Fun With Numbers, Hitting Edition
God bless you, PITCHf/x tool by Josh Kalk. It doesn't include every pitch thrown in 2007, but it includes a representative sample, so away we go.
Percentage of fastballs seen:
- Burke, 68.4%
- Ballgame, 65.4%
- Vidro, 65.0%
- Ibanez, 64.6%
- Ichiro, 64.0%
- Guillen, 63.9%
- Sexson, 62.6%
- Betancourt, 62.2%
- Lopez, 60.3%
- Johjima, 56.5%
- Beltre, 55.9%
- Broussard, 55.7%
- Ichiro, .387
- Burke, .375
- Ballgame, .366
- Beltre, .361
- Vidro, .347
- Ibanez, .346
- Guillen, .337
- Betancourt, .305
- Broussard, .295
- Johjima, .282
- Sexson, .276
- Lopez, .262
- Sexson, .301
- Beltre, .287
- Burke, .250
- Guillen, .215
- Ibanez, .202
- Broussard, .192
- Betancourt, .168
- Johjima, .127
- Lopez, .094
- Vidro, .091
- Ichiro, .073
- Ballgame, .028
- Guillen, 13.8%
- Sexson, 12.9%
- Broussard, 12.6%
- Beltre, 11.8%
- Ibanez, 10.3%
- Ballgame, 10.2%
- Burke, 8.3%
- Betancourt, 6.0%
- Lopez, 5.4%
- Johjima, 5.0%
- Ichiro, 4.7%
- Vidro, 4.4%
BA on offspeed pitches put in play:
- Guillen, .414
- Burke, .412
- Broussard, .407
- Ichiro, .362
- Vidro, .361
- Johjima, .348
- Ibanez, .343
- Lopez, .341
- Beltre, .340
- Betancourt, .336
- Ballgame, .333
- Sexson, .286
- Guillen, .289
- Sexson, .286
- Beltre, .242
- Broussard, .204
- Johjima, .178
- Ibanez, .168
- Betancourt, .114
- Lopez, .104
- Vidro, .098
- Ichiro, .096
- Ballgame, .067
- Burke, .000
- Sexson, 32.8%
- Broussard, 23.3%
- Guillen, 23.2%
- Beltre, 23.0%
- Ballgame, 20.3%
- Johjima, 19.5%
- Lopez, 18.2%
- Betancourt, 15.8%
- Ibanez, 15.0%
- Burke, 12.8%
- Vidro, 11.5%
- Ichiro, 10.5%
- Beltre, 70.5%
- Ballgame, 69.1%
- Betancourt, 68.9%
- Johjima, 68.6%
- Lopez, 68.2%
- Broussard, 66.1%
- Burke, 64.5%
- Guillen, 63.3%
- Ibanez, 62.4%
- Ichiro, 61.8%
- Vidro, 60.9%
- Sexson, 59.1%
- Burke, 71.1%
- Lopez, 68.7%
- Ichiro, 67.2%
- Beltre, 65.1%
- Betancourt, 65.1%
- Johjima, 63.4%
- Broussard, 63.3%
- Ballgame, 63.1%
- Guillen, 62.7%
- Vidro, 62.0%
- Ibanez, 60.6%
- Sexson, 58.3%
-Ben Broussard has curveball nightmares, and pitchers know it
-Jose Vidro makes contact on everything
-I don't know how many lives Raul Ibanez has, but he's got to have a bunch, considering he dies every time a lefty throws him a slider
-If you were a lefty in 2007, and you were facing Jose Guillen, you'd have been better off shooting yourself
-King Awesome swings really hard
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Hmmmm.
BA on fastballs put in play (includes homers):
3. Ballgame, .366
Until I saw this:
Isolated power on fastballs put in play:
12. Ballgame, .028
by pdb on Jan 24, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another fun Willie fact:
100%.
Pitchers were so sure that Willie wouldn't be able to hurt them that they didn't care if he saw their fastballs coming. They threw them anyway.
by Jeff on Jan 24, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were exaggerating
But you weren't. Wow.
by Llewdor on Jan 24, 2008 4:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Awww!
I was really hoping to see the numbers for off-speed, low and away for King Awesome.
They would certainly be awesome.
Okay, so the numbers aren't that easy to get out of the tool, but here's the picture-- its pretty funny (against right-handed for full breaking awesomeness):
by batura on Jan 24, 2008 4:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The slider picture is worse
I can't even count how many low-away sliders went for swings and misses.
by Jeff on Jan 24, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So here is a question
The only way I see him being a decent hitter next year is if he can sustain a high BA because I don't see his SLG increasing. The BABIP he had last year (.342) was higher than I thought he'd have. This could all just be luck. Maybe, just maybe it might be sustainable though. Once again, maybe...just maybe moving to DH and sacrificing all your power in an attempt to consistantly hit singles has allowed him to increase his BABIP.
I see two options for him next year. His BABIP regresses back to around .310 maybe which is much more realistic based on his past experience or he really has improved somehow and his past BABIP is sustainable. I'm guessing his power isn't coming back no matter what but it also can't go down much more which is good i guess.
(Using last year's numbers and varying BABIP also...numbers are approximate)
W/ BABIP of .280
.251/.328/.331
W/ BABIP of .310
.278/.352/.358
W/ BABIP of .360
.323/.392/.403
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 24, 2008 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
.342 was his highest BABIP since 2000
by Jeff on Jan 24, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So if he hits
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 24, 2008 5:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I'd be happy with that line
by Jeff on Jan 24, 2008 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he falls apart fast and quick
by JI on Jan 24, 2008 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sexson is the more attractive man.
by JI on Jan 24, 2008 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
diff between BABIP and BA
I think it is reasonable to assume that he was increasingly unhappy with his previous org, and that likely showed up in his numbers. I think ANY change of scenary would've created a Vidro bounce.
As to his BABIP - the .337 is certainly above standard expectation. But, let's take a look at the trend line for the difference between Vidro's BA and his BABIP.
Starting in '99 - going to present.
15, 9, 11, 15, 8, 6, 8, 19, 23
2007 marked a highwater mark not only for BABIP, but also, the single largest skew between BA and BABIP in his career. The career look says that only one thing has changed for Vidro, really - and that's his power. In Montreal, during his peak days, he managed a 51-2B + 24-HR season, and another 43/19 season, with his final full season netting 36/15. In 2007, he netted 26/6 with the Ms.
Simply put, he's not hitting the ball quite as hard. But, his K and BB numbers remain pretty solid, (2007 was only his 2nd season ever with a signifant edge in BB to Ks).
My own belief is that Vidro has (to a degree), become an Ichiro disciple. When he was at his peak, he was walking less and whiffing more. So, I would read into the stats that he's altered his "approach", which costs him power, but likely buffs his BABIP average slightly.
I think .315-.320 BABIP is the reasonable projection. But I would also expect some regression in his BA/BABIP difference, probably in the 14-18 range, meaning a .300 average is doable.
.300/.367/.393 would be my projection.
The arena I think there is room for potential gain is in power. In his final season in Washington, his 2B/HR numbers were nearly identical to his 2007 Seattle numbers (but in 80 fewer at bats). I'm thinking he's still got the potential to hit low-30 doubles and 10-HRs.
I wouldn't peg him to get 50 XBHs, but breaking 40 is definitely feasible, and if this happens, his slugging likely breaks .400 again.
While I take second half split data with a grain of salt, Vidro hit 16 doubles in the second half of 2007, and his isolated power jumped from 63 to 101. While I have no illusions that the 160 ISO will return, I'm thinking he can still post 100+ isolated power numbers - even in Safeco.
by Firemane on Jan 25, 2008 7:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
BABIP and BA
The thing that really makes me suspect Vidro's high BABIP is his speed. Ichiro is fast and many of his hits come from beating out groundballs for infield singles. Vidro is just too slow to maintain that high BABIP. He's old and fat.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2008 8:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing nobody has really brought up
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 26, 2008 4:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I did as well
by Matthew on Jan 26, 2008 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently I'm an extremely poor listener
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 26, 2008 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can try shouting
by Matthew on Jan 26, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We've been careful with saying such things
by Jeff on Jan 26, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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