The Essence Of Leadership
Kirby Arnold fans the flames of justifiable contempt:
SEATTLE -- Reports of the pounds Carlos Silva put on this year might not have been as exaggerated as his weight itself.
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The Mariners won't say what the man nicknamed "Buffalo" weighed at the end of the season, although it clearly wasn't a four-pound difference. It was more like 30.
The Mariners are taking special steps this winter to make sure he isn't super-sized again.
It's funny to read over the Silva press conference article from last December and see how completely wrong everybody was. Maybe not so much ha-ha funny as hey-that-blood-spatter-on-the-wall-from-my-chest-kind-of-looks-like-Jerry Lewis funny. There are different kinds of funny.
The Mariners signed Carlos Silva for four main reasons:
1) to add a league-average arm to the rotation
2) to add an innings eater to the rotation
3) to add a veteran leader to the clubhouse
4) to be a good mentor for Felix
What they got in return:
1) the 16th-worst tRA and the 19th-worst tRA* of 130 qualified starters
2) 153.1 innings, a DL stint, constant back problems, and a 5.5 IP/start ratio that was below the AL average of 5.9
3) threats to throw teammates into walls and a stubborn reluctance to acknowledge his own shortcomings
4) substantial in-season weight gain from a guy who called out others for not showing enough commitment or drive to win
Carlos Silva didn't do a single thing right in 2008. Not a single thing. Remember how during the 06/07 offseason, a huge deal was made over how Felix had worked out really hard and lost so much weight? The big guy the organization brought in as a role model for their blossoming ace just gained 30 more pounds in six months. While playing games.
I'm not going to say this team would be better off were Silva to be rendered paraplegic in a traffic accident. But it wouldn't not be better off.
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Silva's lack of self reflection is impressive
too bad his contract doesn’t have a Lopez clause (doesn’t Loafie’s contract depend on him passing some athletic tests at the start of each season?)
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed it does
But Silva’s contract does promise him a suite for all road games. So that’s something.
by Jeff on Nov 23, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does that include Room Service?
That could be the problem.
by Fin on Nov 23, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
tacobar, to be precise.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 24, 2008 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am also going to blame silva
for the fact that a couple of different site are saying felix pitched 200.7 innings while others say its 200.2
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
by wadswerth on Nov 23, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How do you pitch 200.7 innings?
Indie.
by Taylor H on Nov 23, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think what you are trying to say is how do you pitch 200.2 innings
by Nick S on Nov 23, 2008 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
200.2 innings makes sense.
he pitched 200 innnings plus 2 outs to make it a 200.2… the 200.7 confused me
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
by wadswerth on Nov 23, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing.
200.7 → 0.7 ~= 0.666666667 = 2/3 = 2 of 3 Outs.
by ThundaPC on Nov 23, 2008 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that does make sense now
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
by wadswerth on Nov 23, 2008 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
more properly 200.6666...667 IP
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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 23, 2008 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They both mean 2/3rds of an inning.
Some sites use .1 and .2, some use .3 and .7.
by acblue on Nov 23, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The .1 and .2 make zero sense to me IMO
But that’s just me.
I know that's a pisser, baby.
by Blicks on Nov 23, 2008 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just look at it as outs instead of a decimal.
by Teej on Nov 23, 2008 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
0.1 and 0.2 make no sense to me either
I don’t think in trinary
by Graham on Nov 25, 2008 7:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It depends on your convention for identifying partial innings.
Two outs is two-thirds of an inning. Two-thirds in decimal notation is 0.666,,,,, which rounds to 0.7
By other convention, one-third inning is designated as 0.1, two-thirds by 0.2. 200.2 innings in this convention is the same as 200.7 innings in a true decimal convention.
by Steve Nelson on Nov 23, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Silva is on the path to overtake Player A as my least favorite Mariner ever
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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 23, 2008 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He needs to blame the fans for his weightgain first
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 23, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's all that's left
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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 23, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well his April was pretty good
but thats like saying “Oh isn’t that an interesting fly on that pile of shit”
by Scrupio on Nov 23, 2008 4:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wait-don't players usually lose weight over the course of the season?
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by Zonis on Nov 23, 2008 4:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But hey, there's good news.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 23, 2008 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Plus it looks like the Dodgers, Mets and Cubs are interested in Raul
Raul in the NL should be, uh, interesting. Wonder if they like lawn darts.
by eponymous_coward on Nov 23, 2008 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I don’t see why the Dodgers need an OFer, and an outfield of Kemp/Ethier/Ibanez could be hilarious
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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 23, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
true
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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 23, 2008 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Ned Colletti is not really the pinnacle of intelligence.
I know that's a pisser, baby.
by Blicks on Nov 23, 2008 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets think a sec
a team in the AL West who would be interested in a guy who has no power, and tons of speed…. and is a gamer… grinder… a ballplayer… a ….
Your Starting Short Stop for YOUR 2009 Anahiem Angels: WILLY BALLGAME!
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by Zonis on Nov 23, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please take him, Anaheim
Pretty please.
by Gomez on Nov 23, 2008 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like to hear Morrow is working out already.
Nice to know he doesn’t need Silva’s leadership to be prepared for next season.
by dpseadv on Nov 23, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to bulk up
Silva should donate about say…20 pounds of that weight to me.
Or just his personal taco chef.
I know that's a pisser, baby.
by Blicks on Nov 23, 2008 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
thought it was interesting
that not only did they send Silva home with a diet & exercise plan, but that they feel they have to send Rick Griffith along mid-winter to make sure he is actually following the plan…
by msb on Nov 23, 2008 9:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, another visit to the pitcher by trainer Rick Griffith.
This guy has to have a limit, one of these days I keep thinking he’ll just flip out on the mound.
by dpseadv on Nov 23, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Silva did his job and then some
He’s the Anti-Felix!
Silva took a hit for the team by absorbing all of Felix’s cockiness, smart mouth, and extra weight. In the infamous “throw someone against a wall” interview, if you look closely, you can actually see wisps of Felix’s potential negativity streaming out of him and into Silva. This season had the potential to tank Felix’s career by letting all his worst tendencies and temptations finally become habits, but Silva bravely threw himself in front of that bus and transferred all of it to himself, keeping King Felix on the pure path to superstardom. .
It’s kinda like the picture of Dorian Gray, if Dorian Gray was an obese #5 starter.
by Spoomeister on Nov 23, 2008 11:41 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I'm waiting for Baker to title a post
“Silva Lining turns out to be Blubber”
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 24, 2008 6:16 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Hehehe, soooo rec'd for awesome pun.
54!
by joof on Nov 24, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Silva's complete lack of self reflection
is also probably helped by the fact that he has a toadie “reporter” (Baker) egging him on trying to stir up trouble.
by Sam Regens on Nov 24, 2008 6:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That'a a pretty gross mischaracterization of Baker
I mean, I don’t like everything he writes but as beat writers go he’s easily in the top 20 percentile. And he certainly wasn’t supporting Silva’s lashing out against his teammates.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 24, 2008 7:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baker deserves all the grief that he gets for peddling trash.
by Sam Regens on Nov 24, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's agree to disagree
cause you’re wrong
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 24, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you gain 30 opunds in a year while working as a professional athlete.
I was appalled that I gained 10 (probably 15) pounds in one year, but here’s what I did in that year.
I’d just moved to a new city for a new job, and I didn’t know anyone, so I never went out. When I was at home I literally spent all of my time sitting at my computer playing EverQuest (this was 2000-2001). I rode a train to work, and got maybe 4 blocks worth of walking all day. And I ate at a mall food court every single day – usually a place called Perogy King – they served sausages as a side dish. And I was 25, so my childhood metabolism had just gone away.
And I gained 15 pounds, max. How did Silva gain 30? Does he have a thyroid condition?
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Nov 24, 2008 9:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The bigger you are, the easier it is to gain weight.
by acblue on Nov 24, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you eat to excess with every meal, sure.
But who’s that dumb?
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Nov 24, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you lack the capactiy for rational thought
I’ll agree there’s something wrong with you.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Nov 24, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of the problem is...
eat tacos until you’re full. As time goes on, you need more tacos to feel full because your stomach expands. If you figure 400 calories a taco, if it takes three to get full at the start of the year, that’s 1,200 calories… five tacos a year later to get full is 2,000 calories at one sitting.
Weight has been an issue for me as far back as I can remember and lately as I’ve tried to deal with it, the single biggest issue I’ve had is that I can eat a 300-calorie Lean Cuisine and it won’t make a dent in the hunger pangs at all. A footlong sandwich at Subway makes the hunger pangs go away but I don’t feel really full, either. A six-inch sandwich there and when I’m done, I’m just as hungry as when I started.
by Inkara1 on Nov 24, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Feeling full shouldn't be your objective.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Nov 24, 2008 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not, but it sucks to still feel hungry after dinner.
by Inkara1 on Nov 24, 2008 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference between feeling full and not feeling hungry.
Being hungry is unpleasant. Not being hungry is your default. Feeling full means not only that you’re not hungry, but you’ve eaten as much as you can.
There’s little need ever to feel full.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Nov 25, 2008 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your body also takes a good 30 minutes-1 hour to fully digest the food
so you probably won’t feel satiated right away.
I know that's a pisser, baby.
by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alcohol also factors in.
You don’t feel full, and a lot of alcoholic drinks are full of empty calories.
I can safely make the claim that the majority of my caloric intake comes from alcohol. It’s sad.
I know that's a pisser, baby.
by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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