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A replacement for McLaren

Who do you think would be a good manager to replace mcsucken?  

I was thinking Joe Girardi the 2006 NL manager of the year.  Girardi went 78-84 in 06 with a marlins team that only had like 15mil in payroll.  

So besides girardi who else would be a good canidate to take this job from mclaren?  

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I don't think it matters
who ever manages is going to do things to piss fans off and make them question the manager's mental capacity.....

Lou did it frequently
Melvin did it frequently
Hargrove did it frequently
McLaren is doing it frequently

by MfaninAlaska on Aug 13, 2007 10:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not if they are competitent.
Melvin's done an acceptable job in Arizona, and not many are complaining about that. There were some problems early in the season about him leaving pitchers in too long(most notably Livan Hernandez), but he seems to have learned from that mistake and he quit doing it.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 13, 2007 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i nominate
a college of coaches made up of prominent members of the M's blogosphere.

just kidding

by seattlebruin on Aug 13, 2007 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want Girardi
around Felix, unless you enjoy seeing our young pitchers get trotted out after hour long rain delays
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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 13, 2007 10:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus is McLaren
really doing anything different than Hargrove. We only started praising Grovers bullpen management when he didn't have anyone shitty to throw out there.

At least McLaren dropped Richie and Raul (for a while) down in the lineup and moved up Beltre. He is probably getting Jones in the lineup more than Mike would of.  

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 13, 2007 10:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The one thing
i do like about mclaren is he does seem to hit an run more then hargrove, but really mclaren has a bullpen full of good pitchers an he picks the vetren reject from baltimore... from baltimore should be enough to make him think... no i dont think this is the best move
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 13, 2007 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty Baker
or Joe Morgan. They seem to know what they're doing. Plus they're employed by the best sports network in the universe.

by Mariner John on Aug 13, 2007 10:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Kenji
Because apparently catchers make great managers

by Slozbury Stouvre on Aug 13, 2007 10:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro
and I'm 100% serious.  Player Manager.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 13, 2007 11:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the odds
he DOESN'T replace the Mariner Moose with his pet dog?

by Slozbury Stouvre on Aug 13, 2007 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a million bucks
I'd buy whatever bridge it would take to get Dan Rohn to cross back into Seattle...
Dear John: You're a really nice guy, but I don't even want to be friends... New MGR please? KTHXBYE...

by PositivePaul on Aug 13, 2007 11:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember that movie
Little Big League? I would take that kid as manager over anyone "established" managerial candidate. Hell, what's Harold Reynolds up to these days? As long as he doesn't inappropiately grope either of the DP twins, he would be a fine choice.

by hcoguy on Aug 14, 2007 12:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If he was such a good manager
How come the Mariners beat him?  Randy and Junior baby!!
http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Aug 14, 2007 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wrote this on the game thread but I'll repost it
etowncoug gave me a ride home from the game, and he and I got to discussing this.  He believes McLaren's getting a bad rap, and honestly, I've gotta agree.

Though McLaren has made his share of dubious, even infuriating decisions (hell, he made several today, including the nonsensical call to the bullpen for Parrish; we didn't understand that either)... he gets a lot of flak given how badly we wanted Hargrove gone and given that, for all his observation over the years, he is still very new to running his own team at the big league level and managing all those big money personalities.

This is not to say I believe he deserves a perma-waiver for all his bad calls, and I understand everyone's frustration because I get frustrated with his managing as well, but it's a bit rash to already ask for the head of a guy who's only been doing this for a month and change and is still trying to figure it all out.  Yeah, he's been in dugouts forever, but always as a subordinate to another manager that made all these decisions he never had to make on his own until now.  It's tough, and he has to balance putting a competitive team on the field with not losing the trust of his team.  And plus, there aren't many managers that we as diehard fans would consider 'good'.  A lot of managers make seemingly nonsensical decisions and non-decisions day after day, and many of them run winning teams.  Many of them win despite themselves.

In the end, it's not as simple as it looks.  There's a lot of variables besides the ones we're focused on and it takes some getting used to and feeling things out.  He doesn't quite know what direction he wants to take this ship, what step to take next, and the timing for this learning process couldn't be worse given we're in the middle of a playoff race, after he suddenly got the job following Grover's sudden resignation.

He just needs more time.  This is a bad time for him to 'need more time', but still.

by Gomez on Aug 14, 2007 12:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's kind of a lame excuse IMO.
I'm not buying the "But he's new at this". He's sat right and there and watched alot of different managers manage for how many years? And how many times has he discussed things with his manager? I bet a whole hell of alot. The only difference is now he has the title to go along with it.

Also the whole "Well you guys would bitch about anybody out there" is lame as well. We don't need the manager to be good. We just need them to not be a factor. It's not that hard. A majority of the managers in baseball don't make a difference either way. I mean, like I said above, Bob Melvin is one of those. Bob Freaking Melvin. If he can do it, McClaren sure in the hell should be able to.

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by Goose on Aug 14, 2007 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But how many managers
have made everyday choices that hurt their chances of winning, only for those choices to either not affect them or ironically help them?

Such a point infers that no other manager makes boneheaded moves, and I just don't see that.  For example, the opposing manager in today's game, Ron Gardenhire, is notorious for stubbornly counterproductive personnel decisions.  Would YOU play Nick Punto everyday or stick with Rondell White at DH even though he's probably not OPSing his weight?

by Gomez on Aug 14, 2007 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for reposting
I did not see it in the game thread.  I will admit there are things i feel he did better then hargrove (like calling for hit and run more often) and i did write this diary not to long after the "parrish" incident.  But after cooling down from the game emotion and reading your reply i gots to say your right, i agree he does need more time.  He hasnt had very long to learn from his mistakes yet and he should be given a chance.  Afterall we are winning more often then not with the choices he is making.
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 14, 2007 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'll cut him some slack
last night was really the first night i had any major problems with him.
Yu Bet!

by Patrick517 on Aug 14, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably not a popular pick
but i always like bobby valentine when he was with the mets.
He loves Japanese baseball.
Yu Bet!

by Patrick517 on Aug 14, 2007 1:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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