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Take 5 Seconds and Help Dave

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Cameron that is.

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It's rare that you get to help people that deserve help and rarer still when that effort costs you nothing but a few seconds (seriously, you have to click your mouse three times) and actually has a substantial benefit.

And hey, if anyone wants to send me $10K to help pay off my student loans, I'm listening.

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Thanks for pointing that out, Matthew. I hadn't been to USSM in a while.

Dave’s great at what he does, and I was happy to vote. Wish I could do it 5 or 10 times. Wait…..

by royalcurve on Nov 7, 2008 6:46 PM PST   0 recs

Heh

Cameron:285 votes
Snively(?!?!?!):183 votes
Higgins:109 votes
Dingle:46 votes

by Goose on Nov 7, 2008 6:50 PM PST   0 recs

2 hours later:

Cameron:637
Snively:261
Higgins:150

by Goose on Nov 7, 2008 8:50 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Some of the other sites have double USSM's traffic

One of them is a political blog out of the midwest, and the guy currently in second place blogs for M.I.T.’s official admissions page. I would really love to win (seriously, a month into married life, $10,000 would be amazing), but I have a feeling this is going to take a lot of work to beat out a few of these other guys.

by davidcameron on Nov 7, 2008 7:11 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Honestly

Even Corco is no match for an M.I.T. student with a basic knowledge of how to write a poll-bombing script.

I’ve already sent an email to the people running the contest to make sure they’re on the lookout for people gaming the system. Hopefully, it’s a fair fight.

by davidcameron on Nov 7, 2008 7:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

And you sir are correct

I was hammered when I wrote that comment

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 7:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Corco is smarter than you think

With like 12 lines of code we can dominate this asshole

I’m not going to do it, but I certainly could

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 8, 2008 1:21 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Check your local TV schedule

and count how many of the shows involve popularity contests these days and say hello to today’s media culture.

by Matthew on Nov 8, 2008 10:35 AM PST to parent up   1 recs

Well, those shows are designed to grab viewers so they can charge more for advertising.

Does the blog hosting this thing think they can reel in voters to enough of a degree to make money? I honestly don’t know, as I paid zero attention to what kind of site it was.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 9, 2008 8:43 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

The new wife

will have a hard time arguing that USSMariner is a huge waste of time after you win this thing.

by PascoJoe on Nov 8, 2008 4:35 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

We could probably get Athletics' Nation to vote for you, too.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 8, 2008 4:37 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Done and done.

Well, until tomorrow.

Is this a once a day thing, or a one and done poll?

by marc w on Nov 7, 2008 7:23 PM PST   0 recs

Double the others.

Let’s keep it up.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 7, 2008 7:33 PM PST   0 recs

And voted.

Good luck!

by BrianL on Nov 7, 2008 8:00 PM PST   0 recs

Voted.

And Rec’d.

by redwolf75 on Nov 7, 2008 10:44 PM PST   0 recs

Update!

Cameron:1240
Snively:382
Higgins:296
Peters:172
Taylor:148

by Goose on Nov 8, 2008 7:47 AM PST   0 recs

And here comes the sore losers- From the comments on the voting page:
If this contest is based on one’s ability to self-promote and mobilize a voting population for his selfish needs, then David Cameron is your man. I have never before been able to understand so much about an individuals’ personality on the web. His narcissitic and acerbic style literally drips off of the screen. The funny thing about this is that his field of expertise (sabermetrics) is already populated with his type of guy, so for him to stand out in a field so ripe with arrogance really is an accomplishment.

If his blog post regarding an Open Letter is any indication of his ability as an analyst, let’s hope that he does’nt quit his day job. That particular masterpiece was more like an open letter to swiss cheese. If what you strive for is a guy that uses a faulty thesis statement and backs it up with sub-standard statistics, Dave is your man. When he then uses his stat-world to advise on the field behavior, he gets so laughably out of his depth, only his 100 or so sheep at his site keep his head out of the water. I am sure that you all will be hearing multiple times from them, but he has scores of critics in the area who find him to be somewhat of a fraud.

by Goose on Nov 8, 2008 7:52 AM PST   0 recs

I hate people like this

Dave’s not perfect and it’s stupid to pretend he is. But he does know what he’s talking about and he works hard on providing quality content at USSM. I can’t imagine somebody more deserving of a $10,000 scholarship based on their blog

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 8, 2008 7:58 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That's hilarious

If he only has 100 supporters, why does he have 1240 votes?

by Graham on Nov 8, 2008 8:12 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I was his 1500th vote

However, I am sympathetic to that persons drive. Cameron’s personality has always been a huge put-off for me, and I’ve never even posted on his site. I know there are legions of cool-headed people that agree with me.

I must ask: did anyone who voted for Dave give the other contestants a look? Sure, we all love Dave’s contributions, but it would be folly to just ASSUME he is superior to the other contestants, and we all know that once the combined forces of the Mariner’s blogosphere was mustered, the others had no chance without similar exploitation. I’m not trying to start a fight, I understand you all know and respect this man, but a 10K scholarship could literally turn some dudes life around, and it seems like highly destructive behavior to immediately honor Dave with your vote because you’re familiar with him.

Before launches a partisan attack against, I must say that I appreciate the fact that Dave has put some intellectual legitimacy behind Mariner’s related statistical analysis, and the Felix saga was pure victus.

by spittle8 on Nov 8, 2008 10:13 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That's highly irresponsible

There are only a few places in this world where that kind of attitude is tolerated.

by spittle8 on Nov 8, 2008 11:02 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

No shit, in a totally wacko subthread. You said it, dude.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 8, 2008 7:57 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The other argument, not that I disagree with your perspective...

is that by supporting Dave, you’re supporting his work. Do you want to encourage Dave to keep up the great baseball blogging or Snively to keep up the great MIT admissions blogging?

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 9, 2008 8:45 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

did this argument really need to be reopened?

(i’m on your side here, but still)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 9, 2008 8:54 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Dave is a wonderful human being

And unless you’re willing to dig through the archives of every other contestant’s blog, I wouldn’t hold his personality against him.

I’m voting for Dave because USSMariner has done for me than all the other blogs in that contest put together.

by katal on Nov 8, 2008 10:20 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

To be more specific:

One is a blogspot and doesn’t stay on any specific topic.

The other is a decent political blog, but posts few and far between.

With the time and effort that goes into USSM, Dave (and Derek) deserve much more compensation than the 2nd and 3rd place blogs. If they are so good and have so many readers, the vote should indicate it and it does (at least until Snively writes some kind of script and wins on the last day).

by Wilder. on Nov 8, 2008 10:56 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

There are also 600 channels on tv I don't watch, and a bookstore just down the street full of books I'd love to read.

I have a finite amount of time. I know what I like. I feel not one ounce of guilt in the catastrophic consequences on other bloggers by blindly casting my vote for Dave Cameron. Life isn’t fair, suck it.

by dpseadv on Nov 8, 2008 1:54 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I never really got that impression with him.

He seems to always answer my questions politely and is very cool about his opinions. If anything, without getting all political, his blog most reminds me a Countdown with Keith Olbermann, compared to the other blogs/news sources. He does appear biased, but yet he also is very smart and is good about having his facts to back up his point, so its hard not to feel smarter after reading one of his articles.

If anything, I would think DMZ is the one with the big personality, but he is also very knowledgeable as well.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Nov 9, 2008 12:21 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Oh I don't know.

Dave’s problem really isn’t his articles, it’s usually in the comments threads. He has a very short patience for ignorance and stupidity. Not that I blame him, mind you, I’m just saying it’s there. I myself have been on the receiving end of a Dave Cameron snark, and it’s pretty cold upon impact.

DMZ always struck me as the more laid back and humorous of the two. His book, The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball and the subsequent blog are full of whimsical stories and observations.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 9, 2008 2:49 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Dave and DMZ are like yin and yang.

They have their problems separately, but their collective efforts are just awesome.

But speaking from personal experience, every time Dave’s gotten pissed at a commenter, it has been for pretty good reason.

Indie.

by Taylor H on Nov 9, 2008 1:20 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

They're fine on their own

Cheater’s Guide is a fantastic book, and Dave’s musings are the best thing about Fangraphs.

by JI on Nov 9, 2008 1:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

IMHO...

…you haven’t lived in the blogosphere until you’ve been directly whacked by a Dave Cameron snark. How you respond to it shows a heck of a lot more about you than it does Dave…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 14, 2008 1:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

heh.

memmmmmorrrrieeeeees … Dave first told me I was wrong back in, oh, ’98?

you know, when he was about 15….

by msb on Nov 15, 2008 9:05 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I might of have some snark from Dave.

I don’t remember it though. But I definitely remember times where I have received snark from DMZ, afterwards, I’ve learned to stay quiet unless I have something smart to post, and that everything is grammatically and spelt correctly.

by Fin on Nov 16, 2008 12:42 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That's a prefectly cromulent spelling.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 17, 2008 9:59 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

True.

The irregular form isn’t very common in Am. English, so I’ve been taught to avoid it.

by Teej on Nov 17, 2008 11:34 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I would have said this was written by Detect-O-Vision but...

not enough “amigos” in there.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 8, 2008 11:23 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Hmmm...
If you’re not one of his flock of bleating sheep then you might think twice before you vote early and often for Cameron, the scholarship worthy blogger who has blogged that Baseball Prospectus is a "cesspool influenced by a cadre that suck at living as human beings.

This is supposed to sway anyone from voting for him?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 8, 2008 11:55 AM PST   0 recs

I have voted for the guy who will be future Prime Minister.

And I didn’t check out any of the other blogs, I just blindly voted because Graham PM’ed the LL group on facebook. I hope that Dave isn’t the best blogger in the competition – just to upset that douche who posted that whine-fest even more.

If there is one thing this community is good at, it is dominating online polls.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Nov 8, 2008 12:45 PM PST   0 recs

Amen!

Poll domination FTW!

by seattlesundevil on Nov 8, 2008 1:07 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Or just plain domination ftw!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Nov 8, 2008 1:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs