weren't you? Yes you were. awww

Fun fact: in 1996, Tinsley was successful on eight of twenty steal attempts.

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Thank god.

Lets bring on the draft picks!

by Kirkharbaugh on Dec 1, 2008 12:50 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit.

No draft picks for Bloomquist or Cairo.

Well, I don’t think you get picks for Type Z- players anyway, so, YAAAAaaawwwwwnnn…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Dec 1, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You were a bad little player, weren’t you? Weren’t you? Yes you were. awww

are you talking dirty to Lee Tinsley? You dirty dog.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 1, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is terrible

Now were stuck with him for another year at an inflated salary because he won’t get any multi-year offers anywhere else.

Furcal

by JI on Dec 1, 2008 1:44 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fun fact: in 1996, Tinsley was successful on eight of twenty steal attempts.

13 for 13 in 1994!

Furcal

by JI on Dec 1, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am looking forward to the 4 picks.

Is there any word as to whether Albert Pujols will be available via the Rule 5? That would be a decent signing I guess.

Can't wait for Ruskell to knock this one out of the park.

by abender20 on Dec 1, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 first rounders, I should have said.

The M’s first rounder, the recouped first rounder for not signing Josh Fields, and the 1st pick + sandwich pick for Raul presumably signing elsewhere. 4 picks. A step in the right direction.

Can't wait for Ruskell to knock this one out of the park.

by abender20 on Dec 1, 2008 2:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, OK.

I count three, but I wasn’t including the Fields compensation. I still wonder if they might sign him. I hope they don’t.

by Teej on Dec 1, 2008 2:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, four picks.

We’ll have four picks in the first two rounds of next year’s draft. That assumes Raul doesn’t take arby and that he signs with a team that would have to give up a first (preferable) or second round pick by signing him, but it seems possible.

We get five picks if Fields doesn’t sign, four of them in first round.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 1, 2008 2:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

Did you hear the one about Raul Ibanez and the hyperbaric chamber?

“The first thing people say is, ‘Oh, you mean like Michael Jackson?’” Ibanez says, chuckling. "I’m not afraid of that stigma.

You name it, Ibanez is doing it — joint alignment, muscle activation, active-release techniques, even Brazilian jiujitsu. He speaks with conviction about trying to reach his “genetic threshold,” or physical peak. He even keeps three hitting advisors — former major leaguers Edgar Martinez, Chili Davis and Kevin Seitzer — on speed dial.

To the average person, his techniques might sound like weird science. Ibanez responds, “If you Google all this stuff, it’s real science.” And with baseball now testing for performance-enhancing drugs, such avenues of training become that much more important.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8874364/Ibanez-more-intense-than-most-about-training

Furcal

by JI on Dec 1, 2008 1:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is weird.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Dec 1, 2008 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And with baseball now testing for performance-enhancing drugs, such avenues of training become that much more important.

… cause Selig can’t test me for batshit crazy! Hah!

Also, what was that about MJ?

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 1, 2008 2:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it strange he referred to Michael Jackson instead of someone like Anthony Gonzalez.

But I guess Ibanez being compared to a batshit crazy music performer is closer than a football athlete.

by Wilder. on Dec 1, 2008 2:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lance Armstrong use one as well.

I think it is because Raul and Michael Jackson share the same throwing arm.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Dec 1, 2008 2:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's below average

that’s pretty bad for a guy who gets so much attention.

by Jeff on Dec 1, 2008 2:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's not below average

The mariners were just too retarded to use him as a DH.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 1, 2008 3:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To expand:

As Dave put it, when defense is factored in, Ibanez is about 1 or 1.5 wins above replacement. Average is around 2.

Moving him to DH obviously takes away his bad defense, but that also strips a lot of value from him because now you’ve filled the spot in the lineup where it’s quite easy to find a good hitter.

Raul would have been an above-average DH in 2008, but he still wouldn’t have been an above-average MLB player.

by Teej on Dec 1, 2008 3:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes i agree with this

you’re right, he is defensively very bad

by Woodinville_12thMan on Dec 1, 2008 9:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Raul was the worst defensive outfielder on the team

and he played in the biggest part of Safeco’s outfield. Any contribution he made with the bat was given right back when he took the field.

by BrianL on Dec 1, 2008 2:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I'd say we rather brought in somebody smarter

than actually learned something since learning something means the same person has to avoid a prior mistake.

by Matthew on Dec 1, 2008 3:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahahaha

Lee Tinsley? Thats what I love about coaches, most of the time it’s a player you remember but never thought youd EVER see again.

So…Jeff Huson for 3rd base coach next year then? Is Brent Gates doing anything?

by Karma Police on Dec 1, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's easy.

Huson is an analyst for the FSN Rockies broadcasts.

Gates is the baseball coach at Grand Rapids Christian HS. His wife coaches volleyball at East Grand Rapids HS.

by msb on Dec 1, 2008 10:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard to believe

we went from having the worst run ball club in baseball to one of the best run clubs in just a matter of a couple of months.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Dec 1, 2008 4:23 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Dec 1, 2008 7:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too

though it’s actually plausible that we might end up saying it. We probably won’t, though I do think we’ll at least be better than average, but I can actually see this FO being one of the best in the majors. Something to hope for, anyway — which is a nice change.

by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 2, 2008 6:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And to think GMZ was the last guy on the list we wanted.

I recall us all clamouring for Ng or LeCava.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Dec 2, 2008 9:06 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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