Cashman warned by Gillick about working for Lincoln

by Steve Nelson on Oct 28, 2008 2:45 PM PDT

Sometimes Gillick is like a guy from a slasher movie; even if you think he's gone you know that somehow he's going to find a way to come back and get you.

So now here's Jon Heyman supporting what has been suggested elsewhere; viz., that Cashman never gave any serious consideration to the Mariners job. And it's because of difficulties Gillick had working for Lincoln:

Cashman was warned about Mariners honcho

Brian Cashman is still a Yankee in part because of Gillick's stories about working for the current Mariners regime. Gillick told Cashman for years what it was like to answer to Mariners CEO Howard Lincoln, and Cashman is said to have never seriously considered going there in part because of those stories.

So if Lincoln couldn't keep from meddling when someone with Gillick's pedigree was GM, does the Z-man stand a chance??

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Hmmm...

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by PositivePaul on Oct 28, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions

Ooh, juicy.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 28, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions

Fun

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by Corco on Oct 28, 2008 3:09 PM PDT reply actions

So Lincoln is more of a pain than NYY ownership....

by Edgar for Pres on Oct 28, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah that was my first thought.

If meddling ownership bothered you, is picking NYY the best choice?

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by Eyebrows on Oct 28, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions

"Sometimes Gillick is like a guy from a slasher movie"

I’m thinking Lincoln is the villain here, not Gillick.

by marc w on Oct 28, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions

After Churchill's quote about Gillick in his thread

I’m inclined to say “bullshit”. No quotes, no sources in that article.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 28, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions

The two tidbits of info are by no means contradictory...

And Cashman and Zoinks are likely very different people…

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by PositivePaul on Oct 28, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Why wouldn't it?

If Gillick’s got such a hardon against Lincoln, why would he call and recommend Zduriencik (or anybody for that matter) if he is going to go about warning another GM about Lincoln?

That doesn’t sound weirdly inconsistent to you?

“Hey Cash, don’t take this job, it sucks.”
“Oh hey Howard, take Zduriencik, he’s cool.”

I have no doubts that Gillick hated working for Lincoln and probably complained about it. I just don’t see Gillick going out of his way to put the fear-bomb on prospective new hires for the club. Besides, wouldn’t that be some form of meddling and / or illegal?

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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 28, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Because Gillick didn't talk to Howard...

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by PositivePaul on Oct 28, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Splitting hairs...?

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 28, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

On the other hand...

….I can see Gillick being absolutely honest about how a typical season with Lincoln would be. And let Cashman draw his own conclusions.

by rtang on Oct 28, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly.

This and the fact that Zduriencik and Cashman are likely completely different personalities. Perhaps Gillick knew that Cashman couldn’t work with Howard whereas Zduriencik wouldn’t be fazed by him. Perhaps Gillick and Cashman have become BFFs and it’s Gillick’s turn in a game of one-upsmanship pranks on Zoinks.

//okay, so that last one’s a stretch and probably isn’t true…

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by PositivePaul on Oct 28, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Enough Zoinks. From now on it's Zoidberg. Non-negotiable

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A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Oct 28, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Now Zoidberg's the popular one!

(I apologize if that’s already been done)

by ningwers on Oct 28, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

It has not.

And excellent usage.

by Goose on Oct 28, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Zoidberg!

by BrianL on Oct 28, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Cashman and Z are in different situations

There are only 30 possible MLB GM jobs in the world. Opportunities to snag one are rare and involve a lot of competition. Cashman can sit back and say “Better the devil I know or the devil I don’t?” because he already has one of those jobs. If you’re Z you could spend the rest of your life waiting for another opportunitiy.

by EA on Oct 28, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions