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OTFPOTD 10!/7! edition

This post fulfills my weekly OTFPOTD quota. It's not my best work.

And don't question my use of signs, I'm aware the multiplication sign is a stupid looking star on the computer, but if it were real life, it would be a dot placed between the two numbers.

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10-7?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think it is though.

As he mentions something about multiplication.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 9, 2008 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, Two Rs and Two Ls got it

is it weird that I typed your real name before I typed your SN?

10 = 10*9*8, or if the dashes were multiplication dots, 10-09-08

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I haven't.

I much prefer reading impenetrable essays by Louis Coser and Jurgen Habermas, thank you very much.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've had the good life fortune of taking advanced classes in a wide range of subjects

That stuff’s difficult even for people who are good at it, so you can imagine.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to love making the factorial joke in math class

where you’d just yell out the number really loud.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is why people shove you in your locker, you know.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

A new low!!

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

but a huge win for the Quiz Bowl team

who will never be that cool again.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

They were all Red Wings fans too

They even wore Red Wing brand shoes.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a strange way to show your team support

but I just bought a pair of Red Wing boots so I suppose I should be a Red Wings fan now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I realize I didn't mention it but I was on this Quiz Bowl team

3rd leading scorer, and we always lost in the finals every year to a one-handed genius. We didn’t lose to his team… we lost to HIM, because he outscored everyone on his own.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is he a serial killer these days?

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be hilarious, but doubtful

I think he’s a lawyer or an engineer. Haven’t checked on him lately.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should try loading it in Chrome.

Chrome already doesn’t handle gifs well.

I can’t even go in it over my remote desktop connection. Just like I can’t play fantastic contraption until I get home.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It tried to crash my laptop

I finally just ditched the page and hit ESC when I reloaded it.

I pretty much remember all the GIFs in question anyway.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Free Strasburg?

Is he imprisoned somewhere?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Heh.

This image is from a “robotic cat door”. I love how the cat is obviously photoshopped into the picture, and looks terrified:

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 9, 2008 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Those things are scary to cats.

We turned off the robotic part when the cat would have nothing to do with it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why in the world

is a robotic cat door necessary? As far as I’m aware, cat door technology has pretty much been perfected.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are we going back in time now?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I may be an idiot

but I’m no Steve Dilbeck. This guy sets the standard.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

........
Fun, are you kidding me? This would be a Robin Williams-Chris Rock-Bill Murray-Will Smith extravaganza.

How old is this guy? None of these people have been funny in years

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just tried to watch the latest Chris Rock HBO special

and it was really quite unfunny. It wasn’t as unfunny as Robin Williams, but it was still pretty bad.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is indeed true.

Robin Williams is painfully unfunny – this special was just pretty dull. It was a lot of Chris Rock strutting around a stage and REEEEEEEEEEALLLLY DRAAAAAAAAAAAAWIN’ OOOOOOOOOUT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL HIS WOOOOOOOOOOOOORDS and then grinning maniacally. I gave up after about 10 minutes when he didn’t manage to tell one single joke.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a fucking tool.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buhhhhhhhhh again

wouldn’t it make sense for the poor fans who never get a championship to get to win, just one time??

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

but that's not what the whole country wants to see!

Don’t you get it? The country wants to see the same team win every year, against the other team that always wins but won’t win this year! It’s more exciting that way! Just like wonder bread is more exciting than 7-grain!

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

So every Tuesday and Thursday

I have absolutely nothing to do after 10:00 AM, making those days either awesome or incredibly boring, depending on how much access I have to Irish cream.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I do believe that's what they're referring to

Bailey’s – breakfast of champions.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's still early

So are you still at WaMu or did they do a huge contractor/temp purge once everything went kablooey?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just going to ask that myself.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

They aren't dropkicking worker drones yet

They did move us off our floor so JPMC could have it, but no one here has been canned. They did dropkick a few executives, but they still want DTD ops to continue as is until they figure out what stays and goes in December. I was only commissioned to stay until 10/15 anyway.

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Once again, why do other people seem to have better lives than mine?

You will be the only person I know, perhaps on the entire planet, that has ever had homemade Fruity Pebble ice cream and homemade pretzels delivered to them at work. You sir, are Fortune’s favored son.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assume not all of you have seen this yet, so:

Chuck expounds on the team’s future.

Highlights as follows

“The easiest thing would be to declare victory and walk away from what we have accomplished here — building a beautiful ballpark, having the best record in baseball from 2000-03, winning a record 116 games and going to the playoffs in 1995, ’97, 2000 and 2001,” Armstrong said.

“Maybe someone else could walk away and feel good about it, but I can’t. I care passionately about this place and this organization, and I am more determined than ever to help get this turned back around.”

“I trust my own ability to make good decisions,” Armstrong said. "I trust my instincts, both personal and business. I honestly believe that I am the best person to be the president of this club and to hire the next [general manager].

According to Armstrong, the Mariners’ next GM will have less power than Bavasi did — especially during his fourth and fifth years with Seattle — and probably have a smaller player payroll.

“We invite dissent. We do not want a bunch of ‘yes’ people,” Armstrong said. “We invite dialogue back and forth. We don’t want someone who is afraid to express their views, although they might be different than ours.”

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Oct 9, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I almost can't process this

he trusts his own ability to make good decisions? Does he look at the outcome of his last few decisions before he says that?

Less power and a smaller payroll than Bavasi. Swell.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you mean explodes the team's future.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The GM will have less power.

Awesome. Fucking awesome. That’s exactly what we need.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, this is a great way to get the best candidates to come to Seattle:

Announce beforehand that they will be even more hamstrung by a couple dipshits in the front office than the previous guy was.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking Armstrong's going to go the "look at the scenic beauty" route

hoping the candidates will be so dazzled by the city that they won’t notice they’re essentially accepting a sinecure.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's apparently a lot of room on the Anaheim bandwagon

and cheap, readily-available gear to show your support.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Easily returnable, too.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping this is part of Armstrong's spin attempt, and has nothing to do with reality.

If in fact that is what it is, to put this whole mess on Bavasi’s shoulders and deflect the blame. I’m frequently wrong, so it’s probably real.
The NY Times had a nice article on the Rays yesterday, only problem is it made me feel worse about the Mariners. Crap. Link.

"What we’re doing right now is to stop the madness and do what we think is the right thing to do from this moment on."
Just two years old, Maddon’s comment is a telling fossil record of where this year’s surprising Rays evolved from.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That just makes too much sense though, doesn't it?

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

NO. No it doesn't. The Rays just got lucky. Armstrong will fix it.

And monkeys blah blah blah. I hate this FO. This GM signing was an exciting idea to me about 2 months ago, now I’m resigned like a man awaiting his last meal.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you go bringing monkeys into this.

Monkeys are good honerable creatures.

Seriously though, when you think about it, the Rays were pretty unlucky. They’ve had prospects with drug problems (Hamilton), health issues (Baldelli), and legal troubles (Young?). Not to mention playing in a very tough division, a lousy home park, low payroll, and a fan base that could generally care less.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole damn bunch.

I bet he’s no longer welcome at official monkey gatherings.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've never met a monkey I didn't like.

Especially when they’re dressed as clowns (and the Angel’s jersey doesn’t count).

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know, but if I was a monkey I'd throw poop at Armstrong.

But yeah, good choice by accident or not. There’s always hope. I’ve read a couple comments (different website) that Kim Ng would suffer from being cast against a good ol’ boys network. I don’t know good GM prospect from a just ok prospect, but out of all the comments that is the only one I’ve read that made me want to jump in with my 2 cents.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't tempt me with nsfw beavers

I never even got to see NSFW ponies.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it died last year

OSU got so much crap for those unis that I’m pretty sure they’re not using them this season. you KNOW it’s a bad uniform when you’re in the same state as the Oregon Ducks, and YOUR uniforms are the ones getting ridiculed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

LL is the top google response for nsfw ponies.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

--

Poi is fun, and so is the NES. I welcome NSFW poines.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 9, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, "poiNES"

is simply an NES ground into a fine paste with taro for flavoring. It’s an acquired taste, certainly, but a waste of a damn good game system.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had a math teacher in High School who had an NES as a paperweight.

His kid was playing Tecmo Super Bowl instead of doing homework FOR HIS DAD’S CLASS. His dad then took a relatively large hammer to the console and brought it in.

That’s how great Tecmo Super Bowl is.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 9, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Back in middle school I had

my parents for Sunday school teachers. I still didn’t bother showing up.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

My parents were never my teachers,

but my Dad was my soccer coach for two years, and my Mom was on the school board.

That was fun.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think if/when I have kids

that I’m not coaching their little league teams if they should play. Not that I won’t necessarily coach a little, because I like being around baseball.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 9, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

And by the number 3.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason Sesame Street

always creeped me out. I was more of a Mr. Rogers/Fred Penner kind of kid.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look up creepy mr rogers and look for videos.

He’s a weird dude.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if he didn't

Not a bad word can or should be said about that man. He’s pretty much a hero.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mr Rogers was banned from our house.

We were 100% Sesame Street.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Spiderman on Electric Company was awesome.

I was also a Captain Kangaroo and Great Space Coaster kid.

“No gnus is good gnus unless it’s Gary Gnus!”

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those hushed tones he spoke in were creepy sometimes.

Every now and then it made the hair on the back of my neck stand on end. Most of the time he was like a comfy couch, but as a kid I think he came on around naptime.
The painter guy on PBS is awesome for adult naptime. “And we’ll just put a little happy bush right over here…”

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody have a good recommendation

on how to re-encode iTunes purchased music into something that is DRM free?

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

What version of iTunes are you running?

If it’s prior to 7, there’s a few utilities out there that will do the trick – 7 and 8 plugged the hole that made that possible, though. Option B is to dump the files onto a CD then re-import them, but when you do that you lose a TON of volume.

My actual recommendation would be to use Amazon’s mp3 store for your buying needs – it even has a utility that puts the purchased songs – ALWAYS DRM free – directly into iTunes.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or you could always use Bittorrent for your music needs,

then send the band a check or paypal if they have it. I’ve done this on a few occasions, and gotten some neat stuff and awesome emails back.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a huge fan of it.

No DRM, huge selection, easy integration with iTunes.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

You need to run the uplink formatting

through the server cache and then maximize the data reintegration stream using code 5-level variable analysis and DSM-IV algorithmic logistics. Also, cookies.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

DSM-IV? The mental disorder book?

There’s some heavy algorithms.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are about 30 utilities that will do it if you google.

Or you can drop them out to a CDRW and reimport.

Or even easier is to get daemon tools (or its modern equivalent) and drop them out to ISO, then open the ISO and reimport. No CD needed.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is official. royalcurve is LL's Ms. October.

The Fruity Pebbles ice cream rocks! Oh man, but these fresh cooked (and still warm!) pretzels are INCREDIBLE!

Thank you again, and good to meet you in person!

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

How freakin' lucky are you?!?

Speaking of good food, I had the most amazing steak at Applebees (of all places) last night. Almost fork-tender top sirloin.

Needless to say, I was surprised.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would surprise me less than getting a good one at Applebees.

Some of the truck stops and out of the way places have amazing food. I bet Corco could vouch for that.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

As much as I love chain restaurants I always make it a point to not eat them on roadtrips. As such I’ve had some horrible food but have been rewarded greatly in other occasions.

The Umatilla truckstop has surprisingly good food if you’re ever down that way

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I try to avoid chains when I travel as well.

I’m still pissed at my Dad for going to McDonald’s while he was in France.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's different

French McDonald’s are completely different from US McDonald’s so it’s good to go there once

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Royale with cheese is not an excuse.

Although I will admit if I were out of the country, I’d be tempted to see what was on the menu.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

The German one has awful german food,

and a hamburger is about as close to American food as you get. My friend reported that the beer was great, though.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The burgers and fries

taste exactly the same though. Why the hell would you want to go to McDonalds when you are in France??

by brayden04 on Oct 9, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good God, that just made me ridiculously hungry for a good steak--

damn you poedunk Iowa college town and your reprehensible lack of a decent steakhouse!

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're in Iowa and you can't find a cow?

Just walk 2 miles in any one direction and you’ll find a cow farm. Stick that bad boy on a Hibachi and you’re set.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

A lot fewer cows than one might think,

much more corn and soy—although the corn in these parts is pretty damn good.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, thanks! Glad it didn't disappoint.

I’m telling you, this pretzel recipe is life changing.

by royalcurve on Oct 9, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who goods as good!

Only one brother, and he’s a married cowboy. Sorry….

by royalcurve on Oct 9, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You gotta watch those cowboys,

I saw a movie trailer about them once.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No matter what you think about the subject matter,

that movie was pretty good for a chick flick.

I would even imagine it’s LFOJL approved.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

No strong feeling either way,

but I haven’t actually seen the movie. I did waste $4.99 On Demand watching Semi-Pro the other night though. What a horrible movie.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Note to self: Do not post while on the phone.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am seriously

jealous of that fruity pebble ice cream. Seriously.

by brayden04 on Oct 9, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

As well you should be. I'm a lucky guy.

Meeting royalcurve was a treat in and of itself, by the way. And what a cute little girl who arrived with her!

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voyuers rejoice!

Google has sent up a spy satellite that takes pictures of everyone in even greater detail than before.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Dammit.

Link.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Small school in rural Penn, good for teachers. Named after the town, Kutztown (Penn Dutch).

Northwest of Philly by about 2 hours.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My GF went there for teaching.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wait.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we wait long enough I might learn how to spell "thought" as well.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's rather amusing.

It makes about as much sense as blaming it on CRA.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does this man have a job writing?
Cheerleader of the Week: Devan of the Philadelphia Eagles, a dean’s list student at Temple University. According to her team bio, Devan is pursuing a degree in “dance and advertising” — a lot of advertising involves dancing around facts!

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aside from my iPhone

my old Blackberry 8700 was the best phone I’ve ever owned.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hated the ball on the Curve when I first got it,

but now it’s hard to use the wheel.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dow 8800 woot!

I’m beginning to think my dream of an 8000 dow by year-end was a bit pessimistic.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

This sucks bad at work

People are freaking out (they should a little, I think) and we’re getting swamped with calls about people wanting their money taken out of investments, etc.

The stock market: THERE IS NO FLOOR!!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Oct 9, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure average people should freak out

Institutional investors and fund managers should be freaking pretty bad right now, and finding nice, safe T-bills to put their money in for a couple years, but the average person with a 401K or an IRA should probably just forget they even have such a thing at this point.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a rather absurdly long marathon.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

K... k....

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

My stupid jokes make me unlikable.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a lot of work.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just live long enough to collect friends that either get it, or tolerate it.

I’ve just come to that conclusion recently. About 5 minutes ago actually. Jumping into your thread of random comments with “shirt tucked into your underwear” yesterday kind of gave me reason to pause and ponder.

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by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could have made a Kelvin joke.

But that’s just be cold.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad grammar strikes again!

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't the grammar that was the problem there

it was the horrible pun spelling.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Horrible puns are the very pinnacle of human discourse.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only people that have 401k's that should be worried

are people that are 5 years away from retirement or less.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd have to win three lotteries to be able to retire in five years,

so I’m not all that concerned.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My parents :(

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here unfortunately.

Thankfully my step-dad will be able to collect partial disability.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like Lackey and his boys could take a few lessons

from Manny Being Manny. When asked about the Phillies, Manny said:

“They’re the best team out there,” Ramirez said of the Phillies. "These guys are great. We don’t think we are better than them, but the key in the playoffs is to get in and anything can happen.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder if that's a response.

Manny’s a fucking genius like that.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm being entirely serious

when I say that Manny Ramirez is probably one of my three or four favorite ballplayers. I know it’s all cool to hate on Manny because he’s ‘weird’, but damn that guy’s fun to watch.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAMMIT

I have lived my entire life hoping for the approval ot Tim McCarver. Now you’re telling me I don’t have it. MY LIFE IS MEANINGLESS.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick, say something inane! He will love you again.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clutch hitting is an important skill!

Productive outs are key to a team’s success!

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have inside information that McCarver is actually angry

Because he had the winning bid on Manny’s grill only to find out it was a hoax.

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate international weeks

No good E football on this weekend.

And no, the England team does not count as “good football”.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Internationals Saturday and Wednesday

I hate internationals. Qualifiers are boring until the last one, and even then they’re only interesting when England gets knocked out by an injury-time equalizer or penalty shootout.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Highly unlikely

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it wasn't for the Best Buy connection I'd think the same way

but Best Buy doesn’t generally hype things that they won’t actually have to sell.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

GNR is a hollow shell of it's former self.

Until I hear a decent single I could care less.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree completely

I have no desire to buy it, own it, or hear any of it – I’m just sad that one of the longest-running jokes in the music business now has an end date.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone can revive the joke, it's Axl.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's kept the joke alive this long, what's a few more years?

I’m just sad that GnR is the one paying Tommy Stinson’s rent these days.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked their early work, but that's just my opinion.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

No no no.

The world ends with Duke Nukem Forever gets a release date.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Screw Scrappy's

Let’s buy the Dallas Cowboys’ end zone and reenact the Romo fumble over and over and over (yes I know that happened at Qwest and not Texas Stadium but STILL)

by Gomez on Oct 9, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

How does that appeal to the Mariners faithful?

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck this playlist

this stupid school is going to get the Rick Astley iPod experience.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

"What is Love" by Haddaway is on this list.

I doubt anyone at this stupid dance would know why this song was ever famous.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a special school for GenXers that failed to graduate?

What fucking high school aged kid wants to hear this music. They want to hear rap songs containing the word ’shawty."

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what happens

when you have a music committee consisting entirely of teachers age 35 or older.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I smell a mutiny at that dance.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a wise request.

You would be considered a hero if you slipped on a clean Ludacris song, or something.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard "Into the Mystic" by Van Morrison probably 300 times in my life

but it still hasn’t lost the magic that wowed me when I first listened to it.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 9, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Stop and Stare - OneRepublic holds the same kind of appeal to me

but I probably have not heard it 300 times since the album was only released last year

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have often thought of putting together a mixtape/disc of songs like this

it would have these songs on it (plus a bunch more, these are the ones that I can think of in a minute or less)

Thousands Are Sailing – The Pogues
Live Fast, Love Hard, Die Young – the New Bomb Turks
Gone To The Moon – Fastbacks
A New England – Billy Bragg
Kate – Ben Folds Five
Welcome To The Working Week – Elvis Costello
English Rose – The Jam
One Step Beyond – Madness
I Fought The Law – Clash

and oh, so many more. This is why I love music.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another great song.

Man, I’d love to see Peter Gabriel in concert. I loved his album “Up”.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 9, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

As an old punk rocker I got tons of shit for this

But he is my all time favorite songwriter. He is amazing live. I love spinning old Genesis from when he was still in the band.

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peter Gabriel is incredible.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it wrong that another song that hasn't lost its magic to me

is “California Uber Alles”?

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, not at all.

Along the Way is as awesome to me as it was when I first heard it in elementary school.

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody needs tea.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waiting for the stock market to land on my head.

Between the GeoEye thingy mentioned above, and the SuperDuper Collider spinning up a monster black hole, I’m pretty sure we’re all done for. If they don’t get us I’m sure CNN ticker tape will come up with a couple of new things by close of business Friday.

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by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never could get all the gifs to load.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It worked fine at home

But it messed my work machine up. I had to restart.

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It didn't mess up my computer here at work, they just wouldn't all load.

I might check it out when I get home.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone's comments make it sound like the Post of the Apocolypse.

Or something less awful, but still bad. Why it didn’t nuke my computer, I do not understand.

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by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wondermark of the day

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

ESPN comments are great

RE: Adam Jones incident

Send him out to pasture. How hard is it to stay out of trouble? Pretty sad that they will let anyone in the NFL just as long as you can run with the ball. But, lets not just target the NFL. You have college too, where players get the Easy ticket. Is this the direction America is heading? Reward the idiocy? No wonder most of the struggling youth go to athletics. Who wants to study and work hard all their life?

Yup, that’s what we do in America. The ones that don’t want to work hard all become football players and instant millionaires!

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

If I think about this too much my temper will probably flare.

My thought process takes me down the path of NCAA athletics, crooked boosters and alumni associations, culpability of the system.

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by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it when you get exactly what you were craving for lunch.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Crack cocain?

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

No… I was craving a cheap cheeseburger, so I ran up to Jack in the Crack and got one. Hit the spot, especially after yesertday’s lunch debacle.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

So lets see...

If you’re a solicitor coming into a building with a large “NO SOLICITATION” sign on it, do you also park in a parking spot marked “RESERVED, VIOLATORS WILL BE TOWED AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE”?

Morons.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

He walked in my office and I said:

“I’m sorry, we don’t accept solicitation in this building. I really don’t have time to discuss it with you because I have to go meet the tow truck picking up the white VW parked in my reserved parking spot.”

He said sorry and left rather quickly.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I almost got into a fight with solicitor in my office about three weeks ago,

the fucker just wouldn’t leave.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So as a sales rep we are taught to ignore no solicitor signs.

The trick is that if you do not ask for a sale you are in fact not breaking the rule.

All I ever do is ask for the name of the person to meet with and then I leave. I then call or email to set up a meeting.

I have been treated like an ass many times but I just smile and walk away.

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't mind that so much,

but when you’re walking in trying to sell “art” and crap like that, it pisses me off. Especially when I see you pull in the lot and park in a reserved parking spot (when 35 other spots are open).

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This brings up a question.

I’m wondering how to stop political canvassers from coming to my door. We’ve got a NO SOLICITING sign but any random charity/politico/whatever always gives me the “I’m not selling anything” line. I’m not rude to them, I just want to stop them from knocking. So far my options seem to be signs that read either:

IF I DO NOT KNOW YOU PLEASE DO NOT KNOCK ON MY DOOR
or
NO SOLICITING, CANVASSING, OR CHARITY/SALES VISITORS
or
I AM AN APOSTATE AND A COMMUNIST AND THUS DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR RELIGION OR POLITICAL CANDIDATE

any better ideas?

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

zomg no politics or needy people.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I OWN AN ANGRY PIT BULL AND A SHOTGUN, KNOCK AT YOUR OWN PERIL"

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

way too redneck.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the sign I saw recently

that read, “Beware: Dog is sarcastic.”

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

"OWNER BITES, HAS RABIES"

Then maybe you’ll attract some girls too who think you have babies

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which for the 99.9999999999999999998 of the world's population that doesn't read LL

would just be an oddity that wouldn’t stop them from knocking at the door.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fiddlecat

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by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeeeeeeeeeeeeah no

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angry proctologist?

He reminds me of a slightly less walleyed Jack Elam.

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by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Are you ready for your examination?"

Or cross examination. Either option probably isn’t very nice.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn good question

I would make a sign that says, “Visitors only accepted with an appointment.”

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a decent idea

especially if combined with the phone number of the Jehovah’s Witness hall down the road as the number to call for said appointment.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is getting the Elite XBox worth the cost over the Pro?

I can’t find any decent word on whether the Pro offers the HDMI hookup. Some say yes, some say no.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

The new ones do

mine does and I got it over a year ago. Don’t bother with the Elite (well unless you plan on Netflix-ing the hell out of it, not sure how that works though), because even the 20 GB is hard to fill.

by seattlebruin on Oct 9, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Netflix is streaming, so I'll go with no, I'll never use it.

I think I’m going to go ask the Gamestop assholes before I buy it for cheaper online.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you Rock Band.

Those songs are 20-50 MB per song to download.

I’m already regretting having a 20 GB Xbox….

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 9, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That much?

Really?

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously? Ah shit.

I need to figure out a way too hook up my 300GB external hard drive to my Xbox.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only have an Elite

because the HDMI port didn’t exist on the pro models when I decided to finally plunge into the HD market.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need a pretty big TV for HDMI to be noticeable though, right?

I read that it’s probably not worth bothering with if your TV is smaller than 50 inches. Or something like that.

I have my cable on HDMI and it looks the same as a component on my 42-inch LCD.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the size of your set

it’s the distance from the set to the box. If it’s less than about 3 feet or so, you won’t notice a difference, but if it’s a longer distance HDMI is definitely the way to go as the signal doesn’t degrade.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This isn't quite the case.

Signal degradation is the cause of that. If you get a crappy HDMI cable, after 6’ you see the same problems as mid-quality component. If you get a 10.2gbps speed rated HDMI cable, you can run it about 12 feet w/o issue.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unlike audio cables

you should give a rat’s ass about your HDMI cables.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is mostly correct.

If you’re running 7.1 or higher you want to go optical (or HDMI 1.3b ideally) over digital coax. But other than that you’re in the clear.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

I’ve got a 22" flatpanel monitor that runs at 1080p and the difference between that and the regular 420p signal is astonishing.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can tell 420p-720p at 19".

You can tell 720p-1080i @ ~36".
You can tell 1080i-1080p @ ~42".

According to all the manufacturers guidelines. I can see it a little smaller, but I have really good eyes.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I must be obsessive compulsive

because I can spot differences between 1080i and 1080p on a 22" screen.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either that or you're seeing shit.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, if you're talking about just your screen,

it will fill in the lines from the 1080i source, and cause it to look different. I was talking about two TVs of the same size, but different resolutions.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah.

Whatever. I tend to obsess about stuff like this.

You should hear the rants I go on about 128k MP3s vs CD quality recordings.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's why most of my collection is in original master format.

At least the music I get for myself.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

There as huge difference between 420 and 720

at 15". It’s the difference between black and white and color

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

480i-720p is a huge difference.

480p-720p is harder to tell. I agree with you in spirit, though. Most people can tell something’s different at that point, but can’t point out what. But that’s the company line, and it’s for the most part correct.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The big difference is that 4xx is SD

and 720 is HD. HD is roughly a million times more vibrant than anything broadcast in SD.

I can only think of a few examples of momentarily being fooled into thinking that SD was HD and that was from sources filmed in HD, transfered to a SD DVD, and then played on an HD/BluRay player.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Might as well be speaking martian-ese as far as I’m concerned.

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by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

480p may technically be SD

But it’s much harder to tell from ED (720p). If you’re just watching tv, that’s going to be 480i. If you put on a movie in a older DVD player (progressive scan, non-upconverting), you’ll be able to tell the difference easily from the TV signal (480i-480p). If you find a ED source (Digital “HD” channels like ABC run in 720p) and compare it to the 480p movie, you won’t see much difference.

And anything you stick into a BluRay will upconvert to at least 1080i. That’s the “HD” you’re seeing.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I misspoke.

You are right about the SD/HD divide, sort of. But my overall point remains the same.

SD = 480i
ED = 480p or 576p
“HD” = 720p or 1080i
“Full HD” = 1080p+

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

There’s not a whole hell of a lot of difference after you get past 720, it mostly depends on the source.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd disagree.

I sell HDTVs as part of my job, and after looking at different ones side by side for a while, you begin to get a real sense of what is different; when they all come from the same source, how much better 1080p looks. A good part of that isn’t even the resolution, it’s the processing involved on the newer models that really stands out.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm speaking more to the difference between 1080i and 1080p from last model year to this model year.

The models that are 1080p 120hz don’t even have the correct sources yet, so there’s not much of a way to tell the difference between that and 1080p 60hz (regular 1080p) no matter what.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should amend this

you’re right, I was talking about broadcast tv, typically and Blu-ray or an HDDVD will dwarf anything broadcast on television.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

As will a standard DVD, which will be in 480p as opposed to 480i. See below.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on the source again

many older dvds will look very pixelated, the new ones look much better but don’t even compare to a 720 source. I can’t pop my House dvd into the HDDVD or the Blu-ray player and get anything close to the picture FOX (720) offers.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think I understand this post.

You’re telling me your BluRay doesn’t look as good as the HD broadcast of Fox? That says you have a slow HDMI cable, have a setting turned down to 720p somewhere, are using component cables or a DVI connector for your BluRay player, or have a TV that is not 1080p.

I’m not sure about your area, but in most places Fox is one of the few stations running in 1080i. That’s irrelevant to the discussion, though.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

I mean standard dvds. If I meant a blu-ray disc I would say so. A blu-ray would be the highest picture quality.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox runs in 720 here

CBS/NBC/PBS run in 1080, ABC/ESPN run in 720

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same in Seattle

CBS runs 1080i, FOX is 720p. For football, I actually prefer the latter.

by marc w on Oct 9, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

In my situation I would handicap them:

CBS >> NBC >>>>>>>>> ABC/ESPN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOX

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Older DVD's will look pixelated, yes.

They were probably encoded in 480i. The best way to tell for a full-length movie is to stick it into a computer and see how big the DVD is. If its somewhere around 4.6GB, it’s probably going to be in 480i. If it’s ~8GB, it’s probably in 480p.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wanna add

that fuck FOX because their football picture quality is terrible, they do better for baseball… but still I hope that every game I want to watch ends up on CBS or NBC.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their picture is terrible for sports because all the movement doesn't work well with interlacing.

If you have a digital cable box and can ratchet it down to 720p there’s a good chance it’ll look better.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looks fine for baseball

other than it’s in 720.

And I’m not just talking movement either, even still shots are somewhat blurry compared to the other networks.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, some stations will do that. It's usually the cable system trying to fit too much in one pipe.

Odd thing about your setup with the HD channels, though. It’s swapped almost completely from the east coast and the south.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on the feed source you get, they broadcast in both.

The cable provided picks and chooses which feedset they get.

Except for ABC, which doesn’t have a 1080i feed.

This is a continuing discussion @ AVSforum, and is the source of all my info on which channels broadcast what.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm

The last time I looked this up ( a year or so ago I read that Fox didn’t broadcast in 1080)

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, you might be right.

I’m about to leave for home and can’t look it up, but I swore I saw press releases about it.

Really, it doesn’t matter much to me because running it in 720p mode looks better most of the time anyway, even on a 1080i set. So it’s quite possible that I misread something.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just like to clear these things up because there is so much confusion about HDtv

most people thing that ALL over the air signals are going away permanently, not just the analog ones.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

(to anyone that might be reading this), there will still be SD signals digitally broadcast as well as HD. This means no one needs to get a HDTV, as long as you get the digital converter.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

SD is a lot cheaper.

As in free, if you shop around for a cheap digital converter and use your old tv.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 10, 2008 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wholeheartedly disagree

Even at 40" 720 and 1080 are difficult to tell apart if you’re not “looking for it”, but 480, even 480 broadcast over an HD feed is easily spotted.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to consider the TVs involved.

If you have a 720p TV, and run 480i (this is all the NTSC analog TV channels coming straight from the coax), it’ll look like the crap it is.
If you run a 480p DVD (normal DVD, progressive scan player), it would be much harder to tell from a 720p source.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

720 from the coax looks nothing like 480

So I’m having a hard time seeing how someone could be fooled because anything that’s HD that’d broadcast in 720 is much much more vibrant. I must be misunderstanding.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're failing to take into account the source.

480p is 2x the resolution as 480i. This is why standard DVDs look so much better than analog TV broadcast.

720p is only 1.5x the resolution of 480p. This is why it is harder to tell a standard DVD from the digital HD channels broadcast in 720p.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

but to me the difference between the dvd and the 720 feed is obvious because the dvd is noticeably blurry.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd check if your DVD is progressive scan.

Older DVD players might not have that, and then output in 480i. Also see my comment above about older DVDs themselves.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Settle down you two....

:)

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is fun. I love trying to figure out stuff.

It’s a lot easier in person, though.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's really odd then.

Is the TV a 50"+ 1080i/p? It could just be a size issue. Any small blurryness will be majorly distorted the larger the set.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's only for football

all the other programing looks fine. It’s a 40" 1080i tv

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's really odd.

Do all your standard DVD’s look like that on the PS3 and HDDVD, or just some? Maybe see what the resolution the players are outputting when they are playing a DVD? It’s possible they drop down to 480p when playing a DVD, and your TV doesn’t like it.

I’d take that question to AVSforum. They get a ton of that stuff there, and know alot more about troubleshooting than I do. I just work with the working stuff at my job, I never end up troubleshooting.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I used 420. It's 480. Duh me.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the connection, it's the resolution.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, that's what I meant.

The difference between 720p/1080i and 1080p.

by Teej on Oct 9, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, in that case you would be talking about around a 42" TV.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So a Farmer's Insurance agent just swung by the house.

She wanted me to sign off on everything associated with a recent car wreck. Covering all hospital visits, car damage plus our deductible, and a $1000 bucks on top to sweeten the pot. I didn’t sign, told her I’d get back to her in a week. I feel like I’m missing something and it’s going to bite me in the ass.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Take your time before you sign anything.

If they’re trying to rush you, there’s probably a reason for it. I just got settling on my insurance claim, and I put him off for a week so I could mull it over before I signed.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

My instincts took me this direction.

Right decision I think. I’m such a good ol’ boy about stuff. Rub some dirt on it!!
I have to remind myself that because other people are nice and polite doesn’t mean they have my best interests at heart. Business sucks.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes it does.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid South American jungle rats, they give me the creeps.

They are like little mini rat-cows. Or giant rat-mini cow. Only thing they don’t have are six asses.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Long as he doesn't gnaw the leg off my barstool, I'll risk playing dead.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

stupid reply fail

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could come in handy. Are you in need of a dam?

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just finished this one.

I wish this would happen to me.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin wins.

I’d rather get free wine than watch a rodent kill a snake.

by marc w on Oct 9, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's almost Jubelale time

sorry. Had to do it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't help it if that's all that's in the fridge

I’m going to the store tonight and I am forcing myself to buy non-Jubelale, because the mrs. comes back next week and she’s all about the Jubel so I’ll get my fill then.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was at the Deschutes brewpub in the Pearl on Monday

and apparently they had just had a keg of Jubel on nitro, which would have been really good. But he did say that at some point they will have Double Jubel on tap (they’re not bottling it apparently), he didn’t know exactly what it was but it sounds like a longer-aged, darker Jubel. Should be interesting.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jubelale is one of the last beverages I remember ordering with any clarity on Saturday

after a while people just kept handing me beverages.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found my tab to be shockingly low

As I know I was buying rounds of 3-4 drinks at a time. I’m sure I was placing said drinks in front of you.

by Sec 108 on Oct 9, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I saw Eric buy me at least two rounds

but beyond that I have no idea where they all came from. I know I owe some people some drinks though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAA!!

I just got this email at work:

“I will fax the water bill to you for account ******* in the amount of $456.68. Please mail the check ASAP as the water was shut off and the former tenant took a dump in the toilet (real classy). Anyhow I need the water turned on. I am doing the security deposit refund paperowrk and will have it to you today. Pay the bill out of the refundable deposit for the former tenants. The house smells very bad.”

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

You should tell him to just take a hose and fill up the toilet's tank to flush it.

It’ll work as a stopgap.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I told her (or a big bucket of water).

I used to do that at construction sites where the water wasn’t on yet back when I did insurance work.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good man.

This person cleans out apartments and he doesn’t know how a toilet flushes?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

She, I mean.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the property manager for this house, not a maintenance person.

They’re not the sharpest tools in the shed.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone catch the new South Park last night?

I thought it was sub-par to be honest.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't make it a point to watch it, it just happened to be on when I got home from dinner.

If they’re all like that, I’m pretty much done with SP.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what you mean,

but they just weren’t nearly as creative on tackling current issues as they used to be.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've only seen a few minutes of a few eps in the last three or four seasons

and this is why. It’s becoming shrill, like it’s got one joke and has to shout that joke really loud so that the person in the back of the room, who is probably the last one to hear it, hears it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Indy plot was hilarious

the Cartman plot was stale.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Indy was a bit over the top (even for SP),

and the Cartman bit was so horrible I think it gave me cancer.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the movie parodies were hilarious

that plot was well done.

The Chinese plot grew old about 30 seconds after Butters put on his false teeth.

9=8

by JI on Oct 9, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The basic movie parodies were funny,

I just couldn’t handle “rape” scene after “rape” seen. It got pretty old pretty quick.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trouble at the bus stop!!!

The cops just met a Metro bus down the street from my work. Someone is in handcuffs.

I'm back to liking midgets too much (Scrappy's comes first, don't worry).

by Thingray on Oct 9, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

You let her win.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 9, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if anyone is left

I have a fascinating debacle. Upon searching facebook for the girl who sits next to me in my stats class I found the following wall-to-wall exchange

These girls are clearly referring to myself. Are they ask-outable based on nothing but the following piece of information?

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm thinking about the one that says I'm really smart

she’s the one that sits next to me and she gets far better grades then I do

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

But I’m not either of their facebook friends so it’s defensible.

I’m tempted to add one of them just to see the hasty deletion

Alternatively since she apparently reads what I write in my margins in my notebook I can bust her that way

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is Corco though.

Corco, I say go for it. If you don’t see her eating styrofoam out of her purse or howling at cats walking by, I’d give her a call if I were you.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Styrofoam is tasty

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

In seriousness,

As a lifelong punk rock dork, it took me many years to shed my shy side and actually behave as though I had confidence. Slowly thereafter, I actually DID gain confideli spoke with were struggling with the same social issuse that I was (hence shitty cliques to make them feel better about themselves). The longer time went on, I found the idea of rejection actually hilarious, or at most, not worth my time. What’s the use in worrying about whether she says “yes, I’d love to go for a drink,” or no? Why be humiliated by the negative? If she’s not interested, fuck it. Move on. We’re a culture of movers and obtainers. She says no and still sits next to you in whatever class? Fine. Lean over to her one day and say, "it’s a shame you didn’t come with me the other night. I had the best dinner in a while, and there was a crowd at the [insert concert/other event here] that would have had us both entertained all night. After that, ask her to just hang out as friends in a social environment.

Needless to say, just before I met my wife, I realized that being shy, insecure, and scared to take risks really disabled my social life. I now am a different person.

Tom is my lone friend on Myspace.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Holy fuck. I have no idea what happened with the English in this post.

Anyway, you get the idea.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are good points

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go for broke. You have nothing to lose.

Except for maybe a dumbass girl to pine over. in which case you move on. Win/win.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 9, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I really don't give a shit

She’s cute but I hadn’t really thought about her seriously as anybody to ask out until reading that

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seconding the 'nothing to lose' notion

If she goes out with you, cool; if not, do what kevin_ess says. Either way you win.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 9, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If she's cute then do it.

Disregard my comment below, I hadn’t read the whole subthread. Whoops.

But if you’re into her, go for it.

by brayden04 on Oct 10, 2008 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is an amazingly well put together piece of advice.

Where were you when I was 15?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 9, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

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by Corco on Oct 9, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're you.

Seriously though…eh, give it a shot. As far as I’m aware, every single healthy relationship has been based on a solid foundation of facebook stalking.

by Liebkartoffel on Oct 9, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

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