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10/10: Open ALCS Game 1 Thread


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - James Shields 14-8 33 33 3 2 0 0 215.0 208 94 85 24 40 160 3.56 1.15


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Daisuke Matsuzaka 18-3 29 29 0 0 0 0 167.2 128 58 54 12 94 154 2.90 1.32

I can't believe this is actually happening.

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They moved Crawford to fifth in the order?

Good for them, but I thought that was pretty much a nonstarter.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ATTN FOR THE MOST RANDOM QUESTION EVER ASKED ON LL:

Does anyone here happen to own the “Archives #2” boxed set by the band Genesis?

Yes, I know, it’s a ridiculously random question, but I’m suddenly a bit desperate here. Very sorry. And if one of you morons actually happens to have it, I might be the happiest kid on the planet.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, I didn't think anyone would.

I’m a sad panda. I lost disc 2 of the set when I need it the most.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dad does.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping someone could post a link to a couple missing tracks I need from the second disc.

I lost my copy, I need those songs posthaste, and I dunno where to find them online. Can’t even buy them as downloads from Amazon. Oh well.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYSRAYS

GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Oct 10, 2008 5:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A/S/L check (not really)

What’s everybody drinking right now?

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 5:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, when was the last time I had a German beer, I wonder.

It was probably a Bitburger in the Spring and I was slightly disappointed after having it recommended to me.

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bitburger is not very good

Veltins is neither that good, but I lack alternatives right now

by Schuxu on Oct 10, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hi Schumacher.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.

by kevin_ess on Oct 10, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I will mix a coffee in between

It was a long day and it is a 2:40 already

by Schuxu on Oct 10, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes!

have we seen the lavender jacket before?

by msb on Oct 10, 2008 5:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else waiting for...

Craig Sager to ask “Why so serious???”

by dkulich on Oct 10, 2008 5:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ahahaha

Sit the fuck down

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean

I want the Rays to win but there fans just dont deserve it…

by Eagle18 on Oct 10, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes, it's not about the fans.

The Rays players deserve it and the great FO that has tried to accommodate their fan base deserve it.

by Wilder. on Oct 10, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see empty seats.

HOW DO YOU HAVE EMPTY SEATS IN YOUR TEAMS FIRST TRY FOR A PENNANT?

by Goose on Oct 10, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we deserve it.

And the nation deserves a Boston loss.

by Matthew on Oct 10, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the whole sport really deserves it.

As does Fox, in the opposite sense.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh damn.

You just referred to Red Sox fans as “the nation.” This is easily to worst thing to ever from the 2004 World Series.

Steve Berthiume always refers to them as “THE nation” and it drives me insane.

by Wilder. on Oct 10, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I being curmudgeoney if I say that I think noisemakers shouldn't be handed out?

If a few people sneak in a cowbell, that’s awesome and adds personality. But if everyone is given a cowbell at the door, it seems gimmicky and quite obnoxious.

Same goes for the Angels fans’ clapping things.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My least favorite part of this game is the part where Pedroia got on base.

Because he needs to take a big step back and literally fuck his own face.

54!

by joof on Oct 10, 2008 5:49 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Worth every penny.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makes me shudder.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 10, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what about momentum, Tito?

Game 1 is always most important.

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 5:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"He won't give up many hits."

That tends to happen when you walk a guy 13% of the guys you face.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 5:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would just like to point something out:

Kazmir-Shields-Garza-Price-Sonnanstine. For years and years to come.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 6:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hellickson, Davis, Mcgee, Barnese, Lobstein, Niemman....

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arguably the best trade?

Arguably?

Kazmir-Zambrano was the most lopsided deal of recent memory.

by Matthew on Oct 10, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Aramando Galarraga...

…who was left off the 40, picked up by Detroit, and gave the Tigers the following this season:

13-7 record with a 1.19 WHIP and 90 tRA+.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 10, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was better than...

…a decent number of the guys the Rangers had to call up to replace their already below average hurt starters.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 10, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've tried ostrich before.

It’s actually pretty good.

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 6:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, the M's originally signed Ortiz?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 6:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

....And traded him for Damon Hollins to the twins?

God your FO sucks.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave Hollins*

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My memories of Dave Hollins were awesome.

Whatever. He couldn’t do anything but hit and he wasn’t exactly real young for the league he was in.

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They released him, and trade Garza for Delmon, so...

Awful.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

;_;

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not even close to being sold out?

Mariners fans aren’t really that bad, huh?

9=8

by JI on Oct 10, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Upper seats aren't available for tix.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obstructed view, they'd be available for a theoretical WS.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why not sell them?

The Kingdome had seats where you couldn’t see center of right field, but they sold out like mad anyway.

9=8

by JI on Oct 10, 2008 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The MLB is making them sell them in a WS.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They do.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marlins, too, I believe.

Cracks me up. Like people are going to see them and think “Cool, look at that huge logo they installed!”

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This no-hitter is completely unacceptable.

Especially because Shields has been so awesome.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A star. It's dumb.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I swear this isn't hyperbole:

Buck Martinez is the worst baseball commentator alive. I honestly think he’s worse than Joe Morgan or Hawk or Hudler or anyone else you want to throw out there.

Maybe it’s because I seldom hear him, but it’s just a constant, painful fountain of dumbfuck.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll answer it anyway:

The Buck Martinez mascot is a brain being hit repeatedly with a hammer. And it talks like Bud Selig.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to buckle down, Jimmy Shields

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I willm murder you.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's ever acceptable to root for the Red Sox.

I mean, even when Jon Lester was throwing his no-hitter, I was rooting for the cancer.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not rooting for the Red Sox, I'm rooting for the no-no.

It just happens to be thrown by a Red Sox pitcher.

The Rays could help this by actually getting a hit.

by Goose on Oct 10, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

American Idol runner up.

I wish he was discovered when he was 25, less dorky, and actually had the maturity to back up his voice.

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 10, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

when he was introduced

I was expecting the former Arizona State linebacker

by msb on Oct 10, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess how many hits the Matsuzaka has given up

He has given up zero hits which means he is throwing a no-hitter

no-hitter no-hitter no-hitter no-hitter

by Nick S on Oct 10, 2008 7:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh good.

Now hit a home run.

by ThundaPC on Oct 10, 2008 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Weee

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Oct 10, 2008 7:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rays are a competent team.

I have faith in their ability to score the runner from third with nobody out.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see us in July?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but I also see you playing in an ALCS after winning the AL East.

I have faith. It could all go pear-shaped, sure, but I have faith. I’m fucking Job here.

Or maybe G.O.B. “COME ON!”

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double 06 jinxed it.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Oct 11, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAYS

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

First shot to the kidneys.

That’ll slow him up for sure. Then you can start wailing on him.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, Dioner.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Motherfucker.

If the Rays can’t plate this run, I’m afraid they lose.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Somebody popped my balloon.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just keep swinging hard at everything, Pedroia.

You will be out of baseball in five years.

by Wilder. on Oct 10, 2008 8:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's "White Mike" McArdle

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or perhaps an extra from "American History X" or "Higher Learning"

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's my favorite season of the series.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh. I just like the fact that it gives you a world that has NEVER been covered in-depth on television before (at least as far as I know).

Plus, Niko is one of my favorite characters in the entire series.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I'm with you.

It was a great idea, and a natural evolution of the show. White people have problems, too.

I thought Season 3 was the best overall. The Stringer-Avon stuff was incredible.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, the Rays are gonna lose.

Time to go do something else.

by Goose on Oct 10, 2008 8:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So the Rays will see Delcarmen in the 8th and Papelbon in the 9th?

Shit.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Come on feel the noise"

You mean the artificially cowbell craptastic induced noise?

by Goose on Oct 10, 2008 8:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF THIS IS CLOWNSHOES

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Still, after all the history."

The Rays have existed 10 years. I know there have been a few scuffles, but com’on, this is not some longtime rivalry.

by Wilder. on Oct 10, 2008 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Balfour remains badder than Leroy Brown, meaner than a junkyard dog.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dice-K still?

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AKIMURA IWANORA!

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who needs to read the other comments in a subthread?

That obviously takes away the fun.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Oct 10, 2008 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Oct 10, 2008 8:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, we can do it this time.

Yes, WE.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, how did Upton single and Iwamura not advance to third?

This is what I get for briefly losing my radio feed.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Infield single.

Hard hit to third, and Youk bobbled it around.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youkilis knocked it down

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 10, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KJHBS?

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, whatever you do DO NOT SWING CARLOS DO NOT SWING.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

JESUS GOD YOU DUMB FUCK

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And it was ball four, too, probably.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You take the walk and let Longoria come up with the bases loaded.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pena can hit, with a worse hitter I'd be upset

but you can’t tie’s your star hitter’s hands like that

9=8

by JI on Oct 10, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Joe Maddon were really that innovative he would have.

Even in a 3-1 count, Pena’s sitting on the advantage.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to keep them honest

If you don’t swing at a watermelon on 3-0, you’re hurting yourself.

9=8

by JI on Oct 10, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess. It doesn't make the pain go away though.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait on a breaking ball?

Were they not watching home run #2 in Game 1 of the divisonal series?

by Double06 on Oct 10, 2008 8:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God, I feel so...doomed.

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw shit.

The Rays are boned.

by Wilder. on Oct 10, 2008 8:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

THERE IS NO GOD

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by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Evan Longoria has turned into Jose Vidro

I expect him to hit himself in the face during his next at-bat.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else as sick as I am

of hearing about how Boston can manufacture runs now and doesn’t just have to hit homers?

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Oct 10, 2008 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also,

Crisp and Lugo — two of their fasted players — have been riding the bench.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a "new-look Red Sox offense," you fucking cock goblin.

This is the same team that it was before Manny left. They just replaced him with a guy who hits a little bit worse and fields better. They’re not “manufacturing” any more runs than they used to. Ellsbury and Pedroia can steal bases. Nothing has changed.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crawford, Floyd, Navarro vs. Papelbon

Rays are boned.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 10, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crawford just got totally owned

3 swings, 3 misses vs fastball

by Fett42 on Oct 10, 2008 8:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations Tampa Bay, you've completely embarrassed yourselves today.

With your inability to fill up your shitastic ballpark, your use of the worst noise generators in history, and your miserable performance on the field.

Do better.

by Goose on Oct 10, 2008 9:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah dammit...

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 10, 2008 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So how much credit can we give Matsuzaka for being able to "pitch better with runners on base"?

Seems like you’d normally chalk it up to luck, but is this a repeatable skill for some pitchers?

A good defense helps, obviously.

by Teej on Oct 10, 2008 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It seems for Matsuzaka that this is a repeatable skill, I just saw an awesome stat:

“Opponents were hitless in 14 at-bats against the right-hander (Matsuzaka) with the bases loaded during the regular season”

Also colloquially, from someone playing behind him:

’’He’s amazing,‘’ Youkilis said. ’’He gets out of jams better than anyone I’ve ever seen.’’

And from what I’ve seen of him he’s one tough mofo to score off of (despite the walks).

by Sam Regens on Oct 10, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have eight watches. None of them are fake.

by RafaelCarmona22 on Oct 11, 2008 12:49 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Thank you for using your subject line in future pictures.

It really helps for people with RDP, slow browsers, and that like keeping their threads clean.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 11, 2008 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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