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W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Scott Kazmir 12-8 27 27 0 0 0 0 152.1 123 61 59 23 70 166 3.49 1.27


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Mark Buehrle 15-12 34 34 1 0 0 0 218.2 240 106 92 22 52 140 3.79 1.34

 

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It's funny because yesterday a TBS announcer

congratulated the Brewers for trading Seth McClung.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

That whole at bat was so much fun.

Fuck Orlando Cabrera.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Oct 3, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Grant Balfour is so much fun to watch.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Yet another reason Maddon is Manager of the Year:

With Percival not making the playoff roster due to injury, most managers would have automatically plugged Balfour into the “closer” spot and refused to use him until the 9th inning. Because “that’s the way it’s done.” Instead, Maddon nominally gave that “position” to the reliable (but not overwhelming) Wheeler and said he’d use Balfour — his true relief ace — at any time, in any inning, whenever he was needed the most.

Bases loaded, one out, game on the line…and he strikes both batters out. Dominance.

Anyone else remember when this guy couldn’t find the strike zone with a map last year?

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ehh

Wheeler has been the closer for a while, and Borowski saw more high leverage situations than Betancourt last year.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where does the media get that Percival is hurt from?
Percival, 39, indicated he is healthy enough to pitch and believes the decision was made to get another player on the roster, not work around his previous ailments.

He was left off because he’s bad, not because he’s hurt.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Oct 3, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would give anything for a high-quality pic of Balfour doing the finger point.

He’s probably in mid-“FUCK” as he does it, too.

That dude is crazy entertaining.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

This work?

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/17033/sitthefuckdown.jpg[/img]

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

God dammit, used to forums:

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Upton, Longo, Aybar, Baldelli, Navarro?

Carl Crawford had a 91 OPS+ this year. His OBP was .319…he’s not as bad as he’s shown this year but there are better #3 hitters in the very same lineup.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aybar and Navarro are not good options

You don’t know what you’re going to get out of Baldelli, and quite frankly if you’re going to base that on this year’s performance you should check Pena’s splits.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better BB% (career and this year) lower K% (career and this year), better HR/FB, and equal LD rate with a BABIP 33 points worse.

He may not be a better hitter, but he’s had a better year, Crawford has been injured this year, and based on what Aybar’s responsible for, Aybar’s 2008>Crawford’s 2008 as a hitter. Crawford isn’t playing to his talent level but he’s also hurt, so it’s not crazy to think he’d play worse than his talent level right now.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a bunch of nonsense

Willy Aybar is a utility player who is not even on the same planet as Carl Crawford. Crawford, along with several other Rays, would have to be severely compromised to make it seems like a good idea.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aybar's bat would make him the best utility batter in baseball then.

You still can’t refute the 20.5% LD rate and .267 BABIP, really. He’s not good, but he still had an acceptable season while getting about as unlucky as Beltre (21.7% LD rate, .279 BABIP) so he had some bad breaks this year. Aybar’s more of a hitter than his results show.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not good

Then he shouldn’t hit third.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you say so.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Willy Aybar is a league average hitter

and has no business hitting third on a team that wants to win and has better options: Longo, Baldelli, Upton, Crawford, Iwamura, Pena all have to die in a fiery plane crash before I entertain the idea the hitting Aybar third is a viable option.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look, I respect that you guys could be right, but rather than "that's just not true" I'd like to know why.

From what I’ve learned the past year, BABIP is largely dependent on luck. Aybar had a higher OPS than Crawford this year despite suffering terrible BABIP luck. He had a good LD rate (20.5) and a horrible BABIP (.267) His BB is higher. His K% is lower. His HR/FB% is higher. In most of these categories it’s better than Crawford’s for their career. Aybar hasn’t played as much so a lot of that could be SSS I guess.

I know I am still learning, but from what I’ve learned about balls-in-play and LD rate and all that, it seems like Aybar has gotten really unlucky and still had a better year, whereas Crawford was mildly unlucky and still had a worse year at the plate. All I’m asking for is more of a statistical response. I don’t like using numbers, even if they’re the wrong ones, and then being told I’m wrong without being told why. Tell me why the numbers I’m using are wrong. Jeff knows way more about baseball than me so yeah, he’s probably right. But give me a reason why here.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well if he's a .737 OPS with bad luck, I don't know how much better, but at least a little better.

Same thing would happen to Crawford, but he was worse to begin with this year and he’s still a little injured. The Rays weren’t even sure he’d play in the ALDS at all.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

He whines.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why you don't bat him 3rd

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had to play center one day this year.

Pre-game he whined, during the game a line drive single to center, Mark Teahan scored from first. After the game Carl said he “forgot where he was.”

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 3, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does anyone score from first on a single?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carl's arm is damon-esque/

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop being hurt Kaz.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

no Hot Corner?

Gameday is just not going to cut it

by Lents Park Homer on Oct 3, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this yet another example in a long list of reasons why you shouldn't pitch when injured?

Disappearing slider being an issue and all…

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 3, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I blame his obviously faulty mechanics.

I mean, look at those mechanics. They’re HORRIFYING. He’s guaranteed to have his arm rot off any day now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't be worse than Silva?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interestingly enough

Kazmir’s strike rate and swinging strike rate are the same as they were a year ago. The only differences are a higher LD% and an unsustainably higher HR%.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 3, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shit nevermind his groundball rate plummeted too

but it is interesting that despite all the BIP differences, his immediate pitch results remained stable.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 3, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you look at his release point from this and last year.

He’s changed to make it more repeatable, yet the ball is released higher. Perhaps that’s a reason for more flyballs?

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 3, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that sucked.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Well ast least it's till the first inning...

GO RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 3, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Balfour interview on HotCorner

and the interviewer didn’t even ask about the Cabrera at-bat. Heckuva job, TBS sports dork.

by Lents Park Homer on Oct 3, 2008 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Hockey is a white man's game.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I wasn't so insanely opposed to hockey in warm weather cities,

I would have jumped on the lightning. Their team looks Rays-esque.

by Matthew on Oct 3, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest

And their were other critia that forced my hand
1.) Eastern Conference
2.) Canadian Team
3.) No history of winning
4.) Not being the most obnoxious fans in the league

by Robert on Oct 3, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest
Sports are easier to get into if you know somebody with a rooting interest

by Robert on Oct 3, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I've finally grown tired of his schtick

I liked him for a long long time, but in the last two or three years every time I see him he just kinda annoys me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

keep your exposure at its current level

and you’ll have many, many years of batshit crazy. Seattle cable gets the CBC and I used to never miss Coach’s Corner. Took a few years off, then saw it a couple times last year and…..ugh.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

King David.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Throw more strikes, Kazmir

Fewer wide-angle shots of the underside of the dome roof, TBS

by Lents Park Homer on Oct 3, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

EJ's Mailbag sounds like a porno or a kids show.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Movie News: Steven Seagal's In Siege 3 has been greenlighte, and it will take place in space.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Under Siege

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barty = MVP

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Goddamn double plays.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

What happened to this thread?

Unless my browser is messing with me again, nobody’s posting in it. My browser is probably messing with me.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Real men do both at once.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm expected to actually work until about 5:30,

so I’m pretty much lurking until then.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

..Or maybe just Kaz is excitable for the first few innings.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Not saying it isn't.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least they're not down 1-0.

:p

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's okay, Big Gay Eyes.

:P

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bahahaha

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized I failed.

Supposed to be Big Gay Heart.

I’m a fool.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally missed that...

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aw, I'm sorry.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBS + Catwalks = Unnatural Metal Bridge Love.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Amen!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pena did it once last year.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against Bedard!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

...How do you know this?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was watching the game.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surely Kaz is going to start being good soon.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

OK, he started.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

M-V-P

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate people that use ERA, so we hate the same people.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's sad how baseball refuses to grow up.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gahhh.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

However, he would still make a great M.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are both awesome.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aki is only a 2nd year MLBer, he'll fold.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

IWA!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

It's a pleasant surprise!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering Reynolds' comments

that homer couldn’t have been better timed.

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

ESPN referenced 9=8 this morning.

I laughed when they got it wrong.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is still novel to me

The Devil Rays are playing in October.
By the time the M’s get back there I may feel the same way.

"When I'm a evaluating a player the first three things I look at are: Character, character, and character."
-Charles Armstrong esq.

by Big Jared on Oct 3, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I almost feel bad for White Sox fans.

Poor fuckers. Second lead their team has blown in two days.

Let’s hope this stands up, though.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Bad times all around Chi-town.

"When I'm a evaluating a player the first three things I look at are: Character, character, and character."
-Charles Armstrong esq.

by Big Jared on Oct 3, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yessir.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worse times in Seattle.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nationals.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I root for both teams!

Plus, as an added bonus I live on the South Side of Chicago.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Child Support.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

The Nationals came through down the stretch and worsted us thus securing the #1 pick.

"When I'm a evaluating a player the first three things I look at are: Character, character, and character."
-Charles Armstrong esq.

by Big Jared on Oct 3, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

They''ll pick some not named strasburg. Probably a HSer.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a chance.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Bowden.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I, of course, channeled Fairly

isn’t it funny how a fella makes a big play, and then comes up to bat in the bottom of the inning

by msb on Oct 3, 2008 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Balfour Vs. Cabrera, haha.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Balfour v Cabrera

This WILL BE AWESOME

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Oct 3, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

This has the potential to be epic.

What if O-Cab punks him? I couldn’t live with that.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

This has to be Rec'd.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was hoping he would line into a double play.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bold Prediction

The Balfour Super Finger will become a cultural phenomenon if the Rays make the Series.
They could even do a commercial featuring it in real life situations ala the legendary Boonie Bat Flip spot.

"When I'm a evaluating a player the first three things I look at are: Character, character, and character."
-Charles Armstrong esq.

by Big Jared on Oct 3, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

He'll send dingoes at those babies.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

...Uhh Bunt?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Why sac bunt? Why?

Someone get Maddon on the phone.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes,

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably.

He’s not really saber but he’s open enough that if Friedman or Click tell him “Hey, don’t do ____, it hurts your chances of scoring.” he’ll listen and adapt.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 3, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a wine-o

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

He’s awesome. I love how a year ago every radio host wanted him fired, now he’s “the x-factor” or something.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 3, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend on my bowling team that is a dead-ringer for Maddon.

Trips me out whenever I watch an M’s-Rays game with him.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember a couple years ago,

when he pretty much put the league on notice that the Rays were going to try to steal like 10 bags a game, and I was like, “This guy’s an idiot.” So I was wrong.

I just love that he’s creative. The bases-loaded walk to Hamilton blew my mind. Not the best idea, but just the fact that he had the balls to do it made me smile.

It’s pretty weird that the two managers I respect the most came from the organization I despise the most.

by Teej on Oct 3, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maddon and who?

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duh..

My mind of on beer already, I’m just stuck at work waiting for the IT guy to deliver a new battery backup.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just made a beer run.

No I’m enduring a way-too-strong IPA and praying for a ground ball.

by Teej on Oct 3, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's okay,

I just got a call from the IT guy saying “I’m just leaving Renton now”, and I’m in Shoreline.

Plus it turns out he bought the wrong part, so I just told him “fuck it, be here Monday morning, I have friends to meet at the bar”.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He does some insane shit.

The SI article mentioned the Ortiz shift and having switch hitters bat right-handed only. He’s also shifted so the Rays had four outfielders and of course when he brought Upton up to second for five infielders.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 3, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they really have to debut this NLDS commercial when the brewers are down 0-2?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh oh.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

This could be bad.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Jay Pee should be good.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your pres is dumb?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

A few saber guys on there.

Hoyer, Hahn, and Forst.

Jennings can draft decently, from what I recall. Not sure about his personnel decisions.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 3, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jay pee is so awesome.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry bastards.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Jay Pee is my favorite pen pitcher for a reason.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

The first one was.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH!!! YES!!!!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

STRIKE THREE CALLED

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

First pitch of the inning was a strike/

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Er, AB

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with anything?

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

JP is fucking nasty.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss George.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not anymore.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once an A............

"When I'm a evaluating a player the first three things I look at are: Character, character, and character."
-Charles Armstrong esq.

by Big Jared on Oct 3, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's Miller, right?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

TRIPLE!!!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

CALL HIM LAZY NOW

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

That was cool.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

AJ had no chance.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Woot!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Rocco still has the jets.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Rocco?

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Family Guy + Only One October = Worse than Frank TV?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Family Guy tie in??????

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

We count as Rays fans, don't we?

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant in broad generalization

Mariners fans. Then Rays fans.

Like i’m a Rays fan then a Mariners fan

by Sylar on Oct 3, 2008 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vice versa for most of us.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not.

Although someone should ask for my unbanment if the Rays win the world series….

hint hint

Also screw the bandwagon fans on GAF. I’m the only Rays fan there. Snaku and those other losers = losers

by Sylar on Oct 3, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gah.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a Friday night and I'm watching tv

I’ll be damned if I lose those two minutes

9=8

by JI on Oct 3, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Longo is good at D

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 3, 2008 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I like these Rays fans!

Can you guys stay please? How about we trade Fogel and Corco for you?

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

"An Mariners fan"?

Fail.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're an grammar nazi.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matthew turned me into one.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mathew turned me into a frog.

Good kisser, though.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Oct 3, 2008 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Urine grammar nazi.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Way to go Kazmir, by the way.

Totally turned his game around after that first inning.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Oct 3, 2008 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

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