Awful Name Value Team
C: Paul Lo Duca
1B: Paul Konerko
2B: Luis Castillo
SS: Mike Young
3B: Chone Figgins
LF: Pat Burrell
CF: Ken Griffey Jr.
RF: Jose Guillen
DH: Travis Hafner
SP: Barry Zito
SP: Daisuke Matsuzaka
SP: Justin Verlander
SP: Livan Hernandez
SP: Jon Garland
CL: Jason Isringhausen
If you set the replacement level at .292, and add a win above replacement for both the bench and the rest of the bullpen, this team would be expected to win between 65 and 70 games.

It's not the perfect awful name value team; it's an example of an awful name value team. You should see what happens when you plug Kenny Rogers or Jeff Suppan into that rotation in place of Verlander and Matsuzaka, who I only included because any GM who put together a rotation of Zito/Rogers/Suppan/Hernandez/Garland wouldn't be allowed out of the house.You have to maintain some semblance of reality, after all.
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From a .458 wOBA in 2006 to a .276 wOBA in 2008
Unfathomable.
by Jeff on
Nov 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST
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And that four year deal is just now kicking in.
by Goose on
Nov 7, 2008 5:35 PM PST
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With a 2013 option!
This is going to be so much worse than the Michael Young contract.
by Jeff on
Nov 7, 2008 5:37 PM PST
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And immediately after the contract was signed.
We know guys like Hafner tend to fall hard, but I never expected it to be this fast.
by Teej on
Nov 8, 2008 12:36 AM PST
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It's sad that us LGTers are just praying for 2007 again
And the best part is that no one has a fucking clue what happened.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on
Nov 8, 2008 6:23 PM PST
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I wonder how many games this team would win
by seattlebruin on
Nov 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST
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His 2006 was epic.
I never thought that would be the end for him.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on
Nov 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST
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If only that were indicated somewhere
If you set the replacement level at .292, and add a win above replacement for both the bench and the rest of the bullpen, this team would be expected to win between 65 and 70 games.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Nov 7, 2008 4:04 PM PST
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I propose that this subthread be hidden now
or Jeff blamed for writing in a way in which my eyes did not pick up this sentence
by seattlebruin on
Nov 7, 2008 4:06 PM PST
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I wonder in what sequence the keys appear on my keyboard.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on
Nov 7, 2008 4:51 PM PST
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And the ugly thought is that ...
our previous GM would would have placed (and in some cases did place) a premium value on every player on that list.
by Steve Nelson on
Nov 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST
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Especially since Young just won a Gold Glove.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on
Nov 7, 2008 4:52 PM PST
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In a shat on Monday, Chris Kahrl picked Figgins over Beltre
for whom she’d want on her team in 2009.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on
Nov 7, 2008 4:53 PM PST
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What kind of name is "Kahrl" anyway?
Why not change it to “Karl” so it actually looks normal?
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on
Nov 7, 2008 5:03 PM PST
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Do you have idea what her people have been though Coach?
Now you want to take away her cultural heritage.
by JI on
Nov 7, 2008 5:04 PM PST
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*Sniff* What have I done?!?
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on
Nov 7, 2008 5:07 PM PST
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I'm going to pretend that you're making a joke about Chris Kahrl's other name change because it makes me think you're an evil comedic genius.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 7, 2008 11:24 PM PST
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I"m going with clueless, myself
it fits the Coach narrative much better.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Nov 7, 2008 11:52 PM PST
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You think one of the people in charge at BP
could figure out Beltre >>>>>>>>> Figgins
by JI on
Nov 7, 2008 5:03 PM PST
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BP has/had exactly two redeeming people.
by Matthew on
Nov 7, 2008 6:12 PM PST
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And one of them has basically traded baseball for politics
by davidcameron on
Nov 7, 2008 6:14 PM PST
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Seems like he's found his true calling.
Good for Nate. He deserves the plaudits he’s received this year.
Nice example of how the process of sabr stuff is much more important than the results; it’s so damned applicable.
by marc w on
Nov 7, 2008 7:26 PM PST
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On second thought, this is a bit of hyperbole.
I haven’t followed BP in a year and I know they have some new writers, so I’m not in a position to judge them.
by Matthew on
Nov 8, 2008 10:31 AM PST
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The black helicopters came for you in the night?
by Graham on
Nov 8, 2008 11:25 AM PST
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They threatened to make him Mattina.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 8, 2008 12:30 PM PST
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November resolution.
I’m trying to be nicer.
My drinking has increased.
by Matthew on
Nov 8, 2008 12:51 PM PST
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It was more than just Beltre.
McGoldrick (Los Angeles): Who has the most gas left in the tank: Adrian Beltre, Jim Thome, Paul Konerko, Raul Ibanez, or Chone Figgins? Which ones would you want on your team in ’09?
Christina Kahrl: That’s not really a comparison of like to like, but I’d pick Figgins from among that crew, if only because speed guys seem to retain value wel enough. Beyond that, I’d take Beltre, but I can’t say I’m wildly enthusiastic about any of them. It’s easier to suggest that I’d put Paulie at the bottom of the pile, and work up from there.
by R.J. Anderson on
Nov 8, 2008 4:54 PM PST
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Women should never be allowed to talk baseball.
by JI on
Nov 8, 2008 5:26 PM PST
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This is hilarious on at LEAST two levels.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 8, 2008 10:48 PM PST
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I'm surprised you remember this
You guys should have let me run with this though as I had not heard of her until that day. Pretty funny regardless. I’ll catch you tripping up one of these days.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on
Nov 10, 2008 5:47 PM PST
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When I saw that people weren't letting you run with it I was confused and more than a little disappointed.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 10, 2008 6:15 PM PST
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My brethren at the Bay were nice enough to enlighten me
I don’t think I would have gotten off so easily at other sites.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on
Nov 10, 2008 6:18 PM PST
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I think it was an LLer that first pointed it out, actually.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 10, 2008 6:20 PM PST
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touche
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on
Nov 10, 2008 6:31 PM PST
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That shouldn't be an issue for Ms. Kahrl.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 9, 2008 5:51 PM PST
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At least Verlander has SOME chance of bouncing back, right?
Yes, his 2008 season was just awful, but he’s still only 25 and had success earlier in his career? I could see him bouncing back, maybe not to his dominant form, but at least to an above average pitcher. Or is he like Willis who had success due mainly to luck?
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on
Nov 7, 2008 5:01 PM PST
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Willis would have been a good selection for this post
by Jeff on
Nov 7, 2008 5:23 PM PST
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Hey look, I was right about something!
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on
Nov 7, 2008 5:26 PM PST
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don't get cocky. kid
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Nov 7, 2008 5:39 PM PST
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I'm a nerd
Luke: Got ‘im! I got ’im!
Han Solo: Great, kid. Don’t get cocky.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
by bluemax on
Nov 7, 2008 5:40 PM PST
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I'm not quite that nerdy
but I do think my snark would have been better had it been correctly punctuated.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Nov 7, 2008 5:48 PM PST
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Yeah but this team would hit so many home runs!
by brayden04 on
Nov 7, 2008 5:53 PM PST
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They would give up an ungodly amount of home runs as well
by seattlebruin on
Nov 7, 2008 8:56 PM PST
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Then they'd get mad girls cause chicks dig the long ball.
by brayden04 on
Nov 8, 2008 12:41 AM PST
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So they'd be rich as hell and get mad chicks?
This doesn’t sound like the worst life of all time
by seattlebruin on
Nov 9, 2008 1:52 PM PST
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Jason Varitek would of been a better option that Paul Lo Duca.
by Goose on
Nov 7, 2008 9:38 PM PST
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As
lucked as Dice-K was this year, isn’t there more proper selections ? I mean at least he hasn’t been bad. Carlos Silva?
by RollingWave on
Nov 9, 2008 11:49 PM PST
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...
You should see what happens when you plug Kenny Rogers or Jeff Suppan into that rotation in place of Verlander and Matsuzaka, who I only included because any GM who put together a rotation of Zito/Rogers/Suppan/Hernandez/Garland wouldn’t be allowed out of the house.You have to maintain some semblance of reality, after all.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Nov 9, 2008 11:51 PM PST
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