10/2: Open Rays/White Sox Thread
When Ray Bourque finally won his championship, he was still a good player and actually worked hard to earn it. So dammit Griffey, if your stupid White Sox end up winning this series, it had better be because you did something fucking majestic. This I'm-terrible-and-simply-riding-the-coattails act is embarrassing for everybody.
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Did you even watch the one-game playoff?
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Junior was great.
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doubled and got pulled in the seventh inning because he sucks
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only Kenny Williams oculd assemble a team where his worst outfielder plays center.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After watching tons of Reds games this year,
I’d say that Griffey cost more runs from RF then he does from CF.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say what you will (and most of it is true)
I would be happy for him if he finally got his ring. He may suck now, but he was the greatest I ever saw play (in person) back in his prime. You never left to go to the bathroom if Jr was coming up to bat.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he stung that damned double too...
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey was indeed fantastic
it’s just a shame that his shot at a title is coming when he’s fat and worthless.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying this for a while now.
I don’t care about him getting a ring if he’s not a useful player.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not fat...
I hope to look like that when I’m 63 like Griffey.
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is in much much worse shape than he used to be
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Page 2 had a rather unflattering picture of him.
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that.
I’d still love it if he could somehow make a great catch, or get a key hit to end up with a ring. I’m nostalgic like that.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd really like this too.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's an icon. I'm rooting for the Rays, but if the White Sox win, all bets are off.
I don’t like the White Sox but Junior is the best sports icon we’ve ever had in Seattle. .750 OPS level lead glove or not, I would love to see him get the ring he deserves.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's a bad player he doesn't really deserve a ring, does he?
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's one of the top 20 players of all time.
Even if it’s just because of what he’s done in the past, he deserves it.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he's not
I know you like him a lot, but there are a lot of great players who never won a championship.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't mean great players that never won a championship didn't deserve to.
What 20 players are better?
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
Ruth, Gerhig, Mantle, Mays, Musial, A-Rod, Honus Wagner, Bench, Morgan, Bonds, Ted Williams, Cobb, Aaron, Frank Robinson, Schmidt, Matthews, Snider, Clemens, Maddux, Johnson,
That’s off the top of my head
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey's better than at least a few of those.
A .950ish OPS CF who used to play above average D? Better than a lot of those guys.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets at least throw out the pitchers and compare apples to apples.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your commenting patterns have become very cute over the past year.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there's any sort of reasonable argument that Girffey is better than any of those players
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a reasonable argument that it's difficult to compare players from 90 years ago to the players of today.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His career deserves the ring
Griffey has really put in enough to earn a championship. It’s just too bad that if he does it, it’ll be when he’s embarrassingly bad.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of players' careers deserve rings
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Griffey is among them.
I’m not rooting for the White Sox or anything. But if they win, hey, good for the guy.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly I'm beyond caring because I don't want to be stuck in 1996
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about Griffey either but I didn't live in Seattle and I get why people still do
I expect the same behavior when A-Rod gets close.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you either have to hate them both or love them both.
It’s hypocritical otherwise, I think. I want both of them to get their ring. The best players to play the game deserve their due.
Yesterday's Pants
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason I want him to get a ring is so we never have to hear about him ever again
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want him to get a ring just as much as I want Bonds and ARod to get one
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did somebody kick your dog this morning?
You’re on a tear today.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that
I mean come on, A-Rod had 5 full years here, and he’s going into the hall as a Yankee when its all said and done. Griffey had 11 HOF years here and has done nothing since.
by ack on Oct 2, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was being sarcastic because Seattle fans are hypocrites
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most fans have no idea how poor the M's were in negotiations with A-Rod.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
the A-Rod bashing pisses me off too. Although its not just seattle fans that do that of course
by ack on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just stupid fans that do that.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
but then A-Rod did a lot more for us than he did for most other cities in the league.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he was pretty freaking awesome
Even if 99% of M’s fans seem to block this from their memory
by ack on Oct 2, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate him for the Boeing thing
not for taking a huge payday from Texas.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone would have taken the payday.
But as far as that Boeing thing goes, what the hell Alex?
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So A-Rod was totally worth the money Texas gave to him, right?
Or at least close to it, I’d imagine. Hell, I’d have given Bloomquist $25 mil a year if it meant the M’s couldn’t hamstring themselves with stupid contracts like they’ve done recently
by ack on Oct 2, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer to your first question is yes.
The willie thing is remarkably stupid, even for hyperbole.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lighten up
I was exaggerating just a bit, as you noted
by ack on Oct 2, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bash A-Rod because I don't like him.
He’s like a boring robot. If I never had to hear him speak, or see him in a commercial or on SportsCenter, I’d be fine with that.
He’s an absolutely amazing player, maybe the best of our generation I respect him as a player, but I don’t have to like him.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaun Alexander always reminded me of him
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too cliche, always says the "PC" thing...
Kind of…
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, what's he saying here?
I’m not the best at lip reading, but it looks like he could be saying something along the lines of either “I really haffa go poopie” or “I really want to stick my face in your boobies…”
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Oct 2, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See I agree with this.
To me it seems like he’d get Vidro’s 2007 OPS in a different way as a DH. But when he plays the field he’s such a detriment. But I mean he’s got a 21% LD rate. Even if his power is gone, I think he can still run a .750-.780 OPS. That’s good enough for some dumb team that’s not as dumb as the White Sox to use him as a DH where he’s only below average instead of incredibly horrible. It sucks that his only chance to get a ring is when he’s terrible…but if he got one I’d still be happy.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey as a DH would be pretty bad and a detriment to a team trying to win
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I said stupid team
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I said dumb team.
I am an idiot.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think at least three of us agree in this sub-subthread.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone could have thrown out a runner at home from that distance.
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon?
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Went 2-3 on good outcomes yesterday,
let’s keep it going Rays.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Calling an 11 inning no hitter by Shields.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 10:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's too bad the White Sox get to fall ass backwards into having their ace start game 1.
Of course, he’s a “choker” so…
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Their 2B is a communist too.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you ever read over what you type before you post?
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's cuban and frail and shitty at defense.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But when he laughs does his belly shake like a bowl full of jelly?
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunno, did E.T's belly shake when he laughed?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you on this blog instead of yours again?
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not making it any better.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, Vasquez is their best pitcher though.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though Danks is pretty close.
Buehrle’s 3rd.
And Buehrle’s a poor man’s Jon Lester.
by marc w on Oct 2, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's fun fact
Griffey as a CF: replacement-level
Griffey as a LF/RF: replacement-level
Griffey as a DH: ~0.5 WAR
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
His offense got a lot better over the summer.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played a lot this year
and hasn’t announce his retirement, so…
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vidro was something like 20 runs below average this year. Incredibly poor.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without crunching numbers
He has to worse on just a skill basis: he has significantly less power, and significantly less defensive value.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, his bat ended up ~average
so it comes down to how bad his defense is. I know it’s horrid, but wouldn’t Daric Barton (15 runs below avg at 1B!) and Wily Mo give him a run for that title?
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe either player's 2008 represented his true talent level
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excluding defense, Barton was -.25 WAR this year
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buh?
His bat was terrible and he played 1B. I would have thought that came out to a lot worse than that.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you have Barton as -2.52 WAA, right?
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walk me through your calculation
I’m getting -2.09 for his playing time and -2.80 over a full season.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Tango's calculations Barton should have been paying Oakland money to play for them this year
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had 2.8 as well,
I just used .9 as a multiplier instead of looking up his actual PT.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends what you consider his true talent level and what position he is playing
guys like Joel Pineiro and Jeremy Sowers are really bad.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Khalil Greene and Michael Bourn were worse than replacement level
good heavens
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, wrong again.
If only I had listened to the all-knowing baseball prospectus.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me stupid
but I am going to harbor some hope that Yuni comes back in 2009 about 15 pounds of fat lighter. If Raul is serious about Yuni joining him for an offseason of workouts, we might get passable Yuni back.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pabble Yuni would be a good secondbaseman...
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see no reason to trade Lopez
unless you get something awesome in return.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But Furcal would look almost as good in blue as he would in red.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't have to trade Lopez to sign Furcal.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuni becomes backup?
It’s not like he’s expensive
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With as many holes as we have
it’d be retarded to keep him on the bench when we a hemorrhaging elsewhere
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on record hundreds of times
saying I want them to trade Yuni if they can get something for him. I just doubt they can this winter.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're not going to sign Furcal
So I don’t see how it makes sense to be realistic on this end, while we’re playing fantasy baseball on the other.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ms can afford to sign Furcal.
It’s isn’t fantasy baseball to speculate on what the Ms could do in reality. Speculating on what they will/will not do is more fantasy than this.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't make sense to hold on to Yuni in this situation
unless you are being offered nothing in return. The Mariners just don’t bench regulars like that. They move them elsewhere.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the Mariners did in the past
is not an indicator of what they will do in the future given a potentially new front office.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason I try to move both of them
is that they are two somewhat lazy players who are the most hacktastic hitters in a terrible hacktastic offense. Signing Fucal solves one spot, and if you convert Lopez’s power into a lefthanded or switch hitter that can get on base you it to change the culture of this team.
As for Yuni, if you can’t get value that’s one thing, but if you can you should trade him because it’s wrong to block a guy who could play everyday. A lost season endangers his career.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not disagreeing.
I never said don’t try to trade them. I said you don’t have to.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A not dumb team would probably push him to get in shape and flip him for a positionless bat or relief pitcher
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could really use a LOOGY for next year,
BP is crowded with righties.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baltimore is in desperate need of a shortstop
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't wanna play Lopez/Betancourt at first or third
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, but it seems like a waste of resources to keep one on the bench.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather potentially waste a little resource (Yuni)
and for sure have Furcal on the team then either
-wait on signing Furcal until you trade Lopez thereby risking not signing Furcal afterwards
or
-sign Furcal and then trade Lopez no matter what because you’re unwilling to put Yuni on the bench
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are 72 comments made by me that contain the word "stab"
I’m surprised there aren’t more.
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
44 of my comments contain the word awesome.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.
by kevin_ess on Oct 2, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
45.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My catchword is going to be dildo isn't it?
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Fogel on Oct 2, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd "go gay for any of these words"?
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's Keys to the Game
-Tropi-can’t
-Exercise the Devil
-Can you hear the bats?
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did they really spell exorcise that way?
J.K.L.
by acblue on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made them up.
And the “typo” was intentional.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So can somebody repost the links for people without TBS
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you have your proxies ready or dislike pictures.
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not complaining
I really like the helicopter cam above the stadium.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the future use the subject lines please.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahaha it probably also sends an email to your IT people.
Websense is a bitch.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn - I have it set up at home so I can route my browser through an IP
in Taiwan. If anyone has any good, working foreign IP/port combos, it’d be appreciated if you can send them along. I can’t access the lists due to filters here.
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on Oct 2, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should I care enough to be here during work?
by chinn on Oct 2, 2008 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This better be a quick game because I have to leave for work in 2 hours
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw you, I'm already at work....
:)
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This better be a White Sox loss
That is all I care about.
by Sec 108 on Oct 2, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's a White Sox loss in 10 innings via walkoff Pena slam and I miss it,
I’m gonna almost wish it was a White Sox blowout.
I don’t want to fucking miss this game.
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooh, Mascot Hi-Jinks.
whatever the hell the Ray’s mascot is was dragging around a stuffed WhiteSox player (which appeared to have Ozzie’s face); in retaliation, Dotel took a Mascot doll and Buehrle ran over it with the Mascot’s ATV, nad abonded said ATV in the outfield.
quality entertainment.
by msb on Oct 2, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't it take 1.5 years with the Avs for Bourque to win the cup?
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want the Rays to win
because if they win they will turn into Rays Nation and become insufferable. Look what happened to the south side of Chicago after 2005.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope someone hits a catwalk.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think domes are depressing as fuck
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love 'em.
Nostalgia I guess.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't be half the dump the Kingdome was
the Kingdome was permasticky and concourse smelled like piss
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The White Sox went from Carlos Quentin to Dewayne Wise
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Griffey in center too
honestly, they’re not very good, probably the worst playoff team
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely the reason for the first time in my life I'm rooting against him.
The big fucking baby wanted to play center so bad he’ll ruin his team’s chances of winning. I may never root for another player like I rooted for Junior back in the day, but he really pissed me off this year and I’ve never wanted stupid roster construction to fail more.
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I may have misunderstood.
But I still want bad general management to be denied rewards.
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Quentin injury forced their hand...
It’s either Griffey or Swisher out there and they both suck
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but they have to put one or the other out there somewhere.
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like any smart reader I read into the subtext.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit the top of the first is already over.
On ten pitches.
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's because it's one of three channels shoehorned into a two channel QAM.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's because there's no HD feed on Comcast
if a game goes OT and gets another one bumped to TNT we get to see the glorious beautiful pictures for half an inning or so. I have seen the promised land dammit.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OIC.
I thought all the cable systems fixed that after the outrage last year.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I've noticed that the local news channels are advertising "Broadcast in HD"
which is so incredibly misleading considering their newscast isnt filmed in HD, just 16:9
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ MLB Radio = success!
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The helicopter feed is the most useful of all.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Where is this helicopter feed?
I only get backstop/pitcher/batter/dugout.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so ...
we’re in for two plus hours of watching Ozzie spit seeds?
by msb on Oct 2, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And not be able to hold himself up, yes.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 2, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like a good assistant
Li’l Joey has taken up Ozzie’s spot on the rail
by msb on Oct 2, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He really is.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That has to be the worst plan to conserve energy in the history of plans
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll have to fire up the genration so I can get to the can without breaking my ankle
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fucking spell check
generator
fire up the generator
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good god, someone cure my nostalgia.
I’m finding myself rooting for a Junior home run.
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SHIELDS YOU PUSSY HE SUCKS NOW THROW A STRIKE
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The hot corner views were pretty cool on that
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm loving Hot Corner!
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.
by kevin_ess on Oct 2, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how I pop over to gameday just in time to see Evan Longoria In play run(s).
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Oct 2, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evan Longoria is a rookie playing on a team that's never gone to the playoffs
and because of that he will crumble under the October pressure.
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed coming back to my desk and seeing a Longoria homer on this new nifty hot corner
At least I’m assuming that’s what it was. Why does this not show a score?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 2, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly, my two paper cub and twine internet conection up her is not good enough to stream hot corner.
Shocking I know.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Oct 2, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that have to do with the score?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 2, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because an actual produced broadcast would probably violate their internet usage rights with TBS
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still contend having a live score update in the corner wouldn't.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 2, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It shows the score on the right
outside of the frame, where you select which feed to watch.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which sucks when you want to fullscreen it.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Oct 2, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thousands of places on line you could find this.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes the game.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, no one is going to tell me why Pena is out.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't know.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mind trying that when Willy Aybar steps up to the plate?
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say anything
Dewayne Wise is indeed batting second.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
by Fogel on Oct 2, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, whats with all the massive links to old LL posts?
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"In play, run(s)"
Uh Ohs.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 2, 2008 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh....
He just swung at one in the dirt….
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell is Ken Griffey Jr. playing center field in a meaningful game?
by seattlebruin on Oct 2, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Reasons:

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DRB is on suicide watch.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say me or RJ were on suicide watch.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You haven't suffered enough:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA199510030.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA199510040.shtml
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Tim Belcher is not a good pitcher?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was Mariano Rivera's "statement" game.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm is fun.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do good pitchers like Shields ever throw players like DeWayne Wise hittable fastballs?
Aren’t they bad hitters because all they can hit is a fastball?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hm, I heard Harold Reynolds say "He should've thrown him the changeup, he challenged him there"
But I should know better than to trust announcers.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AKI!!
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Without video I am going to pretend that Griffey fucked that up
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on you lazy sumbitch do something awesome.
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Game Javy
clutch in big games. protects leads with his clutchiness.
by Lents Park Homer on Oct 2, 2008 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
God IE7 does not handle LL gamethreads well
by seattlebruin on Oct 2, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This place is murder on IE
which is a pretty good reason to never use IE.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Firefox or Chrome :o
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't let me install Chrome
For some reason my FF isn’t registering links (yeah, I know, wtf) so I closed it and started using company installed IE
by seattlebruin on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "backstop" camera on this TBS thing
only seems to show the pitcher and is not, in reality, showing me anything either from or in the direction of the backstop. Am I doin it wrong?
by Lents Park Homer on Oct 2, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How did I miss Carlos Pena leaving the game?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LONGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why you should never trust rookies.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LONGO A FUCKING GAIN
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OH MY FUCKING GOD I LOVE YOU LONGO I AM SO GLAD I OWN YOUR JERSEY
by BrianL on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, he's rapidly moving up my list of favorite players.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is he clutch
Or is it jittery rookie homering of an unclutch pussy of a pitcher?
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Game Javy
innings-eating gamer
by Lents Park Homer on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
excuse me.
they are “an interactive entertainment squad”
by msb on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you trade Felix for Ervin Santana?
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd be crazy not to.
That contract is beyond ridiculous.
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to screenshot this to blackmail you
but…
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Longoria might be the most valuable asset in MLB
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no blackmail there. It's sensible.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I can see where you're coming from, what with Longo being really good and all
but I feel like seeing Felix become a beast after all this growing on our team is a great reward and that I would hate to see it happen on another team
by Fogel on Oct 2, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just trying to keep your traffic manageable
Pray to god USSM doesn’t retire
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm biased towards pitchers because they influence so much more whether I can get excited for a game or not
by Fogel on Oct 2, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get excited for games that matter
Longoria would provide for us more games that matter.
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop LLemminging people off of Felix...
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but people on this site can't understand complicated equations like that
by Robert on Oct 2, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but I would change if we traded them
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure you would
But what of the rest of us who will forever feel the longing in our hearts as we look upon our king in new robes? What of those of us who could not bear to see Felix on another team? You’re so selfish
by Fogel on Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evan Longoria is so good it hurts.
Three pitches, two home runs so far. In the playoffs. To take and re-take the lead.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's young and inexperienced, he'll fold in the clutch.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never been more happy to be listening on the radio feed.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oof, Pena scratched his EYE?
As in, his friggin’ CORNEA? Ye gods.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They're saying it's not serious, and he'll be back tomorrow.
But jesus, talk about a freak accident.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Working around the house, somehow.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can actually see how it would happen very easily.
All it takes is a piece of flying detritus hitting an unlucky spot. Hell, a dried pasta shell could do it. That’s your EYE, dude, it’s sensitive.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i know..But still, what are the odds?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also easy to do
if one has an infant around the house …
by msb on Oct 2, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's no Mike Matheny hunting knife incident...
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he wasn't washing his truck.
I'm back to liking midgets too much.
by Thingray on Oct 2, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man up Carlos, I've done that three times.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have actually done it...painful as fuck, world's reddest eye for a few days.
At least he did get Juan Encarnacion’ed.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the worst experiences of my life
getting a scratched cornea (which BTW causes insane light sensitivity) and having to walk to the ER on a bright sunny morning the night after it snowed 18 inches. So I had to move very slowly and the it was the brightest it had ever been in the history of mankind.
by Matthew on Oct 2, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's a feeling like you've dumped three bottles worth of dilating eyedrops into your eyes
Ugh, I’ve had some strange eye issues in my day. Get me drunk and I’ll talk about the eye surgery where they basically popped my left one out of the socket to work on the muscles. Yeeowch.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That actually made my eyes water.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Oct 2, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays radio guys are saying that his vision in one eye is semi-blurry, but that it's not severe.
Blurry vision for a batter? Hmmm…not so good.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should just use the force.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Ozzie seems like a great communicator
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who looks more like an alien:

or
?
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez looks like an alien and Izturis looks like I want to nuzzle the top of his head
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Ramirez has green blood and is capable of shape-shifting?
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shape-shifting yes
green blood no
Cuba Si! Yanqi No!
by Patrick517 on Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shapeshifters don't have blood
and they certainly don’t have Vulcan blood
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are they both staring into my soul?
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way to kill Alexei Ramirez is a blow to the base of the skull with a long needlelike instrument.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I bet he loves Reese's Pieces.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get them much since my sister/mom is allergic to peanuts. :(
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think anyone will refer to the Rays as a saber team
before the day is over?
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rays have a Ray tank
but there’s no Tiger cage at Comerica?
Lame.
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Safeco's beer garden should feature a sailor in a box
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should have a moat with sailboats manned by tiny monkeys dressed as sea captains at Safeco.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they tell me Bud Light offers drinkability.
Are there any other desirable qualities I should be looking for in a beer?
by Double06 on Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New game thread up
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/2/626981/10-2-rays-white-sox-part-2
by Jeff on Oct 2, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait they really have a Nelson Munz soundbyte?
9=8
by JI on Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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