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Lineup

Los Angeles Dodgers @ Philadelphia Phillies

10/09/08 5:22 PM PDT

Los Angeles Dodgers Philadelphia Phillies
Rafael Furcal - SS Jimmy Rollins - SS
Andre Ethier - RF Shane Victorino - CF
Manny Ramirez - LF Chase Utley - 2B
Russell Martin - C Ryan Howard - 1B
James Loney - 1B Pat Burrell - LF
Matt Kemp - CF Jayson Werth - RF
Casey Blake - 3B Pedro Feliz - 3B
Blake DeWitt - 2B Carlos Ruiz - C
Derek Lowe - P Cole Hamels - P

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Derek Lowe 14-11 34 34 1 0 0 0 211.0 194 84 76 14 45 147 3.24 1.13

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Cole Hamels 14-10 33 33 2 2 0 0 227.1 193 89 78 28 53 196 3.09 1.08

So if Hamels doesn't pitch well this series the Phillies appear pretty much boned.

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Is he counting pitchers?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's see

Utley, Rollins, Hammel, maybe we’re including Lidge too.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...Hammel?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do, but you butchered that name with the name of a hilariousluy bad Rays player.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

South kitsap might as well give up on creating athletes, then.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Willie Bloomquist says

fuck you.

I, on the other hand, kind of agree.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Oct 9, 2008 5:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Werth was better. Burrell was better.

And Victorino was close enough that the position adjustment made him better.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 5:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends on how you adjust for defense

but not Werth, Werth didn’t play enough.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Regardless,

anyone who doesn’t vote for Pujols should be killed.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree.

I’m just saying that I could buy someone voting for Berkman under the criteria that his WPA was higher.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still refuse to use clutchness

unless it is to break a tie between to equal candidates.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 7:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here comes Tim Mccarver!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:00 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lowe...

Why M’s why…

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 9, 2008 5:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll probably be a yankee. :(

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, October

I wish I could say I missed Joe Buck

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 5:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is offensive

Why make the Phillies fucking broadcaster have to degrade to throwing out stupid cliches while reading the starting lineups?

He should be doing the god damn play-by-play, not being forced to read an idiotic script

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't care when it was recorded

It’s degrading to the announcer

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BECAUSE HE CAN HIT HOME RUNS FROM HOME WHERE HE SCORES

HOLY SHIT THAT IS HILARIOUS AND TOPICAL!!!

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Oct 9, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's just Mccarver "Freestylin'"

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disagree.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Oct 9, 2008 5:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was meh.

I hated how he was so god damned awesome nothing could stop him.

“What? Those terrorists want me to build shit out of scrap metal and easily obtainable materials? Fuck that, I’m building the most technological advanced machinery ever! Then I’m going to bathe in money and fuck that hot TV Reporter again. I’m so god damned awesome.”

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is almost like he's a superhero

or a comic book character or something.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Oct 9, 2008 5:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair enough

I thought that it was pretty good. I enjoyed Downey and thought the suit was super cool. Probably a case of moderate expectations more than anything else.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Oct 9, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The movie was devoid of any substance

If I have to sit through a bunch of dreck to see a bunch of action sequences, those sequences better be spectacular. They weren’tt.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Superman had kryptonite.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 9, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hamels just knows how to pitch.

I know it’s a cliche, but after watching Felix for so long, it’s refreshing to watch someone like this. He knows his change and breaking balls are his best pitches, and he uses them to set up his fastball.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 5:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looking at this GD screen, watching these pitches picking the corners.

Pretty fricking sweet to watch.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 5:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, maaybe not so much on the corners there.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 5:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The next time someone tells you that Player X

is a good defensive firstbaseman, ask them if that player can go into shallow right field and take away a double a la Albert Pujols.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 6:07 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I miss Greg Dobbs

now that he’s not blocking Leone

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 6:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who told Coach Owens I was in Switzerland?

and why?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 6:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

It's amazing how McCarver can be the #1 analyst

and have his own tv show, and I have yet to find a fan that doesn’t detest him.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 6:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gee.

I don’t think Tim much cares for Manny being Manny.

according to Fox, the Dodgers are managed by Legendary Manager Joe Torre.

by msb on Oct 9, 2008 6:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CHA-ASE UT-LEY

CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chase Utley: most underrated player in baseball

And I’m not exaggerating. He’s at least in the top 3

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's like if Bret Boone were a little worse

but much more consistent from year to year.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 7:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Boonie was a pure creation of [REDACTED]

Utley is the real deal. And as Gold Glove-caliber 2B, is so much more valuable than his mere batting line shows.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

He finally started getting some love with his early-season ass-kicking this year, but as soon as he stopped hitting a home run every day, everyone stopped talking about him again.

There’s just nothing that he doesn’t do well.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 7:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He slumped badly over the last few months

and it may have been injury related.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 7:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He hit .289/.393/.462 in August and September.

Less power, definitely, but he was still hitting well.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 7:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And as a 2B.

Brian Roberts might actually be more underappreciated in absolute terms (nobody outside of Baltimore seems to realize how good he’s been), but Utley is more underrated relative to his actual value.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pat Burrell looks like a bulked up Mike Mussina

AND THIS BULKED-UP MOOSE JUST HIT A HOMER!

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SEE ALSO: Adam Dunn

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

COUNTER: But what about Ryan Howard?

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clutch.

Wait til his RBI count drops or his average is hovering around .230

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 7:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LATE

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The HR gave them a lead.

Much more valuable than Utley.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2008 7:12 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WPA WHORE.

(I know, I know…I’m not an idiot, I get your joke.)

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Derek Lowe is collapsing like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:12 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Back in 1940?

GO TO BED, FAKE OLD MAN.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's our general predisposition towards automatically thinking that KOREAN PITCHERS = TEH SUCK.

Although ironically enough Chan Ho Park has been pretty decent out of the pen for the Dodgers this year too. Still, he’s the proud owner of one of the worst contracts in recent memory. Thanks, Mr. Hicks!

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bah, your numbers won't work on me.

I go on GUT and GRIT.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not as bad as which ever talking head that implied

the only reason Fukadome got a hit was because he was more comfortable facing Satio than American pitchers.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 7:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember last year (year before that?) Grady Little said that Kuo was motivated to pitch well in the postseason...

…because “it’s either that or he goes back home to South Korean and gets drafted into the army.”

I’ll admit, I laughed.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear Mr. McCarver:

When Cole Hamels throws a pitch 81-82 mph, it is in no way a “cut fastball.” According to FanGraphs, he doesn’t even have a cutter.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The problem is that "God Bless America" is a hokey-ass song.

You know what would be fucking awesome? If, instead, Northern teams sang “The Battle Hymn Of The Republic” (a genuinely moving song) while Southern teams sang “Dixie” (a great melody too).

I also like the regional warfare aspect of it.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, I'm going to disagree here and suggest that God Bless America has a place at sporting games

I get goosebumps anytime I’m at the park and God Bless America or the national anthem is sung. I love that kind of stuff

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 7:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what I meant to say

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 7:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know, I just enjoy the national anthem.

To me, it represents how sports bring us together, even in spite of athletic rivalries

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 7:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meh, I'm going to give up the point

I’ll just say that I like that part of games that I go to. I certainly think two songs is enough, but the national anthem especially gets me really excited for the game

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 7:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not trying to argue with you or anything. It's clearly a personal thing.

I just happen to loathe it along with pretty much any publicly forced demonstrations of nationalism.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2008 7:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The problem is that forced demonstrations are basically the only place to publically display your nationalism

Sure, I can hang a flag from my window, but as far as observing the national anthem there is no point in doing that in the privacy of your own home.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 7:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's obviously a matter of preference

I like people to know I like my country. This is unimportant to some other people.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 7:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm only in their way in the event that I'm buying food while the anthem is being played

This has only happened twice. If I’m out in the concourse I’m not really in people’s way. They can see me but it’s pretty easy to walk around me

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 7:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

`
I try to stand in high traffic areas where people are tempted to continue walking during the national anthems in the hopes of making others feel like assholes

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2008 7:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

High traffic areas means there are lots of other people there too

Some of which are probably standing either for the national anthem or not

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 7:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

`
I’m not really in people’s way.

by Matthew on Oct 9, 2008 7:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And bigger people push through them.

I don’t know what that jackass in front of me is doing, I just want to get in front of my seat and he’s standing there talking to no one.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 7:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because there is a social good in publicly reinforcing patriotic values

Not if it’s coerced. But there’s nothing wrong with reminding people that, hey, lots of people really friggin’ love this country and are proud to say out loud.

And that’s all I’m going to say on the subject.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That I agree with.

There’s no need to physically obstruct people. That’s just intentionally aggravating.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are like four holidays with parades that are specifically for this purpose.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 7:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not?

I do it at ballparks almost the same way I would do it at home. It’s stupid to only display your pride in your nation when people are looking at you

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 7:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see nothing wrong with encouraging patriotic gestures like the one you're talking about.

I’m viciously opposed to REQUIRING such gestures.

Whatever, the national anthem — however poorly performed by anyone at any time — just has a lot of meaning for me for personal reasons, like the flag does. It doesn’t chafe me if others feel differently, though.

And with that, I will stop abruptly before I veer into POLITICS.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh I highly do not think it should be required

I just like reminding people who want to do it to do it

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 9, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which is why I agree with you.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 9, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs