OTFPOTD: I haven't done this in a while edition
I think it's been about a month since I put up one of these.
Today's interesting Links
7 Methods for Coping with Tragedy (Courtesy of James Bond)
6 people who died in order to prove a (retarded) point.
7 Most Impressive (and depressing) geek collections.
The 5 Most Ineffective Anti-Drug PSAs of All Time
Today's potential discussion topics:
- If you could steal any instrumental musician's talent, who would it be and why?
- What annoys you the most about your job?
- Does Shareef really not like it if you rock the casbah?
- What's your favorite cheesy 80s music video?
- You're trapped in an elevator with Kenny G, Hitler, and Mussolini. Your gun only has two bullets. What do you do?
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Rockapella came to my highschool once. Some sort of anti-drug positive talk thingy.
It didn’t go over well, but it was Yakima, and most of the school was probably dealing.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Easy.
Shoot Hitler and Mussolini. Kenny G is a freakin saxophonist. I could easily beat him into submission. The other two, I mean, I bet Hitler was a feisty little guy. And Mussolini, he must have been ruthless. And I don’t mess with crazy people.
Originally I only had three acceptable answers for this.
I have four now.
That is very much like my answer.
I was going to say shoot Hitler and Mussolini, beat the crap out of Kenny G.
that's a mighty nerdy link there, boss
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Best line:
At 09:47:13, BarracksRoomLawyer wrote:
Point of order: this discussion belongs in the Qing Dynasty forum. We’re adults; can we keep sight of what’s important around here?
How's our resident Shiga star this mornig?
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Morning, even.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I'm gonna go off to bed soon,
I wanted to participate in the offtop a bit, but people seem to be “busy”.
I'm not really tired yet
although I should be. I played about 6 hours of NBA 2K8 with my teammate, I have so much video game adrenaline pumping through me right now. And all I want to eat are Oreos. I feel like a crack addict.
I just had dulce de leche cheesecake for breakfast.
Talk about a sugar high.
Can you get oreos there?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah fortunately.
I never really liked them til I came to Japan. Everything here is so bland. I went to this famous Japanese donut place today and was bitterly disappointed. Not enough sugar!
And I wish I could have cheesecake for breakfast.
Apparently no one thinks there is sugar in Seattle.
So they are buying me cheesecake, ice cream, pralines, beignet mix…I have a surplus.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:15 AM PST up reply actions
The package I just sent to England cost $55.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
I do like bestowing gifts.
First-Class Mail® International Package*
Maximum Value for Contents: $400 Varies $16.90
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
Personally I love sending postcards.
I don’t know why, but I send a stupid amount.
Yeah, you gotta lie on those package declarations. When I was in Denmark last year, my mom sent me my cell phone cause I wanted to use it instead of the one the team gave me. Even though I owned it, the Post Office charged me $75 tax to receive the package cause it said a cell phone was inside. I was heated.
The end of a horrible night:
This is kinda long (TWSS) so read it if you want:
So I got home from work last night at around 4:45 like I usually do. Martin (my cat) usually greets me by the door when I come home, but he didn’t yesterday. This, in itself, isn’t too odd. There have been times when he’s been sleeping when I get home and it takes him a little while to come out and find me and say ‘hi’. So I go back to the bedroom to see if he’s sleeping on the bed, and to change my clothes. I figure I’d play some Rock Band before Katie gets home. Back in the bedroom, Martin is not on the bed. Again, this isn’t so strange. He has several “sleepy” spots where he could be. I change my clothes and start looking for him. I look in the window sill of the third bedroom. No Martin. I look on the futon in the den. No Martin. I look on the couch, and on his kitty condo in the family room. No Martin. Now I’m really getting concerned. I’m thinking that maybe he’s sick and has crawled under one of the beds. So I begin a systematic search of the house. He’s not in any of the closets, under the beds, or anywhere. That’s when I notice that one of the family room windows is open. My heart sinks.
I throw on a jacket and put my shoes back on, grab a flashlight (as it’s almost dark now) and head out to search the back yard. It’s absolutely DUMPING rain. All I could think of is my poor little kitty, who has never really been outside, being drenched by this stormy night. I check under all the trees, in the evergreen bushes that flank the property, in the wood pile. No Martin. I move around to the front of the house, and check under all the bushes. No Martin. I look on the side of the house. No Martin. Now I head down the street to start talking to neighbors, asking them if they’ve seen a black-and-white tuxedo cat. None of them have. Just about then, Katie (Mrs. Phildopip) comes home and I break the news to her. She goes inside to grab a heavier-duty coat, and we start canvasing the neighborhood. We go to the next street over to talk to the people who live directly behind us. The whole way there we’re calling his name, and making kissing sounds (our usual “come here” signal). No Martin. We talk to the neighbors who live behind us. No Martin.
By now we’re both soaked to the bone, it’s really dark now, and my glasses are so covered in rain and fog that I can’t see a damn thing. We decide that it’s best to head home and wait for Martin to come back. I didn’t have much hope that he’d be back any time soon because it was raining so hard. I liked to imagine that he’d found a nice, dry place under a tree somewhere and was somewhat comfortable. When we got home I jumped online to look up lost pet sites to see if I could get any pointers. A couple of them suggested that I put clothes that smelled like us into a box, and leave it outside. That way there’s a familiar smell out there, plus a place to wait and be comfortable. So I grabbed an old laundry basket, loaded it up with some of my clothes, and some of Katie’s as well. I even tossed in Martin’s favorite blanket. I put it on the front porch, and opened the living room window that looks out onto that porch. I also reopened the window through which Martin had escaped, in case he found his way home. Katie and I decided to watch some TV to try to distract us from the unpleasant thoughts. Of course the bad thoughts persisted. And other thoughts started to arise: How could I possibly go on my vacation on Saturday knowing that Martin was still out there on his own? The answer was I couldn’t. I told Katie that I couldn’t go if Martin hadn’t come back yet.
Every thirty minutes or so, I’d get up and check the front porch, and the back yard to see if he had found his way home. Soon it was bed time and there was still no sign of Martin. Lately, he had taken to sleeping with us at night (always RIGHT between my legs, so I couldn’t move them during the night as kitties do, of course). I had the thought as I was going to bed that maybe he’d find his way home, then come and join us in bed. He didn’t. I slept like shit. I dreamed about him all night long, and in every single dream he came home safe and sound. They were pleasant dreams, but when I woke from them I realized that they were fantasy and that Martin still wasn’t home. Katie dreamed about him all night too. I felt her get up at about 4:30 this morning. She checked the front porch for any sign, called his name, but there was still no Martin.
My alarm went off at 6:30, and before hopping in the shower, I decided to have one more look at the front porch. As I pulled aside the curtain, I saw a black shape lying curled in the basket. I almost couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I called his name, and he looked at me and meowed desperately. He came over to the window that I had left open, but couldn’t jump through it. He put his paws up on the sill, and he was still meowing, but wouldn’t jump up. I went to the front door, opened it, and Martin came inside. Safe and sound.
So, yeah, last night and this morning was an emotional roller coaster. I’m just so glad to have my kitty home. I still don’t know how that stupid window got open, but I made sure and shut it tight.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 7:56 AM PST reply actions
Thank goodness that had a happy ending.
I was getting all sniffly.
I have to leave my kitties behind. It’s going to be tough. I’m glad Martin came home safe.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:06 AM PST up reply actions
I'm glad he came back.
I live in perpetual fear of one of my never-been-outside-ever cats bolting through a door or a window.
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No kidding
Look what happened to me – my parents left the door open and I bolted through it and joined the Army!
Now all I have to fear from my cats
is that they’ll kill me.
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Lest this turn into a discussion solely about cats
I will only say that one of my cats is terrified of his reflection in the mirror and freaks out every time he sees it.
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If I reached the end of this and Martin wasn't safe at home
I was about to have a heart attack.
Give him a smooch for rc.
I've got some cabin fever from being quarantined at home all week,
and if Martin didn’t come back at the end of the story, I was going to get emotional. My cats have been keeping me company all week, and as much as I get mad at them when they “miss” the litter box (fun cleaning project when you’re horribly sick), I don’t know what I’d do if they went missing, especially the inside cats.
We just lost one of our outside cats earlier this year. Came in to eat, went outside and was never seen again. I still miss the little dude.
Man do I love midgets.
That's awesome the basket thing worked.
And good to know Martin made it back alright. That would’ve been so horrible if he didn’t.
The window was probably opened by a potential thief
And Martin chased the motherfucker down. That’s why he was gone. Your cat is a hero, and you should cook him a steak. Good thingg he came back
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Bahaha, I wouldn't put it past Martin.
He’s a tough little dude. I thought about giving him a whole can of tuna (his favorite food by far) but thought that was a bit much. I gave him two treats instead.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I have a beer question.
What is the difference between a porter and a stout? My wife asked me that this morning, as she was downing her pre-flight gin and tonic (something very odd about drinking a G&T at 5.25 AM), and I couldn’t really give her a solid answer.
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I no longer find anything odd about drinking at any hour.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
The only annoying thing is the OLCC
and the fact that bars at the airport don’t open until 6. So I went to the liquor store last night and bought two airplane-sized bottles of gin and a bottle of tonic, and as my wife was in line to check her bag she was standing there swilling gin. It was very rock-star-esque. Except for the fact she’s flying coach.
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Picturing that in my head makes me laugh
And then my head starts to hurt because of way too much beer last night
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I was just annoyed that I had to go to work and couldn't join her.
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I'm debating if I should go out tomorrow night like I had planned.
If I’m cleared to go back to work, I’m cleared to go out and have some drinks too, right?
Man do I love midgets.
I think the drinks part should come first, honestly
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Alcohol is a purifying agent
so it’s a health drink.
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Jager was originally cough medicine,
so I agree with this theory.
Man do I love midgets.
And conveniently I love the taste of cough syrup
Though I don’t really drink Jaeger much anymore, that was about the only thing I’d drink when I first was legally able, because it was the only alcohol that had a taste I could stand
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Both use roasted malt
Stouts also add roasted barley.
Oatmeal stouts obviously add oats.
And since I’m probably alone in this, let the record show that one LL’er prefers oatmeal stouts to the syrupy chocalate/cappuccino stouts that are now in vogue.
Oatmeal stouts are my preference too.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Thirded.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Nov 13, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you on that
Oatmeal stouts are great.
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Huh.... didn't expect this reaction.
Although, at first glance, it would appear that the oatmeal stouts appeal to men of… experience.
Old people for oat beers!
Like I said yesterday
coffee’s the only disqualifier for me as far as stouts go. I really like them when they’re not coffee-flavored.
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I like oatmeal stouts too
I just like all stouts. Except milk stouts.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 13, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently not.
So nevermind. I thought they used milk chocolate.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I've already had a nap this morning and it's only 8.30.
Getting up at 4 sucks.
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a much more socially acceptable alternative, that
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Do you lift on your own or is that a part of normal practice?
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We have team lifting in the mornings.
Tomorrow shouldn’t be too bad, we have a game the day after tomorrow (Saturday).
Me too
Of course I got completely sauced last night and was up until 3 playing Rock Band with some friends. I feel like 150 lbs of birdshit right now
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
You were out of the butt, and into the fuck.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Nice pickup
now GO COUNT YOUR DICK!
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
I started in 1989 (when I first really started to pay attention to music)
but have since moved back to 1988. My familiarity is a little spottier in ’88, though.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
So my boss is having me rip this
60 minutes segment so he can use it in a board meeting next week.
Is this the general perception about people my age? Am I really as bad as this segment makes me out to be?
I wonder how much this has changed in just the past few months, what with the economy?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
No idea.
At least now I kind of understand why my boss treats me like crap*
*Disclaimer: I really have two superiors. One is a pretty cool guy who’s up to speed with technology and loves to get me involved with all sorts of neat stuff. The other is an older guy who clings stubbornly to old technology and doesn’t treat his employees (especially me) with any sort or respect.
I don't know you personally
but I will say that I do notice something about Kids These Days. A lot of them (and again, I’m not being specific about you) have an completely overheated sense of entitlement; what a lot of high school and college and post-college kids don’t seem to understand is that you have to work for the things you want. They touched on this in the segment, but narcissism is a huge problem – I have a friend who’s a recruiter, and he always tells the same story when he’s asked questions like this.
About two years ago, he went to a college, set up an informational table, and invited students that were interested to come to his office and ask him about how to get started in their careers, and how to figure out what they wanted to do in five years, that sort of thing. One kid came into his office (he works for a pretty big consultant company in a pretty swank office) wearing shorts and flip-flops, sat down, put his feet up on my friend’s desk, and said “So, dude, what can you do for me?”
My friend looked at him, said “Nothing, have a good day”, and showed him the door. It’s that attitude – not “what can I do to get where I want to go” but “what can you do for me so I can get there”, that I see as the main difference between my generation and the one behind me.
I’m not making a value judgment here, and I’m fully aware that what I just described is by no means universal, and that there are as many entitled, spoiled people in my generation. The main difference to me seems to be that the generation behind me seems to view that sense of entitlement as their birthright.
On a side note, it’s really mortifying to realize that I can now refer to the existence of a younger generation than myself.
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Plus they wear flip flops to job interviews.
I realize this is my generation but…how can they be so idiotic?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
This is my question.
I don’t want to start sounding like a cranky old man, but kids aren’t seemingly held to any standards as far as societal behavior goes – at my uncle’s funeral a few years back, the wake was at his family’s house, and at the time his kids were both in college. His kids, of course, were dressed for a funeral, but at the wake all their friends came over to pay their respects, and several of them were dressed like they were going to a nightclub – miniskirts and flip-flops on the girls, and cargo pants and untucked shirts on the boys.
Again, I’m sounding like a crank, but it seems like parents have completely forgotten how to reinforce societal norms with their families – everything is let slide.
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This is what seems to be missing in a lot of families these days.
I’m glad that your parents brought you up right.
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I wear flip-flops 95% of the time...
But for job interviews I bought a nice suit and a pair of uncomfortable dress shoes and made myself look like something people wanted to hire. You know, except for the being a total nerd bit.
by James F'n X on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
I don't even own a pair of flip flops
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I don't either.
I should probably rectify that before I go to Cancun.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, just wear your dress shoes on the beach with some black socks
you’ll fit right in.
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At my summer work they always called me "Socks"
because I was the only person on the dock who would wear shoes and tube socks; everyone else wore flip flops
It was kind of a hassle when I had to get in the water to take my shoes and socks off, and when detailing people’s $80,000 boats it is a lot easier to just kick off flip flops than take shoes and socks off, but whatever
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Honestly I suppose I never notice these things about people my age
because I never hung around with people my age growing up. I never even worked with people my age. Most of my co-workers at my first employer were typically five to ten years older than me. At my current job my co-workers are easily fifteen to thirty years older than me.
It's a mutual thing for me
I’m in this to make a lot of money, and I will accomplish this by making my employers a lot of money.
by Graham MacAree on Nov 13, 2008 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
But does the existence of that construct exempt you from adhering to the company's norms?
(That’s not an accusation but a question)
A lot of people seem to think it does.
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Of course not
Political manoeuvreing dictates that I behave myself
by Graham MacAree on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't possess it when I was that age either
I used to think I knew everything, and wasn’t shy about telling people about it. I still think I know everything, but over time I’ve learned to pick my battles very wisely.
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I stay out of the interoffice gossip.
That’s one benefit of moving around quite a bit—you’re not embroiled in the gossip or the backstory. You don’t have to sink down to their level.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
For me office politics isn't so much interoffice gossip
but knowing who to please and who to be brutally honest with.
To me, politics and gossip go hand in hand.
You can’t be a wise player if you indulge in the gossip. Supervisors notice.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
Gossip is utterly useless to me.
So what if Mary Jane and Sue hate eachother? They both need computers and tech support to do their jobs.
I don't worry about the gossip
I play politics with my supervisors, not my colleagues.
by Graham MacAree on Nov 13, 2008 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
I'm famous around my work for not giving a shit about office gossip
if it doesn’t affect me, I don’t want to hear about it; if it’s speculation about something that might happen, unless I can influence the direction, I don’t care about it. This place runs on that kind of crap, which is really annoying, so at every meeting I attend, I try to cut it off as soon as it starts.
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I'm lucky enough that I have a few other options if this job for some reason goes belly-up.
I’ve never had to stress about things that are well outside of my control.
It seems a lot of people your age wouldn't answer in the same way
but I figured you probably would think this way.
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At some point I've got to start wondering if every generation goes through this "kids these days" bit.
Another thing that’s interesting is that I read a Wall Street Journal article on how young people in Japan are deciding that they want to have lives that are not necessarily work.
“Just 3% of Japanese workers say they’re putting their full effort into their jobs,” the article says.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure every generation does this, yeah
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I'd have to say yes. It's like going to college, I feel bad for the admin. people sometimes.
The similarity being every new crop brings up the same issues as the generations before, thinking they are addressing a freshly discovered topic. Whoopeedeedoo! Look at me! I’ve discovered “X”, and I’m going to change your way of thinking! Kind of annoying after you’ve heard it the third time around.
I’m guessing only 3% of Japanese workers believe they are putting their full efforts into work, because they are raised with a massive guilt complex that tells them they never put their full efforts into work. They should try harder or someone better will take their job, and the rest of their society will kick them off the island.
I didn't start thinking about kids these days until I hit about 37 or so
but the rapidity with which I notice “kids these days” things now is kinda startling. It’s like it went from 0 to 100 in just a couple years.
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and stop stealing my paper while you're at it, sonny
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I screwed that up.
And now I forgot what I was going to say anyway. Kids. Feh.
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You know what I hate about kids these days? Tagging!
That shit is everywhere, they even use little pain pens on the metal framework on the park benches. I haven’t seen a mirror in bathroom in this town you could use in about 5 years, they scratch tag the god damn things. I’d like to jam a paint can/pen right up some kids ass.
But it's Graffiti Art. Or some crap.
I’m just feeling crabby today because I pulled a groin muscle, I’m gimping around feeling old today.
It's crap now, true
I’m just saying that tagging used to mean something.
And some graffiti art is as good as modern art gets.
You should rub some Sombra on that groin!
I've never heard of said Sombra, but at this point I'm willing to try anything.
Never done one of these before, aren’t groin pulls supposed to hurt constantly? This one seems to come and go, mostly if I move my leg in a certain wrong direction. Then if feels like a cattle prod in a certain spot for a period of time. Maybe this is a pinched nerve.
The tags that bug me are the little name tags, like initials or something. Somebody put the same one over and over again all down a street near my house recently. Just didn’t make sense.
Agreed.
We used to use it in cross country all the time. Rub some Sombra on your muscles over your compression tights and your legs NEVER got sluggish.
It’s good for pain, just…avoid the balls. This part if of great importance.
This, pretty much.
I love graffiti that’s artistic. When I saw some Banksy pieces in the U-District last year it was like seeing a Matisse just kickin’ it on the sidewalk. It’s just that 75% of all graffiti is done by people who are bored and talentless.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
I saw a Banksy exhibit in London last year
it was truly amazing stuff.
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We had Banksy ones here, too.
The Grey Ghost got ’em
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
The city's "graffiti rangers" didn't catch them until they'd been up for about six months or so.
When they were painted over I almost cried.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Where the hell did Banksy tag in the U-District
and why wasn’t I notified?
All over, but I saw the tags in the Trader Joe's parking lot every day on my way to work.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I think some of the Banksy stuff people see are mere stencils done by people imitating him.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
On a related note,
girls are hella busy over here! WTF. If they are of college-age, it’s damn near impossible to schedule a date. They have school and part-time jobs, and internships and other stuff. Plus it doesn’t help that they usually live at home, and Japanese mothers are generally very strict.
Dammit, more living less working/studying.
It's a multifaceted problem, obviously.
I’m not at all a fan of my generation. There is undeniably a sense of entitlement, a lack of social refinement and a complete and total unwillingness to make any sort of sacrifice. I don’t think the majority of people that belong to my generation have any idea how society works: they do things like wear flip-flops to job interviews because they don’t understand why they should ever be anything less than 100% comfortable all the time. They tip poorly (or not at all) at restaurants, bars and coffee shops because they don’t understand why the people working those jobs deserve anything “extra” for doing them. They treat people in the service industry like crap because many of them never had summer jobs in retail, and if they did they didn’t actually try to to do them well. More than anything, they don’t understand how good they have it.
My girlfriend works for the Seattle Public Library. A lot of the more pedestrian work is completed by high school kids. They make ~$14 an hour and are pretty much guaranteed a secure, flexible, respectable job all the way through college and an entry-level position with a Government agency, paying upwards of $20 an hour (depending upon the degree they pursued in college) upon graduation. I would have killed for that when I was their age, and anyone that worked fast food, washed dishes or stocked grocery store shelves for spending money likely would have done the same. But the majority of these kids treat the job as an unpleasant obligation that is way beneath them rather than a blessing. They treat people like my girlfriend, who is 25 and a college graduate and is planning on making library work her career, as some sort of freakish pariah because she’s a library assistant instead of an IT worker or paper pusher. The people her age that worked at the library in high school and have higher level jobs are even worse. This sort of behavior is a symptom of wealth inequality and the belief that anyone who doesn’t have the same goals and aspirations that you do is lazy and contemptible, or that anyone who didn’t have the advantages you did when they entered the world is somehow beneath you. It’s a sadly prevalent opinion amongst the people in my generation, and I dislike it more than any other trait.
On the other hand, this generation is absolutely correct about a lot of things. The belief that the working world should be a meritocracy rather than a world in which seniority is valued most of all is an absolutely correct one. (The Bavasi years should have taught us that, if nothing else.) There’s a tremendous amount of distrust of and disdain for our parent’s generation, and really, can anyone give me a reason why we shouldn’t feel that way? The problem is not these beliefs themselves, but the way in which they manifest themselves. Because this generation understands that the corporate world is kind of fucked and dysfunctional, they don’t understand why they should have to “play the game” so to speak. And employers push back just as hard by refusing to hire anyone with tattoos or piercings, by refusing to attempt to acknowledge the ways in which the working world doesn’t function correctly, and by refusing to try and communicate in ways which are more effective.
//end rant
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Very well put.
This is the key, I think:
More than anything, they don’t understand how good they have it.
As for the corporate-hierarchy thing, I think the nice thing about the 21st century is that there are places where people who don’t want to “play the game” can go; there are any number of startups, tech companies and whatnot that are purely meritocracies. It seems that people get upset when they get into a situation that’s NOT a meritocracy mostly because they don’t understand how the game works – and they don’t understand that they can opt out of the game at any time.
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The only problem with a meritocracy is that a lot of people my age thing they're God's gift to whatever it is they do.
So when they ARE forced to compete with other highly qualified people, they can’t handle it if they lose out. They don’t know how to process failure.
This knowing how to deal with failure thing is my leg up!
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I love watching entitled people fail though
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It's hilarious, certainly.
The point I was trying to make is that people think they want a meritocracy because they think they are (in the parlance of our times) “hot shit” but when they find out that it is more accurate to say they are (again, in the parlance) “cold diarrhea” they realize that what they’re really after is security.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
This is just more reason to love a meritocracy.
I get the satisfaction of knowing that if I do my job well I’ll be compensated accordingly AND I get to see overconfident people fail.
Yep.
A couple gigs ago, the VP of IT set up this somewhat ruthless system where new people were basically worked so hard they were crushed like grain into flour, and the ones that survived this nearly year-long indoctrination were then given cushy, not-quite-as-hideous projects for their next few assignments as a reward for swallowing their egos and learning how to function in a group of people.
The failure rate of this program was about 60%.
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I don't really like that approach either though.
I suppose you can’t argue with results, but it seems like there’s a middle ground there somewhere.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
There is, but that middle ground always results in nothing getting done
because it usually ends up being non-stop negotiation over what’s expected. I don’t really like the grind-em-down approach, either; I’m really happy to be working where I am now, because it’s a noncompetitive industry. They innovate, and they make change, they just do it on their own terms and at their own pace. I was really close to bailing on the IT treadmill until I landed here.
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I hope to work in a noncompetitive industry/for a government agency when I begin my real career.
Working in a dying industry in a terrible economy has taught me the value of job security.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I have to recommend it very highly
I never thought I’d be happy in a place like this, but I realized this year that I have very little ambition as far as work goes, so I’m in the right place – I learn just enough to keep me interested, and I work hard while I’m here, yet I never have to work overtime and my workload doesn’t really make me break a sweat most days.
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My ambition at work is to perform well.
I have no desire to bust my ass to make it to the top. The top seems like a terrible place to be. I’m never going to make a bunch of money (unless I luck into it somehow by being in the right place at the right time) so all I care about doing is making my employer’s investment in me worthwhile.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
That's pretty much my goal too
not to embarrass myself, and to walk away at the end of the day/week knowing that I was worth the money they’re paying me.
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At the same time, I can't be lazy.
So even though I know I’m worth well more than I’m being paid now, I still bust my ass even though there’s no way I’m ever getting a raise again.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
That's a good thing though
even if it doesn’t pay off where you are now, it will at some point.
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My thing is that when I'm at work
I find it way way more difficult to do nothing then it is to do something- as a result I’m productive
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I could just sit on my ass and watch movies all day if I wanted.
Most of my customers think that’s what I do anyway, and my boss wouldn’t notice.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
But that gets boring and feels pointless
You punch out at the end of the day and you feel like you’ve just wasted your time for 8 hours
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I don't disagree, but plenty of people do just that and are fine with it.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
I envy these people
I start to feel depressed when I try to pull that
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I've tried to convince myself that since I make about 60% of what I should make
that I have every right to do 60% of the work I normally do, but I just can’t bring myself to do it.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
I miss my government agency being forward-thinking...
Actually, my division moreso than my agency. My agency is still a front-runner in state government, but my division has gone so far in the opposite direction, we’re completely undoing all the work that helped win my agency a Webby award…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Nov 13, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
$14 an hour!?
My first job paid minimum wage and I was thankful for it.
Yep.
Plus entry into the City of Seattle retirement program at 16 (or whatever.) My first job was flipping burgers at Eagan’s in West Olympia, and my second job was doing janitorial work at TESC. I’m 25 and I’ve never made $14 an hour; my salary averages out to about $13.75. The “lowly” job my girlfriend does pays almost $18 an hour with guaranteed COLAs and quarterly performance reviews. Seriously, these are good jobs, but because they don’t pay $75,000 entry level salary they’re treated like toilet scrubbing.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I was extremely lucky
my first job, in 1986, paid $7.25 an hour, it was a summer job at the school district where my dad worked. My next job was washing cars at a car lot, and that paid something like $3.50. That did more to teach me about money than anything.
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I think after that $7.50 job
I didn’t sniff $5 an hour for at least two years after.
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Do they really make jobs that offer $75,000 entry?
That’s bullshit- I was looking forward to making $30 straight out of college
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They really don't unless you live in NYC/BOS/CHI and are a financier
but that’s what a lot of today’s youth are conditioned to expect.
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They do, but they're not as common as people my age think they are.
That first job offer for many people is like a glass of cold water in the face.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Depends how your grades and experience are
engineering in CA starts around 60-70 right now, and I’ve heard as high as 75.
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
That's CA though
where the cost of living is through the roof
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And to be honest, I'm rather on the low end of the pay scale
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Masters doesn't make that huge of a difference in starting engineering pay
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
And no, I don't
not going to get one in engineering, either
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
A friend of mine was offered 75 right out of college in Montana.
Just depends on what you do and how good at it you are.
The one thing I will perpetually be grateful to my parents for is kicking me out of the house in the summer and saying "Find a job"
My first job paid $7/hr and I went to work, washed dishes by myself for 200 people at a camp, and punched out. I loved it.
There is nothing I enjoy more than an honest day’s labor and I think that’s really something that’s disappeared with my generation and it makes me sad.
It reminds me of a conversation I had over and over again with one of my co-workers who I used to work nights with. It went something along the lines of
Me: OK, I’m going to go rake the beach?
Him: Why?
Me: Because I get paid to rake the beach and the beach needs to be raked
Him: But there’s nobody here, who cares
Me: Yeah, but that’s what we get paid to do, so I’m going to do it
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I really like doing an honest day's labor
but I do a desk job instead because it pays better. I should have joined a union when I was just out of college and learned a trade.
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and for some reason my parents have not exercised this tactic on my sister
I don’t know if it’s because she’s a girl or what but she’s about ready to graduate high school, has never worked any sort of job, and has no clue whatsoever what money is worth
Hell, my parents spent $8,000 to send her to fucking Japan on a “leadership program” or whatever and to my knowledge never once did she so much as thank them for that opportunity
I keep telling my parents to make her get a job and they keep saying they will but they never have
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I'm still confused about why you were paid to rake a beach
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I was an "Outside Service Attendant" at a 5 star hotel
Essentially I rake the beach so there aren’t footprints on it twice a day, clean the pool and monitor the pool chemicals, verify that there are towels outside, perform maintenance on the hotel’s fleet of boats, take care of member and guest boats, and stuff like that
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and that's for $9/hr + tips
generally working 50-60 hour weeks because we were understaffed
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Ah, got it.
That actually sounds like a pretty sweet job. Except for having to deal with the people that stay at 5-star hotels.
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It's a great job
And yeah, there’s two totally polar opposite kind of people there, those that tip well and don’t ask you to do anything and those that make you do a ton of work and don’t tip at all while bitching about the hotel
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He's obviously trying to tell you something.
Bahahahhaaha… haha… ha
I’m generation Y, so I am caught in between X and Millenials. My soul doesn’t know which way to go.
If I end up like that somebody please kick me in the balls until I stop
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BOTD...
The best part of waking up is bacon in your cup.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I want some right now.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
This place is dead today.
Did we finally run out of things to talk about?
I'm struggling to stay awake at this point
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Super hangover working on setting in at the moment
And I’m playing Mirror’s Edge.
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
I hate you*
*I don’t really hate you but I am very envious.
Fair warning though
It’s HARD. Like it gets tough real quick. But it’s incredible
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
I think I'll like the game
Mostly because IGN gave the game a shitty rating and I never agree with IGN.
IGN is shit, so you are good there
And if you liked the demo then you’ll love the game. It’s really intense. Getting shot at while running full tilt to a door that’s 100 yards away, and having to jump a 30 foot gap to get there at the last second is crazy
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
So I'm filling out an online application and I am to list all the residences I've had over ten years.
I have moved at least twenty times in ten years. I don’t remember my addresses.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions
I had a stretch like that a few years back
I listed city and state, and approximate dates, That seemed to satisfy most people.
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The problem is online application.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
OK
1) I would steal/copy the talent of an insane drummer – pick your favorite here… Brian Chippendale, Chris Weingarten, young, non-drugged Keith Moon, etc.
2) Doing work that will never go anywhere; knowing some project is dooooomed but cranking through it anyway. Some people really hate this, and I think I used to. It’s familiar now, but can still be rather annoying.
3) The sharif really, really doesn’t like it; this particular sharif was allied with the theocratic Salafist Group for Call and Combat, having came of age in the Armed Islamic Group. He’d fallen in with Ali Belhadj before becoming sharif of a small tribe in Tamanrasset province (city of Tazrouk). Fitting with his ideology (which he has formally repudiated as part of the cease-fire agreement), he is against public dancing, and especially against jet-pilots.
4) It kind of has to be “Take On Me” by the Norwegian sensations A-ha. The Family Guy parody of this video is a classic moment.
5) I shoot Mussolini and Hitler. I sit Mr. Gorelick down and threaten him with violence if he doesn’t move away from the insipid balladry and back to his roots in the band Cold, Bold and Together (which you can hear on the ’Wheedle’s Groove’ compilation from Light in the Attic Records). I’m not terribly tempted to shoot musicians who use their talent in completely bizarre, incomprehensibly dumb ways. I used to be, but that would seriously have to become my life’s work, and I think I’d tire of it.
Eh, not my bag.
But sure, that’d work.
Honestly, Neil Peart starts veering into the undeniably-talented-so-why-are-you-doing-that territory for me. But I have no quarrel with the Rush fans of the world.
Answers
1. I would steal Ben Folds’ ability to play the piano.
2. The glacial pace of change and the political roadblocks.
3. I don’t know, but over at the temple, they really pack ‘em in.
4. I do not possess a nostalgia gene, and I despised almost all 80’s mainstream music.
5. I shoot myself.
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I'll be dead, the bullet can be wasted for all I care
or maybe at that point HItler will pistol-whip Kenny G and put the last bullet into Mussolini’s head.
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My turn
1) As a guitar player I’d choose something along those lines. But since I have a new favorite guitarist every other day it seems, I’m not sure who I’d pick. Hmmm, today I’ll go with J Mascis
2) The thing that annoys me most about my job is the same thing that I love the most about my job – I get to live overseas.
3) I think Shareef is just posturing.
4) Panama, hands down.
5) I’d shoot Mussolini twice. That way I’d get the pleasure of beating Hitler to death with my bare hands. This would probably scare Kenny to death. Bonus!!
How often do you get home?
How long’s your tour?
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I'm generally home once a year, more so if there's a wedding or some like-event that requires my presence.
I’m 5 months into my current tour, which is 4 years. This will likely be my last one as I hit 20 years at the end of it and can retire.
20 years. Holy crap.
You have my unending admiration.
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Well it's not like it's been really all that difficult
I got to live in Germany for 8 years. And these last few years are cake, I only wear a uniform twice a year. For 4th of July and the Marine Ball, otherwise I’m pretty much a civilian with all of the benefits of being in the military.
It's a spiffy uniform, by the way.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
After basically having the same hairstyle since I was in high school
it’s the only thing my hair will do anymore. At least I still have it though.
But you've still committed 20 years of your life to serving your country.
I wasn’t ever even a Cub Scout.
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Lizzy Caplan is my new Hollywood crush.
She was quite attractive in Cloverfield, but AMAZINGLY hot in True Blood.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 9:29 AM PST reply actions
I need to catch back up with True Blood
I watched the first few, and I liked it pretty well, but I haven’t set up the DVR to record it yet and I keep forgetting it’s on.
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It's nothing special.
The lack of anything else on TV right now is the only reason I’m watching it. That, and my allegiance to Alan Ball.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
I kinda like it actually
I like the fact that it’s got a really languorous pace, and I really like a lot of the secondary characters – I’m still not crazy about the main vampire dude, but I’ve only watched I think four episodes.
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I don't mind the show (or the main vampire dude)
My problem is that the main character sucks. Sookie, in addition to having a remarkably dumb name, is a terrible character being played by a not-very-good actress. Tara’s an interesting character and that actress has done an amazing job with her.
Yeah, I was kinda disappointed in Sookie
which is too bad because I really like Anna Pacquin. Tara’s probably my favorite character on the whole show so far.
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And according to IMDB
this is pretty much the actress’ first serious acting gig, which makes it all the more impressive.
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Oh I've been watching that.
These are the shows I watch:
The Office
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Ghost Hunters
That’s it.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Yes!!!
I was worried about that episode after seeing the teaser (but also really excited). It turned out to be awesome. I loved when Dennis and Mac were dressed as fops.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
These days I'm watching
House
Mythbusters
Storm Chasers
Deadliest Catch (when it’s airing)
Some 24-26 episode animated serial novella that was produced in some far-eastern country.
More answers
1.) Arturo Sandoval’s trumpet skills. Seriously he’s a freak.
2.) Student, no job.
3.) Shareef had a job at an Investment Bank, and to conduct business from the Casbah required him to wake up extremely early. Rocking the Casbah caused him to be bleary eyed in the moning.
4.) Anything 80’s was ridiculous
5.) I tell Hitler and Mussolini to fight to the death or I’ll shoot them both. Kenny G is forced to play polka music while this happens, lest he be shot too. Whoever wins Hitler v. Mussolini then will shoot himself because he’s stuck in an elevator with Kenny G. I use the last bullet to shoot Kenny G in the leg and make him promise to never play music again. The world rejoices.
5.)
I will accept any draft combination of Crabtree, Andre Smith, Stafford, and Mays. Hear that Ruskell? Time to start spreading vicious rumors about all 4 so they fall.
5.) again? nice proofreading, me.
I will accept any draft combination of Crabtree, Andre Smith, Stafford, and Mays. Hear that Ruskell? Time to start spreading vicious rumors about all 4 so they fall.
Following on with my comments yesterday
about not caring about the Carling Cup, it looks like I might now be able to not care about the FA Cup, too. For those of you not football-inclined, this proposal would be like having the play-in team at the NCAA tournament be made up of the best college basketball players from 1988.
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It feeds the insatiable English appetite for nostalgia
Honestly, I have never met a people that are more backward-looking than the English. Granted, there’s a lot to look back on, but in a footballing sense, not so much. It’s basically a way for the FA to try to squeeze a few more dollars out of the Cup.
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At the same time, your club makes up new words.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
If we can't win things we'll reinvent the language
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I promise I will not let you know the outcome of the game before you've had a chance to watch.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
I appreciate it but it won't be an issue
I’m not heading to Seattle, so I’ll watch it at home – KO’s at 7AM, so I’ll get up in the morning and watch the game first thing. My computer’s not where my TV is, so there’s no danger of finding out a result…
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I likely won't have anything to boast about, anyway.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
They're playing a team that lost to Stoke City and Fulham
I wouldn’t write off Villa’s chances just yet.
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That show has gone down the tubes in my eyes recently.
I hate hate HATE the scripted segments of the show.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
I was trying to think of a way to present that idea without sounding like a pig
This method worked, but I couldn’t limit myself to mentioning her without writing more than that. She’s my TV crush
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
*swoons
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
This show and House are the only two things I really use my DVR for
Those and the occasional episode of Man vs. Wild.
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I've never really liked Bright Eyes or Conor Oberst or whatever he calls himself
but I’m listening to a live show he did recently (as Conor Oberst) and it’s actually quite good. The nasal whininess of his voice, which is what annoyed me the most about him on record, is almost nonexistent live.
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okay, this show's starting to annoy me now.
I like the rock Conor Oberst far, far more than the whiny confessional Conor Oberst.
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Answers:
1. Slash or Kim Thayil – two incredible guitarists.
2. I’m not paid adequately for the work I do. Probably because I don’t have a college degree.
3. Shareef can suck it.
4. Any video by Twisted Sister
5. Kill Kenny G. Gain the respect of the two others, then turn on them once out of the elevator?
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Also, Victor Wooten's bass skills would be nice.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
My turn:
1) Guitar playing ability. Anyones really, I just want to know how to play, and I’ve yet to find time to take lessons.
2) Right now, the fact that my IT guy sucks, we have software that was found at a fossil dig, and my boss is pissed off because I’m sick (with a doctors note).
3) As neither the Shareef or the Casbah is or was a midget, I have no comment.
4) I Want My MTV.
5) I save both bullets and cough in their faces. Once they catch what I have they’ll take the gun from me and find a way to kill themselves.
Man do I love midgets.
So I'm off the plane, on the shuttle to the casino.
Fuck I forgot how crappy MS is.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Memphis.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
That's cruel. It's like, look, civilisation--and then no.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Memphis is only civilized for about one square mile though
once you get away from Beale St and downtown, Memphis is terrifying.
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Still it would be more fitting to fly to Jackson.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
I'm on the northern tip.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I know, but it's still a more fair intro to Mississippi.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
The airport is on the southern outskirts.
There was nothing but gas stations and highway.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Every time I hear the name of that town I start singing Johnny Cash.
We got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper sprout,
We’ve been talkin’ ‘bout Jackson, ever since the fire went out.
I’m goin’ to Jackson, I’m gonna mess around,
Yeah, I’m goin’ to Jackson,
Look out Jackson town.
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I hope he was talking about Jackson, Tennessee.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
That's an excellent question
I know not which Jackson this song is about. I just assumed MS, but I could be wrong.
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I enjoyed that video of Franz Reichelt.
Why would test a thing like that with yourself? Either make a dummy or pay a hobo off the street to do it.
I really hope magazines don't go away
because I really, truly love the one day a month when my Esquire shows up. Always-stellar writing, good clothes advice, and this month four, count ’em FOUR, different chili recipes. Awesome.
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you should know better than to call him that
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I can't decide if this is because he looks like Upton, or because his eyes are closed like he's asleep.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I lived in southeast D.C. for a year.
My roommates were the only white people I saw for weeks at a time. I don’t need a lecture on black people.
I'm debating getting caught up in yesterday's thread
Did I miss anything of importance? There are almost 900 comments to catch up to (I left work at 2 and basically started drinking at 4 yesterday).
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Looks that way, now that I'm poking through it.
I just closed the tab after going through a bit of it
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Check and check
My head hurts, and Mirror’s Edge is NOT helping that. I’m done for now
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Still sick, but going into work against doctors orders anyway.
Apparently I’m the only person who can solve a f**ing problem at that place.
Man do I love midgets.
Imagine how quiet it's going to be next week, after everybody comes down with what you've got.
And you are over it, like giving yourself a vacation at work. Make sure to get it onto all the door handles, don’t forget the coffee/break room.
I'm licking everything as I go.
On the plus side I burst through the door with my “no bullshit” mask on, and had everything fixed in about 15 minutes. At least the boss is apologetic and told me to take tomorrow off if I wanted too. We’ll see how far I get today. No point in driving all the way to work for a short stay. I figure I might as well bust my tail and get some shit done.
Man do I love midgets.
by Thingray on Nov 13, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dayman! Fighter of the Nightman!
Anyone see the Blazer game last night? Two road wins in a row has me ready to reserve playoff tickets.
easy there killer
The Blazers won 13 in a row last year and didn’t make the playoffs, let’s give them a couple months to see how good they are.
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You're not wrong
But the last couple of wins have really made me hopeful. We did NOT play well against Dallas or Miami, and we still managed to find a way to win. Those games would have been losses last season.
I’m thinking anywhere between a 6th and an 8th seed and a competitive first round exit and I’ll be ecstatic.
Cliff Lee won the AL Cy Young
so there’s that. Link.
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Meh.
If he is, then it’s not by much.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry is one of the most beautiful songs ever written.
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Curiously I like the Mike Ness version better
but then I’m not a huge Dylan fan.
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Willie's 'Hello Walls.'
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Maybe your office is conducting a social experiment on you.
Also, if a man approaches you to jump into a volcano, do it.
That was definitely bad
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
This was a hit and run hello
I have been busy today
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
What's happening?
I’m hung over, which makes for a not so fun day off. You decide to work late today for extra overtime?
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Ended up deciding to just work it yesterday, so I'm working a normal schedule today
but I got in really late, so I still won’t get out until ~6:30
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I was going more for the Japanese "yes"
but whatevah
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I'll take a swing before I go back to my overloaded desk.
1 – I’m gonna cheat, because who cares? Tchaikovsky. I can play many instruments, but I would love to be able to write powerful music that includes hundreds of instruments.
2 – Our production manager is a passive-aggressive, superstitious freak who is afraid to tell anyone what to do.
3 – Shareef and I are cool.
4 – Video killed the radio star.
5 – Pistol whip all three. Take the elevator to the top and throw them all off.
I'm somewhat surprised no one has said
“Shoot Kenny G. Twice.”
I just ran across a site featuring really stupid Halloween costumes, and I believe this is my favorite.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
HOLY DUMB FUCK
What the hell. And why no link to said website?
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Even more.
This one had me laughing through tears.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
You're full of Tourette's Guy quotes today.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
AND YOU CAN GO TO JOLLY PIRATE DONUTS AND TAKE A TWO HOUR SHIT FOR ALL I CARE
My head hurts
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
This is the opposite of awesome
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NOoooooo
The old paint was cooler
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Paint hasn't really changed since Windows 95
and it needed to remain that way
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Why the fuck did they redesign notepad?
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I guess I'm going to have to stick with XP
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The colors seem more vibrant
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How did nobody notice this
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She's more boyish than I am. Ick.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
I love Pink Floyd, but the song "Run Like Hell" is terrible.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 12:47 PM PST reply actions
you'd better run all day, run all night
Yeah, that’s not one of their better efforts.
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Don't think it's a good single
but in the context of The Wall it works pretty well.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
I still remember being in college
and thinking that The Wall REALLY MEANT SOMETHING DEEP, MAN. I still think it’s a great album, but man did we all overthink stuff in college.
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It doesn't mean anything really deep
But as an album it’s a masterpiece because of the pacing and the blending of styles, it feels like you’re watching a movie although you’re listening to a record.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
But things seemed much more laden with meaning in college. And there is of course the Alan Parker film of The Wall, which…well, when, uh, altered it seems really overpowering. Haven’t seen it in years, though.
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It's decent
but I feel turning The Wall into a movie is redundant.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
...and when I was 14, I used to think Led Zeppelin songs had meaning.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
I love the movie.
In fact, the movie version of “Mother” is better than the album version.
I back my statements up with evidence.
DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert in Pink Floyd, or mothers.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
That’s one of the things that I really disliked about the movie was the different version of Mother. Probably due to the fact that it was (and still is) one of my favs to play on guitar. The movie version is still good though.
Many of the songs are different, or at least different mixes.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
This is not worthy a stand a long fan post
but thought someone here might be interested http://jobsearch.mlb.careers.monster.com/
I got this in a monster spam email.
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
Considering the D-backs just laid off something like 5% of their front office staff
I’d probably exclude them from any MLB job search.
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I don't think I would want to work for any of the ball clubs.
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
I like to stay on the consumption side of sausage-making, myself
if I see how it’s made I don’t think I’d want to consume it any more.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Yeah I work in politics. I see first hand why cynicism is ramped.
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
WTF
The Yankees just got Nick Swisher
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We can still make diaries out of things that are diary worthy.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
round round get around Swish gets around
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So I've been asked to provide a status update on something I don't actually work on
which will make for a very interesting meeting indeed.
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Were you supposed to be working on it?
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Just say it's going quite well and all necessary parties have received necessary information
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I was going to go with something like
“the project is under way and I’m still awaiting status updates from several people” because the “necessary information” tactic usually results in follow up questions that I won’t be able to answer.
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I dislike professors who don't clearly outline a late paper policy
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I've got a high fever
didn’t sleep at all last night
and still haven’t started on the paper which is due in two hours and don’t have the mental capacity to write a quality paper right now
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That's when you go directly to the prof.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Is it too late to do that though?
Roll in an hour and a half before class starts and say “Hey, I can’t get the paper in?”
Won’t that look bad?
Does anybody know how to change the time an email was sent so I can send him an email now and date it last night?
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Sounds like you have what I have.
High fever, and it felt like my brain was melted.
Man do I love midgets.
Only when writing thank you notes to extended family
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When I was in college
my grandmother used to request that I send her typed notes because “her eyes were bad”. I had to tell her it was OK to tell me that my handwriting sucks. So no, I never use cursive, and I only handwrite when absolutely necessary.
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I learned it in 1994-1995
Who knows what has happened in the last 14 years
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1994 was 14 years ago?
Daaamn – what happened to those 14 years…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Nov 13, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
My handwriting sucks, I don't remember cursive,
and I type everything I possibly can.
Man do I love midgets.
Haha I remember that
Everyone in the room just started laughing
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My parents think cursive is very important
and insist I always use it, but that’s the only time they ever see my handwriting (when thank you note to Grandma gets posted on her refrigerator door)
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My grandparents and my parents all had that handwriting, but no one else I know.
I actually have splendid penmanship.
When signing my name (which looks nothing like letters)
Or when I’m trying to be overly cute.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta love the Code Red paperweight.
Man do I love midgets.
The heart at the end of NOLA
looks…um…yeah.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
My signature is in cursive.
I can’t write anything else in cursive.
I can't even print legibly anymore.
I hand-write maybe an average of two words per week, so my handwriting has become atrocious.
And cursive sucks. It’s useless and a massive waste of time for children who will abandon it by high school anyway.
If this reunion comes together
I will be more excited than ac was about The Sonics. They can call it the Rod Stewart Career Redemption Tour.
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Uh oh.
Is Rod Stewart going to bring his unique brand of redoing jazz and easy listening standards to the Faces?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
If the pre-90's Rod Stewart shows up it will kick much ass
if the godawful elevator music songbook-era Rod Stewart shows up I will be despondent.
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Oh the rhythm of my heart is beatin' like a drum
with the words “I love you” rollin’ off my tongue.
Never will I roam, for I know my place it home.
Where the ocean meets the sky, I’ll be saaaaaaaaiiilin’.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH ROD STEWART
YOU LOOSE-TIE-WEARING DOUCHEBAG GO AWAY AND BRING BACK THE BOOZY GOODNESS OF HAD ME A REAL GOOD TIME.
yep, I have some pretty strong feelings about the career path of Rod Stewart.
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I just remembered I'm going to see the Dirtbombs tonight
this day is guaranteed to end extremely well.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
and then just for grins I might go see Fishbone on Saturday
but then again that might just make me sad for how awesome they used to be.
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Are you making chicken and dumplings?
That would make my dreams come true.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I just bought Hornets/Blazers tickets for tomorrow!
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions
Congratulations!
You wasted your’re money.
by Robert on Nov 13, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Words cannot express the level of my jealousy.
But I’ll be watching so you should wear your Carmen costume so I can recognize you.
Late but why not.
1)-Buzz Osborne’s guitar playing ability. He’s way better than he gets credit for.
2)-The fact that I make about 60% of what most people in my position make while knowing that I am likely to never get another raise.
3)-He thinks it’s not kosher.
4)-Hot for Teacher
5)-I pistol whip all three of them until they’re knocked out, line them up in a row and let sweet mama physics do her thing.
J.K.L.
To come full circle from yesterday
I give you the otherwise-execrable Vampire Weekend, covering Plastic Bertrand.
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Have you heard the Headcoatees cover of this song?
Yes, I probably just need to post that subject line to the clipboard or make it one of the function keys.
But yes, it’s pretty awesome.
I have not
for someone who loves Thee Headcoats as much as I do I’m alarmingly light on Headcoatees stuff.
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It would appear that you are.
Maybe I’ll send it to you.
Maybe I'd thank you to do just that.
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Hard to say. It's possible.
(I’ve got it at home, so it’ll be a while. Most likely.)
I'm working on my resume...
I have often found “Objective” to be the hardest part of a resume. The rest is just facts.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 3:21 PM PST reply actions
Ugh, me too.
I hate cover letters as well. It requires walking that fine line between bullshit and honesty, sucking up and realism. I hate it.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I'm starting to feel more like I can do cover letters now.
Maybe that’s because I’m in business school, so to some extent I’m “learning the language.”
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
I personally never include an objective section
it’s relatively meaningless. A resume is the foot in the door; the interview is where you go into the details like what your objectives are. It’s often better to leave it out than to put a bunch of meaningless corporate-speak on there.
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Yes, when I re-structure my resume tonight and tomorrow, I will be omitting the objective from it
gives me more room to talk about what I’m good at, anyway
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Be short and to the point.
HR people spend about 15 seconds looking at your resume before they decide if you get an interview or not.
I'm working some on making it look prettier.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Use of any font other than Arial or Tahoma is not a good idea.
Be plain. Be clear. Be crisp.
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Tahoma is a good bet
I’ve got Times New Roman on mine, personally
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I usually stay away from it because it's the Word default
I want my resume to look a little different, but not too different.
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I noticed that so many people in my year were avoiding TNR like the plague that by using it, mine did end up looking different
and honestly, I think TNR is just a much nicer font than Tahoma, and I hate Arial
Then of course, our resumes didn’t like that different since we all shared the same header that was passed from person to person. Can’t have been too bad though, since we all got tech jobs =)
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I've noticed that the new Word default is Calibri
And for now, I somewhat like Calibri, but I know I’ll get tired of it.
If you apply for a job to me in Comic Sans, though, it’s an automatic rejection.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I've actually used Big Caslon for my body text recently, so long as I can send it in .pdf form
It’s a pretty nice serif font that has a little variation from Times New Roman.
Because God, I got sick of looking at TNR the past few years.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
This.
Also, when listing your accomplishments, be general, not specific – nobody outside your (current job/current class) knows what that acronym or department/system name means, so describe it instead of naming it.
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So...
Somebody from another office in the building I worked in used to bring the Oregonian comics into the bathroom every day. While I didn’t enjoy every single comic in there, I would read almost every single one.
It’s been about two weeks now, and no comics. I don’t know if the person is on vacation, or no longer works in the building, but I miss reading the daily adventures of Bucky Katt, Satchel Pooch, Pig, Rat, Goat, the Crocs, and Zeeba Neighba.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 3:24 PM PST reply actions
I love Pearls Before Swine and it's really the only thing I miss about subscribing to the PI.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
I finally went to comics.com
and signed up to have Get Fuzzy delivered to my in box every morning because it’s awesome.
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Comics.com doesn't have Pearls Before Swine, though.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
That's not good.
Can’t say I’ve really ever read that one, I might have to grab the Oregonian and check it out.
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Turns out comics.com does have Pearls Before Swine
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
they just totally changed their service and updated their website
they must have added a bunch of new comics when they did that.
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you say that music's for the birds, you can't understand the words
well honey if you did, you’d really blow your lid
cuz baby that is rock and roll
Man, that’s an awesome song.
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Need networking help
The wifi I leech off of at work has suddenly stopped working after 6 months of no problems.Whenever I try to connect, it instantly tells me that I cant connect, but strangely whenever I try on a new computer it connects perfectly until I delete the connection. WPA-2 and it appears that I know the password as I can connect on the new laptops.
Sounds like it kicked the IP address specific to your old compture out, maybe?
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Not to my knowledge-
BrianL would likely know more.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Try an ipconfig /release all
command in the cmd prompt. After that issue an ipconfig /renew command.
You have Vista w/ no SP? Or XP SP2?
There’s a WPA2 patch, or get the next service pack.
Also, see if you have new drivers for the Wifi card, as some older driver sets don’t support WPA2 correctly.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
This game is kicking my ass.
I’m all the way to level 6~5 (That’s 65 levels), and now I’m stuck.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Huh.
For someone whose resume includes composing the soundtracks to My Girl 2, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Free Willy 3, The Lizzy McGuire Movie, and fucking The Meteor Man, how does Cliff Eidelman compose the awesome soundtrack to Star Trek VI?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 13, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions
Day jobs pay the bills so that dream jobs can be taken.
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Wow, this Black Friday is looking like one of the most depressing ever
I can’t find one decent deal on something that I want…
Yes that's what is going to make it depressing all right.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
All the more reason to stay home.
Whenever I’m in a store on Black Friday, I ask myself: “How much would I pay for all these people to just vanish off the face of the Earth and for me to get back these 45 minutes of my life?” I think about it for a few minutes, and I usually come up with a figure that is higher than the amount of money I’m saving by subjecting myself to that madness.
For me, Black Friday is as much about the ritual of post-Thanksgiving adventure with friends as it is actually buying things
we’d be out and roaming Southern California pretty much regardless of the quality of the sales
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
It just drives me crazy because the stores have about three of everything they advertise.
I can never find what I want because I’m not willing to camp out and get trampled for it. I don’t want to fight anyone for a DVD player.
I plan to not leave the house on this day unless my cheerleading skills are required.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
So if I stay at work until 6 PM today, I will have put in 5.5 hours of overtime for the week and not be paid for any of it
However, if I stay until 6:30, I will have put in 6 hours of overtime this week and be paid in full at my hourly rate of $31/hr. Since the OT I’ve already put in is a sunk cost, from 6 to 6:30 today I will be making $372 an hour.
I feel like Willie Bloomquist!
Bahahahaha, sorry Mrs. PDB
15. Arizona State — James Harden gave a big boost to Arizona State’s program this offseason by announcing he would stick around for his sophomore year. Also giving a big boost to Arizona State’s program this offseason? The existence of Arizona’s program.
Hey, you like basketball.
Is there a reason WSU is getting absolutely no love this year? SI and ESPN don’t have them even making the tournament. Sure they lost their two guards, but Tony Bennett has done a lot more with less, and he’s got some solid recruits. I don’t get the pessimism.
Losing Kyle Weaver and Low is pretty big, wouldn't you say?
Seriously – it’s Taylor Rochestie running the point. Better hope that Klay Thompson kid is legit.
I think they’re a solid team – NCAA bubble maybe – but there’s simply no doubt that they’ve taken a big hit.
Yes, it's a big hit, but going from a top-15 team to not even among the top 65 teams or so?
I don’t know, I’m an alumnus so I’m biased, but I like Rochestie a lot. And while the kids Bennet has coming in aren’t UNC-level recruits, they’re supposed to be pretty good.
Middle of the Pac-10 is about what I’m expecting. Did the Pac-10 get worse this year? Because middle of the Pac-10 was an easy tournament berth last year.
The Pac-Ten is terrible this year
things like this happen when A. one team is sucking up a big percentage of the elite recruits and B. 20% of the recent NBA draft was from the Pac-Ten, including 7 of the top 21.
It’s pretty much the perfect combination for a down year for the conference
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Not making the tournament doesn't mean you're not one of the best 65 teams, though.
There are going to be a ton of teams that get into the tournament that aren’t better than WSU.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
Somehow "we're in the top 65" doesn't have quite the same ring as "we're going dancing!"
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Well, sure.
But the worst team in the Pac-10 is still better than most of the 16 seeds.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Only the second worst team in the Pac Ten
Oregon State is unfathomably terrible
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah but PAC-10 players are different
The dudes you see playing for mid-majors are dudes who were recruited to sit on the bench at major schools. The skill level is usually pretty similar, but athleticism is a big advantage for major schools. Plus, in college you don’t have to be skilled, just athletic and you can dominate. Once you get to the next level you can’t dominate without skills, which is why you see so many people flame out.
Good point.
I believe SI (which is really why I’m asking about this) factored that into its rankings, so that might explain why the Cougs are nowhere to be found. Gotta make room for Morgan State.
That drop happens all the time in college.
See Brandon Roy leaving UW. Weaver was amazing and will be missed.
No familiarity with the current players, and just like any other college sport where the talking heads have way too many teams to possibly cover, they get overlooked
and there’s always going to be more emphasis put on players over systems (and rightfully so). Also, probably just as importantly, the two guys WSU lost were really, really damn good.
I think WSU is a middle of the pack Pac-Ten team this year, right on the tournament bubble. I worry where the scoring is going to come from with them. The defense should be good… but Taylor Rochestie really isn’t the defender that Low was, and isn’t as good of a shooter (though I think he’s a better player overall)
The massive wild card of course is Klay Thompson. He’s the best player to come to WSU in years
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
I like basket ball and I like WSU not as much as GU
They just don’t have the defensive team they did last year.
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
P.S. the other problem I could see them having is failing to gel early on defensively
because 19-20 wins isn’t going to get it done out of the Pac-Ten this year without 12 conference wins. The conference is really down and honestly, UCLA is looking like the only big SOS booster out there right now
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
P.P.S. I just saw Brayden on Facebook and we're talking about basketball
how has he not joined in yet?
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Wait. Nevermind.
The time tags on these comments are messing me up. I feel like sometimes the time tags are Pacific time and sometimes they’re Tokyo time. They probably aren’t, I just keep confusing myself. Wow.
They don't sign bigtime recruits.
Therefore they don’t get bigtime attention. Then everyone is surprised when the whole “signing players that actually fits your system” idea works.
They signed some terrific players this season
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Certainly better than they have been getting.
But I don’t think they got anybody on the Top-100 list, did they? I could be wrong. People get wrapped up in recruit rankings, not realizing that high school and college is so different that top-100 are pretty meaningless.
Klay Thompson, a big SF out of California
national top 40-50 guy, can really put the ball in the bucket.
I agree that recruiting rankings are overrated, but as long as you take them with a grain of salt, they’re a good indication of who has the potential to be very good over the next few years
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Loderick and Roderick Stewart anybody!?!
That’s cool they got that dude though. I’m a WSU fan so it works for me.
Holy crap Memphis' schedule is laughably easy this season.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
They play three teams in the preseason Top 25.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
I'm so annoyed they didn't get picked up by a major conference.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody will touch them because they can't compete in football
except maybe the Big East.
Of course not being able to compete in football hasn’t stopped Vanderbilt from being in the SEC
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
When C-USA got gutted they had a decent football program.
But yes, historically they’ve been awful. Still, the Big East isn’t an elite football conference, and they took Cincinnati.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
I think the model UM needs to look at as rationale for joining the Big East is Louisville
primarily because of the location of the school. Cincinnati wasn’t as much of a stretch because most of the Big East is in the north
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
I thought about that, but Louisville has had a decent football program for years.
I personally think a move to a major conference would make UM’s football program a lot more attractive to recruits, but yeah.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Memphis does seem like a logical candidate for the next expansion
or if the Big East ever figures out how to get rid of Providence
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Also, we only play three teams in the preseason Top 25
albeit we play two of them twice
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yes but Memphis' conference schedule is a knock-knock joke.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Gonzaga has to deal with both Saint Mary's and San Diego
both of those teams would be top three teams in C-USA this season
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
More hilarious.
Conference USA is an abomination.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
but GU makes up for by Playing U conn and Memphis
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
Memphis plays Gonzaga, Tennessee and Georgetown.
Syracuse is usually good, too.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Tennesee looks to be pretty overrated this season
I’m not seeing where the shooting is going to come from and when your coach just wants to run up and down and launch threes, that can be kind of a problem
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Oh dear, I just realized that Memphis has Tyreke Evans coming in
now there’s a guy who should A. learn how to pass and B. be in jail right now
by seattlebruin on Nov 13, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, don't knock the WCC or I'll come after you.
Portland won it’s first game something like 93-36 this year! We’re still likely to be bad this year.
54!
We almost won the one where we were playing 4 on 5 at the end...
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
I almost wanted Gonzaga to win last year
because I knew Memphis was going to lose before the tournament and I didn’t want it to be to Tennessee.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Fail.
I’m far less worried about UA this year than next, and the year after that. They have no recruits, and probably won’t get any next signing season either.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Today was a weird combination of awesome and a punch in the throat.
Culminating in a stiff margarita around the corner from chubby toddler’s ballet class. She’s dancing, I’m drinking.
You guys good?
I know the name, but I can't spot it in the junction.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 13, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Across the street from Guaymas. Dark place, but huge.
It’s decent. They have slices of pizza that are bigger than my head, but I’m not here to eat. (And before any of you ask, no, I’m not having more than one. Gotta drive, after all.)
This week has been a ridiculous mix of highs and lows.
I’m still processing and not sure what to do, but I feel a major change is in my future.
So the NFL Network experiment is a massive failure.
Please stop. It just doesn’t feel right on Thursday.
I only remembered because the guy who runs my NFL pool sent out an e-mail telling everyone to get their picks in today.
And this is actually a good matchup. And I still don’t give a shit. Because it’s Thursday.
The guy who runs my local Radio Shack is fucking creepy
not worth it
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
If you wanted to mess with them
You could come in every week asking if you are eligible for a cellphone upgrade yet.
Finally got it?
Isn’t it awesome?
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I felt when I fired it up
How far into it are you (and no spoilers please, just say number of levels)
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Well have plenty of fun with it
It’s a blast, though you have to do the tutorial and demo level to start it off
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Very
It was giving me the spins earlier though because of the brown bottle flu I was dealing with earlier, but I plan on raging through it all night tonight. Playing Call of Duty right now, which I happen to find very enjoyable
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
This is why we must discourage the constant flip flop wearing.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
I have wide feet too.
They make shoes in widths.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
So can someone explain to a total math rtard like myself how to calculate WAR?
I’m trying to calculate Milton Bradley’s WAR, but I keep coming up with numbers I know aren’t correct, and I don’t know where I’m going wrong. This is what I’ve got:
(.434-.336) / 1.15 * 506 / 10.5 = 4.02 – 2.5 = 1.5 WAR
I know he was more than a 1.5 win player last year. Where am I going wrong?
J.K.L.
So where is the positional adjustment figured?
Or is that Wins Above Average where that comes into play?
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Positional adjustment.
That would seem to be my mistake.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
If you're using
this, it says:
(wOBA – .338) / 1.15 * 700 / 10.5 will give you wins above average.
. SO you substituted in the league average wOBA, you put in his wOBA (I’m not sure whether it should be wOBA or wOBA*, wOBA* would seemingly make more sense) and you substituted in his PA for 700. so that’s how you got [(.434-.336) / 1.15 * 506 / 10.5 = 4.02 ]. This is the Wins Above Average.
It says that average is 2.5 wins above replacement in the AL (apparently Dave and Jeff seem to think that this is too high but whatever), so you add 2.5 to 4.02, not subtract it. So now you’re at 6.52 WAR, but then it tells you that the positional adjustment for DH, which is where he played most of his games in 08, is 1.5, so you subtract 1.5 from 6.52, and you get 5.02. Milton Bradley’s WAR was 5.02
I’m sure J/M/G could probably explain this better and I might’ve made a mistake, but I think this is how you do it.
Okay I get it now I think.
Once you factor in playing time he’s a 4 win player, so his ‘08 season was worth about $16MM. That’s what I was trying to figure out. (I already knew the $16MM figure, but I wanted practice doing the equation myself.)
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
I'm firmly in the Bradley for DH camp
(assuming his injuries, and bad personality make it a bargain)
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
You good now? Or did you reconsider come the morning?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 14, 2008 4:41 AM PST up reply actions
I understood and accepted wOBA after I started to calculate them myself.
Perhaps I should do the same thing with WAR
by JI on Nov 14, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
This Jets/Pats game has been quite entertaining
I’m glad so many fans got to see this marquee matchup.
I'm at the mercy to what this guy with the raspy voice tells me.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Whe I first got cable there were three HD channels
and NFLHD was one of them
Fuck you Comcast
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
But as I used to say when Moss was with the Vikings
Randy moss is a little bitch and he is the reason is Vikings are losers.
by JI on Nov 13, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Just got back from a delicious plate of poutine at Smith. I am so satisfied right now.
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(And a half bottle of wine)
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okay so now I'm confused
and I don’t think it’s because of the several beers I’ve had. I thought poutine was a beverage? How is it served on a plate?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
French fries in gravy with cheese curd.
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that's odd
poutine used to be homemade liquor. Or am I insane?
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Did you drink too much of this so-called liquor?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Nov 13, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
I once drank a vodka called Putin.
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Ok, not really, but I should make a vodka called Putin.
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There's a vodka called Spudka.
It’s awesome.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 13, 2008 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Not this evening
but I have had something homemade that somebody called poutine before. Maybe it was just a small-town Alabama thing.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
"This har drank'll make ya poo, teen."
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by kevin_ess on Nov 13, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I believe the exact phrase was
“this shit’ll fuck y’all up somthin’ fierce”. And it certainly did.
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Ok...
A guy gets a new work shirt as a gift from his wife. She says, “Listen, you degenerate fucking drunk, you had better not go out drinking with your buddies tonight and get sick all over that shirt. It was expensive.”
Later at work, the guys tell him to come down to the bar at the end of the day, and he says he can’t. They keep prodding and prodding, calling him whipped and whatnot, and he caves in.
A few hours go by, and the guy is seriously drunk. Sure enough, he throws up all over his shirt. He’s mortified.
A buddy calms him down, and says, “Listen – put this $20 in your shirt pocket. When your wife starts tearing into you, pull it out and tell her it was me, and I felt so bad about throwing up on you, I gave you $20.”
Impressed, the guy goes home, and is of course met with disdain.
“You son of a bitch! I told you not to go out drinking! You threw up on that goddamned shirt!”
He says, “Nope. Rick did, and he felt so bad about it, he gave me$20. Go ahead and check, it’s in my shirt pocket.”
She pulls the money out and says, “But there’s $40 here…?”
He says, “The other $20 is from the guy that shit my pants.”
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That's goddamned awesome
I haven’t heard a good joke in a while. This joke changed that. Thank you
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I'm always good for this. I have years worth.
If you’re ever having a horrible day, I’m your man.
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Good to hear
Hey, you still need a router? The one I had to offer is still up for grabs, if you’d like
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yes!! I can't find mine anywhere!
How much?
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Yours for free
Pay it forward and all. Plus, I don’t know where the charger is for it, though I will check around tonight. Shoot me an email and we can go over details on getting it to you
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
You sir, are a gentleman.
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Zombie Jesus turns wine into water.
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It's decent. Ihappenedto be in the area. Actually, it's not bad at all.
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I could have conveyed that better.
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You could not be more wrong.
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I'm sure I could.
For example: The Seattle Mariners should have won 100 games this year.
My stance on poutine stands.
Touche
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I just got an email from Microsoft
I was selected to be part of the preview for the New Xbox Experience. I get to download it by tomorrow, and will be allowed to get online and everything with it still. Sweet.
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
I kind of feel like I won something
Even though it is just an early download of something that releases in 5 days, but still. I am just excited to install a few of my games and play them in silence. Plus I can finally play GTA again since my disc is scratched all to hell
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
That's awesome.
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Curb stomping a Mac fan.
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Please change. Your clothes stink.
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Throw me in as well
tootmykazoo
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Prettylilgirl22.
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Actually, it's probably Robert1234.
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That's hilarious! Mine is pretty bad too.
Although many ATMs don’t accept 12fuckyou as a pin.
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Yes. You get it.
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Triple bonus!
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
The gift that keeps on giving!
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Your're is the new wr9iong
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
no u
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
I missed that sig. What was it?
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Screw the avatars
I am stoked for game installs. Lower load times and no disc drive sound? I’m so on board
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
I miss the Matt Hasselslide being full background.
And with a 20 GB HDD, is neat but essentially useless
The sure was
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
I enjoy Pirate foot races
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
That's a two-legged race I want to see.
Would they make fire? I need a wooden leg.
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Fuck all that getting up and getting down.
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Sports Soup on VS. Channel. Slowly getting better. I'm amused tonight.
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I haven't watched that show yet.
I’ve meant to, but not made the time. Your endorsement (or whatever you want to call it) helps make me want to
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
OK, it gets better!
They’re making fun of a college football mascot trying to rally the crowd, except he’s got no energy at all, head down and simply sauntering on the sidelines. He manages to clap. That’s it.
They point out that he was trained by their own mascot, known as (get this) Scrappy the Downtrodden Stallion. Scrappy!
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Scrappy is spreading
Lock your doors!
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
It's a messed up world, my friend.
Scrappy lives!
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The first couple of episodes were pretty bad, but they're coming in to their own.
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Reply fail.
:(
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RC, where are you? I need my fill of your banter for this evening, my dear.
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I can attempt to occupy since I'm bored as hell
Though I am no RC
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
If you end up looking as good as her, I'm going to be confused, but take it as a sign that I need to get a new prescription.
If you are as sweet as her, cool. If you cook as well as she does, I have a free room here for you.
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Well, I think I'm a nice guy
Not as good looking by any stretch of the imagination (though I am a dashing fella). I can cook sometimes, but since I generally work late my son has dinner with his mom, so I can’t be arsed to do anything more than a quick microwaveable here and there.
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
That's me in a nutshell, as well.
My wife gets pissed – “What did the boy eat tonight?”
“I microwaved some leftovers for him.”
“Any fruit or veggies?”
“Can you microwave those??”
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Screw my reply fails. This is getting ugly. Damned wine.
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OK, time to dial it down, watch some midget porn, and eat some movie theater butter popcorn with liberal amounts of fresh ground pepper and salt added.
The pepper is a new must.
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Interesting.
Never tried pepper popcorn before
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Recent thing for me - I'm currently obsessed with pepper. Well worth trying, but I sneeze for the first few bites!
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Hey Robert, I hope you had nothing to do with this (obviously you didn't)

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Actually, Robert wrote both of those games. Kudos!!
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Look at the Xbox
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Ohmygod.
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Who the hell could screw that up?
I could understand if it was Wal-Mart or Sears or something, but this is a “tech” store, and it’s inexcusable
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
I am convinced that I work at the best radio shack in the country
Because we constantly have customers thanking us for being knowledgeable and polite.
You're a liar because that doesn't happen at Radio Shack
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
I realized that if I the nicer I am to customer the more money the spend/ quicker they get out the store and I get internet time.
You should write a book because you are 100% correct.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 14, 2008 1:32 AM PST up reply actions
Now that's not fair.
Robert makes it a point to work at places with knowledgeable staff and top notch customer ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry I just remembered Robert saying he used to work at Fry’s.
I quit Fry's because they warned me for spending too much time helping customers
Quantity over Quality
My buddy quit because he made a $7,000 software sale and got nothing for it
Not even recognition. He actually upsold the guy and everything
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Little bit after it opened
2 or 3 years, I think. Tall redhead named Kevin
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think that is when he was there, give or take
You may well know each other
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Other than a buddy of mine working there for about 8 months
I have never spoken to an employee in that store (Fry’s) unless I needed them to get something for me from the back (TV and Speakers I had purchased). Every time I go in there I make a straight line to get what I need and get the hell out
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
If you ever, EVER stop to browse
you’re fucked. The sales floor people will descend upon you like locusts.
Conversely
If you go in there wearing a white shirt and tie, you can totally fuck with the customers for shits and giggles.
That happens to me every time I go anywhere straight from work
Especially Best Buy and Fry’s. People always come up to me and ask me questions and I usually give them misleading answers to punish them for not paying attention
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
No hard drive though
It wouldn’t balance
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
It is, but it is upside down
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wait okay I get it.
Whoopdiedoodles.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 14, 2008 1:49 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed - and with that, goodnight. I've got to go to bed.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Fuck, I've done it again. Bed for me.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Man you suck at replying.
Have a good night
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yes,
and already have Had a good night). Good night.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Oh Christ. I'm done.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.
Yowza
Run, don’t look back
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Someone gave me a new Blackberry flip phone today. I don't think I like it.
Eh, I’ll give it a chance.
Nokia E71!
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry my precious I still love you.
We all need sleep sometimes.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 14, 2008 1:44 AM PST up reply actions
Seems pretty cool.
Plus it was free, so it should be given a fair chance
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it had launched already
If that’s the case, use it a bit to get a real feel for it. If you dislike it, then it’s a good time of year to sell something like that on Craigslist
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe it has. I don't know.
I get all kinds of free phones from my boss who works there, so it’s not like I’m stuck with it if I don’t like it.
You've got to be fucking shitting me.
I’m taking a business communication course right now because fuck perquisites. Last week I submitted a memo as part of an assignment. In that memo I detail my current employer, my field of expertise, and my job title.
My instructor just failed me on that assignment because I wrote “Information Technology Support Specialist” instead of (and these are her words “Computer Specialist.” Her reasoning was my big, four-word title sounded like I was talking down to the person I was sending the memo to.
YOU ASKED FOR MY JOB TITLE AND I GAVE YOU MY GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING JOB TITLE
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I HAVE BUSINESS CARDS THAT HAVE THAT TITLE ON IT
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
AND RIGHT ABOVE THAT TITLE IS MY NAME
BRIAN LARSEN
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
THAT CLEARLY IS MY JOB TITLE SO THAT'S WHY I SUBMITTED IT IN THAT MEMO
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I GAVE YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE FUCKING ASKING FOR
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A REAL JOB AND YOU'RE STUCK IN SOME DEAD-END
REWARDLESS COMMUNITY COLLEGE TEACHING POSITION DOESN’T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO BE SO GODDAMN PEDANTIC
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
AND FURTHERMORE DON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO MY JOB
I DON’T CARE IF YOU’RE SOME COLLEGE INSTRUCTOR IF I SAY THAT I’M GOING TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL TO THE IT DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ONLY I PROBABLY HAVE A REASON FOR IT
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
YOU KNOW WHY
YEAH THAT’S RIGHT IT’S BECAUSE I WORK IN THE GODDAMN FIELD AND YOU’RE JUST SOME BITCH STUCK IN PERPETUAL PMS THAT’S STUCK TEACHING BUSINESS ENGLISH AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
NO ONE EVEN CARES ABOUT BUSINESS ENGLISH
by BrianL on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Did she actually fail you for that?
I’m getting pissed off on your behalf and that won’t help. You’ve got a good job (with a great title, BTW) and are trying to better yourself and she is working hard to take that from you. Call her bad names
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
I'm actually going to submit her comments to her department head.
I suppose she has a thing against students who have real jobs.
Real jobs with normal and understandable titles
Computer Specialist? Seriously? I’m sure you’d love to only have to deal directly with computers at your job, and not deal with all the other bullshit there. But that doesn’t exist. Computer Specialist is what my friends and family refer to me as, not what your job title would be
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
My department is "Information Technology"
I’m the person that handles the helpdesk stuff, so I’m the “Support Specialist.”
Hell, not all of the stuff I handle at work is directly related to computers. I handle the phone and voicemail system, security cameras, and handle cell phones for all of the employees.
Bahahahahahaha
my boss just offered to send her an official company letterhead memo listing my job description, field of expertise, and job title.
He also offered to call her a bitch in the memo.
DO IT DO IT DO IT
That’s great
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 14, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
I would assume so
Because if this is the mean boss then that would mean your cool boss would have to be like a superhero version of Fonzie or something
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 14, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
That's what I'm saying
It’s ridiculous
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by tootthekazoo on Nov 14, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Challenge the fuck out of that grade.
Seriously, it’s well worth the hassle. Fuck that bullshit.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 14, 2008 1:35 AM PST up reply actions
This sounds like the same rant I constantly get from my fiancee
Graded down for stupid, pedantic little bullshit like that. That sucks dude. Sounds like teacher is uppity and thinks you were downtalking her
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
I've taken philosphy classes that were less pedantic than this.
I got marked down half a grade on an assignment for using “product” instead of “fresh product” on another memo.
That's fucking stupid
Information Technology Support Specialist is a fairly common job title in that field
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I mean "Computer Specialist"
sounds like you just sit in front of computers and look at porn all day
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Computer specialist could mean anything.
Could mean I’m in charge of the computer-controlled timecards. Could mean I’m a programmer. Could mean I physically build computers.
In the Tech Services department here at the University where I used to work
we have an Information Technology department.
Some of the people working in that department are called Support Specialists.
That’s the fucking industry accepted term for someone who works on computers, I mean at least “Computer Support Specialist”
but without the word support it’s stupid
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Bwahahahahaha, it's even more hilarious that every single company in the world has an IT department too
by seattlebruin on Nov 14, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
The tech guys within a company have been known as IT people for years now.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find the word “computer” in any of our job titles.
I hate the part of the morning when there is no off topic thread, but it's late enough there should be one.
Especially when I don’t have anything interesting to say to make one myself. Someone should get on that.
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