Terry Ryan steps down
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3017356
Assistant GM Bill Smith to take his place.
Kinda stunning. I wonder if this is the end of an era or whether the new Twins organization will be more or less indistinguishable from the one of the last decade.
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I'd love to have him
by Dylan on
Sep 13, 2007 11:04 AM PDT
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Doesn't matter.
The way I see it?
Pitcher's park + $$$ (I mean a lot) + Our rotation being our biggest obstacle to the postseason = Santana/Hernandez 1/2
Just don't tell him that the rotation is actually the second biggest hurdle (management).
Yes, I know, he's not worth it blah blah blah. Can't I be a stupid fan for once?
by Faux on
Sep 13, 2007 11:08 AM PDT
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You'll get a pass when I'm dead
I'm not so sure general incompetence or penny pinching are the sole reasons this team can't lure top free agent hurlers.
by Gomez on
Sep 13, 2007 11:14 AM PDT
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Well, we do already have another Venezuelan
I'm all for trading anyone outside of Felix, Ichiro!, and JJ for him. Pedro was traded for Armas, Jr. and Pavano. Randy was traded for Garcia, Guillen, and Halama. Would Johan be available for a Morrow/Wlad/Clement/Tillman type deal?
I don't really know how the guys traded for Pedro and Randy were rated as prospects at the time, but I'd think those would comparable pitchers who were traded. Sure, Pedro was a little younger, Randy a little older and I don't think Johan is quite as good as them (just by a little), but I've been hoping the M's could figure a way to pull it off during the off-season.
by Jed MC on
Sep 13, 2007 11:30 AM PDT
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Yeah, but we plucked that Venezuelan
Pedro was traded for two prospects because they were the Expos, they were fighting just to remain alive, and the Bosox had lots of leverage, since the Expos didn't want him to walk for nothing, and wanted something but couldn't afford to take on big contracts. The Twins aren't in nearly that desperate a position. In fact, the Twins probably don't want to trade Santana. Would you trade your franchise player?
This is not a good parallel example. The Twins are gonna want a LOT more than just a couple prospects or good players if we want Santana. The conversation probably STARTS at JJ, WLAD and Adam Jones. I don't even think the M's have the personnel to make a deal without crippling the 25 man.
by Gomez on
Sep 13, 2007 12:02 PM PDT
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I think Jason Churchill @ Prospect Insider said
If I were the Twins GM I would never trade Santana, just like I hope the M's never trade Felix. I want star players to stay with their original teams. As a M's fan since the 80's, I've always hated watching them trade off their best players for crap - not that the M's had anyone special in the mid-80's. If the M's can't get Sanatana I hope he stays in the Twin Cities.
I thought the Sox offered the best package of players out of the teams that could have afforded Pedro, which may have been just them and NYY. That period of time I didn't follow baseball as much as I do now - college, girls, beer, etc. I was just trying to think of recent trades involving HOF level pitchers in their prime (or near prime).
by Jed MC on
Sep 13, 2007 12:28 PM PDT
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Bob Engle
by Matthew on
Sep 13, 2007 12:46 PM PDT
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Never leave us Bob
by Robert on
Sep 13, 2007 12:55 PM PDT
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What about....
Jose Lopez
Wladimir Balentin
Rob Johnson
and either Kam Mickolio or Austin Bibens-Dirkx
by tkballer22 on
Sep 13, 2007 1:00 PM PDT
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Ichiro hurts the team...
by Robert on
Sep 13, 2007 1:05 PM PDT
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Hey Front Office
DO WHATEVER IT TAKES
by tkballer22 on
Sep 13, 2007 11:17 AM PDT
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Hell..
Id love to see Ryan AND Santana come to Seattle
by tkballer22 on
Sep 13, 2007 11:42 AM PDT
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Antonetti or Ryan?
by Thingray on
Sep 13, 2007 3:34 PM PDT
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According to:
He mentions it on his blog.
by MfaninAlaska on
Sep 13, 2007 3:47 PM PDT
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Read that...
by PositivePaul on
Sep 13, 2007 4:15 PM PDT
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