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Take 5 Seconds and Help Dave

Tiny by Matthew on Comment 2549 comments

Cameron that is.

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It's rare that you get to help people that deserve help and rarer still when that effort costs you nothing but a few seconds (seriously, you have to click your mouse three times) and actually has a substantial benefit.

And hey, if anyone wants to send me $10K to help pay off my student loans, I'm listening.

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Thanks for pointing that out, Matthew. I hadn't been to USSM in a while.

Dave’s great at what he does, and I was happy to vote. Wish I could do it 5 or 10 times. Wait…..

by royalcurve on Nov 7, 2008 6:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Cameron:285 votes
Snively(?!?!?!):183 votes
Higgins:109 votes
Dingle:46 votes

by Goose on Nov 7, 2008 6:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

2 hours later:

Cameron:637
Snively:261
Higgins:150

by Goose on Nov 7, 2008 8:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the other sites have double USSM's traffic

One of them is a political blog out of the midwest, and the guy currently in second place blogs for M.I.T.’s official admissions page. I would really love to win (seriously, a month into married life, $10,000 would be amazing), but I have a feeling this is going to take a lot of work to beat out a few of these other guys.

by davidcameron on Nov 7, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

Even Corco is no match for an M.I.T. student with a basic knowledge of how to write a poll-bombing script.

I’ve already sent an email to the people running the contest to make sure they’re on the lookout for people gaming the system. Hopefully, it’s a fair fight.

by davidcameron on Nov 7, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And you sir are correct

I was hammered when I wrote that comment

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 7:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Corco is smarter than you think

With like 12 lines of code we can dominate this asshole

I’m not going to do it, but I certainly could

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 8, 2008 1:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Check your local TV schedule

and count how many of the shows involve popularity contests these days and say hello to today’s media culture.

by Matthew on Nov 8, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, those shows are designed to grab viewers so they can charge more for advertising.

Does the blog hosting this thing think they can reel in voters to enough of a degree to make money? I honestly don’t know, as I paid zero attention to what kind of site it was.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 9, 2008 8:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The new wife

will have a hard time arguing that USSMariner is a huge waste of time after you win this thing.

by PascoJoe on Nov 8, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We could probably get Athletics' Nation to vote for you, too.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 8, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Done and done.

Well, until tomorrow.

Is this a once a day thing, or a one and done poll?

by marc w on Nov 7, 2008 7:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Update!

Cameron:1240
Snively:382
Higgins:296
Peters:172
Taylor:148

by Goose on Nov 8, 2008 7:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And here comes the sore losers- From the comments on the voting page:
If this contest is based on one’s ability to self-promote and mobilize a voting population for his selfish needs, then David Cameron is your man. I have never before been able to understand so much about an individuals’ personality on the web. His narcissitic and acerbic style literally drips off of the screen. The funny thing about this is that his field of expertise (sabermetrics) is already populated with his type of guy, so for him to stand out in a field so ripe with arrogance really is an accomplishment.

If his blog post regarding an Open Letter is any indication of his ability as an analyst, let’s hope that he does’nt quit his day job. That particular masterpiece was more like an open letter to swiss cheese. If what you strive for is a guy that uses a faulty thesis statement and backs it up with sub-standard statistics, Dave is your man. When he then uses his stat-world to advise on the field behavior, he gets so laughably out of his depth, only his 100 or so sheep at his site keep his head out of the water. I am sure that you all will be hearing multiple times from them, but he has scores of critics in the area who find him to be somewhat of a fraud.

by Goose on Nov 8, 2008 7:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hate people like this

Dave’s not perfect and it’s stupid to pretend he is. But he does know what he’s talking about and he works hard on providing quality content at USSM. I can’t imagine somebody more deserving of a $10,000 scholarship based on their blog

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 8, 2008 7:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's hilarious

If he only has 100 supporters, why does he have 1240 votes?

by Graham on Nov 8, 2008 8:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was his 1500th vote

However, I am sympathetic to that persons drive. Cameron’s personality has always been a huge put-off for me, and I’ve never even posted on his site. I know there are legions of cool-headed people that agree with me.

I must ask: did anyone who voted for Dave give the other contestants a look? Sure, we all love Dave’s contributions, but it would be folly to just ASSUME he is superior to the other contestants, and we all know that once the combined forces of the Mariner’s blogosphere was mustered, the others had no chance without similar exploitation. I’m not trying to start a fight, I understand you all know and respect this man, but a 10K scholarship could literally turn some dudes life around, and it seems like highly destructive behavior to immediately honor Dave with your vote because you’re familiar with him.

Before launches a partisan attack against, I must say that I appreciate the fact that Dave has put some intellectual legitimacy behind Mariner’s related statistical analysis, and the Felix saga was pure victus.

by spittle8 on Nov 8, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's highly irresponsible

There are only a few places in this world where that kind of attitude is tolerated.

by spittle8 on Nov 8, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No shit, in a totally wacko subthread. You said it, dude.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 8, 2008 7:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The other argument, not that I disagree with your perspective...

is that by supporting Dave, you’re supporting his work. Do you want to encourage Dave to keep up the great baseball blogging or Snively to keep up the great MIT admissions blogging?

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 9, 2008 8:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

did this argument really need to be reopened?

(i’m on your side here, but still)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 9, 2008 8:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave is a wonderful human being

And unless you’re willing to dig through the archives of every other contestant’s blog, I wouldn’t hold his personality against him.

I’m voting for Dave because USSMariner has done for me than all the other blogs in that contest put together.

by katal on Nov 8, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be more specific:

One is a blogspot and doesn’t stay on any specific topic.

The other is a decent political blog, but posts few and far between.

With the time and effort that goes into USSM, Dave (and Derek) deserve much more compensation than the 2nd and 3rd place blogs. If they are so good and have so many readers, the vote should indicate it and it does (at least until Snively writes some kind of script and wins on the last day).

by Wilder. on Nov 8, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are also 600 channels on tv I don't watch, and a bookstore just down the street full of books I'd love to read.

I have a finite amount of time. I know what I like. I feel not one ounce of guilt in the catastrophic consequences on other bloggers by blindly casting my vote for Dave Cameron. Life isn’t fair, suck it.

by dpseadv on Nov 8, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I never really got that impression with him.

He seems to always answer my questions politely and is very cool about his opinions. If anything, without getting all political, his blog most reminds me a Countdown with Keith Olbermann, compared to the other blogs/news sources. He does appear biased, but yet he also is very smart and is good about having his facts to back up his point, so its hard not to feel smarter after reading one of his articles.

If anything, I would think DMZ is the one with the big personality, but he is also very knowledgeable as well.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Nov 9, 2008 12:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I don't know.

Dave’s problem really isn’t his articles, it’s usually in the comments threads. He has a very short patience for ignorance and stupidity. Not that I blame him, mind you, I’m just saying it’s there. I myself have been on the receiving end of a Dave Cameron snark, and it’s pretty cold upon impact.

DMZ always struck me as the more laid back and humorous of the two. His book, The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball and the subsequent blog are full of whimsical stories and observations.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 9, 2008 2:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave and DMZ are like yin and yang.

They have their problems separately, but their collective efforts are just awesome.

But speaking from personal experience, every time Dave’s gotten pissed at a commenter, it has been for pretty good reason.

Indie.

by Taylor H on Nov 9, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They're fine on their own

Cheater’s Guide is a fantastic book, and Dave’s musings are the best thing about Fangraphs.

by JI on Nov 9, 2008 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IMHO...

…you haven’t lived in the blogosphere until you’ve been directly whacked by a Dave Cameron snark. How you respond to it shows a heck of a lot more about you than it does Dave…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 14, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

heh.

memmmmmorrrrieeeeees … Dave first told me I was wrong back in, oh, ’98?

you know, when he was about 15….

by msb on Nov 15, 2008 9:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I might of have some snark from Dave.

I don’t remember it though. But I definitely remember times where I have received snark from DMZ, afterwards, I’ve learned to stay quiet unless I have something smart to post, and that everything is grammatically and spelt correctly.

by Fin on Nov 16, 2008 12:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a prefectly cromulent spelling.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 17, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

The irregular form isn’t very common in Am. English, so I’ve been taught to avoid it.

by Teej on Nov 17, 2008 11:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would have said this was written by Detect-O-Vision but...

not enough “amigos” in there.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 8, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...
If you’re not one of his flock of bleating sheep then you might think twice before you vote early and often for Cameron, the scholarship worthy blogger who has blogged that Baseball Prospectus is a "cesspool influenced by a cadre that suck at living as human beings.

This is supposed to sway anyone from voting for him?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 8, 2008 11:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I have voted for the guy who will be future Prime Minister.

And I didn’t check out any of the other blogs, I just blindly voted because Graham PM’ed the LL group on facebook. I hope that Dave isn’t the best blogger in the competition – just to upset that douche who posted that whine-fest even more.

If there is one thing this community is good at, it is dominating online polls.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Nov 8, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

American Papist?

Seriously?

Dave needs to win this thing.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 8, 2008 4:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The dude is picking up steam.

Do people only read his blogs on Sunday?

by Wilder. on Nov 9, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting a little worried

Especially since blog traffic is highest on weekdays and it seems like USSM has pulled in most of its votes

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK I've followed Peters for 8 minutes now

His votes aren’t rolling in on any kind of decipherable time interval

He’s legit I guess

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

curiously on the 2nd and 5th minute

votes rolled in at exactly 5, 25, and 45 seconds into the minue though

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see Dave win

I’m also capable of being completely obsessive about stuff and if this is how I can put that to good use that’s what I’ll do

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Done. And commented.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 8, 2008 5:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Baker's the man

and it’s time to rally- Dave is slipping- he has less than half the vote total again

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 8, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes yes yes this is one of the best comments of all time!
I rarely agree with USS Cheater’s Guide on anything, but if my vote will help another American get an education, and on the road to responsibility, I have no problem doing that. We’re going to need all the taxpayers we can get for the next 4-8 years.

Dave gets Mr. X’s vote because he’s an American!

by seattlebruin on Nov 9, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Voted

If I could figure out how to summon a legion of Mapusauruses and train them to devour Dave’s competition I would.

Alas, I can’t even get even get into the Mages Guild in Oblivion.

by Frosty Raptor on Nov 8, 2008 6:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was going to feel sorry for the runners-up...

Then I read that butthurt comment. Sympathy is amazingly easy to send down the garbage disposal.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 8, 2008 11:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am glad to hear this.

And I know, from going to college, how hard it is to go through school and making money at the same time, so a $10,000 scholarship in any case should be a big boost. If anything I think Dave should be making at least Baker’s salary, but I guess life isn’t fair.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Nov 9, 2008 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The comments thread in the voting page are fantastic.
Oh yes Brennon, a sports analysis blog. How droll indeed. To think that the plebeians who follow something so barbaric as sport could get $10,000 for simply writing about it is utterly preposterous.

by Goose on Nov 9, 2008 7:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

YES

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that's my comment!

I can’t help my snarkiness sometimes, especially in regards to someone insulting a sports I like.

by DKCecil on Nov 15, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I monitored them for 8 minutes earlier after suspecting it

refreshing every five seconds on two different computers

I noticed no trend. Please hold as I ch eck again

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

4 minutes of monitoring yields no discrepancies

vote at following intervals

Minute 1: 22, 47
Minute 2: 38
Minute 3: 6, 28
Minute 4: 14, 37

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 9, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We have to get more votes from somewhere.

PZ Myers put a link up promoting Brian Switek. His whole blog seems to be about poll crashing some days, and the people who read it follow (pun alert) religiously. We’re about to be in a world of hurt when the people start reading him at work.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 10, 2008 5:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Athletics Nation? DRB?

or, possibly the busiest site of all, Bluebird Banter

And what about about Field Gulls?

by seattlebruin on Nov 10, 2008 6:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It got a mention in Deadspin this morning

and Dave’s vote count is north of 4000 now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 10, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh good.

And it looks like it was posted on a weekend and got buried.

Now to hope that he doesn’t post midweek.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 10, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

I didn’t think that any heavy hitters would post on our side, and I know how PZ likes to poll-bomb.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 10, 2008 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've posted it on DRB twice and it's been on BTB twice since Saturday.

Not much more I can do, but I’ll probably post once more before voting ends if things get close.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 10, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If this ends up getting close

I can take it to a message board I frequent: theboreds.com. it’s the opposite of sports related, but it’s a a website where I have enough good standing that if I make a post about it, people will vote just cuz I tell them too. I could probably get about 50-100 votes from it? Maybe?

Is it worth it?

by mariners124m on Nov 10, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh's

The Orange Satan (Daily Kos) put up a link for the only progressive blogger on the list David Mauro. They get like 2 million hits a day, that could be bad. I checked when I saw it around 8:00pm on mon. 11/10 and david still had a convincing lead, but it would only take a small percentage of Kos readers to swing it.

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Nov 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah holy balls

He jumped from nothing to 1500 votes today

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 10, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well shit.

Daily Kos spent the entire primary season encouraging their users to flood online polls.

by BrianL on Nov 10, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Corco might have to dispatch his network of sub-Corcos

Not the poll gaming sub-Corcos but the other ones

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 10, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I am NOT engaging in any dirty tactics here- that’s not fair to Dave

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 10, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Shame on Markos

USSM being a sister site to this SBN blog should have made him think differently.

by katal on Nov 10, 2008 11:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we can get him to plug USSM too

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 10, 2008 11:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alternatively before coming to Jeff to run the SBN blog

He could have gone to DMZ and Dave who declined saying they didn’t want to sell out to SBN and since then Kos has disliked them

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 10, 2008 11:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave has a sizable lead, but Mauro went from last to second quickly.

Let’s hope the DailyKos readers forget about that plug.

by Wilder. on Nov 12, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe...

…if you can egg them on in a blog fight between Balloon Juice and Talk Left…..

by rtang on Nov 12, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Voted.

Dave has put in so much work to USSM over the years he truly deserves this.

When does voting end? I can probably swing a few more votes his way…

by Omerta on Nov 12, 2008 6:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Mauro is good

I’d vote for Dave if I didn’t happen to read his USSM thread comments from time to time.

by Garces on Nov 14, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Matthew, I sent StatCorner $20 a couple days ago.

That should cover at least three minutes of classtime at Penn.

by Teej on Nov 14, 2008 2:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for all you do, Jeff

I’m gonna find a new blog to read, though.

This place has become way too Phredmojo for me to stick around.

by Garces on Nov 15, 2008 11:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Your original comment was not deleted, but mistakenly hidden

as a part to try and clean up this thread to keep it on topic. When it was noticed, it was unhidden and your comment re: deletion was hidden because it no longer applies. If you have further complaints, please take them up via e-mail or in a separate, dedicated topic.

Thank you.

by Matthew on Nov 15, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

There’s a diary on the rec list at Daily Kos, urging people to vote for Mauro. Considering DK’s traffic, I don’t like Dave’s odds.

by katal on Nov 15, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Christ they're flooding the poll.

I don’t know how you can combat Daily Kos traffic.

by BrianL on Nov 15, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least the diary was on the rec list

during the middle of a Saturday. Cameron’s still ahead. DailyKos freeping that poll (to use a term of theirs) could have been a lot worse.

by katal on Nov 15, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It bothered me when they did this during primary season.

It really bothers me that they’re doing this with $10,000 at stake.

by BrianL on Nov 15, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to stop here

before I find myself delving into politics.

by katal on Nov 15, 2008 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That just means more people here need to help out.

If you participate on other fora or message boards, post there. Do what you can.

by Matthew on Nov 15, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and also

Not everyone who reads DK is an assured Mauro fan. DK has a wide audience and not everyone among them likes the same people. So don’t think Dave’s chance are DOA because everyone on DK is going to help Mauro not. Not necessarily so.

by Gomez on Nov 15, 2008 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

While treading the ZOMG no politics line

I’ll admit I starting reading DK during this last election cycle. I usually like that website, now it’s weird because it’s suddenly the enemy. I know my loyalties

by mariners124m on Nov 15, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it has been interesting ...

to see the same sort of voice moving from blog to blog (or thread to thead on a blog) complaining about Dave and his cruel suppression of dissenters. I see that the DailyKos complaintant arc14 signed up on KOS just to lodge his nay vote.

by msb on Nov 15, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Where can we get more votes!?

by mariners124m on Nov 16, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got an idea

I can’t tell you what it is but I can tell you it is completely legal and ethical

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 11:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

never mind, it's not actually legal or ethical

But I will not sleep until Dave Cameron is back in the lead legally and ethically

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I need a list of Daily Kos's most hated blogs

If we can get people who hate Daily Kos to vote against David Mauro and for David Cameron, that would be good

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually this is stupid

There has to be a better way that keeps USSM classy

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now that you've finished

Washingtonhighways.org, maybe a next venture would be to catalog every publicly available wi-fi hotzone and submit a vote for Dave from each one?

by naviomelo on Nov 16, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh good idea

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is Free Republic still around? Little Green Footballs? Michelle Malkin?

I love DailyKos, but I’m completely willing to subvert in order to help Dave Cameron.

by katal on Nov 16, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Try HotAir, too.

Damn, I’m way more current on conservative blogs in Canada (given that I work for the vast right-wing conspiracy).

Any blog that talks about FreedomFest is probably opposed to everything DailyKos does.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 17, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've voted from my own computer

And from several computers in my school’s computer labs.

Also, any chance we could still get a plug from Nate Silver?

by mariners124m on Nov 15, 2008 10:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, Dave.

Two weeks is way too long of a time for a poll like this.

by Wilder. on Nov 16, 2008 11:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nobody reads BOR

This is retarded.

by Jeff on Nov 16, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes! There is

And Dave Cameron is still going to win this thing.

Have faith

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly, you remind me of the folks I knew who kept saying that The Other Guy was somehow going to win the election.

This observation has nothing to do with political valences, and everything to do with the natural human inclination to find hope in even the unlikeliest of circumstances.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But their template is very similar to LL 1.0

I miss that

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss Michael Snively

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We need to get the Citizen Orange blogger (also a Kos participant) to plug himself on Kos too

If the remaining Kos votes get split between him and Mauro then Dave could come back and rally

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 5:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How about

Corco game’s the poll so mauro wins, in a very obvious way

This way, they will think Mauro is the cheater, and either two things will happen
1. They DQ him, and give it to second place Dave
2. They cancel/start fresh on the poll

As far as option two goes, if we can’t win, why should anyone!

by mariners124m on Nov 16, 2008 7:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Did that work the LAST time you tried to Freep an online poll?

There are a number of reasons this is a very dumb idea, aside from the “let’s not stoop to someone else’s level” one.

by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not doing anything illegal or immoral or unethical

Without the express written permission of Dave Cameron. As soon as he authorizes it I’ll do it, but he’s not going to do that. Don’t worry.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(We’re closing the gap with your grassroots help. We’ll be adding on more to this effort as the November 20 deadline nears but be sure to help support one of our own, and the only progressive politics blogger up for this! – promoted by Karl-Thomas Musselman)

Spamming Kos with diaries qualifies as receiving “grassroots help”?

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 7:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes he does

Just hold your head up high and hope for the best

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 7:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But if Mauro is overly unstoppable

or if we can split his remaining votes with Citizen Orange, also a progressive Kos participant who chose not to participate in active campaigning on principle, or some other nice tricks

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 7:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Our best bet is to mass write the authors of the scholarship explaining how stupid this has become

and hope they cancel the poll and use more reasonable means of judgment

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 7:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the scholarship should be determined by the number and quality of well thought-out e-mails they get

explaining why [Insert blogger here] deserves to win the $10,000.

Eh I can dream.

by BrianL on Nov 16, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Too much work for the college scholarship site.

This method is easier, for pretty obvious reasons.

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They should make it a lot harder to vote

If everyone who voted had to sign up for an account to vote then only people who really cared would vote

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 16, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very good point corco.

I doubt any of the Kos people would have gone to that effort.

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That'd be nice if we somehow mobilized some conservative blogs/sites

against Kos, and had them vote for Dave. Probably impossible though.

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And it would be stooping to Mauro's level.

Most, no, the vast majority of the people voting for Mauro have no idea who he is. Almost all of Dave’s votes however most likely come from people who are familiar with Dave’s great work at ussmariner (along with DMZ, of course).

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, again, I love DK

But this is retarded. Like redwolf said, spamming isn’t grassroots. Voting in an online poll hardly counts as grassroots. If DK readers want to feel like they’re being all subversive and “grassroots”, this isn’t the way to do it.

by katal on Nov 16, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mob mentality

I made one last post in the thread, but that’s it. Some people can’t be reasoned with.

by katal on Nov 16, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This one is priceless

And she’s referencing this endorsement of Dave: http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=2984

Well, I must say that I am rather ticked off, especially at the description of Daily Kos by the above referenced hockey blogger…really..I doubt I will ever watch another hockey game..

This is not a communist political blog..and I resent the McCarthyist nasty ugly comment by this supporter of David Cameron. Really, if Cameron thinks he is worthy of this scholarship, the blogger referenced above must apologize to the entire Daily Kos community…


This person by the way is the one who’s been spamming the Kos with Mauro diaries.

Ok, I am officially DONE quoting and linking Kos content.

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 9:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And the funny thing is that Mauro's lackey, "RubyGirl," is

citing it as an example that Dave is apparently getting other people to “push” votes for him. Notwithstanding the fact that Dave has most likely never even heard of this hockey website, I doubt he got more than 5 votes from the endorsement, considering the low site traffic.

It’s annoying to think Dave is losing this competition due in no small part to the efforts of this person.

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but not particularly surprising.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 17, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hehe, you're the hockey blogger

who supported Dave/

Mauro’s surrogate loves you.

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's a bit mindblowing

I hope it doesn’t cause Dave Cameron any problems with this. He has no idea who I am, I’m just a baseball fan (on the side) who likes his writing. I’d like to think I could kick more than five votes his way though. I’ve been name dropped by Ron MacLean on HNiC, damn it.

The best part it is, it was sort of tongue in cheek AND (to the extent that his Canadian support mattered) I was an Obama guy. Her response to it indicates virtually everything that’s wrong with politics though and people who take it seriously.

(He’s the host of HNiC, you damned heathens.)

(It means Hockey Night in Canada.)

by mc79hockey on Nov 17, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still prefer Don Cherry

But that’s neither here nor there.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can always go on Daily Kos and do the same thing.

It’s not like there is a law against using the same tactic.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Nov 16, 2008 11:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In the words of "Kossacks"
way..it feels like a race between progressive blogging and baseball..I want progressive blogging to win, because in this day and age, we are going to need more of what David Mauro does rather than what Cameron does..

blogger beat nearly 200,000 Kossacks?

Jeez. You know THOSE guys really are in their mom’s basements wearing pajamas and eating Cheetos.

Person; Who is David Cameron?
Person who is spamming Mauro diaries:
I don’t know, but he is from North Carolina…

He’s from North Carolina! It means Dave is a redneck neonazi!

Honestly, I want to get Cameron…I don’t have anything against him..it is just that sports blogging is way too bourgeois for this day and age..you should get that scholarship..

Bourgeoisie? Are you kidding me?

In response to an extremely lucid post from a supporter of Dave:

Actually, this is a Seattle supporter of David Cameron..sports is big in Seattle, there is no doubt about that..but this is ridiculous..someone on last night’s diary said that David Cameron’s minions would be coming out to intimidate us..but if this is the best they can do..well pffff..

by redwolf75 on Nov 16, 2008 8:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For such a liberal website, how are they not willing to accept a liberal sports analysis blog?

(not in terms of politics, but in terms of thinking)

Seems rather hypocritical.

by Wilder. on Nov 16, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Polls tied to contests bring out the worst in the internet

Mauro will win. He doesn’t deserve it. It doesn’t matter.

by Gomez on Nov 16, 2008 10:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For the fifth straight year, thank you for hanging out. LL isn’t LL without its community, and while the website has its little flaws, there is no other site on the Internets to which I’d rather belong. I love this place. Even when I don’t.

by Robert on Nov 16, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Barely.

I recall a blog entry recently where he mentioned taking himself out of the loop, except for being on the board. Politics and dKos is really his true love in the online world.

by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They are up to about 21 diaries and stories now on Kos

I’m still trying to figure out how Dave is perceived as self-promoting (aside from his self-deprecating headline) for asking for help on his own site, and Mauro, who has put up several diaries and solicited more, is not ….

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 7:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

oh. for petesake.

“wow…amazing, because the baseball blogger had already launched a campaign with other sports bloggers includint the Seattle Times and our effort here has been rather modest..I am amazed that we are moving ahead like this..it is a tribute to the fairness of Daily Kos.”

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 7:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is one thing to go around and promote on other sites, it is another to constantly spam on a high traffic site.

And I can’t believe this Rubygal thinks needing more politicians in this world is more important than someone like Dave who is actually making a difference in educating his readers.

by Wilder. on Nov 17, 2008 8:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm as pissed off as everyone else that Dave's not going to make this

But there is nothing (nothing!) wrong with what Mauro’s supporters are doing. It’s an online poll, and gaming them is what happens. We’d do exactly the same thing, I suspect.

All this shows is that polls are stupid.

by Graham on Nov 17, 2008 8:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think it is the attitude that they are the little engine that could

and that they are helping a modest young man (you know, the one who actively campaigned on their site, asking to smurf the poll) vs that evil yet irrelevent sports guy who is getting the blogosphere to gang up on them and their choice of winner.

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, their attitude is entirely bullshit

But polls enable these morons, soooo…

by Graham on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Polls mean democracy works! Sports is bourgeois!

Clicking a button is affirming my belief in democracy!

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree.

However, I am going to mobilize some rather large forces in hopes of helping Dave.

by Sec 108 on Nov 17, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Y'know...
Read DMZ and Dave’s comments here

and tell me with a straight face that what they want you to do is to be the baseball blogger version of Daily Kos.

by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see anything wrong with what Sec 108 is doing

Dave is better than Mauro already even based on those comments. Dave didn’t ask for large forces he doesn’t know to be mobilized, Mauro actively sought out people who don’t know his work at all.

Sec 108 mobilizing large forces is OK, Dave doing it is not. Mauro doing it is not.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Er...

The BOR blogger in question part of the bigger dKos community, so it’s not like he was talking to a bunch of strangers. Granted, people have taken this too far- but I don’t think the response should be “let’s smurf a poll because other people are doing it”.

One of the things Dave pointed pout with pride in that thread is that his votes were from USSM and people familiar with his work. If someone thinks trashing that is worth $10,000 to him, someone might at least do the courtesy of ASKING him if that’s what he wants first. I tend to think not.

by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not doing what Dave and DMZ want me to do.

Sorry, but just because I respect someone’s work does not mean they get to tell me how to live my life.

I have my own reasons for wanting Dave to get that scholarship. What I have done and will do is in no way illegal or even similar to what may be happening at Daily Kos.

by Sec 108 on Nov 17, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I invoked Croatia. Hopefully that will make a difference.

Also started a campaign through myspace. Though that’s only good for a 100 or so…

by coolguyrob on Nov 17, 2008 10:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and...

Check out what the OTHER dKos blogger had to say about his nomination:

I guess this is when I’m supposed to mobilize everyone I know to vote for me, or I could just use the tricks that the nativist folks at ALIPAC are fond of which allow you to vote multiple times in polls like these. That’s just not me though.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m grateful for being selected as a finalist. Also, the $10,000 would be extremely helpful to me, especially at this time. I just don’t feel that it’s right to mobilize whatever online power I’ve accumulated over the past years to win $10,000.

I blog for migrants, and by extension for a world where everyone truly is born with the same opportunities. I am grateful for whatever support I receive in that quest, but it just doesn’t feel right to advertise myself over the online connections I’ve forged for other purposes.

by eponymous_coward on Nov 17, 2008 11:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to see how things went down, Dave.

You’ve been quite honorable through the whole thing. As stupid as the idea of holding a poll is, you had good reason to get your hopes up because you have a big (and actually legitimate) following, and you have every right to be frustrated by how you ended up falling behind.

At least you know that most of the people who voted for you actually read your stuff.

by Teej on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

frustrating, too

because between the gal who keeps popping diaries up at dKos without actually reading any of the competition (as well as blindly accepting anything she is told about both them, and Dave) and entries from arc14 (who sounds as though he has never recovered from being moderated on USSM) there is a lot of misinformation that might keep dKos folks form actually looking at, and enjoying USSM.

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good man.

We are with you all the way.

by Wilder. on Nov 17, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave is closing the gap

He’s gone from -750 votes to -250 votes

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 2:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Too fast! Too fast!

The problem any vote drive faces at this point is that actions that get Dave past the other Dave could provoke a front page Kos mention and thus drive another ~9,000 votes towards other Dave.

If someone was gaming this and wanted to be smart, they’d be looking at sniping.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I expected

But Dave got about 15 votes in 30 seconds a couple minutes ago

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

People love Dave.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As they should

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do I detect schenanigans?

Derek… I’m so proud.

Dave can have his principles. I want blood.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What? No.

Not me, anyway. So if you’re counting on me to produce more than my vote in order for Dave to win, that’s not going to do it.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So yeah, just keep that in mind if you’re hiring a bot network or commissioning traffic off the digital point forum service board or something. Because the Kos people already got all the proxies early (it’s on one of the earlier diaries).

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that when I was attempting to rig up some sort of alternate plan yesterday

But I’ve got an idea should all fail and I get necessary authorization (or unspoken authorization)

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The house of Mauro appears to have awoken

Dave within 67

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

FOR FRODO!

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

55 votes

Mauro is still asleep

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

42 votes

I’m almost looking forward to the Kossack reaction once they realize. It’s probably better to just lay low for a few days like DMZ suggested

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember what I said earlier (on a post no longer around) about drinking right after getting home from work?

Yeah, so I confused you to.

The funny thing is…even as I wrote the post, I was saying to myself “FUCK, was it Matthew or Graham? Jesus why do their names have nearly the same amount of characters in them?”

Folks, alcohol is a hell of a drug.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I confused you *two

Once more: alcohol is a hell of a drug.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As for gaming, I would really only consider IP spoofing to be truly foul "gaming"

As for getting everyone you know and care about to vote? Well they wouldn’t have made this an internet poll if that weren’t priced into the darn contest.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and OMG IF YOU GO TO EVERY PROXY SERVER ON THE INTERNET

the vote was for… DAVID MAURO!

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not true

I voted using two proxies before DK even got involved

(Sorry)

by mariners124m on Nov 17, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

30 votes

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

15 votes

I’m bummed I’m probably going to be away from the computer when Dave wins

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If this was a Rays-Sox gamethread and you had posted something like this about the game

You’d have been boxed in a fucking heartbeat.

Don’t get cocky kid. Still two days left.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I used the wrong word there

That was stupid

I meant when Dave passes Mauro

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know this is unhealthy and irrational, but...

…whoever “RubyGal” is, I’ve suddenly developed an intense disgust for her.

But then the internet does that to people.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To reiterate: it's not her politics that irk me

It’s her imperviousness to logic. Look at the calm, sane counterarguments being offered in those various threads. (“Hey, stop smearing Dave Cameron, he hasn’t gotten down in the gutter about this at all!”) And then look at her stone-faced “nothing penetrates my consciousness” brush-off responses.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would love, LOVE

to sit her down and force her to read this until her eyes bleed.

Actually I’d love to make her read this as well.

by BrianL on Nov 17, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The beautiful thing about formal logic is that it's brutally non-partisan.

Used properly, it utterly decimates bullshit arguments on the left, right, center, and all points elsewhere. A man with an understanding of inductive and deductive logic can usually destroy all comers when it comes to reasoned debate.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

She's a goddamn idiot

and set Dave up perfectly to take the high road

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody say anything

Just… keep doing what you’re doing.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 4:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So how bout them Yankees?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hell of a deal they got for Swisher there.

I’m doing my part. Quietly and honestly.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh. Submitted without comment, from the vote page.

USSM and Lookout Landing are the two best baseball blogs on the internet, hands down. Even with that no-good rebel Graham, and his uncontrollable angry Slant-Rants. He belongs on a womens golf blog.

By The_Marinator on November 16th, 2008

by BrianL on Nov 17, 2008 4:47 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Well let's be fair here.

Graham is sort of a femme, after all. I mean, the accent is a dead giveaway right?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But he did vote for Dave C. So give him that.

Wonder what that ASUBoyd guy did….

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's almost not-funny

Since I had close friends that died in 9/11 too.

But…given the context and background (I know the story), I still deem this to be outrageously, tastelessly funny.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Fuck that. Shout it out!

A day ago I thought this thing was in the bag for Mauro. This has me revitalized. Back to Facebook!

by Teej on Nov 17, 2008 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This thing is FAR from won

I don’t think the winner will be decided until late on the 19th

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 5:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ZOMG NO POLITICS

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 5:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing to do with partisanship on either side.

Just a carnival-zoo of an vote-counting, is all.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 5:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I know

I just don’t get to say it very often

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

STFU

jinxing bastard.

No lead is safe.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh please, oh please, oh please

Make it happen. Make this happen.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please Jeff

Make my life

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lookout Landing is a right-wing blog!

Congratulations. I expect your traffic numbers to jump dramatically

One last bit of news, some of Cameron’s supporters (not Dave) have enlisted the aid of right-wing blogs to inflate his totals. Looking (out-Landing) at your links, you probobly know of the plan already, Engelwood.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 5:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I’m so sorry this has been miserable for Dave, but goddamn this is so amusing.

by BrianL on Nov 17, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just feel shitty for everyone involved.

I read Mauro’s blog, and I liked it. I want Dave to win, but it sucks that this has turned into such a ridiculous flamewar between two camps that have absolutely no reason to dislike each other.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 17, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It's so hilariously fucked up

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This guy isn't RubyGal.

He’s some random troll who’s been smearing Dave on Kos.

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a very good point.

It should be in Jeff’s irresistable nature to take the low road for these very reasons.

After all, what is Lookout Landing if not USS Mariner’s horrifying Freudian id?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:00 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

For the sake of LL's future I beseech you to take the high road.

let the rest of us do the mucking around in the cesspool.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 17, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Worse case scenario is Jeff loses his Kos affiliation

We can subsidize his fat ass if necessary

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

She's just not worth it.

I can safely say that given the circles I run in, the town I grew up in and the college I attended that I have met several hundred RubyGal analogues. She’s an idiot that has her mind made up about something and is incapable of listening to reasonable arguments against her position. Flaming her will do nothing but piss of the more annoying elements of Kos. It’s not worth it and could prove to be counterproductive.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 17, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The humor involved would be worth it.

This contest is going to be a crapshoot until Friday so if Jeff wants to go have fun on Kos he should

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you can’t slander anonymously on the internet

where can you do it?

Do it. No one will ever know.

Furcal

by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please Jeff

People like me need to not do it to because I’ll just make it worse. But you can make it hilarious. You’re our only hope

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to flame her

I can’t even think of what I’d write. All I can come up with is a comment subject of “Listen, funbags”.

by Jeff on Nov 17, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Already it's gold.

Why is it that my girlfriend goes instantly cold-fish on my when I used the term “funbags?” I think it’s a perfectly respectable word.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I recommend "dirty dyke"

and other lesbian slurs. Bonus points for plausibly mentioning in passing how she lieks to gets abortions.

Furcal

by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't she a liberal?

Her sig says Obama 08.

Indie.

by Taylor H on Nov 17, 2008 6:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm...you do realize the site we're talking about is the DAILY FUCKING KOS, right?

Therefore your question is hilariously clueless.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget it Jake - it's Taylortown.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WRONG.

ONCE MORE, YOU MUST BE WELL-CRAFTED FLAME.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For the record, it's a riff on the classic Jack Nicholson film "Chinatown"

Directed by Roman Polanski, who I’m certain you’ve never heard of either.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like both.

I guess I’ve disqualified myself from life.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to wonder what the administrators of the survey are thinking right now

I also wonder what the vote numbers were like in previous years

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad they don't have more ads

They might have been able to pay for the whole scholarship in ad revenue

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

New Kos diary

that took long enough

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

At least it's no longer negative.

I think we got Mauro to can RubyGirl.

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 6:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good for him

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ah

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Note to firefox users.
If you can locate your IE browser you may be able to vote twice, I did!

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 6:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that's true

I’ve received email from people @ USSM that says “hey, I can’t vote from work, it just shows the results” — I think they’re doing 1 IP, 1 vote, even if it’s a corporate proxy or whatever.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was only able to get two votes off at the whole University

one from the wireless network and one from the wired- all the lab computers returned that it had already been voted for

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, should have clarified that quote.

That was from a random commenter.

I thought it was funny as it was completely wrong.

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m just trying to spare people from wasting time trying it.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 6:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Worked for me

That was nice of them

by SkipT on Nov 17, 2008 6:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did the vote count go up, though?

They make take the vote and not count it.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I switched browsers

There was no option to vote

Furcal

by JI on Nov 17, 2008 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a joke

I came across it in one of the early, pretty… frenzied? Kos threads, someone posted a joking “sure hope nobody does this…” suggestion (with URL) for proxy use. I checked it out and lo and behold, the page was already “vote results”.

Corco seems to have had the same experience checking different ones.

by DMZ on Nov 17, 2008 6:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ye gods. Now I'm really angry.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of unholy war would be unleashed

if you banned DMZ from here…?

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 17, 2008 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...a LL/USSM flamewar

If I wasn’t personally invested in both sites, and could approach it from the perspective of, say, an Angels fan…that would be the most wonderful thing ever.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now apparently Dave is enlisting the support of right wing blogs

to his cause. They’re “going to make diaries this.”

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 6:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Link?

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the troll who brought it up

RubyGirl then proceeded to say she’d make diaries about it. It’s buried in there somewhere.

by redwolf75 on Nov 17, 2008 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That troll was the guy who was in the actual voting page thread (under the name "Happy Camper") pissing all over Cameron too

There’s obviously some strange personal crusade going on there.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered if it was AKwhatever

who used to pop up on the Times blog to rail about the inequities of USSM

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

unless I mis-read it, following his name link

arc14 also signed up just to slam Dave, much like those who joined to praise him

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't have the strength to register a few days ago

and now I’d just be accused of signing up just to disrupt them …. but I have so wanted to ask just how Dave asking for votes on his own site equates to Mauro emailing KOS personally, then putting up a diary asking them to smurf the poll, and then he and the acolyte(s) putting up (at last count) 24 diaries asking for votes.

of course, Ruby (who is from Seattle, sadly) would blow right past the question (and assume that I was an Evil Sexist Male Troll while doing it) and once again accuse Dave of inciting his readers across the blogosphere

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 6:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The thing that bothers me most about that

is that I posted a FanShot at Beyond the Boxscore quite literally seconds after I read Dave’s USSM post. No one asked me to do it, no one asked Sky to bump it to the front page, no one asked RJ to post it at DRB, and no one asked anyone else to do anything, other than vote. RubyGal just doesn’t seem willing to accept that.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 17, 2008 6:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well-crafted flame.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No. Ironically enough I actually remember thinking to myself, earlier on in the thread...

…“huh, Taylor’s not doing so bad here. Maybe he’s growing up.”

And then it all went downhill.

Look, I’ll be your biggest supporter when and if you ever get your shit together. I was the same way with Coach. But until then, expect a merciless flaying. Consider it tough love, my friend.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is very fair. Sorry for being rude to you.

I kind of disobeyed the 30 second rule this thread.

Indie.

by Taylor H on Nov 17, 2008 8:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rest assured I am not.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though we said we wanted him to have a chance to fit in

and he didn’t make a new userID (which is fine) but still you don’t have to take a perfectly fine post from the kid and bait him into doing something stupid. The point isn’t whether or not he should know better than to take the bait, it’s that you should know better not to bait him.

by Fogel on Nov 18, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So which of you fuckers is Englewood?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Englewood sounds like Inglewood

So I’m guessing a member of LLouth.

by Robert on Nov 17, 2008 6:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What the fuck is PLU Tim doing?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oh never mind

He’s a Kos regular

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well, the nice thread with no mention of 'the competition' is no longer that way

" Thank you for posting this diary..we need to get (1+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
    ypsiCPA

busy..the Cameron minions who have come to Daily Kos within the last week have been freeping the right wing blogs to push David Cameron’s numbers up..nothing wrong with baseball bloggers..but our guy is a progressive blogger..

The right wingers are posting some nasty stuff..I think we need to really put this in perspective. Do we want right wingers to do this to our guy?? or do we work to get our guy back in first place.??

I say … let’s get our guy back into first place..

Obama ’08

by RubyGal on Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 06:47:57 PM PST"

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 6:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ladies and gentlemen, witness a certain type of mind in action:

We are no longer mere supporters of Cameron…no, we are now right-wingers. Right-wingers! Why? Because people are eloquently and remarkably politely defending Cameron from slanders…all while praising Mauro and saying he’s a fine blogger and a deserving candidate too!

But some people need to have easily-defined enemies, I guess. Right wing death beasts, liberal moonbats, godless heathens, oppressive fundamentalists, whatever…ultimately the labels say a heck of a lot more about the person using them than about who they’re directed at.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no, it's because he enlisted the right-wingers

and obviously no self-respecting liberal would come onto dKos to support the non-progressive blogger.

I fear that if Rubygal were not a dem, she’d have been one of those ready to believe every lie spread about the President Elect

by msb on Nov 17, 2008 7:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, I've seen this on both sides of the aisle.

It’s absolutely not unique to one type of leaning or another. Honestly, I think it has far more to do, for any given person, with which party holds (or is perceived to wield) power at the time.

I believe it’s known as Jane’s Law: “The devotees of the party in power are smug and arrogant. The devotees of the party out of power are insane.”

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Incredibly late

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Donde?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 7:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bitches

I love you

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 7:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

YOU ARE THE FUCKING MAN

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 7:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LINK LINK LINK

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PLEASE

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FOUND IT.

GREAT.

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 7:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

REC THIS DIARY UP FULL TILT BOOGIE

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by esoteric on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Register to rec it

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Working email (check for typos):

How condescending

Furcal

by JI on Nov 17, 2008 7:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can you rec if you've just signed up?

I signed up about 2 months ago but forgot my username so yeah

by Nick S on Nov 17, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply