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OTFPOTD: Post Thanksgiving Hangover Edition

I'm going to be eating leftover turkey for weeks.

Since we're officially in the Holiday season, radio stations are going to be playing Christmas music. Again, and again, and again. There are some holiday tunes that are great, and some that are just. Plain. Awful. 

So let's look at some holiday-themed discussion questions!

  • Favorite Christmas-themed song?
  • Least favorite Christmas-themed song?
  • Real or fake tree?
  • Do you brave the Black Friday crowds?

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I like the song Hark Silver Bells

Actually, I like most Christmas songs. I can’t think of one I dislike. The only Christmas music I don’t appreciate is Christmas music that’s sung by musicians I dislike.

I grew up with a fake tree. I don’t even know what it’s like to have a real one.

Black Friday – I’ve been awake since 4am, and I only just got home to shower. Soon I have to get dressed and head out to football. It’s going to be a hell of a day.

by katal on Nov 28, 2008 10:13 AM PST   0 recs

Coma has passed.

No hangover, only had two beers.

1) Santa Claus is coming to town (Springsteen).
2) Hurry down the chimney tonight (Madonna)
3) Fake. Jeanuts is allergic to pine trees.
4) Never. Except today I have to try to get to K&G to try to buy a suit. AAAARRRRGH!!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 10:13 AM PST   0 recs

No hangover

1. White Christmas is my fav christmas tune.
2. I love having a real christmas tree in the house.
3. Working today so shopping, not that I’d go if I could.

by JMKaustin on Nov 28, 2008 10:19 AM PST   0 recs

I'd rather stay home until my dinner plans tonight,

but hopefully I can sneak out to the suit store without too much hassle.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 10:21 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I fucking hate the Beatles' "Simply having a wonderful christmas time"

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 10:25 AM PST   0 recs

Indeed.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 10:48 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That's only McCartney

That’s a solo Paul McCartney song— don’t blame poor John Lennon for that one.

But you are indeed correct, it is simply awful, and probably my least favorite too.

by edgar is good on Nov 28, 2008 11:13 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Point taken.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 11:13 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I like how the 10 video games you'll never play list had Diablo 3 on it.

wr9oing

Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!

by joof on Nov 28, 2008 10:25 AM PST   0 recs

Being a Yakima native, I can tell you just being there is a dirty job.

Unless you’re on a wine tasting tour.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 10:39 AM PST   0 recs

Someone help me out here.

What’s reasonable price on a suit I’ll wear about twice a year?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 11:12 AM PST   0 recs

No more than $150, I'd say.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 11:14 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That's what I'm thinking.

A friend of mine was saying around $250. I’ll spend that on booze or a bowling ball, but not a suit! LOL!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 11:19 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

In all honesty I'd say $350-500

and the only reason I say that is because for $150 you’ll get a cheap suit that you can wear twice a year, but will disintegrate in two years; spend $500 and you’ll get a better constructed suit that stores well and doesn’t look like shit when you pull it out twice a year. I could go into details on what the differences are, but the main one is that in a $150 suit, the jacket fabric is glued to the shoulder forms in the jacket; the cheaper the suit, the cheaper the glue, and when it starts to degrade it’ll look like crap in a hurry. If you spend between $350-500, though, you start getting into suits that are sewn to the shoulder forms and not glued; it’s more durable, it looks better.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 28, 2008 11:29 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

I will definetely keep that in mind.

I’m ashamed to say it’s my first time buying a suit.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 11:40 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Suit ended up costing about $150.

No shoes, shirt or tie, just the suit. Got a great deal on a very, very nice suit at K&G.
(Then went and spent more $$ on a new shirt and tie)

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 2:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Answers

1. Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) – Darlene Love
2. Simply Having A Wonderful Christmas Time – McCartney
3. Real
4. Oh fuck no. I’m the person online shopping was meant for – I hate people in crowds.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 28, 2008 11:25 AM PST   0 recs

My answers to my own questions!

1. I’ll Be Home for Christmas (as recorded by Diana Krall)
2. It’s a three-way tie between that damn McCartney song, The Christmas Shoes, and Christmas in the Northwest.
3. Fake
4. I did once and I’ll never do it again.

by BrianL on Nov 28, 2008 11:32 AM PST   0 recs

Answers

1 – I honestly cannot come up with a favorite.
2- Or a least favorite. They all range from meh to ok for me.
3 – Real.
4 – I am at work. I just finished packaging and shipping 18 boxes for a rush job I sold. No bindery department today, so I was it. I hate shopping when the mall is empty so this was more fun for me.

by Sec 108 on Nov 28, 2008 11:52 AM PST   0 recs

Losas!

1. A Holly Jolly Christmas (Burl Ives’ version)
2. None that I can think of.
3. Real.
4. I wanted to but couldn’t wake up in time.

by Coach Owens on Nov 28, 2008 12:20 PM PST   0 recs

Answers

1. A Charlie Brown Christmas, but this one is a close second.
2. Christmas Shoes
3. Real.
4. Absolutely, positively, no.

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Nov 28, 2008 12:36 PM PST   0 recs

As is George Winston's version...

But, yeah, the original has to be played on the first day of Christmas music in my house…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 28, 2008 1:00 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I almost forgot about

this.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 12:45 PM PST   0 recs

Jee. Pers.

This made me PUKE!

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 28, 2008 12:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Wow that's bugging me, wish I hadn't said it quite so strongly.

Not a really evil bad hate. For reminding me that I’m weak and can’t help but look at the shiny link, plus my “I’m Sanjaya!” being forever seared into my brain, more of a "I hate you’ followed by a punch in the arm. Why could I not summon the will to tear my eyes from that video? Dear God. Why?

by dpseadv on Nov 28, 2008 6:02 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Hmmm.

1) Either “Aspenglow” or Scott Blackwell’s A Myx’d Christmas Joy to the World. I know others loathe it, but I actually really like the “Christmas in the NW” song a lot, too.
2) Dolly Parton/Kenny Rogers’ Christmas To Remember.
3) Fake, because my wife’s allergic. We’re actually going to go buy a 2nd tree for the family room. I want to buy a third, real one, for my music room, because I friggin LOVE going to the woods to find a tree. But I haven’t done that since before I was married.
4) Done it before, actually don’t mind it so much. Slept in this year, though. Needed the sleep.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 28, 2008 12:46 PM PST   0 recs

hmmm

3. Real. Real. Real. If I met a girl and she were allergic that would be a total dealbreaker

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 28, 2008 12:53 PM PST   0 recs

fun

1) All I Wanted Was A Skateboard — Super Deluxe; this was a mid-90s Christmas season staple on The End, when it still had a few remaining shreds of relevance

2) Christmas Wrapping — The Waitresses; quite an old song that did get End airplay, but a song that made me change the station every time I heard it. Even more annoying than the Bizarro episode of SeaLab 2021. Or the Uh-Oh episode of the same show. Both of which I liked. “Christmas Wrapping,” however, sucks.

3) Fake; I appreciate the purists who like the real trees, but then I think of that MythBusters episode or I think of the cleanup and the fact that I’m a lazy bastard.

4) Sometimes I do. The nearest mall is a 10-minute walk from my place, and the crowds weren’t too bad yet as of an hour ago.

I must say I’m also very not used to the new formatting here. I’m used to typing the HTML tags in myself thanks to the circa-2003 version of Blogger, back when you could see your posting window and your old posts in the same browser window. Those were the days…

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Nov 28, 2008 1:30 PM PST   0 recs

different wavelengths

I guess the Waitresses struck me as too gimmicky. They also claimed to know what boys like.

Sports and Bremertonians. Because we can.

by wackomann on Nov 28, 2008 1:37 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Screw this having to work.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 2:08 PM PST   0 recs

Recovered, went and bought a suit.

NOw I’m getting ready to leave to celebrate a couple of birthdays, and have many drinks in said new suit.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 28, 2008 2:40 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Umm...(Who else is bumpin' the 106.9 christmas music in their car?)

1. Jingle Bell Rock (Classic version) and Elvis’s Blue Christmas.
2. Last Christmas (Both Wham! version and boyband cover version)
3. Real, duh! Getting it today.
4. No, I slept in, stayed up late last night. Will probably go to the mall tonight to see if there is anything left though.

by Fin on Nov 28, 2008 2:23 PM PST   0 recs

I'd get a real tree

but my allergies would quickly make me regret it.

by BrianL on Nov 28, 2008 2:33 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Tree pollen kills me.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 28, 2008 2:49 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

That's too bad.

I love the smell of the tree. Of course, only until it dies, afterwards they don’t smell so good.

by Fin on Nov 28, 2008 10:47 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Huh

And I thought Google’s Chrome EULA was Orwellian. Blizzard’s Warden is on another level entirely.

by Frosty Raptor on Nov 28, 2008 3:08 PM PST   0 recs

One of these days EA, Microsoft, Nintendo or Activision Blizzard will snare gamers.

They’ll sneak in a line about decades of indentured servitude. Sony’s too incompetent to succeed (ZOMG flame bait).

by Frosty Raptor on Nov 28, 2008 3:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

WHERE ARE MY GAMES, SONY!?

JUSTIFY MY PS3 PURCHASE DAMMIT

by BrianL on Nov 28, 2008 3:21 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

But there's Little Big Planet!

And Motor Storm: Pacific Rift. And Resistance 2. And…uh…huh…

by Frosty Raptor on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I've already tried that with him a few times.

And don’t get him started on LBP…

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2008 7:01 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Instead of partaking in LL Rainball...

I’ve been setting up my new TV. Yay HD.

by James F'n X on Nov 28, 2008 3:36 PM PST   0 recs

I have two Christmas albums I enjoy.

The Crash Test Dummies Christmas

The Twisted Sister Christmas

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Nov 28, 2008 3:56 PM PST   0 recs

Real Trees!!!

They smell so good!!!

by brayden04 on Nov 28, 2008 5:02 PM PST   0 recs

Hm

1. None of them
2. By 12/24, all of them
3. I honestly don’t care, though I do like the smell of real trees (I do loathe the shedding)
4. Hell no.

by Gomez on Nov 28, 2008 6:37 PM PST   0 recs

Oh man, the deep sleep you get after a huge thanksgiving dinner is awesome.

1.Probably something by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra
2.What Gomez said
3.Real
4.No. Wasn’t in the mood for fighting people today.

by Goose on Nov 28, 2008 7:44 PM PST   0 recs

Seriously

I went with a friend to his family’s place for an afternoon meal yesterday, and I was done for by the time I got home around 7 pm. ALL… THAT… FOOD…. I couldn’t do anything else.

by Gomez on Nov 28, 2008 8:11 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Ok, I did do one piece of Black Friday shopping

Bought a 20 pack of DVD DL’s from Newegg for $25 with free shipping. Which is pretty good considering that they are generally $40-$50 depending on the brand.

by Goose on Nov 28, 2008 8:50 PM PST   0 recs

So here's one for y'all...

If a tenant moves out of an apartment with a not insignificant amount of heating oil left in their tank, does said heating oil qualify as an improvement that the tenant is entitled to deduct from the rent or abandoned property that the landlord is entitled to claim as their own? Not sure if anyone has come up against this, but I can’t really figure out an answer based on my reading of the landlord-tenant laws.

by acblue on Nov 28, 2008 11:52 PM PST   0 recs

possible analogy

Maybe it’s like when I rented a car that had a quarter of a tank of gas remaining and they told me just to return it with a quarter tank of gas remaining. How topped was the tank when the tenant moved in?

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by wackomann on Nov 29, 2008 12:33 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

It's not usually that simple.

The leases I’ve done I requested that I pay for the oil at move in and they pay for what I leave at move out, so I’ve never come across that directly. I’d imagine a court wouldn’t be willing to call it an improvement (reserved for physical structures, IIRC), but might rule that as property that you can’t take with you, is close enough to rule in your favor.

It does depend on also whether the oil was agreed to be at a certain level when you moved in. If it was never specified, the landlord can just claim that it was full when you moved in, and he’s being a nice guy by not requiring that you pay for whatever you used.

In short, unless you have the level in writing at move in, you’re going to get judged against. If you have the level from move in, call a lawyer and spend the dough to get a professional opinion just to make sure, but you’re likely in safe territory.

If you have decent relations with your LL, you might be able to nix the whole mess without any extra effort by simply asking him for a fair portion instead. The amount you lose out on will likely be less than the small claims court fees and legal advice (not to mention time involved) should you be in the right.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 29, 2008 12:55 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

In my past experiences with this we got money back as part of our deposit return.

Check your lease closely to see what it says about the oil. If you did not pay for the oil in the tank on move in then you probably have no leg to stand on.

by Sec 108 on Nov 29, 2008 9:21 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

There's nothing specific in the lease and there was no oil in the tank when we moved in.

I think this is going to be a situation (if it even comes to this) where we either come to an agreement with my landlord or the people we would be passing the place along to. They’re likely to be friends of ours, and I think if we make it a “we’ll help you get the place if you help us recoup some of the money we spent on the heating oil” sort of deal, they’ll be okay with that.

by acblue on Nov 29, 2008 11:52 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

That was how one of my leases worked.

The new tenants had to buy the oil in the tank from us when they moved in. No matter what though, we had to wait a couple of weeks.

by Sec 108 on Nov 29, 2008 12:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Not to mention that eating oil is bad for you

You might get a tummy ache

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2008 1:33 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

True

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2008 1:37 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Also true

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2008 2:24 PM PST to parent up   0 recs