At Least We Never Saw Francisco Rodriguez
I hate that guy.
For a few hours now I've been trying to think of what to say, how to make sense of what we've seen over the past three games. This is what I came up with:
We just got blasted.
There's really no other way around it. We got absolutely throttled by a better baseball team. No, they're not this much better. They're not sweep-on-the-road-and-outscore-22-to-8 better. Jered Weaver isn't better than Felix Hernandez, Garrett Anderson isn't a better hitter than Raul Ibanez, Jeff Mathis isn't better than Kenji Johjima, and Dustin Mosely isn't better than the top of our bullpen. They were better for three games, but given what Kansas City did in LA not too long ago, we should always be careful not to arrive at too many specific conclusions based on such a limited sample.
Overall, though, the Angels are a demonstrably better team than the Mariners. That point wasn't made this week, but it was certainly driven home. They're better on the mound, they're better in the field, and they're just as good at the plate. People will talk about alleged differences in team attitude and confidence, but even if those statements are true and the differences exist, they don't mean nearly as much as the fact that Los Angeles just has more talent than we do. That's never pleasant to hear, but in a way it is a little comforting to know that we haven't been relegated to runner-up status by virtue of bad managing alone. We're in second place because we're the second-best team in the division.
The hype, the excitement, the potential - in a red blur, it all disappeared. While the crowds were never that enthusiastic to begin with, I am a little concerned about the next time Safeco hosts a big series, because a lot of people are going to remember this and wait to be impressed before they allow themselves to get all the way back into this team. This was as deflating and demoralizing as any series can be, and I can already hear the snarky remarks about Lollablueza Returns. It sucks, but can you blame them? When's the last time they really - really - had something to cheer for?
People are going to respond to this series differently. There are two main camps: one that feels like the season is over, and one that points out how we're still tied for the Wild Card with a decisive series in the Bronx coming up next week. There will be clashes and a lot of name-calling as one group tries to claim that they're the better fans, while the other group wonders out loud why the optimists can't see the writing on the wall.
At their hearts, neither one is wrong. This isn't a debate about the standings; everybody knows that the Mariners are still in the hunt. No, this is a matter of emotion and psychology. Some people have it in them to remain hopeful in the darkest of circumstances, while others have watched this take place enough times before to see a pattern. To argue against somebody's opposing viewpoint is to think you can change who they are as a person, which is really kind of a silly and selfish thing to attempt. Some people are optimists. Some people are pessimists. Because of their nature they're going to interpret the Mariners' current situation in different ways, and it just isn't worth all the arguments we're going to see.
Fortunately, the neat thing about baseball is that we don't have to wait very long to see how this all plays out. Win tomorrow and a lot of people are back on the wagon. Extend the slump and we'll have more jumping off. The arguments change every day, and never are they more intense than when the team's riding a streak or a slump. There's just something about extreme performances that always manages to get the emotions running high.
Right now, nobody knows. Everyone has their suspicions, but just when this team has looked dead, it's sprung back to life. When the Mariners lost six in a row in April, they took seven of their next eight. When they dropped six more in June, they won ten of their next eleven. And the seven-game skid in July was followed by possibly the best run of the season. You never like to be put in a position where you're waiting for the good because the bad's already happened, but here we are, and it's all we have. Maybe this is just the nature of the beast. Maybe this team actually has it in them to make another run. Maybe they'll find a way to bounce back from this letdown and get the last laugh. Maybe this is all part of their plan to give us a true storybook ending.
And if they don't, and if it's not, at least we'll always have this. No matter what happens now or down the road, that's ours forever.
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Yeah.
'02 helped a lot though. Now it's just another old battle scar, instead of being another festering wound that won't heal. It'll happen for you all someday too, I'm sure of it. You'll look back on this series as just one in a series of bitter experiences that made the ultimate victory that much better. Or you'll just wonder in helpless rage why the hell McLaren was left in charge of the team. It'll be one of the two. >_>
by TheOptimist on Aug 29, 2007 9:26 PM PDT 0 recs
Kudos Jeff
by mariners124m on Aug 29, 2007 9:39 PM PDT 0 recs
I wish we had seen KRod
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 29, 2007 9:52 PM PDT 0 recs
I think it'd be funny
by Gomez on
Aug 29, 2007 10:49 PM PDT
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I don't think we're done, BUT...
by SethGrandpa on Aug 29, 2007 10:43 PM PDT 0 recs
If they go like 4-20 in September than maybe
by Goose on
Aug 29, 2007 10:46 PM PDT
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They're not getting fired
by Gomez on
Aug 29, 2007 11:05 PM PDT
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I don't think McLaren will be back
by ThundaPC on
Aug 29, 2007 10:57 PM PDT
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What I wouldn't give for Larry Dierker...
by esoteric on
Aug 29, 2007 11:34 PM PDT
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Ya I don't think it will happen, but it should...
by SethGrandpa on
Aug 29, 2007 11:25 PM PDT
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I am probably going
by hcoguy on Aug 30, 2007 12:08 AM PDT 0 recs
Wild Card odds?
by phil333 on Aug 30, 2007 1:01 AM PDT 0 recs
I think there's about a 20% chance of the playoffs
by SethGrandpa on
Aug 30, 2007 1:06 AM PDT
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I'd really like
by Ed Coffin on
Aug 30, 2007 8:57 AM PDT
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I think we have a fair shot
But we'll know a lot more next Sunday night--the 9th, that is...
by LBDave on
Aug 30, 2007 9:08 AM PDT
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After the playoffs
I give us a 35% change to beat Boston - a lot can happen in a short series, but that's besides the point.
If we make the playoffs then Joe Torre gets canned by the Yanks, and we can pick him up for next year.
Plausible?
by cmartinj on Aug 30, 2007 6:10 AM PDT 0 recs
No, not really
by LBDave on
Aug 30, 2007 9:10 AM PDT
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A couple of things seem clear after these games
- Sexson has to go into a platoon. This move is maybe way too late to salvage the playoffs, but that dead wood has to sit more. Even better would be to get rid of him somehow. (Can he be put on waivers again? Let Detroit have him for gosh sakes! They also take on the ridiculous salary, right? Pulling Sexson back was a moronic move and may have cost us the playoffs. It will come down to only a couple games effectively)
- Sit down Lopez's butt until he gets his head straightened out, his fat behind rested, or whatever. His moronic mental mistakes are a huge sabotage to the morale and momentum of the team.
3. I suspect that the umpires for this series were in on the take. They tried to cover their asses with some blatent "make-up calls" after it didn't really matter with the outlook of the games clear, but something extremely stinky about them.
Wish someone could investigate this.
by Tom C on Aug 30, 2007 6:27 AM PDT 0 recs
Maybe my comment
Seems natural to suspect that something's up (rather than incompetency).
by Tom C on
Aug 30, 2007 6:36 AM PDT
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I tried getting an "N-B-A" chant going
by Katal LM on
Aug 30, 2007 6:59 AM PDT
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LOL! Good one katal
by Tom C on
Aug 30, 2007 12:54 PM PDT
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Luck, chickens, roosts
Things took a startling turn when the M's began to win with their pecking chickens attack in late innings combined with the bullpen excellence (even without Soriano). And somehow that caused us more aggravation than not, because then the failures of the manager and players became more important. And it also interfered with the development of some of our prospects, specifically AJ, whose game has now been turned into radioactive sludge by the decision to sit him. That's irritating, especially if you're looking down the road a bit farther for an M's team that can really compete against the best teams.
So, none of this is predictive. Maybe the M's, lucky chickens, will continue their death by a thousand pecks assault on American League pitching, including the Yankees, and scramble into the WC slot. But if not, I can't help thinking that we got more than our fair share!
by toonprivate on Aug 30, 2007 8:26 AM PDT 0 recs
thanks...
I agree that there have been far more wins than anticipated...and all in all, a fun ride.
by gblady on Aug 30, 2007 9:24 AM PDT 0 recs
I'm a cynic
The cynical mindset understands that the M's just received a crushing blow to their division title hopes, and a strong blow to their wildcard hopes... and that while they certainly can recover and take one or the other and that you can't count them out, the chances of doing so are greatly diminished.
by Gomez on Aug 30, 2007 10:02 AM PDT 0 recs
At least Rev Halofan is still good for a laugh
But let me get this straight - the team with more talent and better statistics beats the team that has won more games than anyone ever expected, and THAT's supposed to prove the existence of intangibles???
by Nadingo on Aug 30, 2007 10:11 AM PDT 0 recs
As Douglas Adams pointed out
Luckily Rev Halofan has only proved that he is an idiot.
by johnbai on
Aug 30, 2007 10:57 AM PDT
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Thanks Jeff
I love the M's but I am not getting my hopes up for Oct. baseball and I'll just be happy we are not as bad as we were the last couple of years.
by InSpokane on Aug 30, 2007 10:11 AM PDT 0 recs
I'm a realist
I see people on here that went to some of these past 3 games and talk about how they left early because they were totally disgusted with the teams play and I just sit there shaking my head because I'm in a situation where in the past 16 years I have only been able to attend one Mariners game in person, and those that can go on a whim are lucky in my eyes.
by MfaninAlaska on Aug 30, 2007 10:19 AM PDT 0 recs
Oh hi
I don't shit on Yankee fans for leaving games early, even though seeing a game in Yankee Stadium is a unique experience I've never had. I left because what I was watched ceased to be entertaining, I had to be up early the next morning and didn't feel watching the home team lose 6-0 was worth losing hours of sleep, but I appreciate you taking a sanctimonious holier than thou apporach to judging my actions.
While your general point is true, using it to judgmentally flame somebody for their actions in a vacuum pretty much negates whatever positivity your point was supposed to bring to the table.
by Gomez on
Aug 30, 2007 10:26 AM PDT
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I wasn't trying
I shake my head because I'm envious not because I'm better.
Apologies if that last statement came across as any type of attack.
by MfaninAlaska on
Aug 30, 2007 10:32 AM PDT
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Okay, cool
by Gomez on
Aug 30, 2007 10:36 AM PDT
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so...
by big on
Aug 30, 2007 11:26 AM PDT
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Larry said it best
by Jeff on
Aug 30, 2007 11:40 AM PDT
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Or, as my former co-blogger expressed...
Why do we relate to the game of Major League baseball as if it were somehow truly real and essential in our lives? It's the "material alienation which reigns in the conditions of [our] existence" (241). Our existence, on this earth, is probably unfulfilling, and likely somewhat depressing. With all the negative and stressful aspects of life, our minds seek a respite from reality. For many, MLB serves as that island of serenity in a sea of chaos. We alienate ourselves from the unpredictable, unpleasant true conditions of the world in a sanctuary of familiar and comforting entities: balls, strikes, outs, hits, errors, and runs. While we are watching an MLB game, we are not worrying about where our next meal is going to come from, the homeless person sleeping on the streetcorner, the breaking down of our traditional freedoms, or the like; All we are concerned with is who is up to bat and how they generally fare against this specific pitcher.MLB is pure escapism (based on age-old dramatic themes- love, hate, heroism, shame and redemption) though we relate to the game as if it were reality. We don't cry about genocides in Africa, we cry when our team loses a close game. We aren't upset when an innocent person is jailed without cause or chance to post bail, we get mad when an umpire calls a clear strike a ball, or vice versa. Althusser writes, "what is represented in ideology is therefore not the system of the real relations which govern the existence of individuals, but the imaginary relation of those individuals to the real relations in which they live"
--from "Is Baseball an Ideology?"
by PositivePaul on
Aug 30, 2007 11:56 AM PDT
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I drove up from Eugene for the whole series
Let's hope we see a dramatic turn around in the coming days.
by mary on Aug 30, 2007 10:32 AM PDT 0 recs
OhmyGodohmyGodohmyGod....
I think there is a CHICK in the comment thread!
Act cool guys, act cool... Dude! Quit staring!
by Thingray on
Aug 30, 2007 10:58 AM PDT
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Ironic how?
by Thingray on
Aug 30, 2007 11:53 AM PDT
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I think the bullpen did well in the series
by Matthew on
Aug 30, 2007 11:11 AM PDT
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First Clemens and now Wang?
by ThundaPC on Aug 30, 2007 11:32 AM PDT 0 recs
HEY EVERYBODY
by BrettJMiller on Aug 30, 2007 11:57 AM PDT 0 recs
It worked.
by PositivePaul on
Aug 30, 2007 12:07 PM PDT
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That's what she said.
by Thingray on
Aug 30, 2007 12:11 PM PDT
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Thanks a lot
It's really painful to root for those bozos (though I like Manny) but I hate the Yanks more, even without the wild cad thing.
by Tom C on
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