Apparently This Isn't Over Yet...

by Doug Taylor on Jan 23, 2008 10:55 AM PST

It's from one of the two Granma/Pravdas the Mariners have (their site and KOMO), but it's still interesting.

http://www.komoradio.com/marinersradio/shannon/14022687.html

If we're the only ones in the race, could we possibly actually maybe for once swing a decent, non-crippling, non-Adam Jones or Carlos Triunfel involving deal for a TOR pitcher?

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FWIW

The last part about Lopez doing well is encouraging.

by Gomez on Jan 23, 2008 11:26 AM PST reply actions

Not worth much...

Remember -- in 2006, he was an All Star. Now, if he keeps it up after June, then it'll be worth something...

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions

"He (McLaren) also talked of wanting to push it on the base paths. He wants to see Ichiro steal more. He doesn't think that 80 stolen bases for him is unreasonable "Heck, Ichi can get 40 running backwards" he said with a laugh. He also wants the team go for more first to third. He wants them to look more like Anaheim on the base paths."

Doesn't this sound like a couple years ago and the beginning of last year? When Hargrove wanted to "be aggressive" and we ended running out of an inning or two a game? That was annoying..

by seattlesundevil on Jan 23, 2008 11:38 AM PST reply actions

McLaren said that during the winter meetings.

Right after he said something about Sexson Giving his all and that being enough.

Some people think that this is his first managing job. Little did you know, that he was the Manager of the Olympic Hills Elementary School T-ball league for 20 years before getting called up to the show.

Babies hate me.

by CapSea on Jan 23, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions

I hate the offseason

it should last for one week and then get back to playing baseball. This is stupid. We've been discussing Bedard for six weeks because there's nothing else going on.

by Matthew on Jan 23, 2008 12:25 PM PST reply actions

They need a rest

Plus it's cold out.

Now, if they switched to indoor wiffleball after the World Series, then we're talking....

by Gomez on Jan 23, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions

LL Event XII? I think there is potential there.

Babies hate me.

by CapSea on Jan 23, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions

wiffleball does kick ass. love the idea.

by Matthew on Jan 23, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions

I am so unbelievably down for this

you can even play in the cold... since the ball won't sting your hands or crack your bat.

Plus you only need about 6-8 people for two teams since you can't hit it very far.

Prepare to face my wicked offspeed stuff.

by johnbai on Jan 23, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions

For my athletic abilities

whiffleball>>>>baseball

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 23, 2008 10:14 PM PST up reply actions

Don't short change whiffleball

Playing fast pitch, it's much harder to make contact in whiffleball than softball.

by johnbai on Jan 25, 2008 12:45 AM PST up reply actions

Eh, I've had a lot more success with it

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 25, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions

Uh ohs

Methinks this needs to happen for real.

by Gomez on Jan 23, 2008 10:40 PM PST up reply actions

Where's Bretticus

to get the fire going?

by johnbai on Jan 25, 2008 12:45 AM PST up reply actions

I'd pay an insane amount of money

to attend one of those games

Washington Highways

by Corco on Jan 23, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions

Throwing wiffle high cheese

can totally screw up your shoulder. Make sure you warm up first.

Seriously.

by KC @ Lookout Landing on Jan 23, 2008 10:57 PM PST reply actions

n/s

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/01/lots_of_mariners_news.html

That is all.

Babies hate me.

by CapSea on Jan 24, 2008 2:54 PM PST reply actions

So Charlton's going to teach Felix

how to groove a fastball? Really? He think's THAT'S the problem?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 24, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions

He's going to ask Felix to throw his fastball more

He's not sure why Felix stopped throwing it as often.

I'll pause here so you can wipe to vomit off your lips.

Babies hate me.

by CapSea on Jan 24, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions

Same basic thing

As Felix proved last year. Throwing more fastballs = Not So Much King Felix.

This is, slightly tangentially, why I hate nostalgia. If Norm Charlton says it, most Seattle baseball fans will think it's completely true, because he's The Sheriff. Nobody will question it. And everybody should.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 24, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions

I'm still sticking by the fact that

if he wants to break out he needs his fastball. He could be a good pitcher (ERA+ ~ 130 maybe) by avoiding using his fastball but if he can learn to throw it well then watch out Pedro, your replacement in the record books has arrived.

If you throw that type of heat you need to use it. The problem has never been the fact that he throws way too many in my opinion. The major problem is that his fastball just isn't good enough. Don't get me wrong, most guys would die to throw that type of pitch but he really needs to improve his location. If he never can keep his fastball down and away from the middle of the plate, he will never win a Cy Young. I can struggle through a few years of seeing guys crank a straight fastball now and then if it means he learns how to throw it well.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 24, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions

He definitely needs his fastball

but he needs to recognize that his fastball is not his forte. His fastball should be his out pitch, he should be relying on his breaking/off speed stuff.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 24, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions

I know what you are saying

but I still think he needs to be throwing his fastball most the time. As stupid as it sounds, his offspeed stuff relies on hitters fearing his fastball at all times. Even Jamie Moyer can't get away with throwing his change/curve all the time. A change is basically batting practice if you know its coming.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 24, 2008 4:20 PM PST up reply actions

Huh

I wonder what the rest of The Outsiders were doing while McLaren gave his press conference.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 24, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions

Stay gold Ponyboy...

stay gold.

by Matthew on Jan 24, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions

Winner

by G_ on Jan 24, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions

What do Kevin Nash and Scott Hall

have to do with this?

by Gomez on Jan 24, 2008 4:43 PM PST up reply actions

cliche fest '08

lots of talk about pitching inside. God I hate baseball fluff.

by Matthew on Jan 24, 2008 4:20 PM PST up reply actions

Forget the high-fastball idiocy

Looks like Baker thinks Bavasi's getting desparate:

Baker:
First, Bavasi still expects to get a deal done for a top-of-the-rotation starting pitcher. He never mentions names, but it's clear he was talking about Erik Bedard. It's also clear that Bavasi feels this team is ready to challenge for a playoff spot and is ready to give up Adam Jones and plenty of other names to get a deal done.

It's always the guy who doesn't know when to walk away from the craps table:
(Baker quoting Bavasi)
"We feel we have to make a move -- one more move."

by westfried on Jan 24, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions