58-47
Not to worry, the team really gave it their all tonight. They battled against a good pitcher, and the only difference was that the Angels got a few hits when they needed to, and the Mariners didn't. It was a classic showdown between two AL giants, and Los Angeles just happened to be the ones who pulled it out in the end. The team knows what it didn't do right today, and they'll surely come out recharged and refocused for a critical rubber game tomorrow night.
Seriously, is there a worse justification for keeping problem bats in the lineup than "they're giving it their all"? What does McLaren even mean when he says "it means something to their teammates"? I've been in dugouts before. I've seen good players try hard and succeed, and I've seen bad players try hard and fail. They don't get treated the same. Players appreciate when someone's putting forth the effort instead of totally dogging it, but they appreciate winning even more, and as much as they may respect a teammate's determination, they still know that he's struggling and have little faith that he'll come through when they need him. Being supportive isn't the same thing as being loyal and optimistic.
And what message does this send to someone like Ben Broussard, who's hitting circles around most of our lineup? If McLaren really values people who "give it their all," then there are only two explanations: that he thinks Richie is trying harder than Broussard, or that he's wedded to assigned roles and refuses to see Broussard as anything more than a bench player. The former is insulting and the latter is stupid.
How does it make sense to stick with Richie and Raul because they're "giving it their all," anyway? Let's consider the two possible options, here:
(1) Richie and Raul are giving it their all. By definition, this means that they're putting forth as much effort as they can, and can't possibly elevate their levels of determination. By working as hard as their bodies allow, they've combined for a sub-.700 OPS. And because they're already maxing out their effort, there's no real hope of them getting better.
(2) They're not actually giving it their all, which means that either McLaren's a lousy evaluator, or he's lying to us about his reasons for keeping them in the lineup. Not that there's ever any reason to keep playing someone whose heart isn't completely into it. "Giving it your all" should be an expectation, not an achievement.
Assuming that #2 is incorrect, we're left with #1 - Raul and Richie are playing as hard as they can. That's all well and good; they should be playing as hard as they can. Playing baseball is their job, and nobody on the roster can afford to take it lightly. It just boggles my mind that "they're giving it their all" can be considered a compliment and a point of support for keeping a player or two in the everyday lineup. No manager at the office ever says "you can't fire Steve, he's a phenomenal typer." Typing is a requirement. People don't deserve to be praised for doing what they're supposed to do. People deserve praise for going above and beyond, something that clearly doesn't apply to the two Mariners in question.
Raul Ibanez and Richie Sexson are probably giving it their all every day they come to the ballpark. And their all isn't good enough. It's time to reward the people who've actually earned the jobs, rather than the people who've tried hard to hold on to them. At some point in any winning organization, performance has to trump everything else. The Mariners need to learn this lesson before it's too late, and that moment is coming quicker than you think.
Biggest Contribution: Jose Vidro, +7.4%
Biggest Suckfest: Jeff Weaver, -32.4%
Most Important At Bat: Beltre DP, -7.4%
Most Important Pitch: HGH homer #1, -18.4%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -32.8%
Total Contribution by Position Players: -17.2%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
Reggie Willits is short and obnoxious. Adrian Beltre hasn't hit a slider in four years. The Angels hit 66% as many home runs tonight as they had in the entire month of July coming into the game. And I have to start resting up and packing for my trip to Seattle, so I can't put much into the website tonight or tomorrow.
Felix and Jered Weaver tomorrow night at 7:05pm in a game that determines whether or not the Mariners need to start focusing on the Wild Card instead of the division. Since breaking into the league, Weaver has a 177-point platoon split, and has allowed most of his homers to left-handed hitters. If Broussard isn't in the starting lineup, I'm going to build an effigy of John McLaren, sit it in my passenger seat, put a pillowcase over its head, and drive off a cliff.
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At least one Mariners fan I spoke to today
I hate how true that is.
Get a headstart now
On a second note, if/when AJ comes up, has Vidro done enough to keep DH and nix the old plan of moving Ibanez to DH and Vidro to bench? Is there such a thing as a platoon of 3 or 4, including Richie and Broussard? Am I asking too many questions?
Problem is,
I've given up trying to figure this team out. Go M's? whoever you are.
Fuck that game
On a sidenote, my dad and I bumped into Bavasi's assistant (secretary?) in the elevator as she was going to her car. We chatted for about 1 minute about the trade deadline and I definitely let it slip out that I was happy with what happened only because I was terrified that we'd do something horrible.
And to end it, fuck you Mariners. You all suck... except Ichiro, the bullpen, and yeah I don't think I'm leaving anybody out. You all suck. The angels make a little league team look like sluggers and you allowed them to dominate you. I hope you all get raped by an elephant.
I was at the game as well,
It was everything I had not say "you wore a red shirt because they don't make jerseys in size HIPPO!"
Anyway, we bailed out of our seats when it was 0-6, and wandered the stadium for most of the game, ate some cold, nasty BBQ from the stand by the bullpens, then left early to head back north towards home.
Most dissapointing game and stadium experience I've ever had. Bad game, bad food, obnoxious fat Angels fans... It sucked.
I had one of those too
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 1, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sec 122 row 35
Thank God I didn't pay for them.
Guillen is going to murder Scocia's family
Reporter:There were a couple of pitches you had to get away from.
Guillen:Yeah
Reporter:What was going through your mind, what do you think that was jus...
Guillen:What do you think went through my mind?
Reporter:I'm I'm I'm not
Guillen:Huh?
Reporter:That's why I'm asking, I have no idea.
Guillen(sounds like he
s challenging the guy):Hmm?
Reporter(very nervous now, maybe even a little scared):Thats why I'm asking.
Reporter #2:He's trying to say you didn't look very happy about it.
Guillen:Well I just......hope for the best that he's not trying. First pitch it was just kinda....I just didn't like the second one.I'm not afraid of anyone, yeah know. I just hope for the best that he don't say or he don't try...yeah know.He knows me better. That's all I have to say.
Reporter #3:You don't think it was personal?
Guillen:Huh?
Reporter #3:You don't think it was personal?
Guillen:I hope not.
Reporter #3:You don't think it was personal between you and him though do you? You and Mike.
Guillen:(long pause).....I told you I just hope for the best he was not trying.(Pause)....but if I find out he was trying, well...you know(long pause)...........that's a big problem. I'm not afraid of any pitcher, if he's throwing 100MPH, whatever.
I was at the game
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 1, 2007 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this for real?
If thats for real... well than this was the best loss of the year. Awesome.
Why is Baker acting like we have to win the West?
well with the yankees surging
because
And for us
I really think that we have to win the division.
Sycophantic reporting
Seattle is getting good outfield play, and manager John McLaren doesn't want to risk losing team chemistry now, so Adam Jones stays in the Minors.
In the meantime, Ibanez, Guillen and Ichiro have held their own in the outfield. Combined, they have a.294 batting average. Ibanez is second on the team with 24 two-out RBIs, Ichiro is third (22) and Guillen is fifth (16).
We're giving Raul and Jose credit for Ichiro's .347 batting average these days? Player evaluation by two-out RBIs?
Ibanez and Guillen are second and third with eight and seven game-winning RBIs, respectively. To cap it all off, Ichiro's .347 average is second best in the American League.
Raul and Jose are worth 15 wins! In other news, Ichiro's constant hitting is kind of a bonus.
It's because the knowledgeable fans
Yup
You gotta love these guys!
Or not.
Mostly a bookkeeping thing...
I love when I hear a song in the morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1bWezr3sHU
Heh. This too:
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 1, 2007 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I would if not for the prohibitive costs of
Not really diary worthy,
I'm glad you took it.
by Jeff Sullivan on Aug 1, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh.
She stopped giving me funny looks when I did the "Ben BrousSAard" (clap clap clapclapclap) chants. She didn't quite join in, but Joey took care of that for her.
He also did the same for "Adam Jo-ones"...
haha
I thought
by MfaninAlaska on Aug 1, 2007 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
how about an ops of .698
That I can understand
His obp is .101 points higher then his BA (Great thing)
His extra base hit % is almost 50%. For every 2 hits one of them is for an extra base hit. That is a great thing too... its just he sucks at hitting singles.
by MfaninAlaska on Aug 1, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If you have a BA ~ .200
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 1, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't say
by MfaninAlaska on Aug 1, 2007 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Well thats why he's bad
I almost feel sometimes that BA is becoming an underrated stat in some of the blog community.
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 1, 2007 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
by PositivePaul on Aug 1, 2007 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I just realized this is the second time this month
Why arn't Wlad and AJones called up?
But shouldn't the lineup for the M's look something like this right about now?
CF Suzuki
LF Jones
3B Beltre
RF Guillen
1B Broussard
DH Balentien
C1 Johjima
2B Lopez
SS Betancourt
Looking there, I am almost tempted to either put Vidro at 2B (ick!) or call up Nick Green (.309/.348/.604/.952 @ AAA in 150 AB)
For the reasons stated above.
No, it doesn't make much sense.
by Jeff Sullivan on Aug 1, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi there.
We're all rooting for our team too, but the frustrations come when the front office refuses to make the obvious moves simply because it might upset some intangible effect on the team. In this situation, it's Adam Jones' call up and "Team Chemistry".
Then you've got players with annoyingly hulky contracts that the front office feels they have to see through. This is where Richie Sexson and Raul Ibanez come in. In Raul's case he's "the face of the franchise (don't ask)" and they must stick with him. In Sexson's case he's "always been hot in the second half".
Sure, other teams and front offices have issues, but I can't think of a single combination that tries to stick with the same old stuff the entire season as much as the Mariners do. Right now, we're the only team in the majors who is running out the same position players we broke into opening day with. Several years ago we had the same starting rotation for a season and a half.
Shocker of all shocks, we recently had a seven game losing streak until --gasp-- McLaren made significant changes to the lineup, aka "Moving Raul Ibanez out of the 3-hole".
If we fall short of making the playoffs because our team once again scuffles in August, remember, the front office powers this team with loyalty, camraderie, and chemistry. All of those things are more important than winning.
Supposing Adam Jones gets called up tomorrow he will most certainly be batting 9th because he's the "unproven, new kid on the block". Of course, hitting in front of Ichiro isn't all bad.

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