Urgent Help Needed From LL Community
by Fett42 on Oct 22, 2008 5:15 PM PDT
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PrintLet it be known that this Saturday the 25th will be my 21st birthday.* Among other things this means a) Not having to move to like 4 different places with the post-LL/USSM meet group and b) hahahaha Brett.
Anyway, if you need physics advice you go to Stephen Hawking, if you need mining advice you go to anywhere but Utah, and if you need alcohol advice there is of course nowhere to go but Lookout Landing.
Lookout Landing isn’t one of those geeky stathead alcohol communities with their fancy stats like Alcohol By Volume, Puke Probability Added, and tBAC*. Its knowledge comes from good old fashioned personal scouting the way God intended. Everyone knows you can’t reduce a good beer to its stats—it takes an experienced taste evaluator to properly choose which drink to add to their team. With that in mind, I submit a request for refreshment recommendations (beer, liquor, or mixed) from the Lookout Landing community. Bear in mind I will be in New York City and thus unable to enjoy our local microbrews.
Pictures or text are welcome.
I would say I’d try everything suggested but I think the first 10 posts would kill me.
*Random thought that should not be misconstrued as politics: Pro-life bartenders should serve people 20 years, 3 months old
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It's cool, I'll be drunk in Canada with Baker and 3 other friends.
Plus I’m gonna have a bar in my room by December. Being underaged isn’t always so bad.
I have no suggestions however. Everyone else is pretty much better at beer than me on LL. Just be sure to not remember the night.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
My main advice would be that you don't have to try everything the first night.
And you don’t have to drink crazy shit either. You have forever to try everything you want to now.
Hard to recommend a beer without knowing where you’re going, and what they will have available. More than likely you’re looking at local micros (I know nothing about NY micros), or the standard macrobrews.
As for liquor, pick one type and stick with it. Once you start mixing is when you get into trouble.
Man do I love midgets.
I disagree
Life could end tomorrow, you most definitely DO need to try everything the first night. Just make sure you finish it off with a prarie fire, Tequila with a dash of Tabasco. Its an important pick me up after a long 21 run
Alex, being twenty one means being a man. Go for the whiskey.
But not the shitty American stuff. Try some Jameson.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 22, 2008 5:54 PM PDT reply actions
Why did anyone think inventing this was a good idea?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 22, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Knob Creek kicks the ass out of Jameson.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
21 year old on a 21 run
Jameson’s will do fine. Knob Creek is for enjoying, Jameson’s is for quantity.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
You're helping me make my point.
Alex, being twenty one means being a man. Go for the whiskey.
But not the shitty American stuff. Try some Jameson.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Most COMMON US bourbons are swill, but yeah, a really good bourbon would be a great choice
I’m enjoying Basil Hayden’s right now. I prefer it to Knob Creek, partly based on taste and partly due to the canny lack of the word “knob” in the name.
If you’re in NYC Fett, see if you can find some Old Pulteney scotch, or a nice aged Balvenie. If you go with something like Talisker first, you might hate it, and you might hate your next drink too (really peat-y).
Basil Hayden's is indeed fantastic.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2008 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
If you’re going to drink whiskey at a bar (and you actually want to enjoy it) just order a Maker’s Mark Manhattan. It comes in a martini glass. You don’t have to spend 6 months acquiring a taste for it. It tastes good on your first try. It’ll probably run you $7-&10 depending on how swank your bar is.
Personally, I love a good single malt scotch, and will drink Jamesons when I’m slummin’ it… but that takes some time to enjoy. The Manhattan will be tasty, classy and will get you hammered. Don’t eat the cherry right away… let it sit in the bottom of your glass for a while.
Ain't it though?
And it’s a great gateway scotch. I stupidly thought I didn’t like single malts until I tried that one.
Yes... i mentioned Talisker above, but this is an even better example.
Why not just grind up charcoal and pour it into a glass of water?
I was once told this is due to the way they roast the peat moss
Seems to me they are just blackening the crap out of it.
I once ordered a Laphroaig and Shlenkerla Rauchbier at the same time.
I have only recently been able to deal with smoked beers once again.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell is bourbon whiskey? Sounds like a contradiction.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 23, 2008 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Bourbon is a type of whisky
That uses corn in the mash instead of grain/malted barley. Or rather, more corn than grain/barley (2/3, 1/3 or so).
You kidding me?
Bourbon is delicious.
by Liebkartoffel on Oct 23, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Just my preference. I almost never mix whiskey
And straight bourbon is just not my thing. I will admit that the high end bourbons are decent, but not worth the cost for me. I’ll take scotch any day.
Eh, to each his own.
It’s not an either/or situation.
A damn fine bourbon and a damn fine scotch are two of my favorite drinks.
I like bourbon if I am also having a beer.
I like scotch on its own.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Just don't ask to join him.
He drinks alone, with nobody else.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
He is also of the opinion that you talk to much
He can’t believe the things that you say everyday.
If you keep on talking baby.
You know you’re bound to drive him away.
The advice LL gave me was get insanely trashed on your 21st and learn to start drinking once the novelty wears off
I only started to care what I put into me after 3ish months.
When you get back, I will buy you one of these> in return for Felix intel.
I had, uh, extensive practice before
my 21st and was therefore able to appreciate the good stuff on my birthday—thank God for That Greek Foreign Exchange Guy and a college with a ridiculously open-minded alcohol policy.
by Liebkartoffel on Oct 22, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder you turned out the way you did ;P
That said, yeah, there’s value in trying all you can at first, and then scaling back as you figure out your tastes.
Yes yes a million times yes.
This beer is amazing.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 23, 2008 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Just take it easy and try not to get yourself too hurt
The day after is going to be a bitch though
You're not...
nevermind.
Just watch out for wizard cops.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 22, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Amazingly, I escaped my 21er without having a hangover.
I have no idea how that happened, considering I was so drunk that I couldn’t even talk.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 23, 2008 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Best advice I got for turning 21
Take it slow. You want to have fun, and sure, get trashed, but don’t get so sick that you won’t want to drink for a month. And if slow it down you’ll both reduce your sickness probability but also extend the night.
If your friends want you to be conscious for more than two hours
they must allow you water. Also, before you start drinking in earnest, food. Mexican food, preferably, but any gut-filling food will do.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
If they don't you need new friends.
Not drinking water when you’re drinking is stupid and can be dangerous.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But...Bit But,
Make sure you sleep in a familiar place with nightlights. Otherwise you will be pissing all over the place searching for the toilet every 15 minutes due to all of the water intake. Better yet, just sleep in the bathtub…your carpet will thank you later.
If you're in New York and on beer, look for Victory Brewing stuff.
Prima Pils, Storm King Stout and Hop Devil IPA are all excellent, and I would imagine are fairly easy to find in NY,
J.K.L.
Don't trust anything that says IPA on it
This is like jumping straight into “acquired taste” country.
You remember that “Bitter Beer Face” ad… they were talking about IPAs.
Hop Devil is pretty mellow, but I would suggest Prima Pils for a long night out.
Not real high in alcohol, quite accessible. Stay away from the Storm King until you’ve tried some mellower stouts.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Go to Otto's Shrunken Head
on E. 14th in Manhattan.
Start around st. marks, mass quantities of Brooklyn Lager or whatever it is that’s cheap, recoup with a Crif Dog at 113 St. Marks place and then head to the Shrunken Head for more drinks and maybe some bizarre 80s campy horror movie.
Save the Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier for later...
It’s only a beer you appreciate when belgians and good-quality belgian-styles (of which there are only but a few) start to become old hat, and IPAs and other good-quality ales have been sampled.
But you must delve into it at some point. There’s no other beer like it, and it’s definitely a favorite.
This signature space for rent.
A good friend of mine
refers to rauchbier as like drinking a porkchop. This is a good thing of course.
I liken it to drinking beef jerky.
But a lot less chewy.
In a good way, definitely. I wouldn’t blend the two, of course, but it goes very, very well with Chex Party Mix (or whatever variation is available). I used to sit in Archer Ale House in Fairhaven and order a Rauch and some Nuts N Bolts. Good, good times. Seriously miss those days.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Oct 23, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll recommend
The Blue Point Brewery from LI. They will probably have it in plenty places in the city. Their Toasted Lager is very good if you’re looking for a beer you can drink a lot of and still enjoy. NY has plenty of great microbrews… unfortunately I mostly only know the ones upstate around Syracuse
by mariners124m on Oct 23, 2008 9:22 AM PDT reply actions
One topic not addressed
Frugality.
If you’re being cheap, and just want to go wild…
Order gin and tonics with extra lime.
Or a gin gimlet if you don’t like tonic water and want it to taste stronger.
Both of these can also be made with vodka if you don’t like gin.
Ask for the “bar” gin or “bar” vodka and the drink should be $3-$4.
Otherwise the bartender will probably use Tanqueray and the drink will cost $6-$7.
It's his 21st, his over 21 friends should be buying the lion's share of his booze
but those are good suggestions. Except for the concept of a $3 well drink in Manhattan. (most well drinks there are closer to $6-7)
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
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