9/15: Open Game Thread

Iwamura 3B Ichiro CF Crawford LF Beltre 3B Pena 1B Guillen RF Upton CF Ibanez DH Young RF Johjima C Harris 2B Vidro 1B Gomes DH Betancourt SS Navarro C Jones LF Wilson SS Ballgame 2B ---------- ----------
Kazmir (12-8, 3.65)
Horacio Ramirez and Jeff Weaver over their last seven combined starts: 26.2 innings, 34 runs, 62 baserunners, 12 strikeouts
(The team has gone 1-6 in these starts despite scoring an average of five runs a game.)
Jorge Campillo, Ryan Feierabend, and RRS over the same amount of time: 19.1 innings, 7 runs, 25 baserunners, 19 strikeouts
Yeah, it's just relief, and yeah, all three of these guys have problems of their own that basically leave them as replacement-level starters in the here-and-now, but replacement level is light years ahead of what we've been getting for most of the summer. That a change still hasn't been made to this day by a team that likes to think it's a serious contender just absolutely boggles the mind. When we look back on this season and wonder why we fell short, the staggering loyalty to underachieving veterans is going to be right at the top of the list. Yeah, young players get managers fired. But bad older players lose games. Somebody, please, learn a lesson.
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Great news!
Hargrove is back to coaching a minor league team!!
Their name is (I kid you not) the Liberal BeeJay's. Apparently Hargrove is managing his team out of the back of a porno theater in San Francisco! :)
by Notor on Sep 15, 2007 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm more annoyed
McLaren is doing a great job as the team's therapist but he's not a Major League Manager. We're going to need one if we want to win in 2008.
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Red agrees that Beltre in the two hole
by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2007 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It would appear that Lopez is finished here.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 5:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It would appear to me that he's fourth
by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2007 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's consult the dictionary:
-verb (used with object)
10. to strike or hit with or as if with a bat or club.
More players need to use a club.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is dumb
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 5:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the brother thing is legitimate
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we're probably gonna sign a veteran...
by Nick S on Sep 15, 2007 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither do I
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So.....
And are we gonna see, Jose Vidro-2B in 2008? Shudder the thought.
by Goose on Sep 15, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, that'll never happen.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your 2008 starting 2B
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a gritty, low-mileage player
by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 15, 2007 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I hope Nebraska gets shellacked
by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 15, 2007 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kreuger's Keys to the Game
> Inherit'em, we score'em
> Scoreboard Watching
.....huh?
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 5:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"If he has a good changeup today"?
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
by krb on Sep 15, 2007 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jose Lopez seems to be in good spirits.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Blowers
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Niehaus is either completely losing it
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MLbtv has been extra shitty for the Cubs/Cards
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they channel the Cards playing ability
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, you have no idea...
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Lopez needs to take that energy into
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PULL HIM MAC!
by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2007 6:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
paging: Ryan Rowland-Smith
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Most obvious double-play ever?
by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2007 6:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Campillo warming up
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cash out while you're ahead, Mac.
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If for whatever reason I need my plug pulled
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
three straight LHB against Ho
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ho's out!!
by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HoRam yanked.
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so happy right now...
by SethGrandpa on Sep 15, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully that's the last time we see
by Happybelly on Sep 15, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope he hasn't blown all his money.
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In the postgame interview John McLaren will say,
by 116in01 on Sep 15, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Campillo throws a strike
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck you Ho
by mariners11 on Sep 15, 2007 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im pinning it al on mac
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The worse his ERA, the less likely he is to return
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Campillo
by krb on Sep 15, 2007 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well
by wadswerth on Sep 15, 2007 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Double-Play
Sweet!
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Before the year
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A Joel style black hole
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what's the ERA of 4 runs on 0 outs?
by SethGrandpa on Sep 15, 2007 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well ya.
by SethGrandpa on Sep 15, 2007 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw it....
by IrishMariner on Sep 15, 2007 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm, watch this or go play MLB '07
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I plan on watching the Cougar stomp Idaho.
Let's see if I can handle 3 at once...
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody else just hear a huge painful moan?
by SethGrandpa on Sep 15, 2007 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Campillo allowed all of AssHo's runs to score
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 6:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Aki Iwamura
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Adrian Beltre
WTF was that? did Ichiro break his leg on the way to 2nd or something?
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
STOP hitting and running with Adrian Beltre
I'm pretty sure Adrian is unaware that he draw a walk by taking a pitch 3-2.
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just missed with the trigger, but
There must be something more to life.
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yay choppy MLB.tv
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if that were my kid
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 6:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh
What about the first half?
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So the Mariners have heard of the disabled list?
by JI on Sep 15, 2007 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When veterans play through injuries
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they didn't notice for care for weeks
Great job, Mariners management and training.
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ICHIRO HURTS THIS TEAM BY-
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kazmir will be great
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fastball at 85...
by Susheel Ramasahayam on Sep 15, 2007 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if Baek were healthy we wolud have
by Susheel Ramasahayam on Sep 15, 2007 7:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the paying fans would understand
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought they already did
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's all right
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
technically no, he was out
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ruh-ohs
Oh, and Gomes was out.
by IrishMariner on Sep 15, 2007 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What's it like to be a D-Rays coach?
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tampa has a heck of a future
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, all right, a batter he can strike out
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers this year
The Tigers are at .400.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blew a huge chance there
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 7:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Killing time at work
by Robert on Sep 15, 2007 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good ol' regression
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New sign behind lefties.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crawford can actually steal bases
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Settle an argument
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PATHETIC HUMANS
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones' bat
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Freud would have a field day
by DCMariner on Sep 15, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the subject of homosexuality

How come they don't make stickers to designate gay & lesbian unsafe zones?
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those zones are designated...
Also, gay-safe zones end where inbreeder-safe zones start.
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blowers...
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 7:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bonds did have a big knob
by Paytheline on Sep 15, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FSN is ~2-3 mph fast
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least it's not FSN Florida
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Kazmir ever thinks about
Like, every day?
by Paytheline on Sep 15, 2007 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed that Dave is still calling the game
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey idiot
This is almost as bad as the guy who wrote "rallie fries" the other night.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave's reaction to the HR
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Feierabend
Big disappointment.
by Paytheline on Sep 15, 2007 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could be worse...could be anothe Ho
by Slica on Sep 15, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They talk about the yankees...
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair point.
by Paytheline on Sep 15, 2007 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's about time for McLaren to come out
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Completely unnessecary...
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don't understand
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if I'm Stuart Sternberg
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rizzs' agents are kidnapping children
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good job, Willie
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Willie now 5 for his last 30
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mac is showing us he can manage
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh look, good variance for Sean Green
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 8:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey look
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitching to contact
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs to change speeds?
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, season ticket holders are smart.
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great story.
"I don't know."
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What? That's his FIRST walk?
by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2007 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kazmir's control isn't that bad
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a strike.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Former Colorado Rockie
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
by krb on Sep 15, 2007 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Johjima is a pesk
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Three innings of the TB bullpen
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they gave it to the faimly that can't spell?
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 8:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Maddon is smart
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 8:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our favorite pompous assbag, Curt Schilling
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we lose this game
by PDXTai on Sep 15, 2007 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No way
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw two woman (WOMAN!) wearing Rays jerseys
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Women in baseball jerseys = meh
Women in hockey jerseys = you're coming home with me whether you like it or not
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually yes
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you sell baseball too short
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing surprising
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You take away the fact that HoRam started
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Take away all the Ho starts...
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed's walk-up = This Is Why I'm Hot
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eric O'Flaherty
by Matthew on Sep 15, 2007 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LETS GO MARINERS!
ugh...
by Faux on Sep 15, 2007 8:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought Gary Glover
by Paytheline on Sep 15, 2007 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he do that muzak song
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another ball at the eye
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Methinks those ladies' thunder thighs
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Betancourt fielded a grounder to 2nd?
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure looking forward to Horacio's next start
by Jordan of Boise on Sep 15, 2007 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good God....
by IrishMariner on Sep 15, 2007 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raul HRs
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What's up with Raul's home runs to left field?
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think
by J_G on Sep 15, 2007 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Rays blow THIS game
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One of these days
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Five straight
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY BALLS
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn, Delmon
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the diversion, but....
by IrishMariner on Sep 15, 2007 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Reyes throws strikes
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In that case
If there's one thing the Mariners love, it's a strike throwing pitcher with poor command.
by PDXTai on Sep 15, 2007 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safeco has the worst dancing fans ever.
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Having been dragged to a few
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McLaren will bench you for the rest of the year
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 9:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Blowers ever thinks to himself
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You take away HoRam's start
by ThundaPC on Sep 15, 2007 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy f'ing crap
by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2007 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
First D'Ray pitcher to 13 wins
by Jeff on Sep 15, 2007 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I remember Rolando Arrojo
by Gomez on Sep 15, 2007 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic
by Robert on Sep 15, 2007 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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