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Wow, so what? There's not one of these yet?  Maybe someone's busy writing one now, and it's a race to see how quickly we can get it posted. 

In case you wanted to go have the flesh-eating-fish pedicure, well, the state stepped in and said you can't. 

I'm still freaking out about moving next Thursday.  But when I get in the house, should I open a Cabernet Savignon or stick with the Cuvee that I'm dying to open?  I still drink beer, but both my wife and I prefer red wine nowadays...

Where's Librocrat these days?  Busy with politics stuff, I'm sure, but I figured at some point he'd come here and mention something about the apparent suicide of Choi Jin-sil.

Finally, I love this site:

This is the first time I've ever done one of these.

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I am as well, actually this is the first I've been at my desk all day.

And I’m off!!!

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 3, 2008 8:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When you close on your house

you should open your favorite wine. Whatever it is.

I was mere seconds away from opening an OTFPOTD of half-assery myself; thank you for saving the community from my lame attempt at diarizing. Fanposting. Whatever.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 8:32 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So why are there two OTFPOTD's?

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 3, 2008 8:43 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh wait.... Fail.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 3, 2008 8:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are?

There’s the one from yesterday, and the one from today. Unless time has compressed itself to the point where there really is only ever one day.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 8:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd freak out about having flesh eating fish near my feet

I’m saving money and hoping the paperwork pushes through for my next gig soon, as this one ends 10/15.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 8:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully those two statements are not related

I’ve left jobs for a lot of reasons, but never because of flesh eating fish.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 8:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So here's a question

I was thinking about some very odd things this morning. My wife’s gone for two weeks, and she’ll be gone most of the rest of the year, which means I’m deleting all her crappy TV shows off the DVR because otherwise it’ll fill up and she’ll really never have time to catch up anyway.

But then I hit one particular show, and I couldn’t delete it because I found myself still intrigued by it. So, my question to you all is this: What is the most out of character thing about you, as far as your television/music/book/film likes and dislikes?

For instance, I tend to really dislike faux-dramatic TV shows, and TV shows that get all schmoopy with twee indie pop playing in the background, but the show that I couldn’t bring myself to take off the DVR?

Grey’s Anatomy. That’s right, I watch Grey’s Anatomy. I’m not embarrassed by it, I just sorta don’t understand it – it flies in the face of all I like and dislike about television and culture, yet strangely I keep watching it.

So what’s the one thing that you watch/read/listen to, even though you know it’s not in character for you?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:02 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gulp.... I like 70's Barry Manilow.

That doesn’t go very far in proving I’m not square, but he was my mom’s favorite growing up, she took us to see him a bunch of times and if I hear one of his songs on the oldies station I’m all over it.

by royalcurve on Oct 3, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Jones.

I read pdb’s post and thought I was immune to nonsense, above the fray. And no. Tom Jones. That’s all I’m saying.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 3, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of my enduring wishes in life

is to see Tom Jones in Las Vegas once before I die. I don’t want to see him in Portland, in Seattle, or anywhere but Las Vegas.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes!!! Then I'm not alone.

Brilliant conversational topic.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 3, 2008 1:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am with you there. Tom Jones, IN VEGAS.

I just bought a great album off his with remakes of “Mama told me not to come”, “Black Betty” and “Burnin’ down the house” on it.

And I’ll go with Barry Manilow too. Same exact story as royalcurve. I saw him for the first time when I was about 5 years old.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If only my wife wasn't perpetually out of town the rest of the year

she’d kill me if I went to this without her. But the length of his tenure there encourages me that this could be an annual thing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lately I'm making an effort to check out entertainers as quickly as possible.

I’ve missed out big in the past with the ‘catch ’em next time’ decision. Some have died, retired due to ill health, or their performance has become less than stellar for whatever reasons.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 3, 2008 2:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I watched the first season of Greys and thought it was very well done,

but after the first couple of episodes into the second season, I was shocked at how fast it seemed to devolve into soap opera levels.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like *some* Hootie & the Blow Fish.

Generally, I despise reality TV, but I can’t stop watching Hell’s Kitchen.

by Phildopip on Oct 3, 2008 9:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of my favorite bands used to tour with Hootie.

I’m not personally a Hootie fan, but the guys from Jump Little Children went to school with my wife in Charleston. I had never heard of them until I met her (they’re huge on the East Coast, but not really known much over here), but fell in love with their music fast. Recently, they shortened their name to “Jump” – a bad move in my mind. Anyway, they finally went on hiatus, and lead singer Jay Clifford just released an incredible solo album that I strongly recommend.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When I hear the band name "Jump"

I think of a Van Halen tribute band.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of wrestling...

I will be making my official return to the ring in November if anybody is interested.

The good thing about having sex with pregnant chicks is that they cant get pregnant.

by RED29 on Oct 3, 2008 9:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

November 16th and 22nd

Up in Tulalip, as I get more info Ill post it. I should have a handfull of free tickets as well so I should be able to accomidate a few people.

The good thing about having sex with pregnant chicks is that they cant get pregnant.

by RED29 on Oct 3, 2008 10:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RED!!

Welcome back!

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your DVD is going to be done today

Want me to send it to the same address as before?

by Robert on Oct 3, 2008 10:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck yeah!

Im excited, I forgot all about it. Thanks guy.

The good thing about having sex with pregnant chicks is that they cant get pregnant.

by RED29 on Oct 3, 2008 11:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you ever checked out the Ballard wrestling circuit?

I’m not sure about the name, I’ve been to a couple of shows at the Sunset Tavern, at least 18 months ago, may be defunct now. Brilliant, best $5 bucks I’ve ever spent.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 3, 2008 1:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My guilty pleasure is the Mariners.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually have two.

I enjoy reading fanatsy novels from time to time. Especially the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan.

Also, during my work day when I am out making sales calls all I listen to is cheesy upbeat dance music. Helps keep me in a positive mindset when I am out meeting clients and prospects.

by Sec 108 on Oct 3, 2008 9:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm actually a little shocked by this confession...

Because, yeah, I love me some Grey’s. I don’t know what it is about that show, but I’ve always considered it a guilty pleasure.

That and, of course, the new 90210.

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by PositivePaul on Oct 3, 2008 9:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cannot bring myself to even think about watching 90210.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 9:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to think that watching "What Not to Wear" is out of character, but it's really not.

I’d have to say judge shows and trashy Mauryesque talk shows.

A lot of people think I should be ashamed for loving 70s country music as much as I do, but those people are insane so fuck ’em.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Oct 3, 2008 10:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No shame in 70's country.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 10:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of my favorite songs is Tim McGraw's "Where the Green Grass Grows", and I will often listen to country in the car.

I hate the concept behind country music, dislike the djs, and often dislike the artists. But damn, some Tim or Keith Urban or Taylor Swift while driving with the windows down…

Also my Laguna Beach obsession. Hate the characters, hate the concept, hate what it promotes, but love the show.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 3, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Dresden Files.

Maybe not so strange to people, but if you ever met me or had a look at the books I collect, one of these things is not like the other.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 3, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, I have no idea, but I'm curious as well.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

According to cspan.com

it’s scheduled for “this afternoon”.

And we’ll close this subthread now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It passed the House.

subthread closed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Subthread reopened

Funny how $700 billion turns into a negative day in the market because of 159,000 jobs being lost in September. I chuckle at the market giving the “F-U” to this ‘necessary bill’. And I believe the new bill was $850 billion.

Subthread reclosed.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Oct 3, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh look at that

The best airlines for customer satisfaction? Discount carriers like Southwest. As in, the airlines that never cried wolf, never added on surcharges for little things like checking bags and non-alcoholic drinks, never cancelled flights due to fuel costs, etc. Funny how United, American, Delta etc. report huge losses and risk of unsustainability without surcharges, but airlines like Southwest keep on rolling without a hitch. Just a matter of how you allocate and manage your resources, basically.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 9:09 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Southwest has always done it right

Because their initial operating strategy was “do better than the big guys”. And now that they ARE one of the big guys, they’ve kept that same philosophy. For one thing, they can turn a plane around (from touchdown to ready to board the next flight) in less than 30 mins, and it can take the legacy carriers almost twice that. People notice these things. Southwest also doesn’t treat people with contempt.

My wife actually missed her flight yesterday, because she got picked for extra screening in the security line; when she went to the USAir counter and explained that she’d missed her flight due to the security line, the gate agent looked at her and said, apparently with no end of snottiness, “well, you checked in almost 90 minutes ago, I’m not sure how you managed to miss your flight”. Which is exactly what you don’t need to hear at that point. Southwest is good at teaching their people to treat passengers like humans, and not cattle; when every single airline has the same crappy legroom, food, and personal space, these things matter.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is how they stay in business

if they “consistently provide you with horrible service”, why do you keep flying with them? Most airlines price-match within an hour or two of one of them posting a fare; in this day and age there’s no earthly reason to be loyal to an airline unless they’re the only one that flies to a city you need to go to.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Surprising how often this happens (one carrier per *direct* route)

NW has been up and down; I fly them sometimes because the Seattle-Amsterdam route is one of the best ways to get to Europe. I’ve also flown w/them to Hawaii (direct Kona-Seatac flight; no one else does this for now), and been treated horribly. At some level, I don’t really mind. I don’t fly for the flight, I fly to get somewhere I want to go. Certainly it’s a less-terrible experience if you’re treated humanely, but ultimately it’s just about getting where you want to go.

I’m just suspicious of ‘great’ airline service, because I’ve seen good and bad on every carrier from Southwest to Singapore Air. I think if I flew first class it might make more of a difference, but since I don’t….

by marc w on Oct 3, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I used to be locked in to Northwest

because I flew to Minot, ND quite a bit, and they’re the only carrier that goes there; I really try to avoid flying US domestic airlines internationally whenever possible.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What do you do with routes like the Sea/Amst. run that are co-operated by a US and a foreign carrier?

It’s half Northwest, half KLM.

Continental and Virgin used to do the same for certain flights to the UK (LA-London, Newark-London).

by marc w on Oct 3, 2008 9:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I fly BA to London

then EasyJet or Ryanair or whatever to Amsterdam. I have no problem connecting if need be – I just don’t want to be stuck on a US-crewed airliner for that long if I can avoid it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will generally always fly with whoever is cheapest because, like you, I just care about getting there.

But one rule that I do hold to w/r/t to air travel is this:

NEVER EVER FLY THROUGH NEWARK.

EVER.

by Matthew on Oct 3, 2008 9:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did that once, I'm never doing it again

JFK is a complete clusterfuck, but at least it’s a negotiable clusterfuck.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:59 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've had the misfortune of taking 4 legs involved with Newark.

I’ve had one flight canceled due to weather that didn’t exist. One flight delayed for 3 hours. One flight sit on the bloody tarmac for three hours and one single flight that actually left on time (bless you Alaksa Air).

Fuck off New Jersey. I’m flying to Philly or NYC only.

by Matthew on Oct 3, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Newark seems to be the bastard stepchild of the NYC air corridor

Do you ever read Ask The Pilot, on salon.com (if you run Greasemonkey you can get a site pass for free)? He’s a commercial pilot that writes about the aviation industry – he has repeatedly said that “weather delays” are not really “weather delays” at the departing or arriving airport, but one of two things – delays in pilot paperwork completion or weather somewhere else that slows down the whole system. Which is bizarre.

It’s a pretty interesting column, well worth a read.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it was retarded. I can understand weather delays that aren't apparent.

And I’m never going to be like the dipship douchebag in the apple commercials and “dee dee dee look at me I see it’s not raining in Seattle right now durrrrrrr” act like I know everything. However, when you flat out cancel a flight and then I’m standing there looking at a Weather Channel map showing the only rain in the country is in like Maine, you had better come up with a reason beside “weather”

by Matthew on Oct 3, 2008 10:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My understanding is that delays are often due to airport traffic.

You can only land and takeoff so many airplanes in a day. Some of these airports are consistently over scheduling their capacity that if an airline misses their time, they have to go back to the end of the line.

I have two uncles who are pilots; one for Delta and the other for American Airlines. They say they have this problem through cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York.

by Wilder. on Oct 3, 2008 10:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's plenty of room in the sky

not so much on the ground.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:35 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There isn't, really.

Due to the number of airports in that tight area (NWK, LGA, JFK, plus numerous smaller airports and armed forces bases), there is often a wait on airtime. NWK is stuck the worst, because due to the AFB south of them, Teterboro to the west, and NYC to the east, the only approach they have exclusively for takeoffs is the NNE corridor.

You can only fit so many planes on an approach.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 3, 2008 11:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed -I've learned my lesson on Newark

I still don’t much care about carrier, but I really DO care about the route.

I won’t be stopping in Newark again.

I had a long layover in Newark once (surprise!), and my wife and I just thought we’d wander the town, see what was shaking. Answer: nothing. One of the most depressing places I’ve ever been – not because it was squalid or terrifying; just dead. Like everyone there would much rather be somewhere else.

by marc w on Oct 3, 2008 11:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's gotten better, but it's still one of those places people go to work, and then leave.

Doesn’t leave much in the way of culture. A lot of NJ is like that, all the artsy types either exist in the towns or go into NYC. It leaves the cities that don’t actively cater to the culture crowd dead at night.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 3, 2008 11:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the documentary Street Fight

About the 2002 Mayor race in Newark, did a good job of showing how messed up that town is.

by Sec 108 on Oct 3, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Funny thing.

NWK is my main airport, and I fly through there at least once a month (RT) for the past two years. I’ve never had a problem aside from a security gate staffing problem twice.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 3, 2008 10:02 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DONT GO TO JERSEY PERIOD.

I fucking hate that place. Thats where we stayed for a few days. Sucked.

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by RED29 on Oct 3, 2008 10:49 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beholden to some air mile I had with them.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm glad that's never happened to me

because if so, I would end up on several no-fly lists after beating up multiple gate agents. I nearly had a shouting match with USAir when they delayed us for four+ hours because they couldn’t find a plane (at their hub!) and then when they finally did get a plane, they took 60 minutes to turn it around.

End result: I missed my connecting flight by 5 minutes.

US Air’s response: We can help you buy a new ticket. The only that saved me from going apeshit on them was that they were all actually polite and I will never verbally abuse a low rung employee that’s not treating me like a nuisance.

by Matthew on Oct 3, 2008 9:49 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The complicating factor here

is that my wife is completely, utterly, abjectly terrified to fly; it was all she could do to not collapse in a quivering heap when she got to the gate and they said she couldn’t board, because the flight she missed is the only nonstop beween PDX and Philly. She got rebooked on a flight that connected through Phoenix. So, while I probably WOULD have gone apeshit had somebody been that condescending to me, she somehow managed to stay calm, which is impressive considering her flying phobia.

I’m with you though – if they’re nice to me, I save my vitriol and focus on the solution. If they condescend like that, though, all bets are off.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can relate.

I’m terrified of flying too, and any complication at the airport does just makes it worse.

by royalcurve on Oct 3, 2008 9:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

She's got the whole routine down.

90 min before flight: get to airport, get in line, check bag (she’s gone for two weeks and can’t carry on that much stuff)
60 min before flight: go to bar, get double G&T, take first Xanax of the day
15 min before flight: hit restroom so no need to get up during flight
5 min before boarding time: get in line. While in line for boarding, take second Xanax.

So the whole damn apple cart was upset yesterday. I’ve never been afraid to fly, so I can’t really relate, but I can definitely understand her need for order and predictability and it kills me that she was on the other side of security when all this happened.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man.

I feel awful for her. I have a similar routine, and you definitely need it to stay in order.

by royalcurve on Oct 3, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortunately, she made it out there fine

with no other complications. But not a good way to start a two week trip.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:11 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I agree

Working at an airline ticketing desk would be the worst job ever

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 3, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I couldn't imagine wanting to do it.

Free travel is nice, but not worth the crap you have to eat from angry entitled business travelers.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:11 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know.

I think this might be worse.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 10:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But do you notice that nobody seems to mind the SW boarding process?

That’s the genius of SW. They make things like that seem not onerous but entertaining.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:05 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am looking forward to my first Southwest experience this coming Thanksgiving.

I honestly don’t mind sitting anywhere but the very back row (can’t lay the seat back).

by Wilder. on Oct 3, 2008 10:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't move the seatback in exit rows either

but that’s compensated for by first-class amounts of legroom.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

And also not having to climb over people to get to the bathroom and back to your seat. However, I find it particularly annoying when people congregate in your “first class” leg room area. But, it’s a much better position to be in than sitting at the very back.

by Wilder. on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I took a leadership course for work a few years ago...

The guy that taught the course was really an excellent presenter and has written several books on the subject of corporate leadership and how to run corporations successfully. The model he talked about most frequently? Southwest Airlines.

The biggest thing I remember from that class was that how everyone talks about the principle “The customer is always right!” and how Southwest actually didn’t think that way. Their philosophy is that the employee is always right — and that the employees need to be empowered to do things to make it right for the customer, even if it means taking a little bit of a hit with the company. If the employees are happy, they’ll make the customers happy.

Makes a lot of sense to me, really.

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by PositivePaul on Oct 3, 2008 9:35 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nordstrom does the same thing

it’s a critical distinction but one that people don’t understand – happy employees make for happy customers.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always like to use In-N-Out as an example.

Always the friendliest workers in town, because they’re paid relatively well and the company treats them with respect.

by Teej on Oct 3, 2008 9:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the risk of incurring the wrath of whoever

the Apple Store is the same way.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They keep a sense of humor, too.

I love Southwest’s songs that they sing, or jokes they make about landing. I’ve had them say “Wheeeeeeeeeee” upon a rough landing, or poke fun at one another over the intercom. It helps.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 3, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's some sad news.

Ambiorix Burgos of the Mets allegedly killed two women in a hit and run.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spburg025866473oct02,0,2436390.story

That is some fucked up shit.

by Double06 on Oct 3, 2008 9:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's terrible.

You get hit with a Hummer, you don’t get up.

by royalcurve on Oct 3, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You probably don't get up when you're hit by a Civic either.

at least not if it’s going at a decent rate of speed.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 9:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I imagine if you get hit by a Civic you'll fly upwards.

Call me crazy, but I’d rather take my chances in the air than my bones crunched under 24-inch wheels and 3/4 tons of douchebagmobile.

by Double06 on Oct 3, 2008 9:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh fuck.

I just realized that I’m going to be in Mexico when Left 4 Dead comes out. So much for release day excitement, fuck.

by Phildopip on Oct 3, 2008 10:05 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The most awesome opening to a press conference ever

Newcastle United, the most shambolic club in English (and possibly world) football, unveiled their new manager yesterday – Joe Kinnear. he has a, shall we say, colorful way of speaking. This was the very first question and answer at the press conference:

JK Which one is Simon Bird [Daily Mirror’s north-east football writer]?

SB Me.

JK You’re a cunt.

SB Thank you.

Complete transcript here. It’s priceless.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:26 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which would have been hysterical

because I would have pointed out, even though I may be a fucking cunt, at least I don’t manage Newcastle United.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahahahahaha!

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't follow English football very closely,

and even I can tell that is a good comeback!

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is hilarious!

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by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 10:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's not really

just been horrendously railroaded by the press in an impossible job he’s only doing for six weeks.

The guy can’t win and nobody’s throwing him a bone

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by MarkE on Oct 3, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They were worse when it counted

the M’s were probably just as bad over the whole season, but they choked in the clutch.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im so mad their game got rained out when we were there

Not to mention we had their version of Diamond Club seats. I was really looking forward to that one. Great park…fucking rain!

The good thing about having sex with pregnant chicks is that they cant get pregnant.

by RED29 on Oct 3, 2008 11:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So apparently Thursday is in fact the new Thursday

there hasn’t been a bruin sighting yet today. He’s probably passed out in the back room of a bar somewhere.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 11:16 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah. Can't get to Facebook from work and was running late myself this morning

I always forget when my wife is gone I have to feed the cats. I really should teach them to cook.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 11:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly.

I hate it when my finacee is out of town and I have to take on full time cat duties.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

P.S. the bars in Temecula suck

I never thought I’d say this, but it’s back to house parties!

by seattlebruin on Oct 3, 2008 12:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is going to be the future of ticketing.

As soon as clubs figure out that fans will pay $90 for a $35 seat there will never be a fixed price, just a baseline. And that will be a sad day.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I stand to postulate that the NFL is already there

Daily sports where many teams struggle to fill all their seats may not see the problem hit as quickly.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least this is heavy rain for the most part. I hate Seattle drizzle.

Oh, by the way, out of towners, it’s umm… raining.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's pouring down rain in north Seattle as well.

No drizzle here.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 12:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm in Northgate.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 12:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm in Shoreline,

so I’d guess our weather would be pretty similar.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh.

Totally stopped raining here. I should go grab lunch!

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, they're doing construction on 99 just north of my office,

and they have on late shut down for it. That will make it even better. At least I can hit the back roads to avoid it, but I still think that my beer drinking tonight will be delayed.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, look at that

We’re high off the ground in my building, but we do have a catty-corner roof and there’s indeed no rain hitting it.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love and miss Seattle drizzle.

Rain needs to hold off here or I’ll be stuck due to my scoot.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 3, 2008 12:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can you explain Dutch Bros to me?

I moved here not too long before they were taken over, and people still seem bitter about it. Was the coffee that good or was it just a local loyalty thing?

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They've been taken over? Everywhere?

I knew there was a big fuss after Coffee People was taken over.
Dutch Bros has the best coffee creations, in my opinion. Everywhere else makes flavored drinks way too sweet. Their actual coffee is not the best, but their espresso drinks are. And considering it started in Corvallis (I believe) yeah, it’s loyalty.

Same for CP. It’s a Portland brand, or was, and it also made excellent espresso drinks.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 3, 2008 1:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm confusing Dutch Bros with Coffee People

actually, I think i am. There’s still a Coffee People at PDX, though…they’re owned by Starbucks now, right?

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think Stumptown's going anywhere

they’ve even opened a couple in Seattle now. They’re pretty solid.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their Seattle locations are doing good business

and they’ve got distribution deals with quite a few dining locales. Smith Tavern pours their coffee, for one.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And now available in Tacoma

at a shop run by a member of the Supersuckers.

by marc w on Oct 3, 2008 1:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We could trade care packages!

Coffee mug for me.
Grits, hot sauce, Abita for you.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 3, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now you're talkin'!

The barter system is where it’s at.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love it that you do this to yourself now.

Wasn’t someone reading this book? pdb, was that you?

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 3, 2008 12:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'Twas indeed

but I’ve only gotten about three essays into it because I got sidetracked by reading Esquire’s 75th anniversary issue, which took me almost two weeks to get through. I’ll pick the book back up tonight, probably.

The anniversary issue of the magazine has an electric-ink cover; it’s really one of the coolest things i’ve seen in a long time.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The following link is for Corco:

Corco’s link.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DINOSAUR!

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 3, 2008 1:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So the bailout gets passed and the markets still lose 1%+

I am curious as to what would have happened had it stalled in the House again.

by Matthew on Oct 3, 2008 12:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The apocalypse.

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by kevin_ess on Oct 3, 2008 1:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The market was doomed either way.

The financial sector has a habit for whining to get their way. And by whining when they don’t get their way, they sell the market off. When they do get their way, foreign investors pull out because our government continues to destroy the dollar.

by Wilder. on Oct 3, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Say it ain't so Joe"....

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had seen that the market gained 300 points or so before the vote, in anticipation of the bailout's passing

Now I see it dropped over the last 3 hours of trading. Huh.

Citigroup did take a hit once Wells Fargo swiped Wachovia. Also, news of big job losses, over 150K nationwide, well over projections.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm trying to think of who/what would have failed

given Wells Fargo already snatched up Wachovia (and boy is Citigroup pissed about that).

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was there anyone else teetering on the brink?

I think all the precarious ones already failed.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Wachovia was the last big national one

but I’d bet there will be a lot of midsized banks like, uh, that one in California with the dumb name that failed about a month ago (IndyMac I think) that collapse or get subsumed at this point.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IndyMac failed back in July

Not sure which other banks (not investment firms) other than WaMu went down.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thus "collapse or get subsumed"

small-to-midsized banks that carried their own mortgages and didn’t collateralize them into packaged debt will probably be OK, but banks of that size that participated in the whole mortgage fiasco will be in trouble just like the big boys.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the end of all of this

Wells Fargo and Citigroup will be the only major national banks still standing, so they shouldn’t be too terribly upset.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beat me to it.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They probably won't be around for long though

Of those four (JPM, Citi, Wells, B of A) B of A is by far the weakest.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

B of A isn't weak.

Maybe by comparison, but it has zero risk of going under. Plus the just bought Morgan Stanley if I remember correctly.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

B of A's investment arm isn't weak

they did just buy Morgan Stanley. Their retail banking is pretty weak comparatively, though, after all these mergers/acquisitions, and they may decide it’s better to sell off their banking operations and focus on investments at this point.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah I see where you're going

Yeah, can’t blame a decision to sell off and lighten the load.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope not.

My corporate banking is through them, and I don’t want to have to deal with the changes that would cause.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't they just buy Merrill Lynch?

Also, you think WaMu failing was big? B of A is the biggest bank in the country. They posted a big loss recently, but it wasn’t a crippling hit compared to their intake.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That said

I think we’re going to see a big movement towards business with credit unions. Most will still work with the big banks, but the unions are going to see huge growth over the next few years (and probably far better managed than the big banks were).

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, The Gerbils just played on my Launchcast station.

Anybody know anything about this band? The song was from an album from ‘98, and I’ve never heard of ‘em, yet they’re so deliciously lo-fi and awesome.

by Phildopip on Oct 3, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So I just found out that I have to waste 48 hours of vacation in the next month

Any suggestions? Are the Canadian Rockies still scenic in late October?

by Robert on Oct 3, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

48 hours in one month?

Wow. Go somewhere sunny for shit’s sake.

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by Thingray on Oct 3, 2008 1:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't imagine carrying over vacation time

when I’ve worked at salaried jobs I always burn through vacation in the first six months and then have to take unpaid time the rest of the year. Work is less important than life.

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by pdb on Oct 3, 2008 1:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I figure it’s there for a reason: to use it. So why not use it?

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mine carries over.

Yet my company frowns upon taking vacations.

by Phildopip on Oct 3, 2008 1:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The idea is they don't want employees burning out

And employees who don’t take vacations, or only take time off when necessary, tend to burn out more often.

by Gomez on Oct 3, 2008 1:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs