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salary vs. performance

This graph visualizes the most and least efficient spending in the MLB using a handy graph.

http://benfry.com/salaryper/

Take some solace in Chicago. Yikes!

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that is pretty cool
the White Sox one is the best.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 6, 2007 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmmm.
Slide the lever over to June 6th and then slide it back to today.

All I can say is -- F'in' Yankees!  

Yes. Shrubberies are my trade. I am a shrubber. My name is Rogerthe Shrubber. I arrange, design, and sell shrubberies.

by PositivePaul on Sep 6, 2007 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh look at that
DBacks and Indians performing over their payroll.

by Gomez on Sep 6, 2007 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup
2 teams that use their farms alot and stay away from most of the FA grenades. Go figure.
"You guys should be in every major city. This is some heavy shit. This is, like, Lone Ranger heavy, man."

by AZSEAfan on Sep 6, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of our money
Goes to our worst players (sans Ichiro) - so if that graph was based on some sort of algorithm, we'd probably be a much bolder red.
God. Dammit.

by CapSea on Sep 6, 2007 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

And Beltre....
can we just accept that he's been a pretty good player now for a year and a half?

Not $15m good, but really good anyways.

by PLU Tim on Sep 6, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do
I really like him.  Again, not 15m him, but I do want him to stay on our team.

Still, he would still fall under the "Vastly underperforming" his salary category, even if no one has much of a problem with that.

God. Dammit.

by CapSea on Sep 6, 2007 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Entire...
Economic Capstone paper was on this very subject.

Almost every free agent is paid far more than their production would dictate. That's why it's so important to have young players who over-perform relative to their salary.

by PLU Tim on Sep 6, 2007 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is awesome
Not that free agents are overpaid, but that you did your paper on this subject.

by Gomez on Sep 6, 2007 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
Beltre has become the awesome player we were hoping to get.

by Gomez on Sep 6, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is Beltre's line right now anyway?
"Send lawyers, guns and money. The s**t has hit the fan"

by Thingray on Sep 6, 2007 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

.278/ .326 /.490
Road line = .286/.321/.545

Gee, what a shock, a RHB at Safeco gets totally HOSED by his home park, and people think he's overpaid!

by eponymous coward on Sep 6, 2007 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I Said
I like him, a lot, and want to keep him on the team.   But I still think he underperforms what we paid him to do, whether it be 11.5 or 15.  If that's common among all players paid 11.5-15, then so be it - that's a problem with baseball, then.  

Although 11.5 I like much more - so assuming that's correct, as well as the common practice of overpaying above average players, I'll take back my statement for now.

God. Dammit.

by CapSea on Sep 6, 2007 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not above average.
He's a legitimately good ballplayer whose offensive stats have been screwed over by his home parks.

by eponymous coward on Sep 6, 2007 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I said
I take back my statement for now.
God. Dammit.

by CapSea on Sep 6, 2007 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like beltre
But he got the contract he did because of his 2004 which was a monster.  I think because of that monster year people were expecting him to be more of a 30 homer 100 rbi type of guy.  But if you look at his stats from 99 to 03 and his stats with the mariners have been around and for the most part better then his 99 to 03 years.

His contract was one of the bigger ones signed that offseason, the year before vlad signed a 5 year 70 mil contract and beltres was 5 year 64 mil so he got damn near vlad money. While he may be a overpaid a bit its not that bad in comparision to others like mike hampton, jd drew, and so on.

That being said im glad beltres on the team, his defense is great and his offense has been solid and consistent with the numbers from previous seasons minus the one huge year.  

Only it turned out drug dealers and pimps appreciate art.

by wadswerth on Sep 7, 2007 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and if King Awesome...
... had the same home SLG as his road SLG, he'd be 4th in the AL in slugging.

And to boot:

AB's CAREER home SLG (Dodger Stadium and Safeco): .423

AB's career road SLG: .493

Basically, if AB was playing his games in Arlington, he'd probably be on his second or third MVP award by now.

by eponymous coward on Sep 6, 2007 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I THINK NOT
If Paul played in Arlington he would be Lord of the fucking universe, alright?
Willie is ours, and you can't have him

by spittle8 on Sep 6, 2007 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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