Take 5 Seconds and Help Dave
by Matthew on Nov 14, 2008 1:31 PM PST
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It's rare that you get to help people that deserve help and rarer still when that effort costs you nothing but a few seconds (seriously, you have to click your mouse three times) and actually has a substantial benefit.
And hey, if anyone wants to send me $10K to help pay off my student loans, I'm listening.
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Thanks for pointing that out, Matthew. I hadn't been to USSM in a while.
Dave’s great at what he does, and I was happy to vote. Wish I could do it 5 or 10 times. Wait…..
Some of the other sites have double USSM's traffic
One of them is a political blog out of the midwest, and the guy currently in second place blogs for M.I.T.’s official admissions page. I would really love to win (seriously, a month into married life, $10,000 would be amazing), but I have a feeling this is going to take a lot of work to beat out a few of these other guys.
Honestly
Even Corco is no match for an M.I.T. student with a basic knowledge of how to write a poll-bombing script.
I’ve already sent an email to the people running the contest to make sure they’re on the lookout for people gaming the system. Hopefully, it’s a fair fight.
you think I don't know how to write a poll-bombing script?
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And you sir are correct
I was hammered when I wrote that comment
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Corco is smarter than you think
With like 12 lines of code we can dominate this asshole
I’m not going to do it, but I certainly could
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They're really leaving a $10,000 scholarship up to a popularity contest?
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
Check your local TV schedule
and count how many of the shows involve popularity contests these days and say hello to today’s media culture.
Well, those shows are designed to grab viewers so they can charge more for advertising.
Does the blog hosting this thing think they can reel in voters to enough of a degree to make money? I honestly don’t know, as I paid zero attention to what kind of site it was.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
The new wife
will have a hard time arguing that USSMariner is a huge waste of time after you win this thing.
We could probably get Athletics' Nation to vote for you, too.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Done and done.
Well, until tomorrow.
Is this a once a day thing, or a one and done poll?
And here comes the sore losers- From the comments on the voting page:
If this contest is based on one’s ability to self-promote and mobilize a voting population for his selfish needs, then David Cameron is your man. I have never before been able to understand so much about an individuals’ personality on the web. His narcissitic and acerbic style literally drips off of the screen. The funny thing about this is that his field of expertise (sabermetrics) is already populated with his type of guy, so for him to stand out in a field so ripe with arrogance really is an accomplishment.
If his blog post regarding an Open Letter is any indication of his ability as an analyst, let’s hope that he does’nt quit his day job. That particular masterpiece was more like an open letter to swiss cheese. If what you strive for is a guy that uses a faulty thesis statement and backs it up with sub-standard statistics, Dave is your man. When he then uses his stat-world to advise on the field behavior, he gets so laughably out of his depth, only his 100 or so sheep at his site keep his head out of the water. I am sure that you all will be hearing multiple times from them, but he has scores of critics in the area who find him to be somewhat of a fraud.
I hate people like this
Dave’s not perfect and it’s stupid to pretend he is. But he does know what he’s talking about and he works hard on providing quality content at USSM. I can’t imagine somebody more deserving of a $10,000 scholarship based on their blog
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That's hilarious
If he only has 100 supporters, why does he have 1240 votes?
by Graham MacAree on Nov 8, 2008 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
Clearly the number of fastballs Felix throws in the first inning is a made up statistic
that has no real impact on his performance.
I was his 1500th vote
However, I am sympathetic to that persons drive. Cameron’s personality has always been a huge put-off for me, and I’ve never even posted on his site. I know there are legions of cool-headed people that agree with me.
I must ask: did anyone who voted for Dave give the other contestants a look? Sure, we all love Dave’s contributions, but it would be folly to just ASSUME he is superior to the other contestants, and we all know that once the combined forces of the Mariner’s blogosphere was mustered, the others had no chance without similar exploitation. I’m not trying to start a fight, I understand you all know and respect this man, but a 10K scholarship could literally turn some dudes life around, and it seems like highly destructive behavior to immediately honor Dave with your vote because you’re familiar with him.
Before launches a partisan attack against, I must say that I appreciate the fact that Dave has put some intellectual legitimacy behind Mariner’s related statistical analysis, and the Felix saga was pure victus.
I don't give a shit if he's a better blogger than the other contestants.
by Graham MacAree on Nov 8, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
That's highly irresponsible
There are only a few places in this world where that kind of attitude is tolerated.
It's not irresponsible. Graham and Dave are friends. I would hope my friends would show blind allegiance to me in a situation like this.
Baseball is my favorite diversion. I spend more time following it than pretty much anything else I do. Dave Cameron’s writing made me smarter, and for that I owe him gratitude. I don’t doubt that the other contestants are deserving in their own way, but they can mobilize their readership too.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 8, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 10 recs
No shit, in a totally wacko subthread. You said it, dude.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
While I stand by what I said, it kind of annoys me that this got more recs than El Jefe.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 9, 2008 1:52 AM PST up reply actions
The other argument, not that I disagree with your perspective...
is that by supporting Dave, you’re supporting his work. Do you want to encourage Dave to keep up the great baseball blogging or Snively to keep up the great MIT admissions blogging?
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
did this argument really need to be reopened?
(i’m on your side here, but still)
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Nov 9, 2008 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
Dave is a wonderful human being
And unless you’re willing to dig through the archives of every other contestant’s blog, I wouldn’t hold his personality against him.
I’m voting for Dave because USSMariner has done for me than all the other blogs in that contest put together.
Dave just got married and he was one of the biggest influences for me when it came to statistics based analysis.
He deserves the money and that’s more than enough reason for me to vote for him.
Dave was instrumental in teaching us too.
If you like LL… well, he should get a lot of the credit.
by Graham MacAree on Nov 8, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Same here.
I remember some post at USSM with Dave saying something along the lines of “If you’re not reading Lookout Landing, you’re really missing out.” So I checked it out, and it obviously stuck.
To be more specific:
One is a blogspot and doesn’t stay on any specific topic.
The other is a decent political blog, but posts few and far between.
With the time and effort that goes into USSM, Dave (and Derek) deserve much more compensation than the 2nd and 3rd place blogs. If they are so good and have so many readers, the vote should indicate it and it does (at least until Snively writes some kind of script and wins on the last day).
There are also 600 channels on tv I don't watch, and a bookstore just down the street full of books I'd love to read.
I have a finite amount of time. I know what I like. I feel not one ounce of guilt in the catastrophic consequences on other bloggers by blindly casting my vote for Dave Cameron. Life isn’t fair, suck it.
I never really got that impression with him.
He seems to always answer my questions politely and is very cool about his opinions. If anything, without getting all political, his blog most reminds me a Countdown with Keith Olbermann, compared to the other blogs/news sources. He does appear biased, but yet he also is very smart and is good about having his facts to back up his point, so its hard not to feel smarter after reading one of his articles.
If anything, I would think DMZ is the one with the big personality, but he is also very knowledgeable as well.
JI/Robert '08!
Oh I don't know.
Dave’s problem really isn’t his articles, it’s usually in the comments threads. He has a very short patience for ignorance and stupidity. Not that I blame him, mind you, I’m just saying it’s there. I myself have been on the receiving end of a Dave Cameron snark, and it’s pretty cold upon impact.
DMZ always struck me as the more laid back and humorous of the two. His book, The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball and the subsequent blog are full of whimsical stories and observations.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 9, 2008 2:49 AM PST up reply actions
Dave and DMZ are like yin and yang.
They have their problems separately, but their collective efforts are just awesome.
But speaking from personal experience, every time Dave’s gotten pissed at a commenter, it has been for pretty good reason.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 9, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
They're fine on their own
Cheater’s Guide is a fantastic book, and Dave’s musings are the best thing about Fangraphs.
by JI on Nov 9, 2008 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
IMHO...
…you haven’t lived in the blogosphere until you’ve been directly whacked by a Dave Cameron snark. How you respond to it shows a heck of a lot more about you than it does Dave…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Nov 14, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I might of have some snark from Dave.
I don’t remember it though. But I definitely remember times where I have received snark from DMZ, afterwards, I’ve learned to stay quiet unless I have something smart to post, and that everything is grammatically and spelt correctly.
I'm curious as to who these people that think Dave is a fraud are.
Holy shit, I wonder if Logan wrote that.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 8, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
I would have said this was written by Detect-O-Vision but...
not enough “amigos” in there.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 8, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm...
If you’re not one of his flock of bleating sheep then you might think twice before you vote early and often for Cameron, the scholarship worthy blogger who has blogged that Baseball Prospectus is a "cesspool influenced by a cadre that suck at living as human beings.
This is supposed to sway anyone from voting for him?
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I have voted for the guy who will be future Prime Minister.
And I didn’t check out any of the other blogs, I just blindly voted because Graham PM’ed the LL group on facebook. I hope that Dave isn’t the best blogger in the competition – just to upset that douche who posted that whine-fest even more.
If there is one thing this community is good at, it is dominating online polls.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
Or just plain domination ftw!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Nov 8, 2008 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't we learn anything from Blarch Badness??
by seattlebruin on Nov 9, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Corco will not be gaming the poll this time
He will be, however, monitoring carefully for poll gamers
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Is it possible that this is Corco's personal secretary posting on his behalf and not actually him?
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Well then you are incorrect
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American Papist?
Seriously?
Dave needs to win this thing.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I'm getting a little worried
Especially since blog traffic is highest on weekdays and it seems like USSM has pulled in most of its votes
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OK I've followed Peters for 8 minutes now
His votes aren’t rolling in on any kind of decipherable time interval
He’s legit I guess
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curiously on the 2nd and 5th minute
votes rolled in at exactly 5, 25, and 45 seconds into the minue though
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I want to see Dave win
I’m also capable of being completely obsessive about stuff and if this is how I can put that to good use that’s what I’ll do
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Done. And commented.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Baker's the man
and it’s time to rally- Dave is slipping- he has less than half the vote total again
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Yes yes yes this is one of the best comments of all time!
I rarely agree with USS Cheater’s Guide on anything, but if my vote will help another American get an education, and on the road to responsibility, I have no problem doing that. We’re going to need all the taxpayers we can get for the next 4-8 years.
Dave gets Mr. X’s vote because he’s an American!
by seattlebruin on Nov 9, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Voted
If I could figure out how to summon a legion of Mapusauruses and train them to devour Dave’s competition I would.
Alas, I can’t even get even get into the Mages Guild in Oblivion.
I was going to feel sorry for the runners-up...
Then I read that butthurt comment. Sympathy is amazingly easy to send down the garbage disposal.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 8, 2008 11:28 PM PST reply actions
I am glad to hear this.
And I know, from going to college, how hard it is to go through school and making money at the same time, so a $10,000 scholarship in any case should be a big boost. If anything I think Dave should be making at least Baker’s salary, but I guess life isn’t fair.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Nov 9, 2008 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
The comments thread in the voting page are fantastic.
Oh yes Brennon, a sports analysis blog. How droll indeed. To think that the plebeians who follow something so barbaric as sport could get $10,000 for simply writing about it is utterly preposterous.
Hey, that's my comment!
I can’t help my snarkiness sometimes, especially in regards to someone insulting a sports I like.
I monitored them for 8 minutes earlier after suspecting it
refreshing every five seconds on two different computers
I noticed no trend. Please hold as I ch eck again
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4 minutes of monitoring yields no discrepancies
vote at following intervals
Minute 1: 22, 47
Minute 2: 38
Minute 3: 6, 28
Minute 4: 14, 37
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+/- 5 second margin of error due to bandwidth
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We have to get more votes from somewhere.
PZ Myers put a link up promoting Brian Switek. His whole blog seems to be about poll crashing some days, and the people who read it follow (pun alert) religiously. We’re about to be in a world of hurt when the people start reading him at work.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Athletics Nation? DRB?
or, possibly the busiest site of all, Bluebird Banter
And what about about Field Gulls?
by seattlebruin on Nov 10, 2008 6:27 AM PST up reply actions
It got a mention in Deadspin this morning
and Dave’s vote count is north of 4000 now.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Oh good.
And it looks like it was posted on a weekend and got buried.
Now to hope that he doesn’t post midweek.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Nice.
I didn’t think that any heavy hitters would post on our side, and I know how PZ likes to poll-bomb.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I've posted it on DRB twice and it's been on BTB twice since Saturday.
Not much more I can do, but I’ll probably post once more before voting ends if things get close.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 10, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
If this ends up getting close
I can take it to a message board I frequent: theboreds.com. it’s the opposite of sports related, but it’s a a website where I have enough good standing that if I make a post about it, people will vote just cuz I tell them too. I could probably get about 50-100 votes from it? Maybe?
Is it worth it?
by mariners124m on Nov 10, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions
Uh oh's
The Orange Satan (Daily Kos) put up a link for the only progressive blogger on the list David Mauro. They get like 2 million hits a day, that could be bad. I checked when I saw it around 8:00pm on mon. 11/10 and david still had a convincing lead, but it would only take a small percentage of Kos readers to swing it.
Your favorite meme is dead
Yeah holy balls
He jumped from nothing to 1500 votes today
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Well shit.
Daily Kos spent the entire primary season encouraging their users to flood online polls.
Corco might have to dispatch his network of sub-Corcos
Not the poll gaming sub-Corcos but the other ones
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Yes
I am NOT engaging in any dirty tactics here- that’s not fair to Dave
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Dave should send an e-mail to Nate Silver and see if Nate's willing to put up a little plug for him on
BP and/or 538
BP probably won't given all the anti-BP stuff that's resurfaced with all this
but 538 would be really helpful
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Nate and Dave aren't the best of friends.
Nate’s more likely to pimp the Daily Kos pick.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Shame on Markos
USSM being a sister site to this SBN blog should have made him think differently.
Maybe we can get him to plug USSM too
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Alternatively before coming to Jeff to run the SBN blog
He could have gone to DMZ and Dave who declined saying they didn’t want to sell out to SBN and since then Kos has disliked them
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Dave has a sizable lead, but Mauro went from last to second quickly.
Let’s hope the DailyKos readers forget about that plug.
Voted.
Dave has put in so much work to USSM over the years he truly deserves this.
When does voting end? I can probably swing a few more votes his way…
Mauro is good
I’d vote for Dave if I didn’t happen to read his USSM thread comments from time to time.
Matthew, I sent StatCorner $20 a couple days ago.
That should cover at least three minutes of classtime at Penn.
Wait we got money?
This is unheard of
by Graham MacAree on Nov 14, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for all you do, Jeff
I’m gonna find a new blog to read, though.
This place has become way too Phredmojo for me to stick around.
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Damn
There’s a diary on the rec list at Daily Kos, urging people to vote for Mauro. Considering DK’s traffic, I don’t like Dave’s odds.
Jesus Christ they're flooding the poll.
I don’t know how you can combat Daily Kos traffic.
At least the diary was on the rec list
during the middle of a Saturday. Cameron’s still ahead. DailyKos freeping that poll (to use a term of theirs) could have been a lot worse.
It bothered me when they did this during primary season.
It really bothers me that they’re doing this with $10,000 at stake.
I'm going to stop here
before I find myself delving into politics.
No no no
No politics, all I’m saying is I really don’t appreciate anyone who artificially skews any online poll.
I hate people who fix computers for a living
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That just means more people here need to help out.
If you participate on other fora or message boards, post there. Do what you can.
Yeah, and also
Not everyone who reads DK is an assured Mauro fan. DK has a wide audience and not everyone among them likes the same people. So don’t think Dave’s chance are DOA because everyone on DK is going to help Mauro not. Not necessarily so.
While treading the ZOMG no politics line
I’ll admit I starting reading DK during this last election cycle. I usually like that website, now it’s weird because it’s suddenly the enemy. I know my loyalties
by mariners124m on Nov 15, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
it has been interesting ...
to see the same sort of voice moving from blog to blog (or thread to thead on a blog) complaining about Dave and his cruel suppression of dissenters. I see that the DailyKos complaintant arc14 signed up on KOS just to lodge his nay vote.
It's time to get Dave a fucking scholarship
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I've got an idea
I can’t tell you what it is but I can tell you it is completely legal and ethical
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never mind, it's not actually legal or ethical
But I will not sleep until Dave Cameron is back in the lead legally and ethically
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I need a list of Daily Kos's most hated blogs
If we can get people who hate Daily Kos to vote against David Mauro and for David Cameron, that would be good
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Actually this is stupid
There has to be a better way that keeps USSM classy
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Now that you've finished
Washingtonhighways.org, maybe a next venture would be to catalog every publicly available wi-fi hotzone and submit a vote for Dave from each one?
Is Free Republic still around? Little Green Footballs? Michelle Malkin?
I love DailyKos, but I’m completely willing to subvert in order to help Dave Cameron.
Try HotAir, too.
Damn, I’m way more current on conservative blogs in Canada (given that I work for the vast right-wing conspiracy).
Any blog that talks about FreedomFest is probably opposed to everything DailyKos does.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I've voted from my own computer
And from several computers in my school’s computer labs.
Also, any chance we could still get a plug from Nate Silver?
by mariners124m on Nov 15, 2008 10:50 PM PST reply actions
Unfortunately there's just no way to stop Daily Kos when their readers get some sort of a mandate.
They make us LL regulars look like radical free-thinkers.
Yes! There is
And Dave Cameron is still going to win this thing.
Have faith
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Sadly, you remind me of the folks I knew who kept saying that The Other Guy was somehow going to win the election.
This observation has nothing to do with political valences, and everything to do with the natural human inclination to find hope in even the unlikeliest of circumstances.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
But their template is very similar to LL 1.0
I miss that
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Corco's Plan C involves those with less than 100 votes suddenly having a lot more than 100 votes
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Plans A and B are much more ethical however
I just need to figure out what they are
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If we don't get invited back this year I'm going to be pissed
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For what it's worth I think this is the most national attention any $10,000 scholarship has ever received
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If every single person who voted for Dave just gave him a dollar we'd almost have a $10,000 scholarship for him out of that money
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Dave has Fangraphs and Baseball Prospectus Connections.
Any chance those can be tapped?
...and now I'm here
My readership's rocketing into the high single digits so it ain't much to brag about
but I just plugged this over on my site. Every little bit helps.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
If nice guys finish 3rd...
Dave should get first or second =).
...and now I'm here
If I'm not mistaken the 2nd place winner does get a sizable prize
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We need to get the Citizen Orange blogger (also a Kos participant) to plug himself on Kos too
If the remaining Kos votes get split between him and Mauro then Dave could come back and rally
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How about
Corco game’s the poll so mauro wins, in a very obvious way
This way, they will think Mauro is the cheater, and either two things will happen
1. They DQ him, and give it to second place Dave
2. They cancel/start fresh on the poll
As far as option two goes, if we can’t win, why should anyone!
by mariners124m on Nov 16, 2008 7:46 PM PST reply actions
(I've been considering this all day and may yet do it)
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Did that work the LAST time you tried to Freep an online poll?
There are a number of reasons this is a very dumb idea, aside from the “let’s not stoop to someone else’s level” one.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not doing anything illegal or immoral or unethical
Without the express written permission of Dave Cameron. As soon as he authorizes it I’ll do it, but he’s not going to do that. Don’t worry.
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The BOR people keep spamming Kos every hour or so with a new
diary, it seems.
Here’s the newest one:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/16/213448/40/11/662066
They don't seem to be doing anything at this point though
Dave’s consistently been ~750 behind all day now
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Spamming Kos with diaries qualifies as receiving “grassroots help”?
Yes he does
Just hold your head up high and hope for the best
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Daily Kos is an unstoppable force as far as online polls go.
Dave really is screwed.
But if Mauro is overly unstoppable
or if we can split his remaining votes with Citizen Orange, also a progressive Kos participant who chose not to participate in active campaigning on principle, or some other nice tricks
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Our best bet is to mass write the authors of the scholarship explaining how stupid this has become
and hope they cancel the poll and use more reasonable means of judgment
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I think the scholarship should be determined by the number and quality of well thought-out e-mails they get
explaining why [Insert blogger here] deserves to win the $10,000.
Eh I can dream.
They should make it a lot harder to vote
If everyone who voted had to sign up for an account to vote then only people who really cared would vote
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That'd be nice if we somehow mobilized some conservative blogs/sites
against Kos, and had them vote for Dave. Probably impossible though.
And it would be stooping to Mauro's level.
Most, no, the vast majority of the people voting for Mauro have no idea who he is. Almost all of Dave’s votes however most likely come from people who are familiar with Dave’s great work at ussmariner (along with DMZ, of course).
Man, again, I love DK
But this is retarded. Like redwolf said, spamming isn’t grassroots. Voting in an online poll hardly counts as grassroots. If DK readers want to feel like they’re being all subversive and “grassroots”, this isn’t the way to do it.
Nice post on Kos, but you can't talk reason with those people.
And now you’re getting flamed…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/16/213448/40/11/662066
Mob mentality
I made one last post in the thread, but that’s it. Some people can’t be reasoned with.
This one is priceless
And she’s referencing this endorsement of Dave: http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=2984
Well, I must say that I am rather ticked off, especially at the description of Daily Kos by the above referenced hockey blogger…really..I doubt I will ever watch another hockey game..
This is not a communist political blog..and I resent the McCarthyist nasty ugly comment by this supporter of David Cameron. Really, if Cameron thinks he is worthy of this scholarship, the blogger referenced above must apologize to the entire Daily Kos community…
This person by the way is the one who’s been spamming the Kos with Mauro diaries.
Ok, I am officially DONE quoting and linking Kos content.
That's a hilariously awesome endorsement, by the way
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And the funny thing is that Mauro's lackey, "RubyGirl," is
citing it as an example that Dave is apparently getting other people to “push” votes for him. Notwithstanding the fact that Dave has most likely never even heard of this hockey website, I doubt he got more than 5 votes from the endorsement, considering the low site traffic.
It’s annoying to think Dave is losing this competition due in no small part to the efforts of this person.
Those people have no sense of humour.
Disappointing, that.
Yeah, that's a bit mindblowing
I hope it doesn’t cause Dave Cameron any problems with this. He has no idea who I am, I’m just a baseball fan (on the side) who likes his writing. I’d like to think I could kick more than five votes his way though. I’ve been name dropped by Ron MacLean on HNiC, damn it.
The best part it is, it was sort of tongue in cheek AND (to the extent that his Canadian support mattered) I was an Obama guy. Her response to it indicates virtually everything that’s wrong with politics though and people who take it seriously.
(He’s the host of HNiC, you damned heathens.)
(It means Hockey Night in Canada.)
I can always go on Daily Kos and do the same thing.
It’s not like there is a law against using the same tactic.
...and now I'm here
In the words of "Kossacks"
way..it feels like a race between progressive blogging and baseball..I want progressive blogging to win, because in this day and age, we are going to need more of what David Mauro does rather than what Cameron does..
blogger beat nearly 200,000 Kossacks?
Jeez. You know THOSE guys really are in their mom’s basements wearing pajamas and eating Cheetos.
Person; Who is David Cameron?
Person who is spamming Mauro diaries:
I don’t know, but he is from North Carolina…
He’s from North Carolina! It means Dave is a redneck neonazi!
Honestly, I want to get Cameron…I don’t have anything against him..it is just that sports blogging is way too bourgeois for this day and age..you should get that scholarship..
Bourgeoisie? Are you kidding me?
In response to an extremely lucid post from a supporter of Dave:
Actually, this is a Seattle supporter of David Cameron..sports is big in Seattle, there is no doubt about that..but this is ridiculous..someone on last night’s diary said that David Cameron’s minions would be coming out to intimidate us..but if this is the best they can do..well pffff..
well, the first cheetos comment was a joke
because the commenter realized that was the stereotype ….
For such a liberal website, how are they not willing to accept a liberal sports analysis blog?
(not in terms of politics, but in terms of thinking)
Seems rather hypocritical.
Polls tied to contests bring out the worst in the internet
Mauro will win. He doesn’t deserve it. It doesn’t matter.
Maybe he was trying to say that LL rules his life and is his boss
and he hates all of us
Markos is one of the people in charge of SBN
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 16, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Barely.
I recall a blog entry recently where he mentioned taking himself out of the loop, except for being on the board. Politics and dKos is really his true love in the online world.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
They are up to about 21 diaries and stories now on Kos
I’m still trying to figure out how Dave is perceived as self-promoting (aside from his self-deprecating headline) for asking for help on his own site, and Mauro, who has put up several diaries and solicited more, is not ….
oh. for petesake.
“wow…amazing, because the baseball blogger had already launched a campaign with other sports bloggers includint the Seattle Times and our effort here has been rather modest..I am amazed that we are moving ahead like this..it is a tribute to the fairness of Daily Kos.”
It is one thing to go around and promote on other sites, it is another to constantly spam on a high traffic site.
And I can’t believe this Rubygal thinks needing more politicians in this world is more important than someone like Dave who is actually making a difference in educating his readers.
RubyGal is the reason politics aren't allowed on LL
99% of the time, politics make people retarded.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
How is this different than sports?
(points to Halos Heaven)
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I'm as pissed off as everyone else that Dave's not going to make this
But there is nothing (nothing!) wrong with what Mauro’s supporters are doing. It’s an online poll, and gaming them is what happens. We’d do exactly the same thing, I suspect.
All this shows is that polls are stupid.
I think it is the attitude that they are the little engine that could
and that they are helping a modest young man (you know, the one who actively campaigned on their site, asking to smurf the poll) vs that evil yet irrelevent sports guy who is getting the blogosphere to gang up on them and their choice of winner.
Yes, their attitude is entirely bullshit
But polls enable these morons, soooo…
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Polls mean democracy works! Sports is bourgeois!
Clicking a button is affirming my belief in democracy!
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I completely agree.
However, I am going to mobilize some rather large forces in hopes of helping Dave.
Y'know...
and tell me with a straight face that what they want you to do is to be the baseball blogger version of Daily Kos.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
I don't see anything wrong with what Sec 108 is doing
Dave is better than Mauro already even based on those comments. Dave didn’t ask for large forces he doesn’t know to be mobilized, Mauro actively sought out people who don’t know his work at all.
Sec 108 mobilizing large forces is OK, Dave doing it is not. Mauro doing it is not.
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That's how I interpret Dave's comments anyway
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Er...
The BOR blogger in question part of the bigger dKos community, so it’s not like he was talking to a bunch of strangers. Granted, people have taken this too far- but I don’t think the response should be “let’s smurf a poll because other people are doing it”.
One of the things Dave pointed pout with pride in that thread is that his votes were from USSM and people familiar with his work. If someone thinks trashing that is worth $10,000 to him, someone might at least do the courtesy of ASKING him if that’s what he wants first. I tend to think not.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I am not doing what Dave and DMZ want me to do.
Sorry, but just because I respect someone’s work does not mean they get to tell me how to live my life.
I have my own reasons for wanting Dave to get that scholarship. What I have done and will do is in no way illegal or even similar to what may be happening at Daily Kos.
Ok, I invoked Croatia. Hopefully that will make a difference.
Also started a campaign through myspace. Though that’s only good for a 100 or so…
Oh, and...
Check out what the OTHER dKos blogger had to say about his nomination:
I guess this is when I’m supposed to mobilize everyone I know to vote for me, or I could just use the tricks that the nativist folks at ALIPAC are fond of which allow you to vote multiple times in polls like these. That’s just not me though.Don’t get me wrong. I’m grateful for being selected as a finalist. Also, the $10,000 would be extremely helpful to me, especially at this time. I just don’t feel that it’s right to mobilize whatever online power I’ve accumulated over the past years to win $10,000.
I blog for migrants, and by extension for a world where everyone truly is born with the same opportunities. I am grateful for whatever support I receive in that quest, but it just doesn’t feel right to advertise myself over the online connections I’ve forged for other purposes.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 11:01 AM PST reply actions
I guess I should weigh in
First off, thanks to everyone for voting. It’s been a lot of fun to watch the unprompted support from a huge number of people.
Secondly, please don’t game the poll.
Finally, this has unfortunately ceased to be an enjoyable process for me. It was definitely an honor to be nominated, and I was amazed by the amount of people who put up supportive posts on their sites without me asking. Despite what the folks at Daily Kos will tell you, I haven’t asked a single person to put a post on their stie about this contest. I didn’t notify any of the “big sites” (Seattle Times, ESPN, Deadspin, THT, Primer, etc…) that have put up posts about this. I’m proud of that. I like the fact that I’ve got 9,000 votes from people who voted for me because they read about it on my blog, or because someone else decided it was a worthy cause on their own. I’m happy that I haven’t chased down a bunch of strangers and enlisted them to vote for me because I’m “one of them”. I have no interest in doing such a thing.
In reality, I just want this thing to end. It would have been nice to win, but the process just isn’t fun. I’ve gotten pretty good at shaking off people spreading lies about me over the years, but having so many people make stuff up and pass it around as truth has been tough to ignore. I’m ready for it to be Friday already .
If you guys have enjoyed my writing enough to feel motivated to try to get me some more votes, feel free. But don’t feel any obligation, and don’t stoop to DK levels of multiple voting/lying about others. If David Mauro is okay winning that way, that’s fine. I’m not.
by davidcameron on Nov 17, 2008 11:57 AM PST reply actions 16 recs
Sorry to see how things went down, Dave.
You’ve been quite honorable through the whole thing. As stupid as the idea of holding a poll is, you had good reason to get your hopes up because you have a big (and actually legitimate) following, and you have every right to be frustrated by how you ended up falling behind.
At least you know that most of the people who voted for you actually read your stuff.
frustrating, too
because between the gal who keeps popping diaries up at dKos without actually reading any of the competition (as well as blindly accepting anything she is told about both them, and Dave) and entries from arc14 (who sounds as though he has never recovered from being moderated on USSM) there is a lot of misinformation that might keep dKos folks form actually looking at, and enjoying USSM.
I don't think there's a blog in the world quite like USSM.
You deserve the scholarship.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Dave is closing the gap
He’s gone from -750 votes to -250 votes
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actually is somebody gaming?
He’s getting votes at an alarming rate
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Too fast! Too fast!
The problem any vote drive faces at this point is that actions that get Dave past the other Dave could provoke a front page Kos mention and thus drive another ~9,000 votes towards other Dave.
If someone was gaming this and wanted to be smart, they’d be looking at sniping.
That's what I expected
But Dave got about 15 votes in 30 seconds a couple minutes ago
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Do I detect schenanigans?
Derek… I’m so proud.
Dave can have his principles. I want blood.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
So yeah, just keep that in mind if you’re hiring a bot network or commissioning traffic off the digital point forum service board or something. Because the Kos people already got all the proxies early (it’s on one of the earlier diaries).
Clearly, that's supposed to be a reply to "too fast! too fast!" comments
… and not at all taken seriously
I noticed that when I was attempting to rig up some sort of alternate plan yesterday
But I’ve got an idea should all fail and I get necessary authorization (or unspoken authorization)
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The house of Mauro appears to have awoken
Dave within 67
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55 votes
Mauro is still asleep
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42 votes
I’m almost looking forward to the Kossack reaction once they realize. It’s probably better to just lay low for a few days like DMZ suggested
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I'd like to take this moment to thank Matthew for being the quick-trigger guy he is.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
What does Matthew have to do with anything
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2008 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Remember what I said earlier (on a post no longer around) about drinking right after getting home from work?
Yeah, so I confused you to.
The funny thing is…even as I wrote the post, I was saying to myself “FUCK, was it Matthew or Graham? Jesus why do their names have nearly the same amount of characters in them?”
Folks, alcohol is a hell of a drug.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
As for gaming, I would really only consider IP spoofing to be truly foul "gaming"
As for getting everyone you know and care about to vote? Well they wouldn’t have made this an internet poll if that weren’t priced into the darn contest.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
and OMG IF YOU GO TO EVERY PROXY SERVER ON THE INTERNET
the vote was for… DAVID MAURO!
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Not true
I voted using two proxies before DK even got involved
(Sorry)
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
15 votes
I’m bummed I’m probably going to be away from the computer when Dave wins
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If this was a Rays-Sox gamethread and you had posted something like this about the game
You’d have been boxed in a fucking heartbeat.
Don’t get cocky kid. Still two days left.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I used the wrong word there
That was stupid
I meant when Dave passes Mauro
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I know this is unhealthy and irrational, but...
…whoever “RubyGal” is, I’ve suddenly developed an intense disgust for her.
But then the internet does that to people.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
To reiterate: it's not her politics that irk me
It’s her imperviousness to logic. Look at the calm, sane counterarguments being offered in those various threads. (“Hey, stop smearing Dave Cameron, he hasn’t gotten down in the gutter about this at all!”) And then look at her stone-faced “nothing penetrates my consciousness” brush-off responses.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I would love, LOVE
The beautiful thing about formal logic is that it's brutally non-partisan.
Used properly, it utterly decimates bullshit arguments on the left, right, center, and all points elsewhere. A man with an understanding of inductive and deductive logic can usually destroy all comers when it comes to reasoned debate.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
She's a goddamn idiot
and set Dave up perfectly to take the high road
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Nobody say anything
Just… keep doing what you’re doing.
So how bout them Yankees?
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Hell of a deal they got for Swisher there.
I’m doing my part. Quietly and honestly.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Uh. Submitted without comment, from the vote page.
USSM and Lookout Landing are the two best baseball blogs on the internet, hands down. Even with that no-good rebel Graham, and his uncontrollable angry Slant-Rants. He belongs on a womens golf blog.
By The_Marinator on November 16th, 2008
by BrianL on Nov 17, 2008 4:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I saw that a bit ago.
He’s a strange person.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
This guy called me a fag for drinking beer with a French name.
He’s not worthy of sympathy.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Well let's be fair here.
Graham is sort of a femme, after all. I mean, the accent is a dead giveaway right?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm not even entirely sure what it means
But I know it’s awesome, whatever it is.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
You have the first-class seat right next to me
You’re the one who pointed it out, after all, my friend.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
But he did vote for Dave C. So give him that.
Wonder what that ASUBoyd guy did….
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I wish we could unban him for a few hours to make fun of his family that died in 9/11
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's almost not-funny
Since I had close friends that died in 9/11 too.
But…given the context and background (I know the story), I still deem this to be outrageously, tastelessly funny.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is hands down the funniest thing I have ever read.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck that. Shout it out!
A day ago I thought this thing was in the bag for Mauro. This has me revitalized. Back to Facebook!
This thing is FAR from won
I don’t think the winner will be decided until late on the 19th
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Nothing to do with partisanship on either side.
Just a carnival-zoo of an vote-counting, is all.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Yeah I know
I just don’t get to say it very often
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http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/11/7/656375/take-5-seconds-and-help-da#10094684
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Oh please, oh please, oh please
Make it happen. Make this happen.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
but don't do it under any name that could be traced back to LL
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Please Jeff
Make my life
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He's sees me when I'm sleeping
He knows when I’m awake
He knows if I’ve been bad or good.
So be good for goodness sake.
by Robert on Nov 17, 2008 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Lookout Landing is a right-wing blog!
Congratulations. I expect your traffic numbers to jump dramatically
One last bit of news, some of Cameron’s supporters (not Dave) have enlisted the aid of right-wing blogs to inflate his totals. Looking (out-Landing) at your links, you probobly know of the plan already, Engelwood.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I’m so sorry this has been miserable for Dave, but goddamn this is so amusing.
I just feel shitty for everyone involved.
I read Mauro’s blog, and I liked it. I want Dave to win, but it sucks that this has turned into such a ridiculous flamewar between two camps that have absolutely no reason to dislike each other.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's so hilariously fucked up
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Somebody probably should tell her that this is a KOS supported site
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Aren't you the part of Dave's brain that he willfully tries to suppress?
What’s holding you back!? ATTACK!
This is a very good point.
It should be in Jeff’s irresistable nature to take the low road for these very reasons.
After all, what is Lookout Landing if not USS Mariner’s horrifying Freudian id?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
For the sake of LL's future I beseech you to take the high road.
let the rest of us do the mucking around in the cesspool.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Worse case scenario is Jeff loses his Kos affiliation
We can subsidize his fat ass if necessary
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She's just not worth it.
I can safely say that given the circles I run in, the town I grew up in and the college I attended that I have met several hundred RubyGal analogues. She’s an idiot that has her mind made up about something and is incapable of listening to reasonable arguments against her position. Flaming her will do nothing but piss of the more annoying elements of Kos. It’s not worth it and could prove to be counterproductive.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The humor involved would be worth it.
This contest is going to be a crapshoot until Friday so if Jeff wants to go have fun on Kos he should
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I will need you to repeat this every 20-30 minutes please
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
If you can’t slander anonymously on the internet
where can you do it?
Do it. No one will ever know.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Please Jeff
People like me need to not do it to because I’ll just make it worse. But you can make it hilarious. You’re our only hope
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The fact that Corco is encouraging you to do this is all the proof that this is a bad idea you should need.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
How about me? I usually make sound decisions and I want Jeff to do it.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm not going to flame her
I can’t even think of what I’d write. All I can come up with is a comment subject of “Listen, funbags”.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
Already it's gold.
Why is it that my girlfriend goes instantly cold-fish on my when I used the term “funbags?” I think it’s a perfectly respectable word.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I recommend "dirty dyke"
and other lesbian slurs. Bonus points for plausibly mentioning in passing how she lieks to gets abortions.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't she a liberal?
Her sig says Obama 08.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Umm...you do realize the site we're talking about is the DAILY FUCKING KOS, right?
Therefore your question is hilariously clueless.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
There isn't a chance on the planet you would catch my film reference there.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
For the record, it's a riff on the classic Jack Nicholson film "Chinatown"
Directed by Roman Polanski, who I’m certain you’ve never heard of either.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I do, in fact. He directed the new Oliver Twist.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
aren't you a barrel of love
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If you can't slander anonymously on the internet
where can you do it?
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
JeffS has a full head of long golden locks
a goatee, and roots for Anaheim.
He’s a dick
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Would Bizarro Jeff have shitty grammar and constantly write about Ballgame's clutchiness?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
According to Fangraphs Willie has a higher career Clutch score than Beltre
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
ZOMG NEW-AGE METRICS QUANTIFY THE EXACT RATIO OF BLOOMQUIST'S HUSTLE
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Crap, I have totally missed said joke, whatever it was.
Must’ve missed a day here.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I have to wonder what the administrators of the survey are thinking right now
I also wonder what the vote numbers were like in previous years
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One day when I'm rich I'll buy you guys 5 servers
in exchange for being unbanned
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You're welcome to leech off of our right-wing corporate servers if you can figure out how
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
You can edit posts at USSM now?
What have I missed?!
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It's too bad they don't have more ads
They might have been able to pay for the whole scholarship in ad revenue
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New Kos diary
that took long enough
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I don't think that's true
I’ve received email from people @ USSM that says “hey, I can’t vote from work, it just shows the results” — I think they’re doing 1 IP, 1 vote, even if it’s a corporate proxy or whatever.
I was only able to get two votes off at the whole University
one from the wireless network and one from the wired- all the lab computers returned that it had already been voted for
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Sorry, should have clarified that quote.
That was from a random commenter.
I thought it was funny as it was completely wrong.
Is this actually true, or is this just another running joke that I'm missing out on?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Did the vote count go up, though?
They make take the vote and not count it.
When I switched browsers
There was no option to vote
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Not a joke
I came across it in one of the early, pretty… frenzied? Kos threads, someone posted a joking “sure hope nobody does this…” suggestion (with URL) for proxy use. I checked it out and lo and behold, the page was already “vote results”.
Corco seems to have had the same experience checking different ones.
What kind of unholy war would be unleashed
if you banned DMZ from here…?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm...a LL/USSM flamewar
If I wasn’t personally invested in both sites, and could approach it from the perspective of, say, an Angels fan…that would be the most wonderful thing ever.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
RE: Why would I ban DMZ?
The lulz baby. The lulz.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Now apparently Dave is enlisting the support of right wing blogs
to his cause. They’re “going to make diaries this.”
This is the troll who brought it up
RubyGirl then proceeded to say she’d make diaries about it. It’s buried in there somewhere.
404 sir.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
That troll was the guy who was in the actual voting page thread (under the name "Happy Camper") pissing all over Cameron too
There’s obviously some strange personal crusade going on there.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I wondered if it was AKwhatever
who used to pop up on the Times blog to rail about the inequities of USSM
unless I mis-read it, following his name link
arc14 also signed up just to slam Dave, much like those who joined to praise him
I didn't have the strength to register a few days ago
and now I’d just be accused of signing up just to disrupt them …. but I have so wanted to ask just how Dave asking for votes on his own site equates to Mauro emailing KOS personally, then putting up a diary asking them to smurf the poll, and then he and the acolyte(s) putting up (at last count) 24 diaries asking for votes.
of course, Ruby (who is from Seattle, sadly) would blow right past the question (and assume that I was an Evil Sexist Male Troll while doing it) and once again accuse Dave of inciting his readers across the blogosphere
The thing that bothers me most about that
is that I posted a FanShot at Beyond the Boxscore quite literally seconds after I read Dave’s USSM post. No one asked me to do it, no one asked Sky to bump it to the front page, no one asked RJ to post it at DRB, and no one asked anyone else to do anything, other than vote. RubyGal just doesn’t seem willing to accept that.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
"really? a sports analysis blog? how utterly useless."
Sigh.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 6:43 PM PST reply actions
Really? A 13 year old posting on a sports analysis blog? How utterly useless.
Sigh.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
-1. How many times do I have to say this?
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
You're being more immature than me right now. And that's saying something.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
And so obviously bannable that for the fourth time I return to my thesis: Taylor is actually a brilliantly crafted flame.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Does every comment you make have to do with how annoying I am?
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
No. Ironically enough I actually remember thinking to myself, earlier on in the thread...
…“huh, Taylor’s not doing so bad here. Maybe he’s growing up.”
And then it all went downhill.
Look, I’ll be your biggest supporter when and if you ever get your shit together. I was the same way with Coach. But until then, expect a merciless flaying. Consider it tough love, my friend.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
That is very fair. Sorry for being rude to you.
I kind of disobeyed the 30 second rule this thread.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously though we said we wanted him to have a chance to fit in
and he didn’t make a new userID (which is fine) but still you don’t have to take a perfectly fine post from the kid and bait him into doing something stupid. The point isn’t whether or not he should know better than to take the bait, it’s that you should know better not to bait him.
OK I just read what was below this
Goddamn you Taylor H
So which of you fuckers is Englewood?
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I would have sworn it was BrianL until he posted above indicating otherwise.
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If I decided to go flame over there I would totally lie about it.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
I would too...but he's not really flaming, is he?
Now if he busts out with a “hey funbags!” we’ll know it was Jeff all along.
Or maybe JeffS.
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What the fuck is PLU Tim doing?
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oh never mind
He’s a Kos regular
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At the bottom of the new diary
He’s OK though, he’s a highly active Kos participant
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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/17/18316/406/649/662445
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well, the nice thread with no mention of 'the competition' is no longer that way
" Thank you for posting this diary..we need to get (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by:
ypsiCPA
busy..the Cameron minions who have come to Daily Kos within the last week have been freeping the right wing blogs to push David Cameron’s numbers up..nothing wrong with baseball bloggers..but our guy is a progressive blogger..
The right wingers are posting some nasty stuff..I think we need to really put this in perspective. Do we want right wingers to do this to our guy?? or do we work to get our guy back in first place.??
I say … let’s get our guy back into first place..
Obama ’08
by RubyGal on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 06:47:57 PM PST"
I feel like we're starting to pointlessly obsess over this
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I just feel a whole lot of disgust for rubygal over this
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Yeah, this is just some good fun with LL friends, right here.
On the other hand, there are real stakes, so I want to see Dave C. win.
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Ladies and gentlemen, witness a certain type of mind in action:
We are no longer mere supporters of Cameron…no, we are now right-wingers. Right-wingers! Why? Because people are eloquently and remarkably politely defending Cameron from slanders…all while praising Mauro and saying he’s a fine blogger and a deserving candidate too!
But some people need to have easily-defined enemies, I guess. Right wing death beasts, liberal moonbats, godless heathens, oppressive fundamentalists, whatever…ultimately the labels say a heck of a lot more about the person using them than about who they’re directed at.
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no, it's because he enlisted the right-wingers
and obviously no self-respecting liberal would come onto dKos to support the non-progressive blogger.
I fear that if Rubygal were not a dem, she’d have been one of those ready to believe every lie spread about the President Elect
Oh man, I've seen this on both sides of the aisle.
It’s absolutely not unique to one type of leaning or another. Honestly, I think it has far more to do, for any given person, with which party holds (or is perceived to wield) power at the time.
I believe it’s known as Jane’s Law: “The devotees of the party in power are smug and arrogant. The devotees of the party out of power are insane.”
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that's the liberal media conspiracy at work
always convincing you to vote against your core values.
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First Cameron wins
then the next thing you know horses are marrying gay babies.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Much better that flaming RubyGal.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
sign up to rec the diary
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Working email (check for typos):
How condescending
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
I won't. It's not a site I belong on in any way ideologically so I would consider it bad sport to muck around over there.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
And props to PLUTim - a Kos man in long and good standing - for standing up for David C.
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We're going to be behind again within about 1.25 hours at current rates
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Corco has a SYSTEM. He crunches the DATA
And according to the calculations done on his machines, the answer is…LOVE? YOU STUPID USELESS MACHINES.
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I love how they use the term "get through college" so loosely.
Are they doing his homework and taking tests for him? It’s money! He can go get a loan if he needs to! This is about being compensated for the time and effort going into a blog. David Mauro comes up well short of DC. And I am sure DC could use the money more than DM because he doesn’t have the parental option (not that DC’s parents are dead or anything, just that he is a grown man with his own family).
Seriously, what's her deal?
She’s a little wobbly over this. What could possibly drive this kind of angst?
She's an idiot because she's female?
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Honestly would anybody with brains choose to be female.
by Robert on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Being female is not a choice unless you have some surgery that makes you look kinda goofy.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
It's time like these when the lack of an edit function for posts on LL is felt most acutely.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
We need to put together a collection of links that show LL at its finest
A LL roofie colada if you may.
QUICK LET'S ALL GET RACIST USERNAMES
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According to comments on Baker's blog
my username is already racist.
You're promoting the gospel
Therefore you are anti-Jew
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
What, are you calling Christianity a slut now?
You damn liberal! Get off our regressive blog!
Your just a fucking NeoKKKon that will murder in Jesus' name
I-R-O-N-Y
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
I figure, but still,
I don’t want to wade too far into religious parody. It will come across poorly to too many people.
That was my hope
We share different goals.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
How Minnesotan of you...
…that’s the only region where I’ve heard that phrase.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I am one of the least misogynistic people you will ever meet.
I like you so I am going to assume you’re joking.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure if PLU Tim's comment in Jeff's diary is a good thing or a bad thing
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I'd say bad.
I tend to agree with him but he gets too attacky with his arguments.
by Mariner John on Nov 18, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
I have to tip my cap to Jeff...this is by far the best possible way to have done this.
It makes my much more vulgar ideas look clumsy in comparison.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
How long until Jeff's diary is troll-rated into oblivion?
I say an hour or less.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Not if you REGISTER and help rec it up
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This could not have happened at a better time
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and DMZ is happy to see a server crash
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You know, whenever DMZ or Dave do the [off-topic] censoring, it just makes me crazy curious to see what it was they covered up.
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Jeff's diary only has a few responses, but already several are gold.
In response to PLUTim playfully outing him:
My co-author Matthew Carruth wrote that entry (0+ / 0-)
I am pulling for Kyle, one of our fellow progressives. I implore all of you to contribute to the cause.
by Jeff Sullivan on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 07:12:16 PM PST
And even better, from the “missing the point” brigade…
Kyle de Beausset is the only progressive blogger in this contest.
Right. And Burnt Orange Report is a regular Powerline, huh?
by cardinal on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 07:13:51 PM PST
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I love how Jeff's jokes go right over their heads
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I'm starting to hate kathleen518 too
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No wonder so many liberals are gay
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
No one has fewer abortions than gay people.
Grow a brain you faggot.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
It's amazing how quickly parody-flame trips over into being indistinguishable from genuine trogolodyticism
But then again I always was a pansy.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
If this were any other thread I would ban myself
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
We're walking on a wire...we're walking on a wire...
…and we’re faaaaaaallling.
[/Richard & Linda Thompson]
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It is the thread of my dreams
I’m going to Facebook NOW!
What a dumb fucking bitch
She ignored your comment, Jeff
at any rate, we now know for sure that kos and sports blog nation are not related.
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She has to be being a complete idiot on purpose
There is no way any human is that stupid
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"There is no way any human is that stupid"
With the evidence of Taylor H right before our very eyes, how can you make this claim?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
if only GPA mattered in the real world.
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Is it more likely that you have a 4.0 in AP classes
or that you are exaggerating?
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Well, I have 7 A's in all of my classes, including Calc and Fifth-year French (doesn't count because I'm French)
Would I really lie about school on the internet? Rest assured, I’m not that bad.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
I know your kind well
and yes, you would
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Lying about school on the internet is preferable to bragging about it.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
nobody cares about your school transcripts
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Exactly. They don't really cancel out a track record of posting fixed firmly in LL legend.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
He'll get the bestest prom date EVER
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Except I actually had two prom dates
You saw the pictures
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Okay so maybe the wording wasn't entirely clear
But you know I that I meant he would pretend to be you
I love the fact that even DMZ is bagging on the kid now.
It’s unstoppable.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
A) 30 second rule
B) whoosh
C) See A
D) See B
E) See A
F) Repeat
Really? You seem so much more mature than that.
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God forbid anyone should curse on Lookout Landing
The server might implode.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Which one?
Fork?
Flabdablet?
Flit?
Feather?
Fishing?
Fleet?
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The correct punctuation is
fudge, Packer?
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't cook too well the first time I tried a recipe either
keep at it, it’ll get better.
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Your parents pay $20,000 a year for you to go to a bloody high school
and that’s all you can come back with
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... but the sex costs mon-ney
Wasn’t that a BDP song?
Your facebook says you pay $20,000 a year to go to Seattle Academy
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I went there for middle school. I go to Garfield, I've said this like 100 times.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
So you paid $20,000 a year to go to MIDDLE SCHOOL?
That’s fucking stupid
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If he would have ended it with an exclamation point I would have
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Three exclamation points would have driven you to suicide
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I listen to Taylor H because I respect him
You’re scum
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I want to think you're serious so badly.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
that's some bulletproof logic right there
you must have gone to a REALLY EXPENSIVE grade school!
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this does nothing to prove your smartitude.
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From low expectations come predictable reactions.
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Jesus, you really are Coach.
Or at least you are good friends with him.
by Mariner John on Nov 19, 2008 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, these details about my non-internet life are going to stop now.
Please?
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
That's what you get for posting said details on the internets
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Why exactly did you search my name on facebook, again?
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 17, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
You actually posted it good sir on the LL group
If you recall your last name does not start with an H so a search would have done no good
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But you're a valued part of the community!
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Dude it's on your Facebook for crissakes.
It’s publicly available knowledge. Someone feel free to post anything on my Facebook page here at any time.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/17/212036/71/589/662513
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For what it's worth I'm enjoying being registered so I can use
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uh
(n (with a bracket not a parenthetical) to look for new comments again
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One of the threads is entitled "ARE YOU JUST GOING TO LET THIS HAPPEN?"
I love the hysterical tone. It’s like they’re putting progressives into boxcars or something.
Now if you substitute “progressives” with “Red Sox fans”…I can get behind that.
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Just turn it over to Corco
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so now we know Rubygal hadn't actually read the blog she's been pimping
until KOS asked them to vote for it.
YES
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/11/17/212036/71/16#c16
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Oh wait no that guy is an idiot and the site is just down like it has been
Disregard
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Is this my favorite comment so far?
Why yes! Yes, I believe it is!
In response to PLU Tim politely pointing out that Dave C. is far from a right-wing demon:
Take your commercial shit and shove it. (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by:
kathleen518
I’m sure David’s a decent guy but this is not a blog to promote the professional sports business.
This is a progressive blog to support Democrats and progressive politics.
So take your commercial crap elsewhere.
“It’s the planet, stupid.”
by FishOutofWater on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 07:09:59 PM PST
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I love you kathleen and would love to have beautiful aborted children with you someday
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 7:43 PM PST reply actions 12 recs
I can't wait to see her response to that
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What does her response even mean?
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These people cannot possibly be real
“Because statistical analysis is ruining baseball. As an Oakland A’s fan I’ve watched moneyball in action. YAWN. Thank god they’ve moved away from it before they lose the team, now I have a reason to enjoy going to games.”
I never appreciated how awesome Lookout Landing was until reading Kos
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
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I finally know who those assholes are that spraypaint t he side of SUVs
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Jeff's response was priceless:
“ow ow ow ow ow ow”
Says it all, really.
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Oh sweet. VEILED THREATS, PEOPLE.
petty?
you have no idea what most kossacks will or won’t do.
seems you need to lurk a while longer.
by kathleen518 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 07:09:05 PM PST
Totally awesome.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
This is like a female Geoff Baker.
I fucking hate you Mariners
So we've upset Geoff and countless Daily Kos readers today.
Good work, everyone!
So we've upset Geoff and countless Daily Kos readers today.
Good work, everyone!
I miss it less than I thought I did
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and now is when I say Clockwerks, Trei, I'm sorry
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Right?? I was just sitting there waiting for the new comments box to pop up
by seattlesundevil on Nov 17, 2008 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Even though I totally should be studying for Organic Chemistry
& Biology tests tomorrow, this was totally worth it.
Howdy RubyGal!
Just so you know, everything I wrote in this thread I wrote under the influence of angel dust and klonopin. I’m not accountable.
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Bummer
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/11/17/18316/406/103#c103
No..it was some of the comments there..this is (0+ / 0-)
what was posted as Kos’s side sports work..and some of the comments are very unfriendly towards Cameron..interesting .. that is all..
Obama ’08
by RubyGal on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 07:57:34 PM PST
[ Parent ]
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apparently we hate Dave Cameron?
uh
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That's awesome
The post is way pro-Dave, the vast majority of comments are pro-Dave entirely, but somehow the take-away here is the comments which aren’t friendly.
But Dave is a Mormon who supported Prop 8!
I fucking hate you Mariners
I want to play telephone with these people
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
isn't that what we're doing right now?
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Brains are irrelevant if you can communicate from the gut
(let nobody say i learned nothing from Campaign 2008)
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I doubt that Rubygal was pointing this page out to highlight Dave's extremely classy post here
It’ll be all about the tastelessness and drug abuse.
Sort of like a VH-1 Behind The Music special about Journey
The music always gets lost. Instead it’s all about the drugs and tackiness.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I got the site to load briefly
We’re up 10569 to 10321
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Jeff I'm becoming increasingly convinced that kathleen518 is attracted to you
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We could proably find her on CL somewhere...
I fucking hate you Mariners
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES I DON’T CARE HOW LATE THIS IS
by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2008 6:30 AM PST up reply actions
Somebody post the picture of Jeff photoshopped onto Hitler's body in that thread, QUICK.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll just leave this here.
Right click → view image → full size → hilarity.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 8:05 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I like the way the picture is cropped so that the "OH, SNAP" is right near the bottom.
Makes you want to know what comes next.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I like btw
That we can see you took time from your valuable file sharing and gold farming time to bring that to us.
Do I come off as Chinese?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 18, 2008 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
I haven't a gold farmer that wasn't Chinese yet.
Omitted from that subject line is the number of gold farmers I have met.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 18, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Don't ever tell PLU Tim any secrets or make any sublte references to things you want to remain sublte.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I love
how she’s managed to twist her involvement in that subthread to one of “teacher of proper source-citing.”
YEAH ALL THOSE GODDAMN OLD PEOPLE ARE REALLY oh wait
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FUCKING KIDS TODAY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR MY LAWN
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It saddens me that a thread about USSMariner is quickly becoming one of the greatest threads in LL History
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It's Dave's work at USSMariner
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And about the relative merits of members of the dailykos community.
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I am but a vessel
kathleen is my muse
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
that brought a tear to my eye and a song to my heart.
What song? This one.
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I was thinking the same thing -- this has become a Hall of Fame AND a Hall of Merit thread.
How appropriate that we have hijacked and cannibalized the legacy of USSM.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
If we have a legacy, I had hoped I could exploit it for personal gain
but nooooooooooooooo, you guys have to ruin everything for me
like you're not gaining amusement from all this.
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too much trouble
you have to wait until they beg enough money, then get them between the time they buy the liquor and the time the bottle becomes a petri dish…
You just need to know the ways of hobokind.
The time to strike is late at night. You follow them back to the bridge they sleep under, where they keep their stash of money, and then you strike.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Next time you're in Portland drinks are on me
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People who write books about cheaters never win
Or something like that.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I was referring to you and your hopes to profit off the legacy of USSM, my friend.
And Cameron? I blame him for…erm, whatever book he writes.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Whatever you're internet married
He wrote that book just as much as you did.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Joe Morgan: "David Cameron should never have written that book."
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
yeah, it's out there all right
but us damn right wingers keep blocking it.
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I'm no right-winger, I'm a fucking SUPERSOLDIER.
[/lame late-season X-Files dork]
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Loaded again
Updated ballot count
Mauro: 10402
Cameron: 10536
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Not sure this pace/vitriol can be sustained until Friday but goddamnit it's worth trying.
Remember, Dave – we’re doing this for YOU.
you’re welcome.
And when you never want to speak to any of us again, we’ll understand.
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Sleep is for suckers
and I’m out of school at the end of this semester anyway so screw homework
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online diploma mills are so much easier.
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Taking 1 year off from college! Graduating with a good 4 year degree in 3 more semesters!
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I got a girl's number who went to Mount Holyoke once
When I called it she didn’t pick up
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you should hack your phone so the caller ID reads Hootie McBoob.
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by pdb on Nov 17, 2008 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
could someone invite Ruby to come back for a visit?
Ruby—
1. not everyone who has posted on the baseball sites and dKos is male and/or conservative. This is Seattle, after all.
2. if you read the comments here, you can see that the entire thread is full of black humor and dry jokes, including those about Dave Cameron, and about inciting “right-wing websites” to vote.
3. half-way down this page is a big blue comment by Dave Cameron, which will explain more about him than any snide remarks made by arc14, who signed up with dKos just to write hatefully about Dave C., and who himself admitted in one of your diaries that he does not actually know Dave, but just does not like his website.
you're making a very large assumption in #2
that there’s a sense of humor there.
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I'm as serious as AIDS about this stuff
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
what can I say.
I’m one of those bleeding heart liberals who just wants to open a dialogue. you know, a Seattelite?
if you were a true Seattleite this discussion would run for seven years and never come to a cogent conclusion.
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People start dying of boredom eventually
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I registered there
It says I have to wait a week to make a diary, and 24 hours to comment
How was it Jeff is able to make a diary so quick? I was under the impression he signed up just to make his epic post
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:17 PM PST reply actions
Apparently I've been registered for like four years
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
You apathetic liberal.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I'd guess he registered when he found out he was getting LL
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Or he's a baby killing hippie liberal socialist
I feel like, even joking like we are, any other thread this stuff would get us banned
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
But kos and sb nation aren't related! I read it on a blog that they aren't.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Show me where kos isn't the founder of
sports blog nation.
please
show me.
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
I READ IT SOMEWHERE ON THE INTERNET SO I'M NOW GOING TO PARROT IT AS IF IT WERE TRUE
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Do. Not. Want. To.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Sing me no song, read me no rhyme
Don’t waste my time, show me
Don’t talk of June, don’t talk of fall
Don’t talk at all, show me
Never do I ever want to hear another word
There isn’t one I haven’t heard
Here we are together in what ought to be a dream
Say one more word and I’ll scream
Haven’t your arms hungered for mine
Please don’t explain, show me, show me
Don’t wait until wrinkles and lines
Pop out all over my brow
Show me now
Voting site now pulls a 403 Forbidden for me
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but only the voting page
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the server is back up on the greater site
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Somebody finally realized the server was crashing because of the poll
They pulled the page from outside traffic, and now here we go
I’m going to guess the poll as we know it is going to go away
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Good I think
Good since Dave was winning when it crashed
Bad if they disqualify the Daves for crashing their server
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I sense that's where this might be heading
in which case there’s an argument to be made that we owe Mr. Cameron $10,000.
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I think this blogosphere could muster that up pretty easily
and I think we should do it if it comes down to it
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I am fully prepared to shoot him some money if this doesn't pan out
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
The genius part is that it'll be money people already donated to me
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to give fresh money
yours is probably all dirty and messy by now.
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Remember when we had to essentially force you at gunpoint to set up a tipjar?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Somebody accidentally spilled it into my bank account the other day
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Can I have my mutliple $.01 donations back?
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I'm just going to wait and buy him a... water or something when he next comes up.
PayPal makes enough off our various donations to each other.
If anything it was the people from Kos.
I’m sure they were voting more heavily at the time the server crashed (due to the open thread mention and diaries).
Hmm, that's another way for you to Corco a poll.
DNS the server with constant requests like you used to do to USSM, but you know, against a server from this century.
I may have done that by refreshing about every 10 seconds
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I was thinking about trying to crash Kos
but realized that was futile
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It would have, but instead it came across as if you thought
1999 was the oldest year qualifying under a previous decade.
Welcome to lowered standards.
EVANGELICAL FREEPER
PROOF PROOF
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
One could argue that in computer terms
it is even older than normal.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
`
Geez, where is Keith Olbermann when you need him?
Knowing how big of a baseball fan and hater of idiocy he is, probably voting for DC.
I'd like to hear this special comment.
I fucking hate you Mariners
This has taken way more than five seconds
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Either I'm getting delirious or that was hilarious
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"Take 5 Hours and Help Dave!"
Seriously, that’s basically what it’s been for me today. Good thing I don’t have a girlfriend who I’m ignoring or anything.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Outside of heading out to eat, I've been on Kos and here since 2 PM.
I’m supposed to be cramming for two major tests I have tomorrow.
It's not like I have professional responsibilities I ought to be tending to or anything.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I don't have a big test tomorrow
Or anything, so I shouldn’t actually be studying
This definitely isn’t helping me procrastinate at all
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
My wife's out of town so I've got nothing better to do
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
esoteric's non-existant girlfriend.
I’m ignoring her as well.
She thinks you're okay.
But I don’t think she’s hit it off with Matthew at all, that pissant.
But then imaginary girlfriends can be finicky like that.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Actual quote from my girlfriend in the other room:
“Jeff Sullivan? Isn’t he the one you showed me who had his face stuck onto Hitler’s body?”
I do love her so.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
See, the reason this isn't fair is because you studiously keep your personal life offline.
You fucker, I have no way to blast back.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
If you've learned nothing else from this thread
it’s that you can make shit up.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
[insert link to get Jeff a craigslist GF diary here]
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
DMZ is bringing it back into style.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Good thing to realize I've been unwittingly setting it up on a tee for the past 10 posts or so.
But I admit – I laffed.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I don't think you're allowed to say that here
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I thought you and Kathleen were really hitting it off.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
She likes to go to be early
Get a good night’s rest. Not like you kids.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO WARN YOU ABOUT MY GODDAMN LAWN
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You don't even have a lawn you crazy bat
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
How would you know
If people even try to look to find out, he threatens them
We may never know the truth!
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
THEN WHAT THE HELL IS THAT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE
oh wait, that’s a driveway with a dead squirrel in it.
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You have a deal squirrel in your driveway?
Why’d you pave over a dead squirrel?
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
it wasn't dead when the process started
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That is one retarded squirrel.
Or, well, it was.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
it should be noted here that I do not in fact have either a driveway nor a dead squirrel in said non-driveway
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How does an old person not have a driveway?
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We have an alley with a detached garage
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
As am I. Every time she walks in here, I'm like "Dammit woman, don't you have some B-school applications to write?"
It’s a very loving relationship.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Now I'm wondering if they took the poll down to ruin our fun
Or if they just don’t care that they’re ruining our fun.
when you do a define:ruination on google
it says “related phrases: Stone Ruination IPA”. The Google is smart.
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Sounds like another one of those crazy defensive metrics.
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 17, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Not only is a word, it's a fucking great one at that.
Use it as much as possible – you’ll sound like you’re 70 years old. As old as Kathleen.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm sticking with 120 Minute tonight, thanks
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Love Dogfish
Never seen the 120 for sale, I’m a fan of the 90 though
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
They don't sell the 120 in a bunch of states, mine included
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
More evidence that your state is stupid.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
God is smiting them for not selling 120 Minute
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If we sold 120 Minute it would burn faster
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Also it would take you longer to figure out you were on fire.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I did not realize this
por qua? ABV too high?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I know a lot of places
Require anything over a certain ABV to be called Malt Liquor and not beer
Which is kind of stupid, but whatever
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know, but they sell Utopias, so fuck them that's what
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Only rich people can afford that.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I am living proof that this isn't true
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
don't insult yourself
you’re just as much people as the rest of us are.
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I got mine at Belmont Station
which only helps if you live in or near Portland.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I live in Syracuse
Wrong side of the coast :(
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
No ABV limit in NY, and DFH is much closer to NY than Portland.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
I've never seen it
I’m sure I could find it, but the places I’ve seen DFH only sold 90
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Based on Beer Advocate
this place is your best bet.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
They do sell 120 Min in CT so go there.
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Actually
I’m at college in the Hudson Valley region, I’m 45 minutes from CT
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
But I'm not quite of age to be buying these type of things
I just have an ID that works in a college town
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
CT Beverage Mart is your friend.
Straight shot on 84 to hartford and you’re golden. Except that then you’re in Hartford.
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I'll talk to my pitching coach
See if he can pick it up if he sees it… what a great influence my college baseball coach is
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
I hope he at least coaches you on how to properly drink without unduly loading your scapula
and tweaking your collateral medial nerve bundle.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He's realistic about the fact we'll be drinking
And he’s a fun guy to hang out with off the field, a hell of a coach, but at the same time can be your best friend too
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
And he's introduced me to some excellent beers
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
This exception deserves a stronger font type.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It was all I could do to type the word without getting nauseated
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Danbary (spl?) Is much closer
And I don’t think quite as bad
Though I’ve never been to either
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I can guarantee you that Hartford is worse than Danbury
Danbury’s just boring. Hartford’s…well, it’s a shithole.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Straight shot on 84 to hartford and you're golden. Except that then you're in
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
That picture reminds me of the Full House house
And makes me want to go back and piss on it some more.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
on Hartford or the Full House house?
either one works, really
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The latter.
I don’t want to go back to Hartford, even to piss on it.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As much as we drink at LL
If you took a piss outside in Hartford someone would be on the ground drinking it to get drunk.
In my neighborhood that piss wouldn't be allowed to hit the ground
there’d be a bunch of people trying to get drunk off it before it got halfway there.
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They only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice
in a lifetime.
… That’s the extent of my Whalers knowledge.
Nope
That’s not even part of my knowledge. I have no idea what their logo looked like. And after a 13 hour work day, I’m far too tired to bother googling it.
It's been awhile since I've looked at the logo
and I just cannot get over how allusory it is.
What it lacks in edge it makes up for in creativity.
GREINKE HO!!!!!
by oc on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I figured.
Better than Jarrod the Wasburninator, anyway.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
This is more unwholesome than that terrible Charlie Murphy gif.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck this I'm getting drunk
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actually wait never mind I have class in 12 hours
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Yeah you're right
Time to break out the High Life
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Power Hour time bitches
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by Corco on Nov 17, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
10 hours of drinking, two hours of frantic attempts to sober up
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I never made it over there this weekend, either
which is mildly annoying.
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This means you must either remain drunk or substitute for it by getting high.
I’m not endorsing a drug-using lifestyle here, don’t get me wrong. But whilst I don’t make the rules, I WILL enforce them.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
wait, aren't we supposed to be angry about something?
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They're trying to take our licenses away!
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck
should have been included with the post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fGl9587X8
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Here's some food for thought
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wow fail
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/11/17/22435/605/34#c34
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I'm angry about this impending hangover.
I’ve forgotten about whatever the hell else it was were on about in this thread.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Wow, Ruby, you're a sneaky gal, aren't ya'
Yep..but I am posting on another website.. under another name..
And the truth about Taylor H finally comes out.
by Matthew on Nov 17, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
They're just trying to keep you off guard
the minute you let your guard down BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
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She is my least favorite type of person.
I blame TESC.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I blame the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
you know, the one behind David Cameron?
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Her kind was around well before the internet.
She just has a forum bigger than the fair trade coffee shop open mic night.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe she wouldn't feel attacked if she weren't retarded
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Are you just going to let this happen, DMZ?
Because first they came for the kos-posters, and I said nothing, because I was thankful not to be one. But then they came for the sabermetricians….
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I just can't get past how much I love the overheated title of the thread.
It’s like we’re interning the Japanese all over again or something.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I don't need to sit here and listen to you shilling for the military-industrial-sports complex, DMZ.
What you do is commercial. I don’t have time for you commercial bullshit anymore, not since I moved to Hawaii.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
"Organizing an attack on me"
Yeah…as if anything this community does could ever be characterized as “organized.”
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
OH NO! RUN FOR COVER!
your intent to disrupt my effort on behalf of the contestant that I support..we have not done this to Cameron..but perhaps we should…
You have to push a couple through
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At least post them in this thread so we can all laugh
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Yes.
Throw some raw meat to the baying hounds of Lookout Landing.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
GOD I HATE THOSE LOOKOUT LANDING JACKALS THEY'RE ALL MORONS
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
That, or she'll come here.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not love us that much, though.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
I was just about to post this quote.
I would love – LOVE I TELL YOU, LOVE – to read those comment threads. It would be a beautiful massacre of brackets.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Just sayin'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/17/223211/87/558/662544
“Shamelessly self promote your diary or pimp for a friend in this Open Thread!”
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM PST reply actions
For an internet forum dedicated to political discussion
They sure don’t like having their arguments served to them with any mustard.
I always assumed people who posted at Kos were really educated
I don’t know if I have ever been so wrong
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This is what I keep thinking
Whatever happened to the “reality based community”?
I was well overdue to be banned anyway
Banning me was the smartest thing you guys ever did for that blog
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I do hope that in like 3-4 years you guys decide to unban me
No matter though, I’m moving to Missouri and will begin posting there under a pseudonym
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USSM is a place to stay on topic now
As such I will stay on topic
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Jesus, you guys ban people over there for stating the TRUTH?
I kid, I kid.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I should clarify that I meant that Japanese people were evil because of their imperialistic tendencies to build car factories on US soil
and were slowly trying to take over America
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and that might have been a little over the top
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Taking over the US automobile market is not the same as trying to take over America.
And it’s laudable. Japanese car makers are more efficient. Note the relative financial positions of Toyota and GM.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Let's not even thinking about getting into an argument over a drunk comment I made over a year and a half ago
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The comment got me banned from one site, no reason for it to get me banned from two
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The comment got me banned from one site or it shouldn't get me banned from two?
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I prefer to think DMZ meant the latter: no reason why it shouldn't get you banned here too!
Not that I think you should be, just that it’s in keeping with Derek’s delightfully zany antipathy towards you. I sense some love in there as well, FWIW.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
To be fair, this is a ridiculously small cross-section of Kos readership.
I have the feeling your opinion is based on an impression of DK’s version of Taylor H or butthol or Coach or something.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Any movement
Left or Right
Has its fair share of wingnuts and idiots
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
The people attacking Dave
RubyGal and the like.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I got tiny surprise face on lock.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
I think Ruby's pretty much proved she's immune to reason
but you’re welcome to try
Bahahahah
#
Careful Ruby, (0+ / 0-)
The moderator on USSM is a chap named Graham. I’ve heard he sics flesh-eating furries on offenders.
But seriously, that might not be such a good idea. It would just escalate the situation.
by Engelwood on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 09:16:38 PM PST
[ Parent ]
J.K.L.
Well, as if it wasn't already blazingly obvious that the guy is an LL denizen, it is now.
Sounds kinda like R.J. Anderson actually, what with the furry fixation…
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm being entirely honest when I say that fellow isn't me.
I’m no where near that eloquent.
Oh noes...they're internet married!
This will redound to Dave C.’s detriment!
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Yes, I'm hiding here, posting under my own name in public
It’s like the Purloined Letter, only I’ve placed myself on the mantle, and Kos readers are the detectives
You're skulking under the cover of our inky SB Nation cloak.
You are a man without honor.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
It'd be better if you were the Tell Tale Heart
because then you would slowly be driving Ruby insane.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I'm pleased that I know the Tell Tale Heart
but I’m disheartened that I only know the reference cos of the Simpsons.
Hidden in plain site
<img src=“http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/deception-rape-demotivational-poster.jpg”
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
if you're gonna fail you may as well go all out, right?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I should keep trying until I figrue it out
I knows what I did lulz
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot the > at the end of the link, I'mr etarded
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
I’m digging my hole deeper and deeper
This is becoming embarrassing
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck
Does HTML not work? Or am I doing it wrong
Here’s the link straight up
http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/deception-rape-demotivational-poster.jpg
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
It's funny how much this guy hates Dave + DMZ
This guy must be Logan or Mr. X.
Nah, he sounds to lucid to be Logan.
It's fascinating, because he's obviously reading these threads too.
I wonder if he’s a well-known poster.
Okay, I admit it: I’m arc14. I can’t help it, I fucking hated the way he ruined Felix’s pitch selection.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Who was that one M's blogger who pretended he was hispanic or something?
It’s THAT guy. I forget most of his story, but I remember him being fairly nutty.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
On a brief and somewhat serious note
There’s a weird slice of USSM dom that won’t stop reading the site no matter how nicely we ask. They write hate mails, they slag us on other sites, and when I reply and say “hey, it clearly makes you unhappy, why don’t you stop reading?” they reply “Oh no! I appreciate everything you do, it’s just that you suck and you’re all horrible writers and you were wrong about Miguel Cairo”…
it’s weird.
Now that you mention it
That slice of your readers reminds me of how a lot of us react towards Geoff Baker. =(
I stopped from about the time he called me out in late September
to earlier this week. I began to get afraid that I was missing a lot of hot information about the search for our next manager. Turns out I wasn’t.
Wait don't you post at Kos under the same name?
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
was that a reply to me?
because I don’t actually post at Kos. Never read it before this whole kerfuffle. I find sites like Kos are just as annoying as extreme right-wing sites.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Who says I'm posting at Kos at all?
I’m just chilling here. You know, kicking it. Whatever the kids call it now.
I thought I remember you saing in a USSM comment thread that you posted at Kos.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
I believe you're "rapping" with the "youth"
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Seems to me you need to wear a black cloak in order to skulk properly
Anything else is just cut-rate skulking.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
acr14 is your friend? QUICK GET HIM!
Organized assault! Go!
Shit! I better talk to ruby about defending
myself from organized attacks! She’s an expert!
Fuck off, you freepers!
It is pretty exciting
It’s almost as good as that time I got picked to be in that book. Or that time I wrote that other book.
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
it was the most insanely right wing fascist piece if literature that came to mind
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Don't apologize, that was utterly hilarious.
Catches the DKos conspiracy vibe perfectly.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I respect the hell out of DMZ and know he's not used to my sense of humor.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not at all offended if that's in question
That was “wow, I can’t believe it went that far so quickly”
It's been awhile since you really hung out here at LL, hasn't it?
We move way faster than that most of the time.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I've never even heard of that
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Are we going to need a part 2 like a gamethread?
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
I think so
I’m going to not sleep and keep chugging a beer every ten minutes until the voting page is no longer forbidden
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Drunk Corco AND Flame War on the Internets?
Could this GET any better? I think not.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
I've got two 30 racks of High Life, a 12 pack of Pyramid Hefeweizen, a 12 pack of Pyramid Snow Cap
and two handles of Idaho Silver vodka
I’m set for a while
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that should get you through till about 4am
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Perhaps DMZ will unban him
once he’s in a coma due to alcohol poisoning.
Ah, the irony.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'd appreciate that
DMZ: When I die can you please unban me?
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I blame you
http://ussmariner.com/2004/08/22/linking-up-and-site-warning/#comments
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You guys should have banned me early when you had the chance
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403 Forbidden
Not even I am that crafty
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what about Taylor, is he that crafty?
I hear he gets 7 straight As or some crazy shit
and that was just in first period gym
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
My cat just ate a panda
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by Corco on Nov 18, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
but we're winning by like 130 votes
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Yeah, but then that ballot box full of votes from San Francisco is going to show up...
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Conspiracy!
The success of Prop 8 has reinvigorated the – no, I’m not going there.
I've come to the conclusion that I'm loyal to Markos and a handful
of other front page diarists. As for the regular posters there, I’m going to assume they’re all as brilliant as the ones who have been spamming for Mauro. As Kos once said, screw them.
Good call.
I’ve hung with some of the front pages at Netroots Nation/Yearly Kos. They’re good people… but the commenters are kinda ’eh", with some real wingnuts.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
I've met some of those people (on both sides) in person. As scary as they are online, it's way worse in real life.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
5 seconds to help Dave
Has suddenly become
“If I take 5 seconds to go piss, there is so many new posts I can’t read them at the rate they are coming in”
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions
that'd be the best closed system ever
beer helmet + catheter
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I remember this thread back when it was a wee lad several days ago.
Funny how it exploded TODAY and not, say, yesterday.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I haven't pulled a power hour in a while
This is getting difficult and I’m only 7/12 of the way done
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God, when I think of how many years it's been since I turned 21...
…no, it hurts too much.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
1 1.5 oz shot/drink of beer every minute for 1 hour
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The first 20 minutes are simple
The second 20 you start questioning your ability to keep going, but still feel pretty good
The last 20 minutes you just want it to be over
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
I've got 9 minutes left
and still wanting it to be over
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Yep
The more beer and the longer it drags on
The more full you feel, and the worse your attention span
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I mostly just have to piss
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That was a fun hour
5 minute break and then round two
Let’s see if Corco can drink 15 beers in two hours
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The worst part is that this hurts Kyle most of all
Finally, someone gives him some love in a diary and things go haywire
He didn't want love though
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If I could vote again I would have voted for him and not Dave
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No why the fuck would I vote for David Mauro?
Dave Cameron all the way
then Kyle
then Justin for being a creepy douche
then Snively for being a genius
then everybody else
then Mauro
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I want to join Kos to start a thread on this vote called "IF YOU TOLERATE THIS YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE NEXT"
Because that’s the vibe I’m getting here.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 9:43 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I love the Manic Street Preachers and I approve of this tactic
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
The best part is that 99% of them wouldn't catch the reference at all.
If I played it straight they would totally second my hysteria.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I signed up earlier
but by the time I am allowed to post diaries this whole situation will be over
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
One week from day
The poll will have been done for awhile by then
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yes but you said "this whole situation will be over"
which is unlikely
Bahahaha
Overheard down the hall:
“HEY!!!! GET OFF MY FACEBOOK!!!!”
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and the bippin and the boppin and the hippin and the hoppin
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Nov 17, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
what are these jello pudding pops?
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"and neither did I" didn't make the final version but it's in the directors cut
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
You seriously don't know about Jello Pudding Pops?
What an impoverished life you must have had.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
before actually
We had snow coolers before
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Nobody ever told me of their existence
Please hold as I piss and then google Jello Pudding Pops
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no invite to the birthday party for you
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Either I'm intoxicated or that's funny
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I'm sure there are some orphans or kittens we have yet to foul
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
We hate Seattle Bubble and Kos now
who could possibly be left?
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If we win this we can beat 4chan
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Lets take em down then bitches
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there isn't a signal way this wouldnt end horribley for us.
We need to shot to be the something aweful of the sportsworld
www.theboreds.com
That would be a pretty fair fight, it’s the alternate message board I post on, and although I post more there than here, would make an amusing matchup, as we over there have engaged in plenty of wars in the past
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
I will educate all of you in internet poll gaming
We’ll figure out how to write a poll bombing script. They will DIE
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Nah, they're surly and unresponsive to these sorts of things. (I have a lot of experience with these sites.)
We hit Free Republic. We hit ’em hard and we hit ’em first. And then we get ready for THE WAVE.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Watching my favorite site take on my second favorite has been surreal
Next LL will move onto defeating livejournal, Achewood, and the music of Bob Dylan.
I plan to go after every single SBN site one by one until we run the network
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
Robert
I went out for a friend’s birthday until late Friday night, hence why I couldn’t bring myself to go out again on Saturday. Give me a call this weekend if you want to get a drink?
I want DRays Bay
I could those comment threads up in a major way.
There would be blood.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
We're going to own the internet
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if we don't like it after we own it
can we exchange it for a better one?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
But Cello Cat just doesn't have that same ring.
To say nothing of String Bass Cat.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
they're all about jello pudding pops and indoor plumbing though
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
It has been an eventful evening good sir
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oh and corco's on hour two of some insane binge drinking project
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
BRB I have to go to my car to get more beer
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you'd goddamn well better not be about to drive that car
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Dude, he just has to make a quick run down to the liquor store. It's only a mile away.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
No it needs a new alternator before I can drive it again
Right now it is a very expensive and spacious fridge
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I guess I could drive my other car though
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the car is where all the college kids keep their beers
what could go wrong?
This reminds me of my favorite Virginia institution: drive-through liquor stores.
The one we frequented was called the “Brew-Thru.” Gotta love it.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
They have those in North Dakota too
because when it’s -40 outside, you don’t want to get out of the car to start drinking.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I'm not Jeff, I have no obligation to read every single post on this thread
by seattlebruin on Nov 17, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
It's less about obligation than about morbid curiosity though
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
This isn't the only site with which you'll have to catch up tonight
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
The only one gets two million readers a day
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
You familiar with the one I'm talking about?
Great track, final one on Fear Of Music. Called “Drugs.” Very appropriate for tonight’s thread.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Am I the only one who doesn't know what he's referring to?
PS, you fuckers crashed my computer.
Well that and the combination of my iPod starting to sync at the same time did it in
by seattlebruin on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
We picked a fight with the largest liberal web community on the internet, Jeff made a bold stand for justice and bagged himself a 49 year old, and DMZ is skulking like the creep he obviously is.
Oh, and Corco may die of alcohol poisoning.
It’s been a long night.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
The LL history books will speak fondly of this night.
Who wants to start the LLikipedia entry for this?
I think Dave winning the scholarship is more likely.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Turning Texas Blue is about as likely as
Cuban Buying the Mariners.
It isn’t going to happen, Mauro. Give up and quit blogging.
You do realize that if you actually pointed that out on Kos you'd be troll-rated into oblivion on a bad day?
ZOMG GUYS WE CAN TURN OKLAHOMA BLUE TOO.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
That's almost as likely as turning Idaho blue
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But Dave IS going to win the scholarship
So our odds are good then, right?
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Well, considering the top two are Daves...
by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I hope she sleeps well
And isn’t jumping up every few minutes at the distant sound of someone at a keyboard.
I worked from 7am until 8 tonight
and yet that comic exactly summarizes why I am still awake.
It's funny you should mention this...my plan was to read some old XKCD before I went to bed for the night.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I wonder what is going on
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Well, thankfully TiF screencapped that one for us. I think it ought to go on the sidebar.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
You can still search for it and find it, but that subthread is missing from the actual diary
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
S'ok big papa.
I saved the moment. It was 105% amazing.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Jeff put him to bed for the night earlier.
It was charmingly fatherlike.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Nice dad way.
But to be fair the creepy stepfather stuff always happens on the d/l. Lord knows what personalized message he sent him as he boxed him for the night.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I don't think much we said
on our own behalf really needed policing, we kept it pretty civil
That being said, I’m turning it in for the night, and I’m scared to see where this thing will go by morning
I’m gonna have a lot of reading to do
by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Jesus, I can't even go out to dinner for an hour in the offseason without missing a 2,000-comment thread.
Good work at Daily Kos, all. Hilarious. Those people — at least the commenters — are painfully dense. I was always under the impression that Daily Kos was a place for pretty acute people. Just a waterfall of stupid.
Read the Kos threads while you can, my friend...they're going down.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
This thread made my week
So glad I went through and read every comment on here and DK. I can’t remember the last time I actually cried laughing so hard. Now my abs hurt.
Holy crap do NOT refresh
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It took me 15 minutes to reload
In the meantime I started playing Baseball Mogul and lost a bunch of games because for some reason my catcher was playing shortstop
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then how did I lose a bunch of games
with fucking Jeff Clement playing shortstop
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My internet does
My computer is only 4 years old
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I may be able to help you out soon.
The office I work for is in the process of virtualizing a bunch of our servers. We may have some gear that’s up for sale soon. If something good pops up, I can probably convince my boss to swing you guys a good deal on a rackmount server.
My company has Dell 1750s that I might be able to swing at you.
They’re not made of gold or anything, but they’re decent servers. If you’re interested, I can talk to my boss.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Nice try
I have no money- I’m saving up to move to Missouri and also have to buy a new alternator for my car
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and I've given you guys like $80
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yes it was a joke
and we appreciate your generous support
I crashed your server enough that we'll call it at most even
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Let's take over the world tonight
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Well I don't know about you bitches
but I’m staying awake until the poll site isn’t 403 forbidden anymore
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aaaaaaand .....
the wacky story about the minister encouraging his married parishioners to keep sex journals finally causes me to walk over and turn off the tv and pick up the tangled internet threads tomorrow
Ladies and gentlemen, good night.
I think I increased my post count by something like 200 in this thread alone. It’s been legendary. I hope to awake tomorrow to the world burning from our efforts tonight.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Bitches I may be drunk but I just won the World Series on BBM07
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in my 2nd season as GM on Mogul difficulty
as the Mariners
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all i can say is Albert Pujols and Grady Sizemore are your friends
Farm systems are overrated and hang on to Ibanez and Sexson
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and don't expect to win anytime soon afterwards
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Here's a hint
The guy who started 125 games in Left Field won the Gold Glove at THIRD BASE
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Hooray as of tomorrow I will have skipped three classes in a row
of a class that meets 2 times a week
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with mandatory attendance?
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Jesus Christ, I'm gone all day, and when I load up LL, there's a huge thread on LL loaded with politics?
Where am I? What’s going on? What year is this? Al? Al? Damnit Al where are you?
Also, is Dave winning or losing?
Dave was up by about 130 votes when the scholarship poll crashed
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I just ate a giant bag of Bugles and now i feel sick
Please come back scholarship thread I want to sleep
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Site just went from a 403 Forbidden to a blank page
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I'm going to sleep and wake up in 2 hour intervals and hopefully something happens
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HTML file on the blog site reads
Our server was heavily overloaded, and in response the host killed the site. We got the flat file HTML portion of the site back live, but whenever we tried to get the blog live the server load went to 20. The morning shift comes on at 7:30 and should try to get this sorted out in the morning.
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I guess that means I don't have to wake up in 2 hour intervals
I’ll be up at 7 AM to resume obsessive refreshing
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oh and back to the old 403 forbidden
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So I guess I'll be up at 3:15 to check this out
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...It is back up...
And I think it just let me vote again.
...and now I'm here
The first part of your statement is certainly true.
I refuse to comment on the second part of your statement.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2008 3:31 AM PST up reply actions
"What am I going to do for the next 2 hours?" He said to himself.
“Hey, the scholarship thread has 1,400 comments! I will start reading it until it gets boring.”
…
…(hours)
…
“Woah.”
...and now I'm here
PLUTim got in on the fun
Jeff went and trolled…It was epic.
Jeff and DMZ and Corco were all in rare form last night, as was whoever "Engelwood" really is
I think this thread also contains some of my finer work.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
A clever diversion, but not clever enough
We all know you’re really Engelwood.
Either you or R.J. Anderson.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Alternate theory: redwolf75
Funny how he seems to have ducked our suspicions…
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Could also be JI or Corco....
Hmmm…..I want someone to take credit once this all blows over.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I give myself credit for figuring it out.
My clue was that you always seemed to have the links to the threads on hand for me when I asked for them. It meant you were over there constantly, contributing.
Well done, sir. Your posts there were smart and constructive without being trollish.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
and I guess Obama may be freeping DailyKos too, soon
because he might be <a href “http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/11/18/111941/47/5#c5”>a front for the Neocons.
Mwhaha...looks like my boys weighed in. Go Dave.
Also, epic thread. One of the top “fanposts” of all time.
You mean funny
Those DK’ers are sharp.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 18, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I should sign up and start replying to every one of rubygal's comments in the same way
by Graham MacAree on Nov 18, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Or find some of my LLcampaign posters
by Graham MacAree on Nov 18, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Why would DK vote J/M/G?
They don’t fear banning, only right-wing blogs
by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I can edit them
Or maybe shop Texas all flooded or something I DON’T KNOW
by Graham MacAree on Nov 18, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Who cares?
Based on the greater population he probably sucks.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 18, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Let's take that motherfucker down
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is with the burnt orange color theme among these progressive blogs?
Are they basically copying DK or is there something more meaningful to the choice of color?
Copying DKos.
Kos is informally known among progressive blogs as “Big Orange.” Identifying oneself with the orange of Kos, therefore, is a way of subliminally establishing one’s progressive bona fides.
Yes, I know, it’s becoming more and more like sports team affiliations everyday. “GOTTA WEAR THE TEAM COLORS DOOD!!”
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
The thread is too old and I'm not opening a new diary
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 18, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Can't really argue too much
Would’ve preferred Mauer, but this was predictable.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 18, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Look!
we can give Jeff a gift subscription to Daily Kos!
by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Not to completely repeat myself
but everything on the “benefits list” can be done by adblock for free. And here I thought dailykos people were smart.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Many of us could have told you this long ago.
But that’s neither here nor there.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
So I just zoomed through this thread again on my lunch break.
It was every bit as awesome in the cold light of day as it was last night. One for the archives.
In fact, my hope is that we accumulate enough posts on this thread that it becomes a black hole sucking the entire SBNation and DailyKos servers into oblivion with it. Maybe even TAKING DOWN THE ENTIRE INTERNET WHILE WE’RE AT IT.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Yeah, this thread is the third longest thread this week
not much of a chance of it destroying SBN =(
by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Well I'm all caught up now.
Good way to spend a lunch break.
I guess the no politics rule was there to keep us from realizing that LL is actually a hardcore right wing blog.
the other angels fan
You mean you hadn't already realized that!?
by mariners124m on Nov 18, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Don't let the Invisible Hand slap you on the ass on your way out.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Nov 18, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
more lunch entertainment?
use the search engine to follow different threads at Kos … the ever-proliferating diaries for Mauro, rubygal’s comments in unrelated diaries . oh look! Mauro posts yet another diary for himself today!
and another open session mention by KOS himself.
too bad poor David Mauro is being so overrun by the vast hordes of anti-progressive conspirators out there.
Someone posted a diary yesterday about this, that easily made it onto the rec list. And honestly, it looks like with all the Lieberman stuff from today, this diary is “slipping through the cracks”—- I would try reposting sometime this evening or tomorrow. Good luck!
Because if there’s one thing Mauro needs, it’s more diary entries about the scholarship.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 18, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Kos just posted about mauro in his midday open thread
Seems like every few hours we get a “Never forget…to vote for David Mauro.” post/diary
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 18, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
it was on the verge of being forgotten
once again, the liberal media elite tries to influence EVERYTHING. Or is it the right-wingers? I can’t keep my sources of evil straight these days.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
David Mauro's blog has received 16 comments today
People aren’t reading his website. They’re voting blindly. That makes me mad.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 18, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
no, he put up a diary asking for votes just after he emailed Kos a week ago
in fact he’s put up about 5 of them….
I officially don't have the energy to care about this today
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I'll resume caring tomorrow and Thursday for the more important home stretch
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how are you feeling today by the way?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I skipped my 8 AM class for the 4th time in 5 class meetings which I was sort of trying to avoid
and my room has enough fart gas in it right now that I put up a sign outside that says “No Smoking within 30 feet of this room” but otherwise I’m delightful
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As a general strategy
binge drinking till late at night/early in the morning is probably not the best way to assure attendance at an 8AM class. Glad to hear you’re up and around.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I learned that a long time ago
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Also...
The one of our own phrase they keep using creeps me out. It’s like from that movie creeps “One of us! One of us!” /shudders
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 18, 2008 1:48 PM PST reply actions
[snerk]
Ruby checks in with David M on his latest diary:
David .. should I post a friendly diary today or should I not do it because I attract characters..
by RubyGal on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 03:02:06 PM PST
I think she should put up a poll and let the people decide
IT’S DEMOCRACY!!!
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As above, I've never really read DK before this whole thing
it’s really scary – I agree with a lot of their stances, but it’s so full of humorless douchebags I don’t think I could last 20 minutes over there before screaming GET A LIFE AND A SENSE OF HUMOR YOU DOUCHEBAGS in every single post.
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dust attracts more dust, that's all I'm saying
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I'm kinda tempted to sign up just to post 'rawr' as a reply to that
by Graham MacAree on Nov 18, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm in love with ruby now
she’s my new favorite person in the entire universe and I love to fantasize about how much fun it must be to have conversations with her.
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all the more reason to love her madly
she’s so innocent and earnest. it’s sweet. I can’t wait to have a cup of coffee with her and discuss….oh, everything. She’s the magic woman with all the answers!
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If she had been born in a different part of the country she'd be a Freeper.
She’s convinced USSM is messing with the server, she’s convinced that any offhanded joke about stuffing the ballot box for Dave Cameron is completely true, and she’s convinced that offhanded remarks about comments she has made are organized personal attacks.
She’s a total idiot with a martyr complex. She is living proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. She is my least favorite kind of person in the world.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2008 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
so is the voting over today
“Our panel of judges will decide on 10 finalists and public voting will be enabled the morning of November 3rd. Voting will be closed on November 17th 2008.”
or thursday? “Voting will be closed on November 20th, 2008 at 11:59pm PST.”
They also took 20 finalists
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oh noes!
Ruby is onto us:
“Yes…and did you see the front page of my diary they have figured out how to vote numerous times by turning off the browser..”
apparently she’s missed all the note on Kos the last few days about how to clear the browser & voting….
How do you vote multiple times by turning off the browser anyway?
I can’t figure out how to vote at all with my browser turned off
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Corco better get his rest for a showdown tomorrow night.
I think this stuffing the ballot box is now officially approved (not by DC, but this community).
Those fuckers are going down
I’ve been exercising my F5 key, my fingers, my brain
Prepare for Dave Cameron domination bitches
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If you are sufficently technically advanced, well...
I don’t know that instruction would be required.
I can clear cookies.
I could go reset my IP address from my wireless router, but that would be too much for even 10 votes.
If that's your technical expertise, consider proxies
Happy hunting, there may be some the Kos crowd didn’t hit in the first days.
You're going to be putting up a post encouranging people to vote when there are only a couple hours left, right?
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hey did you here markos paid off the poll ppl
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2008 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
We must not forget this picture. It will come in handy forevermore.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
So do we know why NOBODY has received so much as a single vote in like 2 hours?
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I'll kill some mother fuckers
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I adore Danielle Lee's Urban Science blog.
Nowhere near as much as USSM obviously, but it’s great.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Just as a placemarker
Mauro 11489
Dave 10983
@ 6:44 our time
does it count, though?
There are situations where it’ll let you vote but won’t increment the count
But every time I refresh Dave's total is the same and Mauro has another 20 votes.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
6:51 placemarker
Mauro 11604
Cameron 10988
And there’s no front-page Kos thing live.
So in 7 minutes, Mauro got +205, Cameron +5
Holy shit there's no other explanation than you're lying
CAMERON SUPPORTER LIES TO MAKE MAURO LOOK BAD
Well, it was sudden,
but was it inevitable?
by Matthew on Nov 18, 2008 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Corco is too busy testing the wordpress democracy plugin
to see its limits
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form spoofing, probably
most likely the exploit we’re seeing, if any
Without saying I'm working on it
I’m not sure how somebody who would try to do that would parse out the automatic IP logging that comes sent with the form option
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Votes are processed through a PHP file saved on the server
All the form does is send the vote to that PHP file which logs the IP, stores the cookie, and counts the vote
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well, there's two ways
1. Traditionally form spoofing: you build a form with a button that says “David Mauro” or “Free porn” or whatever. The form action is http://whatevertheirformactionis.php method=post
then you use a set of input tags, like
input type=‘hidden’ id=‘dem-choice-xx’
input type=‘hidden’ for=‘dem-choice-xx’
or whatever the values the form submits.
Then you get a ton of people to click that button, and their unique IPs… voila. It’s like recruiting people for the vote, only you’d control the options.
2. You crank up Apache, install PHP, and say curl, then build your own form the same way, passing each request through a proxy
That said, I have no idea if either of these are in use.
and by in use I mean "is currently racking up Mauro's vote"
thank you. I just want to be totally clear
Neither of those options truly allow for multiple voting though
It just localizes the voting to save people on clicks
Passing everything through a proxy would be too cumbersome to be worthwhile- so I guess the only hope is to somehow disable IP logging
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Interesting
I’ll watch House and then play with it after the break
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You're more annoying than I was in my prime
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I wouldn't know. I bet the 18th century was neat though
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 18, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Dear God
this wouldn’t even have been funny if you had said this to one of the sites’ senior members
by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2008 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
But it vaguely might have made sense
Telling it to a 20 year old is just stupid
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And even then it's not all that funny
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9:24 milestone
Mauro 11936
Cameron 11034
so in another 2:20, that was Mauro +211, Cameron +38
yow
There's nothing about that that seems fishy in the slightest.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
well, gosh-- David emailed them earlier-- maybe he can call shenanigans, too
Can’t vote either … I went to the site with Foxpro and IE and there was no way to vote. Just the totals for the candidates.
by bobtmn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 12:24:27 PM PST
thats a big problem I’ll send an email about this to the people running the contest.
by TexasDemocrat06 on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 12:27:41 PM PST
20 minutes hence:
Mauro-235
Dave-13
I have a hard time believing this reflects reality.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2008 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Ahhhh
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/18/21302/915/835/663260
6:30, Rubygal gets her daily shot in
It's not Corco running up Mauro's count
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Is there someone in charge of the poll to contact about this?
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 18, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
So it is fair game to game then if it is clear the other side is gaming?
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I wonder what would happen if Justin Varner had some kind of strange come from behind victory
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I support you to do whatever you need to make the total even, at least.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 18, 2008 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Your support means nothing to me but thank you
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I'll assume that Dave enjoys taking the high road
but when it comes down to it he likes money
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And third place is YOU'RE FIRED
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
see this watch?
It cost more than your car.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
update on dKos carpet bombing
up to 31 postsfor Mauro over the last 2 weeks, including 5 by Mauro himself.
Cocksuckers that they are
They probably would still take our side
It’s worth thinking about
by mariners124m on Nov 18, 2008 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
AN aren't that bad, are they?
It’s HH that’s full of…well, you know.
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Wowww
Fuckkkkk, this is my bad, for some reason I was thinking AN stood for Angels Nation, and that AN was actually Halo’s Heaven
I fail at life, forgive me, huge fucking brain fart
I should know better by now
by mariners124m on Nov 18, 2008 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
That's been our problem all along
we haven’t demonized and polarized “the opponent” enough.
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dKos doesn't want to be pallin' around with sports bloggers
by eponymous_coward on Nov 18, 2008 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Or, viewed over a three hour time frame
6:44 our time —> now
Mauro 11489 —> 11936 , or +450
Dave 10983 —> 11034, or +50
That’s not that outrageous, though I’m a little surprised that after 900 diaries including daily front-page linkages that another “open thread” mention gets him over four hundred new votes.
I guess that's not out of the question
but it still seems a little…suspect.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I was about to write a semi-serious email to Olbermann
to see if he would at least cast a vote for Dave, if not mention him and USSM somewhere, when i saw this link on Olbermann’s page:
“Keith on Kos…Commentary on the DailyKos. Read occassional commentary on the Web site”
Quite apart from the misspelling, and quite apart from how I’m not surprised that Olbermann’s stuff shows up on Kos, it did make me think that Olbermann wouldn’t be so predisposed to favor one side or the other, at least not publicly.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
He's already got KLAW on his side...
And his comment in Dave’s USSM thread was priceless:
I voted. And that’s before I knew he was running against a pinko commie.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Nov 19, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
I saw that, and for now I'm telling myself that KLaw wasn't even jesting.
It makes me feel all warm and snuggly inside.
I’m trying to do my part right now as well. Work? Fuck work! Duty calls!
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Yeah, but did it count it?
It’s been doing this thing where it’ll put the buttons up but eat your vote — it’s why the Kos people every so often go “oooh oooh I’m l33t!!!”
Though frankly with those vote totals, they might well be.
That's "1337."
Thank God I was never fluent in 1337 Speak.
This is an epic thread...
and I will use to end most likely one of the longest lurking spree’s in LL’s history.
Congratulations on resurfacing. Now find friends and get them to vote!
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm still hoping
this was some sort of bizarre social-engineering experiment and at the end they reveal what they discovered about humanity. And still give Dave $10,000.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I hope he's caught date-raping a disabled student at his school whilst simultaneously plagiarizing her term paper.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Not that I would object in the least to Dave winning $10,000
but how on earth can people with that much cash to give away possibly give it away in such a stupid way?
They're not stupid
This kind of process gets them a ridiculous amount of traffic from highly ranked pages. Other processes do not.
They basically spent $10,000 to get a lot of advertising on some high traffic blogs.
by davidcameron on Nov 19, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
also: OMG Dave's been here all along
If I was “hiding out” Dave’s like… I don’t even know. The master of concealment?
I don't know
when I was in college my freshman year roommate got a $1000 scholarship because he worked at a grocery store. No application, no criteria – he just went to his store’s HR department and said “can I have it” and they said sure. This doesn’t seem too out of the norm.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I wish the voting page would update upon refresh
It hasn’t in over an hour
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Character assasination attempts
Anyone have links to the attempts at character assassination/genreal slagging on dave? The crazier the better
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 19, 2008 2:49 PM PST reply actions
Jonah Spangenthal-Lee has a post up at Slog asking people to vote for Dave.
Their readership isn’t Kos-like, but it’s pretty solid. Thanks Jonah!
Yeah, if you've been watching the vote totals for as long as I have--
you see it essentially runs
Kos front page post= 200-400 for Mauro
Kos diary=small number
Where Dave’s number is relatively steady. I don’t know that he gets 800 before the deadline… crap, I don’t even know the deadline off the top of my head.
12:00 AM PST Friday.
No front page post on Kos tonight; just a rec’d diary. Hopefully the blogosphere will come through over the next few days. Kos is the kind of website people check every single day; a lot of people read sites like THT once every few weeks, especially during the off-season.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
maybe we're better off sneaking up then
if only to keep them from getting Kos to endorse it multiple times on the front page
I agree
Hopefully if you put up another front page post with just a few hours left there will be a nice vote surge in our direction
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One more front page post with a couple hours to spare couldn't hurt anything could it?
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depends on how restless the natives are
fun fact: the people who complain about the vote posts (or the 5 book posts) are never people who donate or otherwise support the site.
Yeah, it's funny how that works, isn't it?
THIS CONTENT SHOULD ALWAYS BE FREE AND I SHOULD HAVE NO BARRIERS TO A CONSTANT STREAM OF ON TOPIC STUFF WITHOUT ANY STUPID DIVERSIONS BUT OH MY GOD YOU SUCK AT THIS.
people make me laugh.
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Jackasses
I bet they don’t tip at restaurants either
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I just read a 2007 best of sportswriting anthology.
My wife picked it up for me, that piece you wrote was not too shabby.
The new Stranger rolls out every Thursday in print.
I think the online version pops up Wednesdays, I’m only guessing but I would imagine online readership spikes tonight through tomorrow. Right at the wire so it might be perfect.
"They're making they're push, so we gotta push back!"
I alerted Jonah to the scholarship contest earlier today. It’s good to see it made it to the slog. He tells me he might put up another post tomorrow to get more last minute votes. Here’s hoping!
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 19, 2008 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
we're making a push? what?
I would have hoped a push would be a little more…
anyway
"now push it real good!"
I would have hoped a push would be a little more…
A little more what? I just figured it was worth getting the word out to as many people as possible. Jonah is one of the few people on slog that give a damn about sports so it seemed like a decent way to grab some more votes.
by Willie Mays Haze on Nov 19, 2008 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
that wasn't about Jonah
and certainly I appreciate the effort.
I think we're conservative fascists, with a strong anti-socialist agenda.
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I see Dave down by 746.
Just checking if that’s what you see.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 19, 2008 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't had the strength to do a comment check on dKos.
I don’t think I could handle Ruby gloating about their little blog that could took down that self-promoting, evil bourgeousie.
"zomg we're so grassroots!"
“This is our version of the March on Washington!”
Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast
It jumped up a notch.
As long as nobody kills rubygal with a trident, we're good
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I voted for Dave
Even before I knew it was the great ideological battle for the soul of teh intertubes! I’ll admit complete confusion at why the Kos people are taking this as a personal affront to all that is holy and Democratic etc. I mean, that’s pretty much my politics but I’m not sure what is proved by “some liberal blogger beats some baseball blogger for internets money!”
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Nov 20, 2008 1:37 PM PST reply actions
the one and only
Been slumming it with my sis, Cora.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Nov 20, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
it's funny because they're all progressives
but they use the same demonizing tactics that their ideological opposites use when making their arguments. And yet somehow it’s OK because they’re progressive about it.
But more to your point, it’s blindingly obvious that Dave hates both America and freedom, so I can see why they’re getting all up in arms.
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This does however prove that conservatives are powerless
Seriously, two links on two top-line sites and Cameron got ~200 votes or something. Kos plays up those two links and they get, at last count, 3,000. Crazy.
No question, the lefty hordes are much better organized online.
And when they start gathering together in such critical mass…that’s when insanity starts to spread throughout the rank and file.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
...
I am pleased to state the “system” has allowed me (0+ / 0-)
to vote, according the the tally sheets on my paper plate, exactly 116 times.
Yes I know, the polls close this evening and there’s still more voting to do.
Good Luck David, and this was before I was aware RS & Freeperville were trying to KOS the vote (think freepeing a poll).
Again Best Wishes and Good Luck.
It is the province of knowledge to speak. And it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. US Jurist
by Oliver W Holmes the 3rd on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 01:24:15 PM PST
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
It's probably bullshit because if you really spent that much time gaming the poll, wouldn't you have voted a hell of a lot more times than 116?
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I think someone should forward this to the people running the poll?
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think they give a shit
and the Kos people would find something in a USSM thread as “proof” that the “other side” was doing the same thing.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
already happening
Apparently USSM was talking about getting right-wing blogs involved.
Which I’m pretty sure never happened.
These people have absolutely no sense of humor.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
This is why I can't read any sort of political website of any stripe
they all just devolve into humorless echo chambers.
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and as far as I can tell
the only ‘right-wing blog’ involved was here, that was redirected as one post on the Free Republic. That’s it.
Threaten to leave SBN
P.S. is LL the most read blog on SBN besides AN? It certainly seems to get the most comments (besides AN)
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
We need SBN's elaborate right wing fascist technology to survive
We’d crash a home made server in 15 minuter
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
No
It’s one of the leaders, but there are a few that have me beat, like the Cubs blog that I don’t like.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 20, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
The last person to lose an election to Bush!
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
If you think about it
this guys father is responsible for the last 8 years.
Shouldn’t daily Kos want to murder him or something?
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Attacking him on these ground
is no less retarded than what they are doing.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Someone just wrote USSM an email
Saying that since we were trying to stuff the polls through the red blogs, there was no difference from what the other side was doing.
I hope it was the guy who was overly interested in USSM pizza.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I’d argue that Bavasi’s actually a pretty good trader compared to his peers. His biggest weakness is free agent signings.
Thanks for writing,
DMZ
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
But he totally got the last laugh
because now everyone at Q13 knows you’re unethical. Which I’m sure causes you to lose a TON of sleep.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Here
Hi.
I’m not Dave, but if I may — Dave has posted on USSM a couple of times, and at Fangraphs, where he writes, and said “I’m up for this award, if you like my stuff, check me out.”
That’s it. Dave hasn’t solicited other blogs or anything. He’s received support from people like Rob Neyer of ESPN who read the blog.
At the same time, Mauro wrote a diary on Kos about the poll in which he encouraged people to “smurf” the voting as a way to help him. Since then, there have been ~30 diaries between Mauro and supporters on Kos, and there have also been a series of numerous references in front-page posts asking people to vote for him because he’s a progressive blogger. Which I guess is fine, but whatever.
Now, on the last day, there are two minor posts on conservative blogs about the vote. Cameron didn’t solicit them or anything.
Or, to put this another way: Cameron’s made the argument to his audience that he’d appreciate their support for his work. The Kos-led argument is that people should vote for Mauro because he’s a progressive blogger.
That’s a pretty big difference.
And if it matters, having watched the voting pretty closely, I can say Dave maybe got a couple hundred votes from the diary on Red State and the other freep post. Mauro so far today got about 4,000 votes through the diary that said the conservatives were rallying against him and the front page post about this being an “ideological proxy war”.
— Derek
by DMZ on Nov 20, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 11 recs
I'm not sure why these people are so convinced that it's a right vs. left debate instead of a baseball vs. not baseball debate
or why sports bloggers are automatically right wing.
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Jocks = stupid, stupid = right wing
3 degrees
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
`
God I love this site.
Because everything, to these people, is right v. left
there is no such thing as surface, everything has a hidden subtext, and that subtext is always about how red/blue states (delete as applicable) are out to destroy/reaffirm our way of life (delete as applicable), and they’re completely incapable of processing anything that doesn’t fit these rigid guidelines. So they smash whatever argument they’re having into the box containing this argument, no matter what.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
The scary part is how they draw other, initially sane and balanced, people into their web of mania
And create more foamy-mouthed nutjobs. It’s a well-studied process of the radicalization of crowds.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
You obviously don't watch nearly enough Hannity, Colmes, or Olbermann
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I can't imagine ever doing such a thing, myself
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
My mom has Fox News on 24 hours a day.
She watches it while she’s sleeping.
My mom is fucking crazy.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
My in-laws are like this
next time (ok, the first time) I see you remind me to tell you the story of our pre-election debate. It was quite entertaining.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
You can hardly put Olbermann in the same category as
Hannity and Colmes.
Olbermann is to the left what H&C are to the right
strident, voluminous, and convinced of his own moral certitude. Just because I happen to agree with his side doesn’t mean i like his bloviating any more than I like H&C’s.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I would contend that being stident and convinced of their own side
doesn’t make them equals. One show spends its time attacking guests and reading a political party’s talking points almost verbatim. The other does not.
Both are convinced they have a monopoly on the truth and that bothers me.
by BrianL on Nov 20, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
but if you've got enough naivete
and enough conviction then the answer is perfect for you.
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I don't know
but here’s a fairly representative comment from KosLand:
this is a proxy battle… left vs extremists (0+ / 0-)
psychological 1-2 punch. at least for the moment hopefully victory is at hand. How many hours. My hands are getting tired of voting.
'Catsmeat!' he cried. 'I see it all. It was that chump, Catsmeat.'
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Nov 20, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
"left vs. extremists"
Wow…there’s an entire onion’s worth of layered irony in that one.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Sweet titty fucking uncle of Sam Hill
I step away from the computer for 3 hours and this bullshit happens?
Rally time, bitches
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Now I have to skip class
You have no idea how pissed off I am right now
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this is the first GIS result for that particular phrase
there were some good ones out there but I liked this one.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Um... yeah it's over
Mauro just got another 3,500 votes in the past hour
It breaks my heart. THIS FUCKER DOESN'T EVEN NEED THE MONEY.
I’m going to out and strangle a hobo in anger. A progressive hobo.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Congratulations, Mauro.
You just got $10,000 you don’t deserve. Or need.
Hope you enjoy taking that away from a college student that just got married.
The worst part is that I've sparred with Mauro before.
He is quite literally one of the most insufferable douchebags on the internet. My god, I wish I still had the old e-mails of his…you would not believe what a hatefully nasty cocksucker this guy can be off-blog.
Which is course why it’s doubly personal with me.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'll be curious to see
if he is one of those who hits 30 and turns repub, or if he stays dem and just turns his talents to running for office
My issue isn't that Mauro doesn't "deserve" it or "need" it.
He was in the contest, he got the most votes. It’s the way he got the votes that pisses me off.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
It's a merit based scholarship.
There’s a whole other debate about the virtue of purely merit based scholarships of course, but that’s neither here nor there. The vote was supposed to determine who deserved the scholarship most based on their contributions, and in that respect it was a complete and total failure.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
There's nothing wrong with merit-based scholarships provided they're actually decided on grounds of merit
And not, say, getting your fellow Kos myrmidons to freep an internet poll.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Here's the working class coming out, but
I would not apply for a scholarship I did not need.
If the goal is recognition for merit, there’s thousands of other, more appropriate avenues.
I would. I learned that lesson from Milton Friedman.
If there’s a government handout available for which you qualify, you’d be a fool not to take it, regardless of whether you need it.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
My issue is with everything now because anger makes me irrational
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 20, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
See my post above...I'm more irrational than most right now.
A lot of hobos are going to die tonight. A shame, really.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Not really.
More dead hobos = less poverty
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like this week's events have had a lasting political impact on you...
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm right there with you
it’s gone beyond mere irritation to full-blown irrational WTF anger with me. Any response from your chat with Markos that you’d care to share
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share?
I’m so mad I can’t even punctuate properly.
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In short I told him that he should be ashamed
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 20, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I somehow doubt he will agree.
But then I naturally expect the worse; I could well be wrong.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
God dammit, I just got blocked for "racism and hate" at work
that can’t look good
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Depends how much anyone checks that.
“Free Software” gets blocked here, but no one ever checks the logs to see if we tried.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I'm so angry I'm not even thinking in English anymore
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Dumb question: what's the other language?
I’d guess, but I know I’ll guess wrong.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
A bizarre invented one consisting entirely of curses
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
So, Irish
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by pdb on Nov 20, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
As much as the recent actions of Daily Kos piss me off
Responsibility belongs to College Scholarships.org. They created this fiasco. If I were David Cameron, I would have trouble accepting the second place award. It was bandied about earlier, but if Dave would accept it, I would donate money towards his education. If we raised enough, maybe Mr. Cameron could make some headlines by refusing the scholarship.
by John Morgan on Nov 20, 2008 3:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Well, I'd donate to him regardless
but it’d feel more awesome if he did this.
Not to put words in his mouth or ideas in his head
but I believe DMZ might be putting something like this together soon.
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If all Dave's got is the moral high ground, I hope he refuses the second place money.
We’ll take care of him.
$1,000
which honestly we can pull together $1,000 for Dave in like five minutes if he sacrifices it
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Hmm...why not have Dave KEEP the money, and THEN we'll raise a little more for him?
I mean, how hard is it to Paypal a buck or two? I dunno how many committed readers LL and USSM have, but it’s got to be at least somewhere near $1000 worth, right?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Because the point would be to make a big deal about the way that DK won the poll for Mauro
with the understanding that we’d be able to help Dave at least the same amount anyway
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is that this "CollegeScholarship" website DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT
They only care about the webpage hits. I suspect that they’re otherwise shameless.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Assuming it gets publicized.
But then maybe we can take care of that.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I think you overestimate how important LL is
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Other outlets have picked up on this.
Lots of people that share the political outlook of DK find the community insufferable and would enjoy making them look bad.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Because accepting the scholarship validates it and its process
I’m not saying he shouldn’t, that’s entirely his call, but you refuse it out of protest.
Principle.
And we can DWARF that $1000 just on LL alone, and then there’s USSM readers as well.
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I'm pretty sure we could kill that $1,000 easily with $2 donations, honestly
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that if everyone who cared threw in $2-$5
we could get him around $8-10K
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Then we can use $1000 worth of those bills to LINE DAVID MAURO'S HOUSE AND SET IT ON FIRE.
Okay, maybe that’s too far.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
waste of perfectly good money, that is
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To be fair, it also looks better.
God is American money ever ugly. Some of the ugliest currency in the world.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Ultimately it's up to Dave.
I’m fine with whatever he does, but if he wants to send a statement about how stupid this whole process was he could refuse the money and we would then feel even more inclined to take care of him.
well, I'm caught up on the Kos comments
there are a few souls valiantly trying to stem the tide, point out that Dave isn’t inciting the right, is apolitical or even (gasp) “one of us”, but they are just run over by the rising tide. A tide that is tsunamied by Mauro’s own diary today entitled “Freepers are voting against me”
I generally refrain from name-calling but I gotta say
David Mauro is a dick.
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by pdb on Nov 20, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You mispelled 'thunderous cunt'
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
Wow
I have never hated somebody named David Mauro more than I do right now
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This is te most insane thing I have ever seen in my life
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I'M GOING TO TAKE DOWN THE BURNT ORANGE REPORT
I’M GOING TO OVERLOAD THE FUCKING SERVER SO W HENT THEY GO TO AWARD THE MONEY THERE WON’T BE A FUCKING BLOG THERE TO GIVE MONEY TO
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actually wait, would that work?
If we all went there and commented constantly and overloaded his internets would they be unable to award the scholarship when they realize his blog doesn’t exist?
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He's done so much for you guys, in his own destructive way, and yet you deny him like Peter did Jesus.
For shame…
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Is that illegal?
Bullshit
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Why do I have a feeling you're going to go and find out the hard way?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I think it technically qualifies as cyber terrorism.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
To take down Mauro it's totally worth it
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I'll say this much: even if I hate the thunderous cunts over at Kos more than ever, I do also feel I like you morons here on LL more than ever.
When I go on my hobo-killing spree tonight, I’ll be sure to empty their 40s out onto the cracked pavement in honor of you all.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
In my city, their votes count regardless of whether their cast.
Sometimes twice or even three times!
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
They only voted after esoteric killed them.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
You can use the nearest homeless shelter.
(This is actually true.)
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 20, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
We need an open Mauro photoshop/paint thread >:(
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
How quickly a movement becomes a mob.
It’s telling how Mauro’s spike in the polls does not correspond with a spike in Burnt Orange Report’s site visits. People are literally voting because someone on Daily Kos told them to.
Statcorner is but a padawan
and it’s the offseason
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We're actually doing better and better each month
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
think about what will happen when next season starts!
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Your blog has been up for like three months and he's up for a $10,000 blogging scholarship
I’d say you’re doing just fine in comparison
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
The statcorner blog is the best part
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But it's just site updates and things we occaisionally cross-post from LL
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Fun fact: LL is significantly better trafficked than BOR
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 20, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
SHOCKER.
[insert surprise face here, but JI will probably beat me to it.]
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I'm starting to think it's remotely possible we might not win this thing
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If David Mauro unexpectedly falls off the face of the earth tonight does Dave get the money?
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I dunno
I guess we’ll just have to find out toMauro
by Dewey N on Nov 20, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I look forward to baking a cake with a shiv in it
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WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO ILLEGAL
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You do realize that if something happens to Mauro this post will count for PC, right?
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I've got an alibi
I’m posting comments from my computer in Washington State
Not a lot I can do to a guy in Texas
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Plus the police will never realise that the person behind I'm NOT Corco is in fact Corco
by Graham MacAree on Nov 20, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
it's the ol' bait-and-switch at its finest.
Hey, look over there! YOINK
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I knew there was foresight involved when I created this name
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So...I could either go out and strangle hobos tonight, or stay in and listen to Jamie Muir-era live King Crimson
Which option seems more constructive? I leave it to you all to vote.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I think this vote should involved Daily Kos somehow
by seattlebruin on Nov 20, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
nah, it'd just get freeped by those bourgeois baseball "people"
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
So wrong, so very very wrong.
You’re thinking of exactly the era of Crimson that I treasure most.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
We should see if we can raise Cameron's OWN $10,000 scholarship before the other one is finished
It might be a little late in the afternoon to start but that would be awesome
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You know, I love this idea. Show up the blathering bullshitting bitches.
Put your money on the line instead of just foaming at the mouth like a bunch of fucking pansy ass twats who don’t even comprehend they are sheep that don’t deserve to breed. Somebody post on a main page and I’ll pony up.
So I take it you didn't read the previous 2,300 posts in this thread.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Fuck this I'm getting hammered
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by Corco on Nov 20, 2008 4:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
goddammit I just realized this is the second time this thread I've done this
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I am right now
I have been for hours- the thing stores IPs which complicates things. I can’t go into it any further here but your insights would be appreciated in the OT thread
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take it completely off line if you need to talk about it
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There's about a 0% chance of us winning right now
I can only recruit voters so quickly
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Nothing will make me happier than when Michael Snively ends up winning this thing
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I cordially invite David Mauro's mother to blow me
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 20, 2008 4:24 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
It's annoying that we are pulling in votes at exactly the same rate Mauro is right now
roughly once every six seconds
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People are voting for Mauro and Cameron in the same numbers over a given period of time
by DMZ on Nov 20, 2008 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
DailyKos has been my homepage for a long time
Now? I’m too disgusted by its patrons to even bother reading it when I log on.
Fun fact
Last night, the count was
Mauro 12,340
Dave 11,567
Now, it’s
Mauro 19,843
Dave 12,939
So Dave, posting at USSM and picking up a couple more mentions including the two right wing ones, picked up 1.4k votes in a day (and since previous USSM posts ran up his count about 1-2k/each over long periods of time, what help he got from outside is questionable).
Mauro, via the power of Kos links etc, picked up 7.5k.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh.
Totally and unquestionably fair
No reason to question that at all. Mauro is clearly the better blogger.
(ALERJA:LGJ:OIWHQR:OIW: WTF : I HATE KOS!!J:IHEIO#WHROI:J :JFKUDFFUCK EVYEROERTYTINGO:QWQJLKJ!:L)
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In fairness, the night is young
He might pick up a couple negative thousand votes tonight or something.
My..uh..friends
have been doing everything in their power for several hours. My…friends…only process so quickly and my internet is slow
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There's little to be done at this point
The only things that could swing that margin are unacceptable: gain control of a botnet, spend a huge amount of money to hire offshore people to clickfarm, that kind of thing.
All are too expensive
I’d rather just donate the money to the “Give Dave Cameron $10,000 Because his Readers Love Him” fund
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Traffic is actually remarkably cheap
It would be cost-effective to buy it if you were in the scholarship. But that’s way beyond the pale. I probably shouldn’t have even mentioned examples of things that are unacceptable to do.
Unless it's less than $20 I can't afford it
so I won’t be doing it
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Perhaps if you forced a Mauro surrender... through some means
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
and that's the other option
I have no idea how to do this legally
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You should have crashed the site while Dave was leading.
Furcal
by JI on Nov 20, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
I should have done a lot of things while Dave was leading
WIth 5h 11m left there is not a lot left to do
In the first three days of the poll I had no idea DailyKOS was going to attempt to take over the world. I thought Snively and Peters were our competition- not Mauro
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 20, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
Wrong
Pinky and the Brain = Awesome
Mauro and Kos= Not
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This whole thing is fucked up.
Corco, you’re our last hope. Do something.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 20, 2008 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
You're the fucker with straight As
use your nerd power to gain admin access or something instead of whinging about corco not doing enough
by DMZ on Nov 20, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"Freepers Are Voting Against Me! Help Me Win a Scholarship"
Grrrr.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 20, 2008 6:56 PM PST reply actions
All we have left now is change we can believe in.
Indie.
by .Taylor on Nov 20, 2008 7:06 PM PST reply actions
If collegescholarships.org is just chasing traffic
then their best bet now is to say “David Mauro gained the poll and so Cameron wins”
because then Kos will put up a post saying “OMG COLLEGESCHOLARSHIPS.ORG=BAD” and Dave will put up a post saying “Hey, thanks collegescholarships.org for doing the right thing”
Bad press is better than no press, so to me that’s their best bet if they want traffic. Kos isn’t going to plug them if Mauro wins, and knowing Dave he’s not going to mention it if he loses.
Chase the traffic! Take the scholarship from Mauro and give it to Dave!
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HI MY NAME IS DAVID MAURO AND I HAVE MORE T HAN 20 FUCKING THOUSAND VOTES
I SUCK COCKS FOR FUN AND KILL PUPPIES
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At this point I'm not too concerned
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The contest will be over tonight
but the shame of all this namecalling will last forever, preserved on the Internets
I will forever hate Kos
and when I’m a billionaire and David Mauro chases me for a job I’ll say “Fuck you you puppy-eating bitch”
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By then puppy-eating will be a protected act
And you’ll be sued for unlawful discrimination and lose all your money and wind up a hobo who will be killed by someone
By then I'll have developed some sort of anti-hobo forcefield
and I’ll kill David Mauro for being a puppy and kitten eating douche
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Too far for you
exactly right for me if he tries to sue me
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I don't like losing
The blog I support usually wins or gets disqualified. We never lose
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by Corco on Nov 20, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was secretly supporting you guys
I just knew you would win regardless so I figured I’d vote for LL
and then USSM won so I was happy
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at least I get a month named after me
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In 2018 I will have mod powers here and unhide said comments!
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Not true
Jeff/Matthew/Graham will all retire and SBN will look for a replacement and Corco! will rise to the plate and be the proprietor of this fine establishment
By this point I expect the entire community to have disappeared, but I’ve been hanging around the blogosphere as long as there has been a blogosphere so I expect I can pull this off
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I remember when Trident Fever was a premiere blog
and I Wish the Red Sox had 1918 was in my bookmarks
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and Sons of Buhner!
Those guys had potential if they would just have stuck with it
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Labour Day 2009
I highly doubt that
and if it dies by then I will assume modship
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Enjoy never being able to reproduce
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oh holy crap 9:40 time to win this thing
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Early results are not looking so good
I’ve got about 2000 more votes in me and 7000 to make up
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buh?
arc14
Since voters likely only know abouttheir own choice anyway, it isn’t a smear tactic to inform others of some discontent amongst those who are exposed to an author. Some baseball fans get pretty turned off with the heavy-handed style in which the opinions are written. Some don’t appreciate every opportunity being taken to describe those with different ideas or perspectives as stupid. Those are real critiques, that are shared by many in the community. You folks can attribute this apparent loss to the Daily Kos, and I guess that you would be right. There is a certain backlash, however, that has its roots in the community that you guys attempt to bully on a regular basis. I hope Cameron gets his money, and you guys get your wallets out to give it to him.
Certain backlash...
"…as a jerk, I feel redeemed and smugly satisfied that my own smears about someone I hardly know were picked up by others and used as a cudgel to beat him down. "
BTW, what community do “you guys” (us guys?) attempt to bully on a regular basis?
The real scholarship drive starts now
I don’t know if I should have thrown out the matching thing, but…. I don’t know, I felt good about it. I wanted to put in more.
If anything, I’m sorry Ross Taylor didn’t email me directly, since had I
known he was one of the bloggers in contention, I would’ve given him a shout
out as well. And in fact, if he emails me his PayPal address (I hope he has
one), I’ll happily drop $1,000 out of my own pocket to help him out with
college expenses. (And no, I’m not wealthy, so this is actually a big amount
for me.)
But it wasn’t me who turned this into a political proxy battle. The rules of
that contest are idiotic, but being what they are, it makes sense that the
finalists are escalating on the self-promotion front. Cameron may be a great
blogger and all that, but so is Mauro. And I’ll look out for my friend just
like I would’ve looked out for Ross had I been aware he was a contestant.
Ultimately, if you want to know why this escalated, this commenter at USS
Mariner nails it:
http://ussmariner.com/2008/11/20/the-scholarship-vote/
Actually, the idea to enlist right wing blogs did come from USSM or LL. Once
those comments (and subsequent posts at places like Red State) were picked
up by the DK community, it escalated the whole affair.
David Cameron may be a good blogger, but he made a mistake in calling out
Daily Kos on the front page of USSM last week and he got a lot more
attention than he bargained for. He should have stuck to selling himself on
his own merits rather than whining about a “daily kos mob” that didn’t
exist. It was only a few people writing diaries to support David Mauro and
they had significant ground to make up. Once Cameron started publicly
whining about DK — all hell broke loose. Add the comments from some in this
community that you should enlist freeper sites to help Cameron — and you
have a full-on pissing match on your hands over an online poll that was
designed to get as many eyeballs as possible. The real winner of this
contest? Collegescholarships.com who had a huge bump in traffic.
People on both sides have acted poorly. There are some that were
over-the-top at DK. But, it takes two to tango. And some of the behavior
here and other enlisted sites, like LL, has been really vitriolic and fueled
the fire in people who would have otherwise been oblivious to the whole
contest.
Thanks, markos
It's hard to argue with this ...
The rules of that contest are idiotic, but being what they are, it makes sense that the
finalists are escalating on the self-promotion front.
With such a ridiculous selection model, you can’t really blame DK posters for supporting their friend as hard as they can. The contest rewards self-promotion, and does not really reward that promotion coming from people who actually read or enjoy the blogs in question – it essentially measures how many votes a blogger and his friends can bring in, and of course Daily Kos won that contest. It has nothing to do with quality, and it means Mauro is a less worthy winner than our Dave, but aside from claiming a moral victory there’s little to be done. Yeah, Mauro did a lot more shameless self-promotion than Cameron – but if he can live with that, that’s his right. We’ll respect our Dave more as a result.
What you can blame DK for, and what Markos isn’t acknowledging, is that Dave C. got smeared in the process and this turned into an us-against-them holy war well before people (not Dave) joked about enlisting right-wing blogs. All Dave did was have the temerity to tell the truth – that we needed to mobilize because DK voters were voting for ideology, not for quality. That wasn’t wrong. And Ruby and other terrifyingly mind-vacant DK users seized that to paint Dave as the enemy.
This is actually even more depressing for me as a politically progressive guy than as a fan of Dave’s work at USS Mariner. I can accept that the better blog lost a contest with stupid rules. But I don’t want to be at all associated with a group of people who are that prone to group-think – seeing their multiple-daily Group Hate against Dave and anybody who wasn’t one of them made me feel icky to share anything at all with those people. I can say if I ever suffer a lapse of intelligence severe enough to feel the need to talk politics on the Internet, I won’t do it at Daily Kos.
by Chris Hafner on Nov 21, 2008 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 10 recs
By the end of the whole ordeal...
…DK might just as well have accused Dave Cameron of palling around with terrorists. It would have been just as accurate as claiming that he was recruiting help from right-wing blogs.
I love how a few out of context mostly joking comments about us enlisting right wing blogs got so blown out of context
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It doesn't help that the bastion of right-wing extremists on the internet, lookoutlanding.com was in the midst of it all either
by seattlebruin on Nov 21, 2008 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
What bothers me is that this wasn't much of a political proxy battle.
Sure, Dave gained some votes from the Red State stuff, but the vast majority of his votes were from baseball fans and statheads who either know his work and like it, or respect his work because it has influenced other people they like and respect.
Sure, Dave got about 60 votes from one particular free market think-tank, but that was literally me wandering around the office voting from different computers.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
So Cameron should have stuck to selling himself on his own merits
… and that standard doesn’t apply to who Kos supports?
That’s kind of shitty.
Further
I don’t understand exactly how LL contributed to the vitriol, and I mean that seriously: people had to go out of their way to get here and find people frustrated with the voting.
And then that had to be carefully mined to ignore Dave’s comment here and related good stuff, refined into the nuggets of particular frustration, and forged into shiny things people would pay attention to.
Well, whatever.
Not to mention that nobody was paying attention to LL through the whole process except us
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 21, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Every child is a blessing
including the retarded ones
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 21, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
I find it funny how much markos knows and has apparently
thought about this competition.
There are some that were
over-the-top at DK
Obviously, he’s talking here about RubyGal, so he must’ve been going through the diaries himself.
Doesn’t he have better things to do, like assassinate Joe Lieberman by night and invent stories about Sarah Palin’s new love child?
To be fair ...
I think the second half of Markos’ e-mail is a quote from the comment on USSM he references. Everything from “Actually, the idea to enlist right wing blogs …” to “…. oblivious to the whole contest” is quoted from the SpikeKC comment on USSM.
by Chris Hafner on Nov 21, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
"If anything, I’m sorry Ross Taylor didn’t email me directly, since had I known he was one of the bloggers in contention, I would’ve given him a shout out as well"
so he threw the “shout out” without actually bothering to look at the list of nominees or any of their blogs, to see if Mauro was really the most deserving, or that he was in fact NOT “the only progressive” on the list (wonder if he plans to throw money at Kyle, as well)
"I'm sorry Ross Taylor didn't email me directly"
This is an excellent example of the fine art of the non-apology apology. It’s not quite as bald as the insult (“I’m sorry you weren’t able to keep up with my argument?) but it’s a pretty good blame-shifting species (”I’m sorry this other guy made a mistake.")
This is the core of the frustrating mindset. The DK posts were “Vote for Dave Mauro because he’s one of us” when they really should have been “Vote for Dave Mauro … if you enjoy his work and think he’s the best blogger in the competition.”
It’s not really unfair in the rules of the contest, but it’s symptomatic of their mindset.
by Chris Hafner on Nov 21, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh
Worded that badly.
Markos’ reply illustrates the core of that mindset. He would have shouted out others “of us” had he known they were in the contest. And had he actually looked at the contest, he would have known – but instead he lent his weight to his guy and didn’t even bother to give lip service to the fact that other deserving contestants were on the list.
Ugh
And I’m incapable of using the reply button. I’ll step away from the keyboard now.
by Chris Hafner on Nov 21, 2008 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
It all sounded pretty good to me
Other than contributing money directly to Dave, the only other action I can think to take is no action. People that rail and wring their hands, whip themselves into a frenzy, rush from one self made crusade to another drive me nuts. They thrive on attention, words and reaction just fuel their fires. I like to think of them (types like rubygal and arc) alone in a dark space, shouting and venting with no audience. It would be their own little hell.
Not all the commenters on Kos are idiots.
I posted in Mauro’s panicky “freepers are voting against me thread,” and besides the expected RubyGal insults, there were a few non-LL/USSM Kossacks who agreed that something fish was going on.
Rubygal appears to be on the old side, which is pretty sad, considering how dense she comes off. I guess that explains the lack of humor…
Oh, and Markos is a giant, pulsating, douche. Can’t forget that.
You mean Rubygal isn't some 18-year-old who just graduated from high school and picked up some neat buzzwords?
I mean this in all seriousness, I’m surprised.
Apparently, she's pretty old. As in Kathleen-old.
We’re all “disruptive young men.”
What flaming misandry. I feel offended.
So this is all basically my fault.
I think I’m going to retire from the internet.
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