10/13: Open NLCS Game 4 Thread
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I would actually like to see someone go mythbusters on this.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
All sinkerballers
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
This sounds like a job for someone who doesn't have to do it all manually
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Fogel?
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Some people just comment for the sake of commenting
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't you guys get tired of that?
Don’t be the sort of people who require conformity to accept others.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Tinkers to Evers to Chance
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know what you were referrring to.
I just hoped I could become “one of the guys” by employing a similar phrase. I just want to be accepted. That’s all. I just want to be cool.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This is exactly why people are prone
to become annoyed with you.
You ruined a perfectly good joke; learn from you mistakes.
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
People are prone to become annoyed with me because I say what I think. Oftentimes it’s stupid or ridiculous or disgusting or deserving-of-long-adjectives. The sort of person that you find commenting at DRays Bay.
But in return, you all make fun of me ceaselessly. So its a fair tradeoff. Probably someday I’ll say something that’ll get me banned forever. But until then, I’ll make every possible attempt to be less of an idiot.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You would be wise to let this die.
No one likes the dramatic monologue format.
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll learn eventually.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
you keep saying that
and yet it doesn’t happen.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Did you see the Dark Knight?
"Because he’s the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now…and so we’ll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he’s not a hero. He’s a silent guardian, a watchful protector…a dark knight. "
Heh.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
How pompous.
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by .Taylor on Oct 14, 2008 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You'll get bored of this evetually.
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by .Taylor on Oct 14, 2008 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
"You all make fun of me for no reason"
Who does this sound like?
I never said "for no reason"
I deserve it completely.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
And let me just say that if Fogel is the voice of reason
you really need to think up a new approach.
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For the longest time I thought everyone hated Fogel.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This is not an incorrect assumption.
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I think that's the trick.
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by .Taylor on Oct 14, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, Fogel waited awhile before busting out the puns
giving us ample time to like him and make him unbannable
by seattlebruin on Oct 14, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Understatement
but this is going to have a hard time topping the other gamethread, which is hysterical.
Go Dodgers!
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
More and more I think throwing pitchers on 3 days rest is a bad idea.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
I should yell at someone from BtB to make a post on it.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It would seem that hitting a guy with a sub-.400 SLG
cleanup is a bad idea.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
Don't you remember? Vidro hit like 120 home runs....
….in his career.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Torre also benched Kemp for Juan Pierre.
It appears they don’t have much interest in winning anyway.
I really think he could have taken second if he had wanted.
J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.
He's not Bonds.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you really need to say that?
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a retarded IBB if I've ever seen one
the worst case scenario is that Man-Ram homers and you tied. Instead you’re inviting a big inning and risking turing the lineup over that much sooner.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
Gameday is broken. The Phils scored 2 in their half?
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It may work out, though.
Blanton made Martin look foolish.
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Doesn't make it not stupid.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
There's about a 6% chance Manny ties the game there
It’s just not worth it.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Where'd you get those odds from?
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
His homerun total divided by his plate appearances - IBBs
Not the most scientific measure, but not 100% retarded either
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm impressed nevertheless.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd be our cleanup hitter...
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
"You can see that the manager scours the lineup card and the statistics"
“So many ERA and wins to look over.”
My god.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
The Cardinals had the worst 8th place hitters in baseball?
No way
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
Didn't their pitchers bat eighth?
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
No WAY.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Slurvey
Can you throw a forkball?
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
This Cubs commercial is hopefully out of date.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
I wish the networks could hire a commenter that wasn't inherently distrustful of young players.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA

"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They could do it without him.
Guilt free!
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
How would you like your season riding on Chan Ho Park
Seems like you’d go to someone better
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
Listen to this man
He is wise
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that's one way to blow a lead.
It’s like giving the the ball to Batista.
BOOYA! You got Slurved!
Not really
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing is quite like that.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather let Jenkins hit lefty on lefty
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
Yep, Taguchi still sucks
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
A Dodger win will provide us with even more baseball.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But, if I were to be greedy, I want them to play 15 innings to earn it.
"Jon Lester is the best pitcher in baseball right now" -Buck Martinez, manager of team USA
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I can get excited for pretty much any Major League Baseball anywhere.
J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.
You're a fan of an NL team
it’s hard for me to get excited about a league that I by and large ignore all year.
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I ignored the Philles and Dodgers nearly all year too.
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
There's only one chance to enjoy all this hot postseason action
There’s only one October
I actually like that slogan.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a pretty interesting game, objectively speaking.
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Juan Pierre has been shockingly non-useless today.
I suspect he’s earned himself another start from Joe Torre.
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Staring him against a pitcher with wide platoon splits isn't a terrible idea.
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
But that wasn't the reason Torre gave for starting him.
Torre said Kemp’s slump was the reason for starting Pierre.
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Still, it's depressing to see Manny get IBB'ed.
I do admit that he’s entertaining as hell to watch hit.
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The truest thing I've ever heard.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Cross-apply previous comment.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
While non-travel off days during the LCS are the height of the effect that TCs faggotry has over baseball
…at least we get to see House tomorrow
You would choose House over the Rays game?
Lose.
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Tell me the score at 8:00 and I'll get back to you.
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
God bless the Rays
but it’s not like it’s the Mariners playing Boston in the LCS
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
My choice is easier because I don't like House
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Eh, I'm shamelessly trolling JI with anti-House statements.
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It's awesome when you get to burn someone else, though.
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The only good thing even to come from F*R*I*E*N*D*S
was that it actually inspired my one of my friends to invent fire ball.
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It involves a tennis ball that is on fire
the rules aren’t important
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone I know attempted to play Calvinball.
It was kind of exciting. Lots of running. Lack of rules.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Maddux warming up!?!
Bwahahahahhahahah!!! Suck it Dodgers!!
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
I like how no one seems no notice his K-BB ratio.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This comment got me to comparing his numbers to Broxton's.
Now I’m wondering how the defense compares for a closer in the NL, vs. how it looks at the beginning of a game. Kind of dumb question I bet, as managers probably set their line ups based on matchups vs. starting their best defensive lineup.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Perfectly timed.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You're the Hasselbeck to my Nate Burleson?
Those are two fairly successful players on your team right?
Not anymore.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll learn someday.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
When the Falcons got into field goal range
I laughed so hard I lost my balance
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like this better if the ball were replaced by a spinning Youkilis
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What, you wouldn't enjoy seeing Albert Pujols blast the fuck out of the head of Kevin Youkilis?
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I had a sacred moment and then the Ducks happened
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Post the Beltran .gif, JI
Do it for me.
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That *almost* sounds like a photoshop request.
J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.
Replacing shit in .gifs is so fucking hard
Ronald is easy to modify because it’s only three images but still
I miss Dobber.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:40 PM PDT reply actions
No you don't and if you do you're stupid
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Not worse than what he was at the time
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow, could there be karma on the hunt?
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Goddammit why can't Brad Lidge blow a fucking save?
JUST ONE. JUST ONE FOR ME BRADDY, PLEASE?
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I know, I know, but this year.
The funny thing is, I was pulling for the Astros when it happened. And even I had to enjoy the hell out of that.
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And he threw it where the catcher asked for it, too.
In other words, he MEANT to do that.
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I never tire of watching that gif
that’s one of the most impressive home runs I’ve ever seen.
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It's Albert's stride afterwards, plus the way Lidge DUCKS after the swing, that does it for me.
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I don't know if I like this more or less than the Ted Lilly glove slam
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right, the Ted Lilly glove slam may be its equal.
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I love the stride
that’s a stride that says FUCK YOU CLOWN I OWN YOU.
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Can it really be? Even if it was done in a losing cause?
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Nah. We won the series. The Cards merely won the game, and went on to lose the next night.
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Yes, but we got one more day when a loss was certain
It’s the most clutch hit I have ever seen
by JI on Oct 13, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That can't be the same neutralizing slider he throws everyone else
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
that looked much more meaty than neutralizing
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Shhh, he hasn't posted a link to RickRoll or said "lol" yet.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
There are 2 JIs.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I have eyes like a hawk.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Dog dammit.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions
Whoops.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
all those subway double meat sandwiches make you fast.
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I can't believe Angel Berroa is playing in the postseason.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Being that this isn't the World Series and Nomar blows that might be trouble
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
But it's a Must-Win Game!!
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Shane Victorino isn't going to let any damn Dodgers take this game

by msb on Oct 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
OH MY GOD.
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by .Taylor on Oct 13, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Was he the announcer that got into trouble for making fun of a blind guy?
A couple seasons back, they kept showing a guy with funny glasses in the stands, turned out he was nearly blind. He complained and the announcer (McCarver?) had to apologize on air. I loved it.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
A stupid announcer getting taken to the woodshed: priceless.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Ah, you are correct sir! That bumped the memory, thanks.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
So we seriously might see Shane Victorino win
NLCS MVP with a sub-.700 OPS. Intriguing.
People haven’t seemed to notice that Chase Utley is beating the shit out of the ball at a level similar to Manny.
Go Nova
It's all about timing of the hits
Oh, and “heart.”
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He didn't look that bad.
He got 2 of the three hitters he faced, and the only guy who did anything has a 1.583 OPS in the series. I guess you could blame him for the dropped third strike, but I wouldn’t.
Go Nova
If that came from Mary Hart I'll be mighty impressed
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