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Today's interesting Links

Own a copy of LittleBigPlanet? Don't be surprised if your levels disappear and don't be surprised if Sony doesn't give a rat's ass.

7 Methods for Coping with Tragedy (Courtesy of James Bond)

6 people who died in order to prove a (retarded) point.

7 Most Impressive (and depressing) geek collections.

The 5 Most Ineffective Anti-Drug PSAs of All Time

Today's potential discussion topics:

  • If you could steal any instrumental musician's talent, who would it be and why?
  • What annoys you the most about your job?
  • Does Shareef really not like it if you rock the casbah?
  • What's your favorite cheesy 80s music video?
  • You're trapped in an elevator with Kenny G, Hitler, and Mussolini. Your gun only has two bullets. What do you do?

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Rockapella came to my highschool once. Some sort of anti-drug positive talk thingy.

It didn’t go over well, but it was Yakima, and most of the school was probably dealing.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 7:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Easy.

Shoot Hitler and Mussolini. Kenny G is a freakin saxophonist. I could easily beat him into submission. The other two, I mean, I bet Hitler was a feisty little guy. And Mussolini, he must have been ruthless. And I don’t mess with crazy people.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 7:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Best line:

At 09:47:13, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: this discussion belongs in the Qing Dynasty forum. We’re adults; can we keep sight of what’s important around here?

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nola I'm sorry

please take me off your mean list!

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 7:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

How's our resident Shiga star this mornig?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 7:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Morning, even.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 7:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go off to bed soon,

I wanted to participate in the offtop a bit, but people seem to be “busy”.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really tired yet

although I should be. I played about 6 hours of NBA 2K8 with my teammate, I have so much video game adrenaline pumping through me right now. And all I want to eat are Oreos. I feel like a crack addict.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just had dulce de leche cheesecake for breakfast.

Talk about a sugar high.

Can you get oreos there?

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah fortunately.

I never really liked them til I came to Japan. Everything here is so bland. I went to this famous Japanese donut place today and was bitterly disappointed. Not enough sugar!

And I wish I could have cheesecake for breakfast.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently no one thinks there is sugar in Seattle.

So they are buying me cheesecake, ice cream, pralines, beignet mix…I have a surplus.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do like bestowing gifts.

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by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally I love sending postcards.

I don’t know why, but I send a stupid amount.

Yeah, you gotta lie on those package declarations. When I was in Denmark last year, my mom sent me my cell phone cause I wanted to use it instead of the one the team gave me. Even though I owned it, the Post Office charged me $75 tax to receive the package cause it said a cell phone was inside. I was heated.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The end of a horrible night:

This is kinda long (TWSS) so read it if you want:

So I got home from work last night at around 4:45 like I usually do. Martin (my cat) usually greets me by the door when I come home, but he didn’t yesterday. This, in itself, isn’t too odd. There have been times when he’s been sleeping when I get home and it takes him a little while to come out and find me and say ‘hi’. So I go back to the bedroom to see if he’s sleeping on the bed, and to change my clothes. I figure I’d play some Rock Band before Katie gets home. Back in the bedroom, Martin is not on the bed. Again, this isn’t so strange. He has several “sleepy” spots where he could be. I change my clothes and start looking for him. I look in the window sill of the third bedroom. No Martin. I look on the futon in the den. No Martin. I look on the couch, and on his kitty condo in the family room. No Martin. Now I’m really getting concerned. I’m thinking that maybe he’s sick and has crawled under one of the beds. So I begin a systematic search of the house. He’s not in any of the closets, under the beds, or anywhere. That’s when I notice that one of the family room windows is open. My heart sinks.

I throw on a jacket and put my shoes back on, grab a flashlight (as it’s almost dark now) and head out to search the back yard. It’s absolutely DUMPING rain. All I could think of is my poor little kitty, who has never really been outside, being drenched by this stormy night. I check under all the trees, in the evergreen bushes that flank the property, in the wood pile. No Martin. I move around to the front of the house, and check under all the bushes. No Martin. I look on the side of the house. No Martin. Now I head down the street to start talking to neighbors, asking them if they’ve seen a black-and-white tuxedo cat. None of them have. Just about then, Katie (Mrs. Phildopip) comes home and I break the news to her. She goes inside to grab a heavier-duty coat, and we start canvasing the neighborhood. We go to the next street over to talk to the people who live directly behind us. The whole way there we’re calling his name, and making kissing sounds (our usual “come here” signal). No Martin. We talk to the neighbors who live behind us. No Martin.

By now we’re both soaked to the bone, it’s really dark now, and my glasses are so covered in rain and fog that I can’t see a damn thing. We decide that it’s best to head home and wait for Martin to come back. I didn’t have much hope that he’d be back any time soon because it was raining so hard. I liked to imagine that he’d found a nice, dry place under a tree somewhere and was somewhat comfortable. When we got home I jumped online to look up lost pet sites to see if I could get any pointers. A couple of them suggested that I put clothes that smelled like us into a box, and leave it outside. That way there’s a familiar smell out there, plus a place to wait and be comfortable. So I grabbed an old laundry basket, loaded it up with some of my clothes, and some of Katie’s as well. I even tossed in Martin’s favorite blanket. I put it on the front porch, and opened the living room window that looks out onto that porch. I also reopened the window through which Martin had escaped, in case he found his way home. Katie and I decided to watch some TV to try to distract us from the unpleasant thoughts. Of course the bad thoughts persisted. And other thoughts started to arise: How could I possibly go on my vacation on Saturday knowing that Martin was still out there on his own? The answer was I couldn’t. I told Katie that I couldn’t go if Martin hadn’t come back yet.

Every thirty minutes or so, I’d get up and check the front porch, and the back yard to see if he had found his way home. Soon it was bed time and there was still no sign of Martin. Lately, he had taken to sleeping with us at night (always RIGHT between my legs, so I couldn’t move them during the night as kitties do, of course). I had the thought as I was going to bed that maybe he’d find his way home, then come and join us in bed. He didn’t. I slept like shit. I dreamed about him all night long, and in every single dream he came home safe and sound. They were pleasant dreams, but when I woke from them I realized that they were fantasy and that Martin still wasn’t home. Katie dreamed about him all night too. I felt her get up at about 4:30 this morning. She checked the front porch for any sign, called his name, but there was still no Martin.

My alarm went off at 6:30, and before hopping in the shower, I decided to have one more look at the front porch. As I pulled aside the curtain, I saw a black shape lying curled in the basket. I almost couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I called his name, and he looked at me and meowed desperately. He came over to the window that I had left open, but couldn’t jump through it. He put his paws up on the sill, and he was still meowing, but wouldn’t jump up. I went to the front door, opened it, and Martin came inside. Safe and sound.

So, yeah, last night and this morning was an emotional roller coaster. I’m just so glad to have my kitty home. I still don’t know how that stupid window got open, but I made sure and shut it tight.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 7:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good.

But let’s get straight down to the most important question: How long did this take to type?

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank goodness that had a happy ending.

I was getting all sniffly.
I have to leave my kitties behind. It’s going to be tough. I’m glad Martin came home safe.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All's well that ends well dude

I’m glad Martin found his way back to you.

by coolguyrob on Nov 13, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad he came back.

I live in perpetual fear of one of my never-been-outside-ever cats bolting through a door or a window.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 8:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

Look what happened to me – my parents left the door open and I bolted through it and joined the Army!

by coolguyrob on Nov 13, 2008 8:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now all I have to fear from my cats

is that they’ll kill me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 8:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lest this turn into a discussion solely about cats

I will only say that one of my cats is terrified of his reflection in the mirror and freaks out every time he sees it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 8:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got some cabin fever from being quarantined at home all week,

and if Martin didn’t come back at the end of the story, I was going to get emotional. My cats have been keeping me company all week, and as much as I get mad at them when they “miss” the litter box (fun cleaning project when you’re horribly sick), I don’t know what I’d do if they went missing, especially the inside cats.

We just lost one of our outside cats earlier this year. Came in to eat, went outside and was never seen again. I still miss the little dude.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome the basket thing worked.

And good to know Martin made it back alright. That would’ve been so horrible if he didn’t.

by Wilder. on Nov 13, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The window was probably opened by a potential thief

And Martin chased the motherfucker down. That’s why he was gone. Your cat is a hero, and you should cook him a steak. Good thingg he came back

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bahaha, I wouldn't put it past Martin.

He’s a tough little dude. I thought about giving him a whole can of tuna (his favorite food by far) but thought that was a bit much. I gave him two treats instead.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love this theory!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a beer question.

What is the difference between a porter and a stout? My wife asked me that this morning, as she was downing her pre-flight gin and tonic (something very odd about drinking a G&T at 5.25 AM), and I couldn’t really give her a solid answer.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 8:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The only annoying thing is the OLCC

and the fact that bars at the airport don’t open until 6. So I went to the liquor store last night and bought two airplane-sized bottles of gin and a bottle of tonic, and as my wife was in line to check her bag she was standing there swilling gin. It was very rock-star-esque. Except for the fact she’s flying coach.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 8:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Picturing that in my head makes me laugh

And then my head starts to hurt because of way too much beer last night

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm debating if I should go out tomorrow night like I had planned.

If I’m cleared to go back to work, I’m cleared to go out and have some drinks too, right?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the drinks part should come first, honestly

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alcohol is a purifying agent

so it’s a health drink.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jager was originally cough medicine,

so I agree with this theory.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And conveniently I love the taste of cough syrup

Though I don’t really drink Jaeger much anymore, that was about the only thing I’d drink when I first was legally able, because it was the only alcohol that had a taste I could stand

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Both use roasted malt

Stouts also add roasted barley.
Oatmeal stouts obviously add oats.

And since I’m probably alone in this, let the record show that one LL’er prefers oatmeal stouts to the syrupy chocalate/cappuccino stouts that are now in vogue.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on that

Oatmeal stouts are great.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh.... didn't expect this reaction.

Although, at first glance, it would appear that the oatmeal stouts appeal to men of… experience.
Old people for oat beers!

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said yesterday

coffee’s the only disqualifier for me as far as stouts go. I really like them when they’re not coffee-flavored.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like oatmeal stouts too

I just like all stouts. Except milk stouts.

by Jeff on Nov 13, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've already had a nap this morning and it's only 8.30.

Getting up at 4 sucks.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

They are why I’m awake when I have to get up in a few hours to lift. Booooo.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We have team lifting in the mornings.

Tomorrow shouldn’t be too bad, we have a game the day after tomorrow (Saturday).

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 8:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Of course I got completely sauced last night and was up until 3 playing Rock Band with some friends. I feel like 150 lbs of birdshit right now

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pickup

now GO COUNT YOUR DICK!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So my boss is having me rip this

60 minutes segment so he can use it in a board meeting next week.

Is this the general perception about people my age? Am I really as bad as this segment makes me out to be?

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 8:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

No idea.

At least now I kind of understand why my boss treats me like crap*

*Disclaimer: I really have two superiors. One is a pretty cool guy who’s up to speed with technology and loves to get me involved with all sorts of neat stuff. The other is an older guy who clings stubbornly to old technology and doesn’t treat his employees (especially me) with any sort or respect.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know you personally

but I will say that I do notice something about Kids These Days. A lot of them (and again, I’m not being specific about you) have an completely overheated sense of entitlement; what a lot of high school and college and post-college kids don’t seem to understand is that you have to work for the things you want. They touched on this in the segment, but narcissism is a huge problem – I have a friend who’s a recruiter, and he always tells the same story when he’s asked questions like this.

About two years ago, he went to a college, set up an informational table, and invited students that were interested to come to his office and ask him about how to get started in their careers, and how to figure out what they wanted to do in five years, that sort of thing. One kid came into his office (he works for a pretty big consultant company in a pretty swank office) wearing shorts and flip-flops, sat down, put his feet up on my friend’s desk, and said “So, dude, what can you do for me?”

My friend looked at him, said “Nothing, have a good day”, and showed him the door. It’s that attitude – not “what can I do to get where I want to go” but “what can you do for me so I can get there”, that I see as the main difference between my generation and the one behind me.

I’m not making a value judgment here, and I’m fully aware that what I just described is by no means universal, and that there are as many entitled, spoiled people in my generation. The main difference to me seems to be that the generation behind me seems to view that sense of entitlement as their birthright.

On a side note, it’s really mortifying to realize that I can now refer to the existence of a younger generation than myself.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus they wear flip flops to job interviews.

I realize this is my generation but…how can they be so idiotic?

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is my question.

I don’t want to start sounding like a cranky old man, but kids aren’t seemingly held to any standards as far as societal behavior goes – at my uncle’s funeral a few years back, the wake was at his family’s house, and at the time his kids were both in college. His kids, of course, were dressed for a funeral, but at the wake all their friends came over to pay their respects, and several of them were dressed like they were going to a nightclub – miniskirts and flip-flops on the girls, and cargo pants and untucked shirts on the boys.

Again, I’m sounding like a crank, but it seems like parents have completely forgotten how to reinforce societal norms with their families – everything is let slide.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wear flip-flops 95% of the time...

But for job interviews I bought a nice suit and a pair of uncomfortable dress shoes and made myself look like something people wanted to hire. You know, except for the being a total nerd bit.

by James F'n X on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't even own a pair of flip flops

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't either.

I should probably rectify that before I go to Cancun.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, just wear your dress shoes on the beach with some black socks

you’ll fit right in.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At my summer work they always called me "Socks"

because I was the only person on the dock who would wear shoes and tube socks; everyone else wore flip flops

It was kind of a hassle when I had to get in the water to take my shoes and socks off, and when detailing people’s $80,000 boats it is a lot easier to just kick off flip flops than take shoes and socks off, but whatever

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly I suppose I never notice these things about people my age

because I never hung around with people my age growing up. I never even worked with people my age. Most of my co-workers at my first employer were typically five to ten years older than me. At my current job my co-workers are easily fifteen to thirty years older than me.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a mutual thing for me

I’m in this to make a lot of money, and I will accomplish this by making my employers a lot of money.

by Graham on Nov 13, 2008 9:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But does the existence of that construct exempt you from adhering to the company's norms?

(That’s not an accusation but a question)

A lot of people seem to think it does.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course not

Political manoeuvreing dictates that I behave myself

by Graham on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't possess it when I was that age either

I used to think I knew everything, and wasn’t shy about telling people about it. I still think I know everything, but over time I’ve learned to pick my battles very wisely.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I stay out of the interoffice gossip.

That’s one benefit of moving around quite a bit—you’re not embroiled in the gossip or the backstory. You don’t have to sink down to their level.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For me office politics isn't so much interoffice gossip

but knowing who to please and who to be brutally honest with.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To me, politics and gossip go hand in hand.

You can’t be a wise player if you indulge in the gossip. Supervisors notice.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gossip is utterly useless to me.

So what if Mary Jane and Sue hate eachother? They both need computers and tech support to do their jobs.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm famous around my work for not giving a shit about office gossip

if it doesn’t affect me, I don’t want to hear about it; if it’s speculation about something that might happen, unless I can influence the direction, I don’t care about it. This place runs on that kind of crap, which is really annoying, so at every meeting I attend, I try to cut it off as soon as it starts.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm lucky enough that I have a few other options if this job for some reason goes belly-up.

I’ve never had to stress about things that are well outside of my control.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At some point I've got to start wondering if every generation goes through this "kids these days" bit.

Another thing that’s interesting is that I read a Wall Street Journal article on how young people in Japan are deciding that they want to have lives that are not necessarily work.

“Just 3% of Japanese workers say they’re putting their full effort into their jobs,” the article says.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to say yes. It's like going to college, I feel bad for the admin. people sometimes.

The similarity being every new crop brings up the same issues as the generations before, thinking they are addressing a freshly discovered topic. Whoopeedeedoo! Look at me! I’ve discovered “X”, and I’m going to change your way of thinking! Kind of annoying after you’ve heard it the third time around.

I’m guessing only 3% of Japanese workers believe they are putting their full efforts into work, because they are raised with a massive guilt complex that tells them they never put their full efforts into work. They should try harder or someone better will take their job, and the rest of their society will kick them off the island.

by dpseadv on Nov 13, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't start thinking about kids these days until I hit about 37 or so

but the rapidity with which I notice “kids these days” things now is kinda startling. It’s like it went from 0 to 100 in just a couple years.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I screwed that up.

And now I forgot what I was going to say anyway. Kids. Feh.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know what I hate about kids these days? Tagging!

That shit is everywhere, they even use little pain pens on the metal framework on the park benches. I haven’t seen a mirror in bathroom in this town you could use in about 5 years, they scratch tag the god damn things. I’d like to jam a paint can/pen right up some kids ass.

by dpseadv on Nov 13, 2008 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But it's Graffiti Art. Or some crap.

I’m just feeling crabby today because I pulled a groin muscle, I’m gimping around feeling old today.

by dpseadv on Nov 13, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's crap now, true

I’m just saying that tagging used to mean something.

And some graffiti art is as good as modern art gets.

You should rub some Sombra on that groin!

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never heard of said Sombra, but at this point I'm willing to try anything.

Never done one of these before, aren’t groin pulls supposed to hurt constantly? This one seems to come and go, mostly if I move my leg in a certain wrong direction. Then if feels like a cattle prod in a certain spot for a period of time. Maybe this is a pinched nerve.

The tags that bug me are the little name tags, like initials or something. Somebody put the same one over and over again all down a street near my house recently. Just didn’t make sense.

by dpseadv on Nov 13, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

http://www.sombrausa.com

We used to use it in cross country all the time. Rub some Sombra on your muscles over your compression tights and your legs NEVER got sluggish.

It’s good for pain, just…avoid the balls. This part if of great importance.

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OW OW OW OW OW BURNING

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This, pretty much.

I love graffiti that’s artistic. When I saw some Banksy pieces in the U-District last year it was like seeing a Matisse just kickin’ it on the sidewalk. It’s just that 75% of all graffiti is done by people who are bored and talentless.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw a Banksy exhibit in London last year

it was truly amazing stuff.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On a related note,

girls are hella busy over here! WTF. If they are of college-age, it’s damn near impossible to schedule a date. They have school and part-time jobs, and internships and other stuff. Plus it doesn’t help that they usually live at home, and Japanese mothers are generally very strict.

Dammit, more living less working/studying.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a multifaceted problem, obviously.

I’m not at all a fan of my generation. There is undeniably a sense of entitlement, a lack of social refinement and a complete and total unwillingness to make any sort of sacrifice. I don’t think the majority of people that belong to my generation have any idea how society works: they do things like wear flip-flops to job interviews because they don’t understand why they should ever be anything less than 100% comfortable all the time. They tip poorly (or not at all) at restaurants, bars and coffee shops because they don’t understand why the people working those jobs deserve anything “extra” for doing them. They treat people in the service industry like crap because many of them never had summer jobs in retail, and if they did they didn’t actually try to to do them well. More than anything, they don’t understand how good they have it.

My girlfriend works for the Seattle Public Library. A lot of the more pedestrian work is completed by high school kids. They make ~$14 an hour and are pretty much guaranteed a secure, flexible, respectable job all the way through college and an entry-level position with a Government agency, paying upwards of $20 an hour (depending upon the degree they pursued in college) upon graduation. I would have killed for that when I was their age, and anyone that worked fast food, washed dishes or stocked grocery store shelves for spending money likely would have done the same. But the majority of these kids treat the job as an unpleasant obligation that is way beneath them rather than a blessing. They treat people like my girlfriend, who is 25 and a college graduate and is planning on making library work her career, as some sort of freakish pariah because she’s a library assistant instead of an IT worker or paper pusher. The people her age that worked at the library in high school and have higher level jobs are even worse. This sort of behavior is a symptom of wealth inequality and the belief that anyone who doesn’t have the same goals and aspirations that you do is lazy and contemptible, or that anyone who didn’t have the advantages you did when they entered the world is somehow beneath you. It’s a sadly prevalent opinion amongst the people in my generation, and I dislike it more than any other trait.

On the other hand, this generation is absolutely correct about a lot of things. The belief that the working world should be a meritocracy rather than a world in which seniority is valued most of all is an absolutely correct one. (The Bavasi years should have taught us that, if nothing else.) There’s a tremendous amount of distrust of and disdain for our parent’s generation, and really, can anyone give me a reason why we shouldn’t feel that way? The problem is not these beliefs themselves, but the way in which they manifest themselves. Because this generation understands that the corporate world is kind of fucked and dysfunctional, they don’t understand why they should have to “play the game” so to speak. And employers push back just as hard by refusing to hire anyone with tattoos or piercings, by refusing to attempt to acknowledge the ways in which the working world doesn’t function correctly, and by refusing to try and communicate in ways which are more effective.

//end rant

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very well put.

This is the key, I think:

More than anything, they don’t understand how good they have it.

As for the corporate-hierarchy thing, I think the nice thing about the 21st century is that there are places where people who don’t want to “play the game” can go; there are any number of startups, tech companies and whatnot that are purely meritocracies. It seems that people get upset when they get into a situation that’s NOT a meritocracy mostly because they don’t understand how the game works – and they don’t understand that they can opt out of the game at any time.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem with a meritocracy is that a lot of people my age thing they're God's gift to whatever it is they do.

So when they ARE forced to compete with other highly qualified people, they can’t handle it if they lose out. They don’t know how to process failure.

This knowing how to deal with failure thing is my leg up!

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's hilarious, certainly.

The point I was trying to make is that people think they want a meritocracy because they think they are (in the parlance of our times) “hot shit” but when they find out that it is more accurate to say they are (again, in the parlance) “cold diarrhea” they realize that what they’re really after is security.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is just more reason to love a meritocracy.

I get the satisfaction of knowing that if I do my job well I’ll be compensated accordingly AND I get to see overconfident people fail.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

A couple gigs ago, the VP of IT set up this somewhat ruthless system where new people were basically worked so hard they were crushed like grain into flour, and the ones that survived this nearly year-long indoctrination were then given cushy, not-quite-as-hideous projects for their next few assignments as a reward for swallowing their egos and learning how to function in a group of people.

The failure rate of this program was about 60%.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really like that approach either though.

I suppose you can’t argue with results, but it seems like there’s a middle ground there somewhere.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There is, but that middle ground always results in nothing getting done

because it usually ends up being non-stop negotiation over what’s expected. I don’t really like the grind-em-down approach, either; I’m really happy to be working where I am now, because it’s a noncompetitive industry. They innovate, and they make change, they just do it on their own terms and at their own pace. I was really close to bailing on the IT treadmill until I landed here.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope to work in a noncompetitive industry/for a government agency when I begin my real career.

Working in a dying industry in a terrible economy has taught me the value of job security.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to recommend it very highly

I never thought I’d be happy in a place like this, but I realized this year that I have very little ambition as far as work goes, so I’m in the right place – I learn just enough to keep me interested, and I work hard while I’m here, yet I never have to work overtime and my workload doesn’t really make me break a sweat most days.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My ambition at work is to perform well.

I have no desire to bust my ass to make it to the top. The top seems like a terrible place to be. I’m never going to make a bunch of money (unless I luck into it somehow by being in the right place at the right time) so all I care about doing is making my employer’s investment in me worthwhile.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty much my goal too

not to embarrass myself, and to walk away at the end of the day/week knowing that I was worth the money they’re paying me.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At the same time, I can't be lazy.

So even though I know I’m worth well more than I’m being paid now, I still bust my ass even though there’s no way I’m ever getting a raise again.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good thing though

even if it doesn’t pay off where you are now, it will at some point.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My thing is that when I'm at work

I find it way way more difficult to do nothing then it is to do something- as a result I’m productive

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I could just sit on my ass and watch movies all day if I wanted.

Most of my customers think that’s what I do anyway, and my boss wouldn’t notice.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

But that gets boring and feels pointless

You punch out at the end of the day and you feel like you’ve just wasted your time for 8 hours

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I envy these people

I start to feel depressed when I try to pull that

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've tried to convince myself that since I make about 60% of what I should make

that I have every right to do 60% of the work I normally do, but I just can’t bring myself to do it.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss my government agency being forward-thinking...

Actually, my division moreso than my agency. My agency is still a front-runner in state government, but my division has gone so far in the opposite direction, we’re completely undoing all the work that helped win my agency a Webby award…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 13, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

$14 an hour!?

My first job paid minimum wage and I was thankful for it.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Plus entry into the City of Seattle retirement program at 16 (or whatever.) My first job was flipping burgers at Eagan’s in West Olympia, and my second job was doing janitorial work at TESC. I’m 25 and I’ve never made $14 an hour; my salary averages out to about $13.75. The “lowly” job my girlfriend does pays almost $18 an hour with guaranteed COLAs and quarterly performance reviews. Seriously, these are good jobs, but because they don’t pay $75,000 entry level salary they’re treated like toilet scrubbing.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was extremely lucky

my first job, in 1986, paid $7.25 an hour, it was a summer job at the school district where my dad worked. My next job was washing cars at a car lot, and that paid something like $3.50. That did more to teach me about money than anything.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do they really make jobs that offer $75,000 entry?

That’s bullshit- I was looking forward to making $30 straight out of college

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They really don't unless you live in NYC/BOS/CHI and are a financier

but that’s what a lot of today’s youth are conditioned to expect.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They do, but they're not as common as people my age think they are.

That first job offer for many people is like a glass of cold water in the face.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Depends how your grades and experience are

engineering in CA starts around 60-70 right now, and I’ve heard as high as 75.

by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The one thing I will perpetually be grateful to my parents for is kicking me out of the house in the summer and saying "Find a job"

My first job paid $7/hr and I went to work, washed dishes by myself for 200 people at a camp, and punched out. I loved it.

There is nothing I enjoy more than an honest day’s labor and I think that’s really something that’s disappeared with my generation and it makes me sad.

It reminds me of a conversation I had over and over again with one of my co-workers who I used to work nights with. It went something along the lines of

Me: OK, I’m going to go rake the beach?
Him: Why?
Me: Because I get paid to rake the beach and the beach needs to be raked
Him: But there’s nobody here, who cares
Me: Yeah, but that’s what we get paid to do, so I’m going to do it

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really like doing an honest day's labor

but I do a desk job instead because it pays better. I should have joined a union when I was just out of college and learned a trade.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and for some reason my parents have not exercised this tactic on my sister

I don’t know if it’s because she’s a girl or what but she’s about ready to graduate high school, has never worked any sort of job, and has no clue whatsoever what money is worth

Hell, my parents spent $8,000 to send her to fucking Japan on a “leadership program” or whatever and to my knowledge never once did she so much as thank them for that opportunity

I keep telling my parents to make her get a job and they keep saying they will but they never have

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was an "Outside Service Attendant" at a 5 star hotel

Essentially I rake the beach so there aren’t footprints on it twice a day, clean the pool and monitor the pool chemicals, verify that there are towels outside, perform maintenance on the hotel’s fleet of boats, take care of member and guest boats, and stuff like that

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and that's for $9/hr + tips

generally working 50-60 hour weeks because we were understaffed

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, got it.

That actually sounds like a pretty sweet job. Except for having to deal with the people that stay at 5-star hotels.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a great job

And yeah, there’s two totally polar opposite kind of people there, those that tip well and don’t ask you to do anything and those that make you do a ton of work and don’t tip at all while bitching about the hotel

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's obviously trying to tell you something.

Bahahahhaaha… haha… ha

I’m generation Y, so I am caught in between X and Millenials. My soul doesn’t know which way to go.

by Wilder. on Nov 13, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BOTD...

The best part of waking up is bacon in your cup.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This place is dead today.

Did we finally run out of things to talk about?

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Super hangover working on setting in at the moment

And I’m playing Mirror’s Edge.

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate you*

*I don’t really hate you but I am very envious.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair warning though

It’s HARD. Like it gets tough real quick. But it’s incredible

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'll like the game

Mostly because IGN gave the game a shitty rating and I never agree with IGN.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IGN is shit, so you are good there

And if you liked the demo then you’ll love the game. It’s really intense. Getting shot at while running full tilt to a door that’s 100 yards away, and having to jump a 30 foot gap to get there at the last second is crazy

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The demo was a blast

But I’m hoping to find it as a rental.

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm filling out an online application and I am to list all the residences I've had over ten years.

I have moved at least twenty times in ten years. I don’t remember my addresses.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I had a stretch like that a few years back

I listed city and state, and approximate dates, That seemed to satisfy most people.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

1) I would steal/copy the talent of an insane drummer – pick your favorite here… Brian Chippendale, Chris Weingarten, young, non-drugged Keith Moon, etc.

2) Doing work that will never go anywhere; knowing some project is dooooomed but cranking through it anyway. Some people really hate this, and I think I used to. It’s familiar now, but can still be rather annoying.

3) The sharif really, really doesn’t like it; this particular sharif was allied with the theocratic Salafist Group for Call and Combat, having came of age in the Armed Islamic Group. He’d fallen in with Ali Belhadj before becoming sharif of a small tribe in Tamanrasset province (city of Tazrouk). Fitting with his ideology (which he has formally repudiated as part of the cease-fire agreement), he is against public dancing, and especially against jet-pilots.

4) It kind of has to be “Take On Me” by the Norwegian sensations A-ha. The Family Guy parody of this video is a classic moment.

5) I shoot Mussolini and Hitler. I sit Mr. Gorelick down and threaten him with violence if he doesn’t move away from the insipid balladry and back to his roots in the band Cold, Bold and Together (which you can hear on the ’Wheedle’s Groove’ compilation from Light in the Attic Records). I’m not terribly tempted to shoot musicians who use their talent in completely bizarre, incomprehensibly dumb ways. I used to be, but that would seriously have to become my life’s work, and I think I’d tire of it.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 9:13 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Eh, not my bag.

But sure, that’d work.

Honestly, Neil Peart starts veering into the undeniably-talented-so-why-are-you-doing-that territory for me. But I have no quarrel with the Rush fans of the world.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answers

1. I would steal Ben Folds’ ability to play the piano.
2. The glacial pace of change and the political roadblocks.
3. I don’t know, but over at the temple, they really pack ‘em in.
4. I do not possess a nostalgia gene, and I despised almost all 80’s mainstream music.
5. I shoot myself.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'll be dead, the bullet can be wasted for all I care

or maybe at that point HItler will pistol-whip Kenny G and put the last bullet into Mussolini’s head.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My turn

1) As a guitar player I’d choose something along those lines. But since I have a new favorite guitarist every other day it seems, I’m not sure who I’d pick. Hmmm, today I’ll go with J Mascis

2) The thing that annoys me most about my job is the same thing that I love the most about my job – I get to live overseas.

3) I think Shareef is just posturing.

4) Panama, hands down.

5) I’d shoot Mussolini twice. That way I’d get the pleasure of beating Hitler to death with my bare hands. This would probably scare Kenny to death. Bonus!!

by coolguyrob on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

How often do you get home?

How long’s your tour?

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm generally home once a year, more so if there's a wedding or some like-event that requires my presence.

I’m 5 months into my current tour, which is 4 years. This will likely be my last one as I hit 20 years at the end of it and can retire.

by coolguyrob on Nov 13, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

20 years. Holy crap.

You have my unending admiration.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lizzy Caplan is my new Hollywood crush.

She was quite attractive in Cloverfield, but AMAZINGLY hot in True Blood.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 9:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I need to catch back up with True Blood

I watched the first few, and I liked it pretty well, but I haven’t set up the DVR to record it yet and I keep forgetting it’s on.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's nothing special.

The lack of anything else on TV right now is the only reason I’m watching it. That, and my allegiance to Alan Ball.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda like it actually

I like the fact that it’s got a really languorous pace, and I really like a lot of the secondary characters – I’m still not crazy about the main vampire dude, but I’ve only watched I think four episodes.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind the show (or the main vampire dude)

My problem is that the main character sucks. Sookie, in addition to having a remarkably dumb name, is a terrible character being played by a not-very-good actress. Tara’s an interesting character and that actress has done an amazing job with her.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was kinda disappointed in Sookie

which is too bad because I really like Anna Pacquin. Tara’s probably my favorite character on the whole show so far.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And according to IMDB

this is pretty much the actress’ first serious acting gig, which makes it all the more impressive.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I've been watching that.

These are the shows I watch:

The Office
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Ghost Hunters

That’s it.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're a wise man.

Have you seen “The Gang Cracks the Liberty Bell” yet?

It’s gold.

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!!!

I was worried about that episode after seeing the teaser (but also really excited). It turned out to be awesome. I loved when Dennis and Mac were dressed as fops.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The wooden teeth!

And the pumpkin.

God, I love this show.

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

These days I'm watching

House
Mythbusters
Storm Chasers
Deadliest Catch (when it’s airing)
Some 24-26 episode animated serial novella that was produced in some far-eastern country.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More answers

1.) Arturo Sandoval’s trumpet skills. Seriously he’s a freak.
2.) Student, no job.
3.) Shareef had a job at an Investment Bank, and to conduct business from the Casbah required him to wake up extremely early. Rocking the Casbah caused him to be bleary eyed in the moning.
4.) Anything 80’s was ridiculous
5.) I tell Hitler and Mussolini to fight to the death or I’ll shoot them both. Kenny G is forced to play polka music while this happens, lest he be shot too. Whoever wins Hitler v. Mussolini then will shoot himself because he’s stuck in an elevator with Kenny G. I use the last bullet to shoot Kenny G in the leg and make him promise to never play music again. The world rejoices.
5.)

I will accept any draft combination of Crabtree, Andre Smith, Stafford, and Mays. Hear that Ruskell? Time to start spreading vicious rumors about all 4 so they fall.

by abender20 on Nov 13, 2008 9:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

5.) again? nice proofreading, me.

I will accept any draft combination of Crabtree, Andre Smith, Stafford, and Mays. Hear that Ruskell? Time to start spreading vicious rumors about all 4 so they fall.

by abender20 on Nov 13, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Following on with my comments yesterday

about not caring about the Carling Cup, it looks like I might now be able to not care about the FA Cup, too. For those of you not football-inclined, this proposal would be like having the play-in team at the NCAA tournament be made up of the best college basketball players from 1988.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It feeds the insatiable English appetite for nostalgia

Honestly, I have never met a people that are more backward-looking than the English. Granted, there’s a lot to look back on, but in a footballing sense, not so much. It’s basically a way for the FA to try to squeeze a few more dollars out of the Cup.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate it but it won't be an issue

I’m not heading to Seattle, so I’ll watch it at home – KO’s at 7AM, so I’ll get up in the morning and watch the game first thing. My computer’s not where my TV is, so there’s no danger of finding out a result…

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That show has gone down the tubes in my eyes recently.

I hate hate HATE the scripted segments of the show.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to think of a way to present that idea without sounding like a pig

This method worked, but I couldn’t limit myself to mentioning her without writing more than that. She’s my TV crush

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*swoons

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This show and House are the only two things I really use my DVR for

Those and the occasional episode of Man vs. Wild.

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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never really liked Bright Eyes or Conor Oberst or whatever he calls himself

but I’m listening to a live show he did recently (as Conor Oberst) and it’s actually quite good. The nasal whininess of his voice, which is what annoyed me the most about him on record, is almost nonexistent live.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 9:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

okay, this show's starting to annoy me now.

I like the rock Conor Oberst far, far more than the whiny confessional Conor Oberst.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answers:

1. Slash or Kim Thayil – two incredible guitarists.
2. I’m not paid adequately for the work I do. Probably because I don’t have a college degree.
3. Shareef can suck it.
4. Any video by Twisted Sister
5. Kill Kenny G. Gain the respect of the two others, then turn on them once out of the elevator?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 9:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also, Victor Wooten's bass skills would be nice.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My turn:

1) Guitar playing ability. Anyones really, I just want to know how to play, and I’ve yet to find time to take lessons.
2) Right now, the fact that my IT guy sucks, we have software that was found at a fossil dig, and my boss is pissed off because I’m sick (with a doctors note).
3) As neither the Shareef or the Casbah is or was a midget, I have no comment.
4) I Want My MTV.
5) I save both bullets and cough in their faces. Once they catch what I have they’ll take the gun from me and find a way to kill themselves.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

So I'm off the plane, on the shuttle to the casino.

Fuck I forgot how crappy MS is.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Memphis.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Memphis is only civilized for about one square mile though

once you get away from Beale St and downtown, Memphis is terrifying.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm on the northern tip.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 13, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The airport is on the southern outskirts.

There was nothing but gas stations and highway.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 13, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Every time I hear the name of that town I start singing Johnny Cash.

We got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper sprout,
We’ve been talkin’ ‘bout Jackson, ever since the fire went out.
I’m goin’ to Jackson, I’m gonna mess around,
Yeah, I’m goin’ to Jackson,
Look out Jackson town.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's an excellent question

I know not which Jackson this song is about. I just assumed MS, but I could be wrong.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed that video of Franz Reichelt.

Why would test a thing like that with yourself? Either make a dummy or pay a hobo off the street to do it.

by Wilder. on Nov 13, 2008 10:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I really hope magazines don't go away

because I really, truly love the one day a month when my Esquire shows up. Always-stellar writing, good clothes advice, and this month four, count ’em FOUR, different chili recipes. Awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Obviously

But I still sting from the trade.

by Robert on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm debating getting caught up in yesterday's thread

Did I miss anything of importance? There are almost 900 comments to catch up to (I left work at 2 and basically started drinking at 4 yesterday).

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Looks that way, now that I'm poking through it.

I just closed the tab after going through a bit of it

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tired and hung over, mostly

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Check and check

My head hurts, and Mirror’s Edge is NOT helping that. I’m done for now

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still sick, but going into work against doctors orders anyway.

Apparently I’m the only person who can solve a f**ing problem at that place.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine how quiet it's going to be next week, after everybody comes down with what you've got.

And you are over it, like giving yourself a vacation at work. Make sure to get it onto all the door handles, don’t forget the coffee/break room.

by dpseadv on Nov 13, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm licking everything as I go.

On the plus side I burst through the door with my “no bullshit” mask on, and had everything fixed in about 15 minutes. At least the boss is apologetic and told me to take tomorrow off if I wanted too. We’ll see how far I get today. No point in driving all the way to work for a short stay. I figure I might as well bust my tail and get some shit done.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Dayman! Fighter of the Nightman!

Anyone see the Blazer game last night? Two road wins in a row has me ready to reserve playoff tickets.

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

easy there killer

The Blazers won 13 in a row last year and didn’t make the playoffs, let’s give them a couple months to see how good they are.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're not wrong

But the last couple of wins have really made me hopeful. We did NOT play well against Dallas or Miami, and we still managed to find a way to win. Those games would have been losses last season.

I’m thinking anywhere between a 6th and an 8th seed and a competitive first round exit and I’ll be ecstatic.

by Garces on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cliff Lee won the AL Cy Young

so there’s that. Link.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Okay, here's a better link

Link.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh.

If he is, then it’s not by much.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well no

But more innings, 5 more complete games, more strikeouts.

by JI on Nov 13, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What's happening?

I’m hung over, which makes for a not so fun day off. You decide to work late today for extra overtime?

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take a swing before I go back to my overloaded desk.

1 – I’m gonna cheat, because who cares? Tchaikovsky. I can play many instruments, but I would love to be able to write powerful music that includes hundreds of instruments.
2 – Our production manager is a passive-aggressive, superstitious freak who is afraid to tell anyone what to do.
3 – Shareef and I are cool.
4 – Video killed the radio star.
5 – Pistol whip all three. Take the elevator to the top and throw them all off.

by Sec 108 on Nov 13, 2008 11:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just ran across a site featuring really stupid Halloween costumes, and I believe this is my favorite.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

HOLY DUMB FUCK

What the hell. And why no link to said website?

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

.

Cracked

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even more.

This one had me laughing through tears.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the opposite of awesome

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NOoooooo

The old paint was cooler

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Paint hasn't really changed since Windows 95

and it needed to remain that way

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

She's more boyish than I am. Ick.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you'd better run all day, run all night

Yeah, that’s not one of their better efforts.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't think it's a good single

but in the context of The Wall it works pretty well.

by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still remember being in college

and thinking that The Wall REALLY MEANT SOMETHING DEEP, MAN. I still think it’s a great album, but man did we all overthink stuff in college.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't mean anything really deep

But as an album it’s a masterpiece because of the pacing and the blending of styles, it feels like you’re watching a movie although you’re listening to a record.

by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

But things seemed much more laden with meaning in college. And there is of course the Alan Parker film of The Wall, which…well, when, uh, altered it seems really overpowering. Haven’t seen it in years, though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's decent

but I feel turning The Wall into a movie is redundant.

by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love the movie.

In fact, the movie version of “Mother” is better than the album version.

I back my statements up with evidence.

DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert in Pink Floyd, or mothers.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

That’s one of the things that I really disliked about the movie was the different version of Mother. Probably due to the fact that it was (and still is) one of my favs to play on guitar. The movie version is still good though.

by coolguyrob on Nov 13, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is not worthy a stand a long fan post

but thought someone here might be interested http://jobsearch.mlb.careers.monster.com/

I got this in a monster spam email.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Nov 13, 2008 12:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Considering the D-backs just laid off something like 5% of their front office staff

I’d probably exclude them from any MLB job search.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I would want to work for any of the ball clubs.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Nov 13, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like to stay on the consumption side of sausage-making, myself

if I see how it’s made I don’t think I’d want to consume it any more.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I work in politics. I see first hand why cynicism is ramped.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Nov 13, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I've been asked to provide a status update on something I don't actually work on

which will make for a very interesting meeting indeed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Were you supposed to be working on it?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to my knowledge, no

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to go with something like

“the project is under way and I’m still awaiting status updates from several people” because the “necessary information” tactic usually results in follow up questions that I won’t be able to answer.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a high fever

didn’t sleep at all last night

and still haven’t started on the paper which is due in two hours and don’t have the mental capacity to write a quality paper right now

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it too late to do that though?

Roll in an hour and a half before class starts and say “Hey, I can’t get the paper in?”

Won’t that look bad?

Does anybody know how to change the time an email was sent so I can send him an email now and date it last night?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like you have what I have.

High fever, and it felt like my brain was melted.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I was in college

my grandmother used to request that I send her typed notes because “her eyes were bad”. I had to tell her it was OK to tell me that my handwriting sucks. So no, I never use cursive, and I only handwrite when absolutely necessary.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I learned it in 1994-1995

Who knows what has happened in the last 14 years

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

1994 was 14 years ago?

Daaamn – what happened to those 14 years…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Nov 13, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My handwriting sucks, I don't remember cursive,

and I type everything I possibly can.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My parents think cursive is very important

and insist I always use it, but that’s the only time they ever see my handwriting (when thank you note to Grandma gets posted on her refrigerator door)

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by I'm NOT Corco on Nov 13, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't even print legibly anymore.

I hand-write maybe an average of two words per week, so my handwriting has become atrocious.

And cursive sucks. It’s useless and a massive waste of time for children who will abandon it by high school anyway.

by Teej on Nov 13, 2008 4:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

SQUEEEEEEEEEE

EEEEEEEEEEE

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If this reunion comes together

I will be more excited than ac was about The Sonics. They can call it the Rod Stewart Career Redemption Tour.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh.

Is Rod Stewart going to bring his unique brand of redoing jazz and easy listening standards to the Faces?

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If the pre-90's Rod Stewart shows up it will kick much ass

if the godawful elevator music songbook-era Rod Stewart shows up I will be despondent.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh the rhythm of my heart is beatin' like a drum

with the words “I love you” rollin’ off my tongue.
Never will I roam, for I know my place it home.
Where the ocean meets the sky, I’ll be saaaaaaaaiiilin’.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH ROD STEWART

YOU LOOSE-TIE-WEARING DOUCHEBAG GO AWAY AND BRING BACK THE BOOZY GOODNESS OF HAD ME A REAL GOOD TIME.

yep, I have some pretty strong feelings about the career path of Rod Stewart.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just remembered I'm going to see the Dirtbombs tonight

this day is guaranteed to end extremely well.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Berbati's.

should be fun.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and then just for grins I might go see Fishbone on Saturday

but then again that might just make me sad for how awesome they used to be.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Late but why not.

1)-Buzz Osborne’s guitar playing ability. He’s way better than he gets credit for.

2)-The fact that I make about 60% of what most people in my position make while knowing that I am likely to never get another raise.

3)-He thinks it’s not kosher.

4)-Hot for Teacher

5)-I pistol whip all three of them until they’re knocked out, line them up in a row and let sweet mama physics do her thing.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 3:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

To come full circle from yesterday

I give you the otherwise-execrable Vampire Weekend, covering Plastic Bertrand.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Have you heard the Headcoatees cover of this song?

Yes, I probably just need to post that subject line to the clipboard or make it one of the function keys.

But yes, it’s pretty awesome.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have not

for someone who loves Thee Headcoats as much as I do I’m alarmingly light on Headcoatees stuff.

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by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would appear that you are.

Maybe I’ll send it to you.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to say. It's possible.

(I’ve got it at home, so it’ll be a while. Most likely.)

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm working on my resume...

I have often found “Objective” to be the hardest part of a resume. The rest is just facts.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 3:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, me too.

I hate cover letters as well. It requires walking that fine line between bullshit and honesty, sucking up and realism. I hate it.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to feel more like I can do cover letters now.

Maybe that’s because I’m in business school, so to some extent I’m “learning the language.”

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I personally never include an objective section

it’s relatively meaningless. A resume is the foot in the door; the interview is where you go into the details like what your objectives are. It’s often better to leave it out than to put a bunch of meaningless corporate-speak on there.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Be short and to the point.

HR people spend about 15 seconds looking at your resume before they decide if you get an interview or not.

by Sec 108 on Nov 13, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Use of any font other than Arial or Tahoma is not a good idea.

Be plain. Be clear. Be crisp.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tahoma is a good bet

I’ve got Times New Roman on mine, personally

by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I usually stay away from it because it's the Word default

I want my resume to look a little different, but not too different.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that so many people in my year were avoiding TNR like the plague that by using it, mine did end up looking different

and honestly, I think TNR is just a much nicer font than Tahoma, and I hate Arial

Then of course, our resumes didn’t like that different since we all shared the same header that was passed from person to person. Can’t have been too bad though, since we all got tech jobs =)

by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed that the new Word default is Calibri

And for now, I somewhat like Calibri, but I know I’ll get tired of it.

If you apply for a job to me in Comic Sans, though, it’s an automatic rejection.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've actually used Big Caslon for my body text recently, so long as I can send it in .pdf form

It’s a pretty nice serif font that has a little variation from Times New Roman.

Because God, I got sick of looking at TNR the past few years.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Also, when listing your accomplishments, be general, not specific – nobody outside your (current job/current class) knows what that acronym or department/system name means, so describe it instead of naming it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So...

Somebody from another office in the building I worked in used to bring the Oregonian comics into the bathroom every day. While I didn’t enjoy every single comic in there, I would read almost every single one.

It’s been about two weeks now, and no comics. I don’t know if the person is on vacation, or no longer works in the building, but I miss reading the daily adventures of Bucky Katt, Satchel Pooch, Pig, Rat, Goat, the Crocs, and Zeeba Neighba.

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 3:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I finally went to comics.com

and signed up to have Get Fuzzy delivered to my in box every morning because it’s awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not good.

Can’t say I’ve really ever read that one, I might have to grab the Oregonian and check it out.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you say that music's for the birds, you can't understand the words

well honey if you did, you’d really blow your lid
cuz baby that is rock and roll

Man, that’s an awesome song.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Nov 13, 2008 3:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Need networking help

The wifi I leech off of at work has suddenly stopped working after 6 months of no problems.Whenever I try to connect, it instantly tells me that I cant connect, but strangely whenever I try on a new computer it connects perfectly until I delete the connection. WPA-2 and it appears that I know the password as I can connect on the new laptops.

by Robert on Nov 13, 2008 3:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like it kicked the IP address specific to your old compture out, maybe?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to my knowledge-

BrianL would likely know more.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Try an ipconfig /release all

command in the cmd prompt. After that issue an ipconfig /renew command.

by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 5:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You have Vista w/ no SP? Or XP SP2?

There’s a WPA2 patch, or get the next service pack.

Also, see if you have new drivers for the Wifi card, as some older driver sets don’t support WPA2 correctly.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 14, 2008 5:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's both

And it’s run fine with SP1 for more months until last week.

by Robert on Nov 14, 2008 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This game is kicking my ass.

Link

I’m all the way to level 6~5 (That’s 65 levels), and now I’m stuck.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 3:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Huh.

For someone whose resume includes composing the soundtracks to My Girl 2, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Free Willy 3, The Lizzy McGuire Movie, and fucking The Meteor Man, how does Cliff Eidelman compose the awesome soundtrack to Star Trek VI?

by Phildopip on Nov 13, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, this Black Friday is looking like one of the most depressing ever

I can’t find one decent deal on something that I want…

by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

All the more reason to stay home.

Whenever I’m in a store on Black Friday, I ask myself: “How much would I pay for all these people to just vanish off the face of the Earth and for me to get back these 45 minutes of my life?” I think about it for a few minutes, and I usually come up with a figure that is higher than the amount of money I’m saving by subjecting myself to that madness.

by Teej on Nov 13, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So if I stay at work until 6 PM today, I will have put in 5.5 hours of overtime for the week and not be paid for any of it

However, if I stay until 6:30, I will have put in 6 hours of overtime this week and be paid in full at my hourly rate of $31/hr. Since the OT I’ve already put in is a sunk cost, from 6 to 6:30 today I will be making $372 an hour.

I feel like Willie Bloomquist!

by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bahahahaha, sorry Mrs. PDB
15. Arizona State — James Harden gave a big boost to Arizona State’s program this offseason by announcing he would stick around for his sophomore year. Also giving a big boost to Arizona State’s program this offseason? The existence of Arizona’s program.

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by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, you like basketball.

Is there a reason WSU is getting absolutely no love this year? SI and ESPN don’t have them even making the tournament. Sure they lost their two guards, but Tony Bennett has done a lot more with less, and he’s got some solid recruits. I don’t get the pessimism.

by Teej on Nov 13, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Losing Kyle Weaver and Low is pretty big, wouldn't you say?

Seriously – it’s Taylor Rochestie running the point. Better hope that Klay Thompson kid is legit.

I think they’re a solid team – NCAA bubble maybe – but there’s simply no doubt that they’ve taken a big hit.

by marc w on Nov 13, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it's a big hit, but going from a top-15 team to not even among the top 65 teams or so?

I don’t know, I’m an alumnus so I’m biased, but I like Rochestie a lot. And while the kids Bennet has coming in aren’t UNC-level recruits, they’re supposed to be pretty good.

Middle of the Pac-10 is about what I’m expecting. Did the Pac-10 get worse this year? Because middle of the Pac-10 was an easy tournament berth last year.

by Teej on Nov 13, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Pac-Ten is terrible this year

things like this happen when A. one team is sucking up a big percentage of the elite recruits and B. 20% of the recent NBA draft was from the Pac-Ten, including 7 of the top 21.

It’s pretty much the perfect combination for a down year for the conference

by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not making the tournament doesn't mean you're not one of the best 65 teams, though.

There are going to be a ton of teams that get into the tournament that aren’t better than WSU.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, sure.

But the worst team in the Pac-10 is still better than most of the 16 seeds.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Nov 13, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All.

All of the 16 seeds.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 5:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but PAC-10 players are different

The dudes you see playing for mid-majors are dudes who were recruited to sit on the bench at major schools. The skill level is usually pretty similar, but athleticism is a big advantage for major schools. Plus, in college you don’t have to be skilled, just athletic and you can dominate. Once you get to the next level you can’t dominate without skills, which is why you see so many people flame out.

by brayden04 on Nov 13, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

I believe SI (which is really why I’m asking about this) factored that into its rankings, so that might explain why the Cougs are nowhere to be found. Gotta make room for Morgan State.

by Teej on Nov 13, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs