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W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Joe Blanton 4-0 13 13 0 0 0 0 70.2 66 36 33 10 31 49 4.20 1.37

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Derek Lowe 14-11 34 34 1 0 0 0 211.0 194 84 76 14 45 147 3.24 1.13

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Lowe on short rest eh?

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 13, 2008 5:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would actually like to see someone go mythbusters on this.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All sinkerballers

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fogel?

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some people just comment for the sake of commenting

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QSouther?

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you guys get tired of that?

Don’t be the sort of people who require conformity to accept others.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tinkers to Evers to Chance

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know what you were referrring to.

I just hoped I could become “one of the guys” by employing a similar phrase. I just want to be accepted. That’s all. I just want to be cool.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly why people are prone

to become annoyed with you.

You ruined a perfectly good joke; learn from you mistakes.

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

People are prone to become annoyed with me because I say what I think. Oftentimes it’s stupid or ridiculous or disgusting or deserving-of-long-adjectives. The sort of person that you find commenting at DRays Bay.

But in return, you all make fun of me ceaselessly. So its a fair tradeoff. Probably someday I’ll say something that’ll get me banned forever. But until then, I’ll make every possible attempt to be less of an idiot.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You would be wise to let this die.

No one likes the dramatic monologue format.

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll learn eventually.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you keep saying that

and yet it doesn’t happen.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see the Dark Knight?

"Because he’s the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now…and so we’ll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he’s not a hero. He’s a silent guardian, a watchful protector…a dark knight. "

Heh.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said "for no reason"

I deserve it completely.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And let me just say that if Fogel is the voice of reason

you really need to think up a new approach.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understatement

but this is going to have a hard time topping the other gamethread, which is hysterical.

by Omerta on Oct 13, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Dodgers!

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Dodgers!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 13, 2008 5:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

More and more I think throwing pitchers on 3 days rest is a bad idea.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I should yell at someone from BtB to make a post on it.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 13, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would seem that hitting a guy with a sub-.400 SLG

cleanup is a bad idea.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vidro could do that

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 13, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you remember? Vidro hit like 120 home runs....

….in his career.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Torre also benched Kemp for Juan Pierre.

It appears they don’t have much interest in winning anyway.

by Teej on Oct 13, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not Bonds.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly

But walking him in that situation is reminiscent of Barry’s ABs

by Fett42 on Oct 13, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you really need to say that?

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a retarded IBB if I've ever seen one

the worst case scenario is that Man-Ram homers and you tied. Instead you’re inviting a big inning and risking turing the lineup over that much sooner.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It may work out, though.

Blanton made Martin look foolish.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't make it not stupid.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's about a 6% chance Manny ties the game there

It’s just not worth it.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where'd you get those odds from?

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His homerun total divided by his plate appearances - IBBs

Not the most scientific measure, but not 100% retarded either

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm impressed nevertheless.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dobbs

Now there’s one player that I didn’t expect to do anything after leaving the M’s.

by ThundaPC on Oct 13, 2008 5:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He'd be our cleanup hitter...

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You can see that the manager scours the lineup card and the statistics"

“So many ERA and wins to look over.”

My god.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 5:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cardinals had the worst 8th place hitters in baseball?

No way

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't their pitchers bat eighth?

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No WAY.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I KNOW!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 13, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Slurvey

Can you throw a forkball?

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Cubs commercial is hopefully out of date.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay LA

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish the networks could hire a commenter that wasn't inherently distrustful of young players.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could do it without him.

Guilt free!

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would you like your season riding on Chan Ho Park

Seems like you’d go to someone better

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Listen to this man

He is wise

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that's one way to blow a lead.

It’s like giving the the ball to Batista.

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 13, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing is quite like that.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather let Jenkins hit lefty on lefty

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep, Taguchi still sucks

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A Dodger win will provide us with even more baseball.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, if I were to be greedy, I want them to play 15 innings to earn it.

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juan Pierre has been shockingly non-useless today.

I suspect he’s earned himself another start from Joe Torre.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that wasn't the reason Torre gave for starting him.

Torre said Kemp’s slump was the reason for starting Pierre.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, it's depressing to see Manny get IBB'ed.

I do admit that he’s entertaining as hell to watch hit.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chase Utley, eater of souls

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 7:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The truest thing I've ever heard.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't ever agree with me.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Cross-apply previous comment.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You would choose House over the Rays game?

Lose.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God bless the Rays

but it’s not like it’s the Mariners playing Boston in the LCS

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My choice is easier because I don't like House

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KILL THE NONBELIEVER!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 13, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You asked for it, McLovin'

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You played with fire, you got burned.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux warming up!?!

Bwahahahahhahahah!!! Suck it Dodgers!!

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 13, 2008 8:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This comment got me to comparing his numbers to Broxton's.

Now I’m wondering how the defense compares for a closer in the NL, vs. how it looks at the beginning of a game. Kind of dumb question I bet, as managers probably set their line ups based on matchups vs. starting their best defensive lineup.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 13, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good start.

Now don’t screw this up, Ethier.

by Wilder. on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Perfectly timed.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's time.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That *almost* sounds like a photoshop request.

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by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replacing shit in .gifs is so fucking hard

Ronald is easy to modify because it’s only three images but still

by Fogel on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wow, could there be karma on the hunt?

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Goddammit why can't Brad Lidge blow a fucking save?

JUST ONE. JUST ONE FOR ME BRADDY, PLEASE?

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by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know, I know, but this year.

The funny thing is, I was pulling for the Astros when it happened. And even I had to enjoy the hell out of that.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he threw it where the catcher asked for it, too.

In other words, he MEANT to do that.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never tire of watching that gif

that’s one of the most impressive home runs I’ve ever seen.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the stride

that’s a stride that says FUCK YOU CLOWN I OWN YOU.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It says "I JUST ATE YOUR SOUL."

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by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dog dammit.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoops.

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by Taylor H on Oct 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe Angel Berroa is playing in the postseason.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Was he the announcer that got into trouble for making fun of a blind guy?

A couple seasons back, they kept showing a guy with funny glasses in the stands, turned out he was nearly blind. He complained and the announcer (McCarver?) had to apologize on air. I loved it.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 13, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nickname: Psycho

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A stupid announcer getting taken to the woodshed: priceless.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 13, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, you are correct sir! That bumped the memory, thanks.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Oct 13, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we seriously might see Shane Victorino win

NLCS MVP with a sub-.700 OPS. Intriguing.

People haven’t seemed to notice that Chase Utley is beating the shit out of the ball at a level similar to Manny.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Oct 13, 2008 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's all about timing of the hits

Oh, and “heart.”

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 13, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And leading the series in

“RBIs/catches remembered*”

 * © Bill Plaschke 2006

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Oct 13, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't look that bad.

He got 2 of the three hitters he faced, and the only guy who did anything has a 1.583 OPS in the series. I guess you could blame him for the dropped third strike, but I wouldn’t.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Oct 13, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Fuck yeah"

“we fucked that shit up!”

I love crowd mics

by JI on Oct 13, 2008 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs