You have corrupted me

by Corco on Jan 30, 2008 2:11 AM PST

For the last week all I have been drinking are Pyramid and Red Hook sourced beers. Tonight I got drunk off some Jager and then went to drink Icehouse to continue my inebriation. I could not drink it. I switched to Hefeweizen and ESB and was able to comfortably drink.

I am having issues drinking cheap beer. And its your fault.

I have never been happier.

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cheers, mate.

by sirbrianwilson on Jan 30, 2008 3:57 AM PST reply actions

Killian's

is as low as I can go anymore. I raise a glass of Yuppie Ale to you.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 30, 2008 6:17 AM PST reply actions

same

by weebs on Jan 30, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions

Good for you and your tastebuds.

Last weekend I had the same problem when my bro-in-law brought over some Natty Ice. I almost made it through one. I decided I'd rather not have any beer than drink that.

by Jed MC on Jan 30, 2008 6:55 AM PST reply actions

Snifff....

the boy's growing up...sniff...they grow up so fast nowadays....sob

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 7:04 AM PST reply actions

Huh?

Pyramid and Red Hook ARE cheap beers. Red Hook, in particular, produces some most heinous macro micros.

by Masque of the Red Death on Jan 30, 2008 7:21 AM PST reply actions

Couldn't agree more

I love anything from Deschutes, but many of the Microbrews have gone downhill. I am not sure Pyramid was ever good and Redhook has gone down the tubes since selling off distribution to Annheiser-Busch.

by Sec 108 on Jan 30, 2008 8:20 AM PST up reply actions

Doesn't make sense

AB doesn't touch Red Hook's brewing or quality - all they do is market and distribute. Red Hook's pretty much the same beer it's always been - which isn't my favorite beer, but Ballard Bitter will always have a place in my, uh, liver as the first micro I ever drank.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 8:23 AM PST up reply actions

here here

I don't drink it much now, but I have fond memories of Ballard Bitter dating back to when it was the title of a Treepeople song.

Does it really suck now?

by marc w on Jan 30, 2008 8:26 AM PST up reply actions

The Treepeople were cool

I haven't listened to them in years. Gotta pull that one off the shelf one of these days.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 8:29 AM PST up reply actions

Treepeople, wow!

I haven't thought of them for years. I still listen to Built to Spill though.

I am pretty sure Ballard Bitter as a brand name is gone and is now just their IPA. It was my understanding that AB does brew and bottle Redhook for most of the country now. Only the Redhook we get around Seattle is actually bottled by Redhook. Just my opinion, but I always preferred the beers brewed in the old Fremont brewery.

by Sec 108 on Jan 30, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions

Not the IPA

I think you mean ESB.

by marc w on Jan 30, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions

I meant IPA

But I was incorrect.

by Sec 108 on Jan 30, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions

AB only distributes Redhook

Redhook still brews and bottles its own beer

by ningwers on Jan 30, 2008 9:12 AM PST up reply actions

Of course, Black Butte Porter kings all,

but there's a beer from New Belgium brewery, 1554, that I've been drinking quite a bit lately. If you like Black Butte, you should like this one a lot too.

by nathaniel dawson on Jan 30, 2008 7:06 PM PST up reply actions

im a fan of 1554

by Matthew on Jan 30, 2008 10:43 PM PST up reply actions

I think red hook is fine

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 30, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions

Awwww

Our little Corco is finally growing up.

"You guys should be in every major city. This is some heavy shit. This is, like, Lone Ranger heavy, man."

by AZSEAfan on Jan 30, 2008 7:58 AM PST reply actions

all about...

Dead Guy Ale!

Wrad Bilkerson!

by larrybowa on Jan 30, 2008 7:59 AM PST reply actions

Seconded

No matter what else is on the beer shelf in my fridge, there's always at least a six-pack of Dead Guy.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 8:04 AM PST up reply actions

Hell yes.

You know, Dead Guy may be the most delicious beer on the whole damn planet!

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions

I've said it many times

They've never produced a bad beer. Their bitters are really good, the Morimoto Soba is really good, and all their IPA's and stouts are great too. The brewpub has really good food, too. It's pretty much the Platonic ideal of the word "brewpub".

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 8:14 AM PST up reply actions

Are you talking about the one in the Pearl?

If so, I've never been impressed with that place, or really Rogue beers in general. I love the Dead Guy, but I've never really been a fan of their other beers.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 8:54 AM PST up reply actions

oh SNAP!

You are entering a world of PAIN, smokey.

by marc w on Jan 30, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions

You're dead to me.

I don't know why I love Rogue more than all other brewpubs - lord knows I've been to my share - but for some reason I really like all their beers. There's some I don't drink a lot, but by and large, if it's Rogue it's gonna be good.

The brewpub has better food than a lot of brewpubs, and even though it's technically "in the Pearl" it carries none of the pretension or annoyance that being in the Pearl would normally connote, which is one of the reasons it's a good place to hang out.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions

I can see your point

and I agree with you wholeheartedly about the Rogue Brewery not being as pretentious as most other Pearl District places. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that given the choice between going to a brewpub that has decent beer and decent food (and probably the best brewpub and eatery in Portland), and going to a bar (like the Blue Monk) that has great food and a wide assortment of exotic beers, I'll choose the bar every time.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions

I see that, too

and if I'm feeling in a mix-my-beer type of mood, I'll probably head to a place like Oaks Bottom or the Blue Monk. But most nights I stick with one or two beers, and that's when the Rogue becomes my friend...

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions

Monk Madness

Is the best rogue beer. hard to find bottled though.

by weebs on Jan 30, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions

What about that malt liquor

they made for Father's Day?

by chaney on Jan 30, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions

hear hear

Yesterday's Pants

by Katal LM on Jan 30, 2008 8:17 AM PST up reply actions

Apparently produces typo-free drunk diaries too

weird

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 30, 2008 8:20 AM PST reply actions

I miss Oly Stubbies!

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Jan 30, 2008 8:47 AM PST reply actions

Agreed!

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 30, 2008 8:59 AM PST up reply actions

I miss getting Lucky

on Friday nights in Oly...

by Astrobiology on Jan 30, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions

I' beginning to wonder

when LL is going to end up in AA? heh

by MfaninAlaska on Jan 30, 2008 9:06 AM PST reply actions

in unison

"Hi, our name is Lookout Landing, and we're an alcoholic (singular)."

by seattlebruin on Jan 30, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions

We could form our own AA group

and it'd probably work about as well as the time they did that on Rescue Me, but without the fistfights.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 9:28 AM PST up reply actions

Coach Owens will save us from ourselves

by Graham MacAree on Jan 30, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions

Beer Question

So, I probably missed the boat, given that I'm out of college and have had max, seven beers in my life, five of which came at Nationals games.

But, I know that I'm not a fan of the heavy stuff, I'm not a fan of the cheap stuff. The only two beers I've had that I've liked on any levels were Blue Moon and Sam Adams Winter Ale.

Can anyone make other suggestions?

by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 30, 2008 9:28 AM PST reply actions

Welcome to LL

The search function is your friend. Comb through those and you'll be set.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions

Starter Beer

I think Hefeweizens are a great starter beer. I personally like Pyramid, but I think just about any Hef will do you good.

by edgar is good on Jan 30, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions

Widmer hef = close to authentic

It's good stuff, actually.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 30, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions

Hmm

Try a Weihenstephaner Hefeweiss and see how close to authentic Widmer tates, and with no lemon of course.

by thepull on Jan 30, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions

blue moon is awesome

def my fave beer, but i agree, any of the hefeweizens will do just fine

by seattlebruin on Jan 30, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions

Blue Moon rocks!

It's really good stuff, especially in a chilled glass on tap.

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Jan 30, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions

I'm not gonna lie

Blue moon with a little orange in it is pretty good and kicks any hefe's ass I've had. Widemer isn't too bad though. Alot of them suck though and maybe its just in my head but i tend to feel like i get more hung over drinking them.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 30, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions

Maybe they'll let you back on USSM now.

Baka.

by CapSea on Jan 30, 2008 9:54 AM PST reply actions

I feel bad when I visit my family

My father will offer me beer from his fridge. But it's crap like MGD, Michelob Ultra and Bud Light, and the micros and imports here in Seattle have spoiled me so bad that I practically can't physically drink it. I usually refuse.

Sometimes I'll accept Bud Light since it's watery enough to offset the pissy quality.

by Gomez on Jan 30, 2008 10:02 AM PST reply actions

I actually don't mind MGD.

/hides

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions

MGD is context-specific

In the summer, at a baseball game, I'll drink MGD, because it's the "cheaper" alternative to good beer inside the ballpark.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions

miller lite ftw

half the carbs of bud light!

by seattlebruin on Jan 30, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions

Redhook isn't all that cheap.

Unless you have a friend who works at the brewery... lemme tell ya, brewing date with most Red Hook beer makes a huge difference. If you got a batch that was just bottled, I swear you get tossed so much quicker.

I remember one day he came to work with a 24 pack of Longhammers... that thing hits like a brick.

by TyranT on Jan 30, 2008 10:37 AM PST reply actions

Though...

NOTHING beats Terminator Stout to me. Still my damn favorite beer. It'd be great to have an LL night over at McMenemins. That way I don't look like a complete nutball here.

by TyranT on Jan 30, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions

Terminator Stout is very good.

The Hammerhead is decent.

Everything else McMenamins sucks.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions

Just had their Nebraska Bitter

the other day, and I'd have to say it was pretty good - it's not the best bitter I've ever had, but it was definitely good enough to have more than one.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions

I should rephrase that.

Everything else that is a McMenamin regular beer is fine. Some of their seasonal beers are very good.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions

Ugh.

By "fine" I meant "is terrible".

These goddamn long days at work are killing me.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions

I think it was me

that go Corco onto Redhook ESB.

It was during a LL softball event that I went to a grocery store to pick up some beer for him. Corco initially just wanted some cheap beer and I said "no, you're gonna drink like a man."

Well, until you start drinking beer from the proper glass, you're still a college fratboy in my books.

Good job Coroco - I have corrupted you - at least your wallet.

I've been converted - any deal for Adam Jones is no deal! Find another trade bait!

by wwbaker3 on Jan 30, 2008 12:30 PM PST reply actions

You got me into the ESB

I applaud this

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 30, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions

Congrats!

About damn time :)

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

by thejew4u on Jan 30, 2008 12:38 PM PST reply actions

Jaeger is pretty much the only tasty hard alcohol

by Robert on Jan 30, 2008 12:38 PM PST reply actions

Incorrect.

While Jaeger is indeed tasty, there's also Hendrick's Gin, Isle of Jura whisky, and Herradura tequila among others.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 30, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions

and Jaegerbombs

are the best drop 'n chug beverage ever if you don't like sleep.

Jaeger is amazing- no doubt about it

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 30, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions

I've always enjoyed the flavor of

good bourbon and whiskey. I even like the flavor of Jim Beam, which isn't a high quality product.

by Jed MC on Jan 30, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions

I'm into Bourbon too

You could a lot worse than Jim Beam. If you're not into shelling out the top dollar, it's a damn fine product.

by jtopps on Jan 30, 2008 2:00 PM PST up reply actions

That's usually my first choice

because it is the best one in my price range. I should say my first liquor choice because my normal first choice is Mirror Pond.

by Jed MC on Jan 30, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions

Dear Robert

Ahem.

Signed
Msrs. Gin and Tonic

by Gomez on Jan 30, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions

There are some statements that just

date a person.
TV is a good source of them:
"Yay! Sesame Street!"
"Put Matlock on!"

but alcohol is, perhaps, even better. What people say about booze is like verbal carbon dating.

Nothing says 'early 20s' like
"Jaeger is pretty much the only tasty hard alcohol"
or
"Dude! Jaeger bombs!"

It's like growth rings; it's science.

by marc w on Jan 30, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions

I turn 21 next month

I'm still but a padawan

by Robert on Jan 30, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions

Jaeger is the one liquor which will induce

instant puking.

It all goes back to a night years ago where i ended up covered in blood (cut my hand on a rock puking) puking up glitter for hours (girls threw glitter in my drink, those bitches).

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 30, 2008 11:29 PM PST up reply actions

At least they didn't put it in your hair.

That shit'll never come out. Ever.

Refuse to progress!!

by Double06 on Jan 30, 2008 11:44 PM PST up reply actions

Glitter is the herpes of craft supplies, afterall

by jtopps on Jan 31, 2008 7:39 AM PST up reply actions

I will never ever buy my kids glitter

thats like giving a teenager a fast car. Its got disaster written all over it.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 31, 2008 11:34 PM PST up reply actions

Red Hook

Isn't that great. I do love Sierra Nevada and Stone Brewery though.

by weebs on Jan 30, 2008 1:08 PM PST reply actions

Sierra Nevada is really good

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 30, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions

I had Pyramid Hefeweizen for the first time in

about a year last week and it tasted way lighter than I remember. Have they changed it recently? I seem to remember it tasting heavier, more "wheaty".

by Slozbury Stouvre on Jan 30, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions

What about

Alaskan Brewing company?

I lived in Juneau for the longest year of my life and the one highlight was the Alaskan Brewing company was there.

I've always enjoyed the amber and IPA somewhat and REALLY enjoy their winter ale. The rest i can live without.

Deadguy is still the best

by Safeco Hobo on Jan 30, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions

Alaskan

The Smoked Porter is really good, and this year they Bottled their Barleywine which is excellent.

by thepull on Jan 30, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions

Alaskan Amber is very solid.

And you're right, their winter seasonal this year was quite good.

I'll have to try their porter and IPA.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 30, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions

Alaskan Winter

is my favorite "regular" winter ale. My favorite hands-down right now goes to Delirium Noel, but since one bottle of that is about 150% the cost of a 6-pack of Alaskan, I put it in a different category.

by Matthew on Jan 30, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions