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Tiny by Jeff on in Regular News Comment 983 comments

First Pitch: 4:05pm PDT

                   

Ichiro CF Sizemore CF Beltre 3B Cabrera SS Ibanez DH Hafner DH Guillen RF Martinez C Broussard 1B Garko 1B Johjima C Michaels RF Reed LF Blake 3B Lopez 2B Francisco LF Ballgame SS Rivas 2B ---------- ----------

Feierabend (1-5, 7.33)      Carmona (18-8, 3.03)

With the home team acting as the nominal visitors, I expect the majority of the crowd to consist of those who showed up to boo the Mariners on Griffey Night. On the plus side, if for only a day, at least Seattle can finally claim to have a winning baseball team with a competent front office. They followed us here, mom. Can we keep them?

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So here's a question,
If we COULD keep the Indians, but keep the M's as well, who would you keep from each team?
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 2:55 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm assuming you're not talking about starters,
because I'd guess you'd keep Felix...

But you'd take everyone there, over everyone here? Ichiro? Adam Jones? Beltre?

"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was exaggerating
but the only Mariners I'd keep as Ichiro, Beltre, Jones, Felix, and some of the bullpen.

by Jeff on Sep 26, 2007 3:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd add Yuni,
But that's just homerism, because he's one of my favorites.
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did they bring their stadium mustard?
It's much better than the boring yellow stuff.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:00 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, no.
This is the best we can do.

Hi, everyone.

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about?
Martinez C
Garko 1B
Cabrera 2B
Yuni SS
Beltre 3B
Sizemore LF
Ichiro CF
Jones RF
Hafner DH

Hernandez
Sabathia
Carmona
Westbrook
Batista

our BP + the 2 Rafael's

by Matthew on Sep 26, 2007 3:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds good to me!
Are you really sold on Cabrera at 2nd? I thought the prevailing wisdom was that he was playing over his head...
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really?
I'm not disagreeing, I just thought you were still pretty high on Lopez for the future.
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not.
Given what's out there, I'd prefer to give him one last shot in 2008, but I don't think Seattle's the place for him.

by Jeff on Sep 26, 2007 3:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Change of scenery needed?
Or you just don't think he'll develop into what we all hoped?
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Safeco's a terrible stadium for him.
If he ever turns into a decent ballplayer, chances are good it'll be somewhere else, because the Mariners are nearly out of patience.

by Jeff on Sep 26, 2007 3:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So am I, but not in a
"lets throw him away" kind of way.
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here's an idea
Maybe Broussard can play second.  He already hits like a second baseman, so you're halfway there.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TJ Surgery
Probably won't play until April or May

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

slow going so far
But $3 million or so cheaper.

Don't forget Shawn Nottingham.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nottingham is amazingly forgettable
And we've been pretty happy with Ben this year, to be honest.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re
Just great, he's on the DL.

But we're more than happy with AsCab ... Thanx again!

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah that face plant was completely hilarious.
Totally worth Cabrera right guys! Right....right?
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in his defense
Eduardo Perez is a very handsome man.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But
his analysis is not all that good.

Except for when he concurred that the Tribe got the better of his trade ;)

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it looks like
Rosario will turn out ok for Jason Davis ;)

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no
I thought it was Felix/Morrow package.
LET WLAD BAT!!!!

by MFAN on Sep 26, 2007 3:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was somebody else's
Pipe dream, not mine. But the way Bavasi trades, I would not have been shocked.

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way
Welcome to all of you new members from Let's Go Tribe, who've been planning to raid LL for this "home game" for a few weeks now. This should be 100% hilarious.

by Jeff on Sep 26, 2007 3:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone's going to behave
Just looking to have some fun with the makeup game.

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

btw
I'm not used to having to type something in the subject line, so bear with me. Any other weird ground rules I should be aware of?

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Refer to Jeff as 'Gil Meche'
If Will Thompson posts, respond with 'John Olerud sucks'.

I think that's about it.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know about GTE (game thread emotion), right?
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go over the rules
  1.  John Olerud sucks
  2.  Clutchiness is in the eye of the beholder
  3.  Veteran grit makes for a better team (NOTE: This may only be a John McLaren rule)
  4.  If you like beer, you're a good person
That should be enough to get you started.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not entirely true
If you like Bud Light, I will come to your defense, but prepare to be hazed by many beer snobs.
Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 26, 2007 3:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coors Light. Ride the Love Train.
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there's nothing snobbish
about wanting my beer to have a taste.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, that is weird
Those are basically the same ground rules we use, except it's Peralta who sucks.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent.
is this where we start to sing "We Are The World"?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds familiar
Veteran grit makes for a better team (NOTE: This may only be a John McLaren rule)

Absolutely. Otherwise, there'd be no postgame pieing.

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do I have to type a subject?
Hey there, Jeff.  Thanks for the welcome mat.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a cheap way
of weeding out the morons.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kinda dingy in here
Is there someplace I can shower?

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:16 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(Sprays cheap beer at Jay)
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if the kids play, I'll root for the M's
if it's the same veteran lineup, I'll seriously root for Cleveland.

LET WLAD BAT!!

LET WLAD BAT!!!!

by MFAN on Sep 26, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless REED is a kid,
then I guess you're rooting for the Indians.

Seriously though. Reed? WTF?

Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 26, 2007 3:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UGHHH
seriously, Reed??

I'd rather see Sexson.

LET WLAD BAT!!!!

by MFAN on Sep 26, 2007 3:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With the Angels losing
We pretty much have teh #2 seed locked up.

Still would like that #1 thouhg for round 2.

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is gonna be a great thread, I can
already tell. And I'm gonna miss it. Damn work.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lefty / righty matchup issue maybe?
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're probably right
It drives me nuts when Mac does shit like this to pretend that he's paying attention to platoon splits, but still hits Ibanez cleanup against lefties.

Adam Jones can hit righties AND lefties.

Jeremy Reed can't hit either. This is absurd.

by Teej on Sep 26, 2007 3:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeremy Reed can only hit in Southern California
which of course means we'll trade him to LAA for spare parts and then he'll tear us up whenever we go down there.

by tworsandtwols on Sep 26, 2007 3:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only question that matters today is
who gets Red!?  Does he suddenly show up with an "I Love Sizemore" sign?  This could be a real downer.  However, if the Tribe gets Red, they also have to take that infernal bitch of a mongrel, Scrappy.  Good luck with that one.  Best record in the league?  Not on Scrappy's watch.
"If the fans don't come out to the ball park, you can't stop them." --Yogi Berra

by Mariner fan in Rockies exile on Sep 26, 2007 3:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Red is ours, and they can't have him.
But if they'll take that bastard Scrappy, I'll send along some free kibble.
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who
Is Scrappy?

by LGTPatrick on Sep 26, 2007 3:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too late
he's yours now.
Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 3:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is all you need to know
but substitute Tribe for M's, and ignore the guy who doesn't believe in dinosaurs:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3220/scrappyvsdinoyn7.gif

In short, Scrappy is the other shoe, dropping when you most expect it.

"If the fans don't come out to the ball park, you can't stop them." --Yogi Berra

by Mariner fan in Rockies exile on Sep 26, 2007 3:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. ok
You guys in the Northwest are weird.  I hope the clouds break long enough for you to get some sun this winter.
Big Chief look for, cannot find, teepee.

by phiL G Trotter on Sep 26, 2007 3:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not unless
our Assistant GM gets restless.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yet ironically enough
Cleveland's weather is why your here in the first place.

by Robert on Sep 26, 2007 3:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, a weather reference!
Coffee and Nirvana reference in 3....2....1.....
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe if Cobain drank more coffee
like the rest of seattle, he wouldn't have been depressed and shot himself

/outsiders

by Matthew on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obscure reference
Life Or Something Like It sucked.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. I remember when they did the shooting for it
there was this thing on local news about getting extras at the ballpark to be fans for the movie.

And then I never heard from the film again.

by tworsandtwols on Sep 26, 2007 3:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

#1 seed looking better
Oakland just went up 4-3 in the fourth

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:30 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hm
I'd like to figure out where all the tiebreakers stand, but maybe I should save that for a Diary.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The M's pitcher tonight is from Cleveland
no?

Rafael Betancourt destroyed our national innocence by the way. The Indians' division title is tainted.

www.royalsreview.com

by royalsreview on Sep 26, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah,
I heard about that.  Tragic, no?

I've got my Carmona shirt on.  I am ready.  Let's Go Tribe.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wait a sec
Are you here with the home team or the away team?

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FIRE WEDGE!!!
Hello Seattle.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

first time at LL
oooh, look Black Butte Porter at the ballgame!

What's with the annoying train horn?

Any chance we'll see Rick White get some action today?

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The annoying train horn
sounds when there's a train about to run you over.  It's not a sound effect, there's actually working train tracks that run right outside the park,
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know
was there for the first time last year.  great stadium, though it's no Jake.  The roof retracting back over the train tracks was my favorite feature.

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trains run by Safeco
And think it's cute to be loud when there's a ballgame going on.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dang
was hoping he'd make one guest appearance today

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That finger
was the most effective thing he threw in two months.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He
must get action everyday.  Chicks dig blonde and fat.

by LGTPatrick on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the many "home/away" conundrums
If the Indians win game one, will there be a pie attack?

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as don't put a subject in the header...
Then they won't be able to understand us. It'll be like were talking in  code.

by Robert on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey Jeff
I gotta duck out for a little while, but before I go, I wanted to mention that I've really enjoyed your "dispelling myths" posts this week.  Don't agree with everything, but it's just a whole bunch of solid thinking condensed into a few column feet of blogging.  Nice work.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Close to 100 Already
What's our record for most posts by the first pitch?
Refusing to Lose since 1995.

by LGT CU Adam on Sep 26, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really love
your signature. Totally LOL'd at that one.

Wish I could have been here live last night, looks like it was good fun.

Big thanks to LL members being so welcoming and playing along.

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 27, 2007 6:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoever noted
in another thread that it would be awesome to see the Indians hit a walkoff home run in Game 1 was dead on.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was me!
and I think it would be really funny to see how everyone would react.
LET WLAD BAT!!!!

by MFAN on Sep 26, 2007 3:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perfect way
to wrap up the home season!!!!

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lineup
dribble at SS this evening.  luis rivas gets the call at 2B

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 3:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i see him in the lineup
and yet i'm still not convinced.

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 3:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wait
until the Blue Jays acquire him.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont forget
the Orioles!!!

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Orioles
take our pitchers with unrealized potential; the Blue Jays take our weak-hitting middle infielders.  Seattle takes, well, anything we offer them, evidently.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have
the rest of the lineups? or are you holding out?

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aqui
Seattle Mariners:
I Suzuki CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .350
A Beltre 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .281
R Ibanez DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
J Guillen RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .287
B Broussard 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .270
K Johjima C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291
J Reed LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
J Lopez 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .254
W Bloomquist SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 .284

Cleveland Indians
Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO AVG
G Sizemore CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .275
A Cabrera SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 .284
T Hafner DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
V Martinez C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
R Garko 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .292
J Michaels RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
C Blake 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .267
B Francisco LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
L Rivas 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 3:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay
A Francisco sighting. I'd have liked to see Gomez in for Blake though.

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not too bad
Too much Rivas though.

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huh?
is that like a zen riddle or something?

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I smell a haiku coming...
The pirhana bites
Only the hand that puts it
In the lineup

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LGT folks hate math
*into the lineup.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 4:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But we sure love
Triangles and Circles of Trust

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 4:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know what you're talking about
Casey Blake is the third baseman of the future!

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe we can get
Beltre for Marte.  Sell Marte as clutch.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rivas
Any Rivas is too much rivas.
God truly does hate Cleveland Sports.

by GradysmanldyLGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who the hell
invited rivas to this party?

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two soft tossing meh lefties against the Indians
lineup. This should be a fantastic day.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soft-tossing meh lefties
are like kryptonite to the Tribe hitters.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 3:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes
See: Hernandez, Kazmir, Shields, Santana, Verlander, etc.  Beat 'em all.  Do you have a journeyman who has bounced between AAA and the majors all year with a fastball that tops out at 85?  Want to see him throw five perfect innings?  Start him against us.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Campillo it is!
I think he's done being suspended, anyway.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about a soft tossing righty who's fastball
tops out at 80?

But I think he's still serving his suspension for trying to kill the fly on Vlad's nose the other day...and failing.

These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Completely unrelated, but which should I get?
Bloomquist jersey or Vidro?


vs.

I'm kinda torn...

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why choose?
get 'em both.  Live a little.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm a student,
And they cost like 70 pints each...

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you spend
in USD or GBP (are you American or English - I just realized I don't really know)?  because if you spend in USD it'd be like 140 pints, and there's no jersey alive that makes that a good deal.

Bombardier tastes far better than doubleknit

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm English with a greencard
And I spend and earn in GBP, at least until next July.

I love Bombardier.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why are choosing between those two?
Are they on sale or something?
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 3:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That makes sense.
"The issues with the Sonics' profitability at KeyArena have less to do with KeyArena than with the Sonics' ability to defend the high pick and roll,"

by Thingray on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Turbo
Methinks Willie asks for a trade to get to a place where he will get more playing time, since he's in his prime
Washington Highways

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 26, 2007 3:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I vote for
BENCH over uniform number 10

by Matthew on Sep 26, 2007 3:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How confused do you think John McClaren is right
now. Do you think he'll try to bring JJ in during the btm of the 9th while the Mariners are batting?
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:42 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

best thing about seattle
the beer.  i was blown away how good a beer you could get in every bar there (and the ballpark)

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean
They serve Great Lakes Brewing Company out there?

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

about the only thing missing
GLB stands up with or above any one microbrew out there, but there's like 15 more right behind it available all over the place.

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why dont ballparks get better beer?
its ridiculous how FEW ballparks ive been to that have good beers.
God truly does hate Cleveland Sports.

by GradysmanldyLGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come down to Portland
I was born and raised in Seattle, and as far as beer goes, seattle is AAA to Portland's Major Leagues.

BTW, search the LL diaries for the "beer thread".  Or maybe I'll go find it now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

someone at LGT linked it
and i loved that thing.  it was great.

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am moving to Portland
the first of teh year. I can't wait to visit all the brewpubs!!!!  MMMM Beer

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've lived here for four years
and i haven't found a bad one yet.  The neighborhood I just moved out of had five brew pubs within 2 miles of my apartment.  My new neighborhood has 4.  And they're all good.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet
Cant wait to try them out.

Last time I weas there was over 10 years ago. I did visit a place that had over 200 beers on tap. That was one cool tour of the keg Frig. The entire basement!!

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well then
You've been told about the Belmont Station on SE Stark and 42nd?

The Muddy Rudder off SE Tacoma in Sellwood is a newer bar with a lot of locals on tap.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the Oaks Bottom Public House
Those guys make some good beer, and they always have good rotating taps as well.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't forget
tater tots.
Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 3:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can't forget the tots
My friend that took me to the Oaks Bottom the first time was almost as excited about the tots as he was about the beer.  I didn't get it.  Now I do.  Them's some good tots.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 4:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

by far
But only because McMenamins has problems with consistency.  Not all of there places make tots either.

I use to live off of McMenamins's happy hour menu during college.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 4:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

portland does have more good brewers
but really, the distro works out pretty much the same.

by Matthew on Sep 26, 2007 3:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Being a Portland Local
I prefer the porters from Washington more.  

And it's very hard to find a better Scotch Ale than Fat Bastard.
 

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 3:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

scotch ale
I just had Boundary Bay a few days ago, quite tasty

by Matthew on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will get up there one day.
But not until Everett is finished with all that damn construction on 1-5.
Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 3:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where is Rouge?
Portland?  Their shit is top notch.

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their main brewery's on the OR coast
but there's a big one in Portland as well.  They usually have about 15 Rogue beers on tap, a few guest beers, and great food.  They're probably my favorite Oregon brewery.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Newport bay Pacific Coast Highway.
about an hour 1/2 drive from Portland.

If on the coast, check out Pelican Bay Brewery in Pacific City too.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 3:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rogue is
from the west coast correct?  That stuff is amaazing.  I really enjoy the American Amber, Chocolate Stout, Hazelnut Brown Nectar, Shakespeare Stout, etc.

by LGTPatrick on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Try the Brutal Bitter
That and Dead Guy are probably my two favorite American beers.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

vmart
Good to see Victor isn't seriously hurt.

by ASP LGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:48 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So I heard
That Beltre is seriously un-clutch.  Shame.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah
The question really is whether he's really unclutch or THE LEAST CLUTCH PERSON OF ALL TIME.

I'm leaning towards the latter.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, to answer that question
we'll need some Alan Parsons playing in the background, and some numbers that don't make sense.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow
A Luis Rivas sighting?

by ASP LGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IS this game on tv?
cause there's no pre-game show.

by JI on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So does Carmona
end up 3rd in the Cy voting? or will Bedard/Haren/Wang nudge him out?

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where
are you putting lackey?

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 3:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In a nice enclosed space
So he can hotbox with the Weaver boys in peace?

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah
Him and Escobar too ....

Do you think Carmona can get 3rd?

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not sure.
CC has a pretty good chance, though.

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 3:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, CC and Beckett
will be 1/2 or 2/1

I wanna know if Carmona can beat all the other yahoos for third place.

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 3:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry, no room
Beckett/Wang/Papelbon/Pettite/Matsuzaka/Rivera/Wakefield/Clemens/Schilling/Chamberlain

by G_ on Sep 26, 2007 3:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another question
do Cleveland players get their walk-up music played when they come to bat? and do they get inspirational movie clips on the scoreboard if they are down two  going in to the ninth and have to face JJ?

by JI on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would love to see the scoreboard telling the
fans to root Cleveland on. Just for the hilarity of it all.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can he stay there?
I'm perfectly okay with him just staying in Seattle for a while...

by LGTFundamentals on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want to see some
Rally Pie clips.  Or the "I need more cowbell" thing.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 3:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what's it gonna take
to see some Andy Marte?

by ASP LGT on Sep 26, 2007 3:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the real question is
are we going to see some jesus-brontosaurus action

by LGT Animal on Sep 26, 2007 3:53 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If god was against the rally dino
This team would make a hell of a lot more sense

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm putting the over/under at today's combined
comment count of the two games at 2500.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 3:54 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Under, dammit!
Yes. Shrubberies are my trade. I am a shrubber. My name is Rogerthe Shrubber. I arrange, design, and sell shrubberies.

by PositivePaul on Sep 27, 2007 9:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would it make more sense for the LL regulars to
post at LGT... or does it make more sense to share a thread because we're sharing the stadium today?...

by JI on Sep 26, 2007 3:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

weee
Let's Go Tribe!

Lookout Landing, prepare to be boarded by the rabid fans from LGT. Oh this should be hilarious.

by LGT obobcatu on Sep 26, 2007 3:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know what I could do with right now?

I was kind of skeptical when I tried it the first time, but it's incredibly tasty.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 3:58 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh wow
wow. is anyone else impressed that Michael Young has gotten his 200th hit for the season? I remember when the Rangers were last in Cleveland and he missed the first 2 games of the series, which was fairly recently, and he was something like 70 hits away from 200. That guy doesn't get enough publicity.

by LGT obobcatu on Sep 26, 2007 4:01 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Micheal Young-102 OPS+ with bad defense
If anything, he gets too much.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 4:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you guys are probably right
Yeah you're all right. It's not like he hasn't reached his 5th straight 200+ hit season while playing a crucial defensive position. If he gets too much pub, then god knows how overrated Ichiro is.

by LGT obobcatu on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He plays shortstop
with all the mobility and grace of a diseased walrus, so the critical defensive position makes him -less- valuable than if he was a DH.

Have you seen his home/away splits? Young is entirely a product of Arlington.

by Graham on Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he sucks at his defensive position
just because he plays it, doesn't make him good at it.
LET WLAD BAT!!!!

by MFAN on Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He plays that crucial defensive position badly.
And uh, Young's career OPS+=102
Ichiro-120 and with excellent defense.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

overrated maybe
but lets not jump down his throat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byposition?pos=SS&conference=MLB&year=season_2007&qual ified=1&sort=25

he's not too shaky in the whole scheme of things.

and clevelanders aren't in the habit lately of valuing defense at SS.

by lgt emil on Sep 26, 2007 4:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah but
its an empty 200+ hits. His OPS+ is only 102. that's average.

Ichiro, another hit machine has an OPS+ of 125. Much better.

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 4:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

does EI really need to be
showing the Indians feed?

Our guys would be hilarious here.

by PShwa on Sep 26, 2007 4:01 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What are you saying?!
SUPPORT THE TROOPS! THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THE WARS!

by tworsandtwols on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude
that is one twisted statement.

How's about WFB's asshole?

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude,
you owe all of us a round of tater tots.
Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 4:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They should be
having as much fun with this as we are.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 4:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The M's starting pitcher is from Grafton, OH?
There's, like, eight prisons in Grafton.  A lovely place.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 4:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My only question is the weather forecast
Is there ANY chance of snow?

by Harry Doyle LGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course
Mathematically speaking, that is.

by Paytheline on Sep 26, 2007 4:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have to respect Cleveland
for putting the foot down and saying "no" to Major League III

by G_ on Sep 26, 2007 4:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everybody has there limit
we're just not sure what that is for most Clevelanders

by Harry Doyle LGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, you win
that was impressive.  Terrifying, but impressive.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 4:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evil APV
heh heh, I like it.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 4:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm
Which Mariner or Indian would make the best drug "informer" .... anybody on either team from Columbia?

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 4:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oak-Bos update
Tied 5-5 in the top of the 6th

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 4:05 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DH
When we sweep this Double Header it will be more icing on our regular season cake.

by ELGT5 on Sep 26, 2007 4:06 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In "Glad You Didn't Take it Personally"
Jim Bouton reports a touching scene in which Joe Pepitone craps on a cake.

Consider it an alternative ending.

by Paytheline on Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction
It was Joe's birthday cake, but Doug Rader did the deed.

All apologies.

by Paytheline on Sep 26, 2007 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

E-LGT-5?
Oh, dear.

by FiddLGTicks on Sep 26, 2007 4:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
This actually made me spit out my orange juice. Too funny.

by superLGTelia on Sep 26, 2007 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

missing?
Shouldn't there be like a microphone bulge below Angie's name tag?
Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Sep 26, 2007 4:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stickers
Where can I get a "Bavasi for GM" sticker?

by eAvPiVl on Sep 26, 2007 4:06 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad
You guys don't have to face the Cobra today.

by nickjs21 on Sep 26, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright
I decided to join this party since I was promised tossed salad and scrambled eggs.

by superLGTelia on Sep 26, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh no...
Not the shadows!

by RyanOfLGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the final season..coming this fall
I hope these kids suffer and lose.
LET WLAD BAT!!!!

by MFAN on Sep 26, 2007 4:09 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So can we polls in thread?
Best Cle-Sea trade?

A Reggie Jefferson/Feliz Fermin for Omar Vizquel
B Ben Broussard for Sin shoo Choo
C Eddie Perez for Asdrubal Cabrera
D Jason Davis for Gregario rosario

I'll go with A. I like C, but he'll need many years to catch A.

by LGT talonk on Sep 26, 2007 4:09 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rule #5
Mocking the Mariners for making bad trades is like stealing milk money from the retarded kid at school.  It's just too damn easy.  We have no defense.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 26, 2007 4:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blame our equipment manager
I think the he couldn't wash the champagne and beer out of the home uni's before the charter left

by Harry Doyle LGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so
is Hargrove managing this game for the Mariners?

by BrickLGT on Sep 26, 2007 4:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs