Geoff Baker is dead to me
Go read his new blog entry. I have to go to work and am too disgusted to attempt to critique it. Some highlights: He specifically denounces those who gave Bavasi a "standing ovation" (hmm where did that come from?), He goes on and on about how perfect Gagne is and points to all the "holes" in the pen. The funny one is mentioning Lowe's surgery but neglecting Gagne's. He wants us to count all the blown leads after a starter leaves the game and blame it on standing pat at the deadline. That should be easy, they can probably get counted on the left hand of a disfigured fireworks stand salesman. I hate going to work pissed off.
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I thought about writing a point-by-point
Not unlike Buttercup, Geoff Baker keeps building me up with pretty decent posts on his blog, only to let me down with nonsense like today's entry.
by Katal LM on Aug 1, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
by Zack on Aug 1, 2007 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
by Robert on Aug 1, 2007 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Was there a blog response?
I can't get to the Leone For Third archives, either.
SportSpot didn't exist back then, either... There were the AOL Message Boards, but those don't count.
Does anyone remember the online reaction to the '03 deadline?
by Katal LM on Aug 1, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and it can be summed up in one word
by Omerta on Aug 1, 2007 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing a shrug
by G_ on Aug 1, 2007 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still like Baker for other reasons
This organization is filled with relievers that throw strikes and can get outs. If Lowe does get hurt a guy like Huber can fill in, Huber had no problems has the set-up man in September last season. I would also mention Mikolio(sp??) but he's never thrown an inning in the majors, so it's probably unfair to count on him as a top set-up man.
by MFAN on Aug 1, 2007 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Geoff Baker will come around. He's not there yet.
He makes some interesting points but ends up falling back on specific situations where going out to acquire an "impact player" actually worked. However, he does not go over why the "impact player" worked for the team. Plus, his example is Shannon Stewart from the Twins who is a hitter, not a relief pitcher.
I think most of us agree that it's pretty silly to think that acquiring a relief pitcher will put us over the top. Despite all the "problems" Baker mentioned about the bullpen (one college graduate, one coming off an injury, on who is a lefty specialist, etc) it's not what is costing us games.
Having Octavio Dotel or Eric Gagne in the bullpen doesn't change the fact that you still have Raul Ibanez patrolling Left Field and clogging up the lineup along side Richie Sexson. There is no bigger potential upgrade for the team than calling up Adam Jones. That's the move that needs to be made.
by ThundaPC on Aug 1, 2007 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it again
Give the anger some time to subside and let's see what he says as this passes and the season progresses.
by Gomez on Aug 1, 2007 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously you don't understand the internets
Remember, individuality is fine, as long as we all do it together.
by pdb on Aug 1, 2007 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because you're special... just like everyone else
by Gomez on Aug 1, 2007 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely off topic
In addition to the books you'd expect to find at a radical lesbian bookstore, they also had a bunch of bumperstickers behind the counter for sale, and one of their most popular sellers was "Subvert the Dominant Paradigm".
I always thought that a bumper sticker that required the viewer to put in that much thought (there's too many variables there - subvert how? Whose paradigm is dominant?) probably wasn't an effective bumpersticker.
by pdb on Aug 1, 2007 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by Gomez on Aug 1, 2007 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baker
by thepull on Aug 1, 2007 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no problem with Baker....
by Rizo on Aug 1, 2007 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He has his slip-ups...
by JY on Aug 1, 2007 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll miss him in 2 years
by G_ on Aug 1, 2007 1:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I read this
by Graham on Aug 1, 2007 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
meh.
Still, it's nice to hear from the other side. I admit that he's helped me better understand the FO reasoning for pursuing another arm for the pen, even if I don't agree with it. And, to be honest, can you imagine how annoying LL and USSM must be to those that don't agree with the analysis? It's not like we're particularly courteous to those that don't agree with us.
by sammy on Aug 1, 2007 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But....we're right ;)
by kentroyals5 on Aug 1, 2007 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Particularly Curteous?
:)
by MfaninAlaska on Aug 1, 2007 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alaska's a big place,
Actually, it's pretty good to hear an opposing argument, as long as it's logical and reasonable.
by Graham on Aug 1, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geofff might be off-base on this one
by JI on Aug 1, 2007 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could be worse
by pdb on Aug 1, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gagne was
by buckwheat on Aug 1, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree we shouldn't praise Bavasi for anything
Many GM's know how to fleece teams, some don't have a clue. The fact that we happen to have on that doesn't really have a clue isn't reason to celebrate anything.
by TheMarinator on Aug 1, 2007 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
EXTREMELY Low Expectations...
Look. I think everyone's disappointed that the M's didn't change the team by making a trade. There are lots of guys that could help the M's make a serious run at the playoffs. However, a lot of those people were not available in the trade market, let alone for any of the prospects we may have been willing to surrender.
It was a pretty crappy trade market anyway, and I, for one, am certainly very happy Bavasi didn't make a move just because he felt like he had to.
That, to me, is definitely praiseworthy, and actually somewhat NEWS worthy. Bavasi NOT being an idiot is definitely something to celebrate!
As weird as that sounds...
by PositivePaul on Aug 1, 2007 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's right - in a sense
So I'm happy the M's didn't trade a prospect who could be used in the offseason to actually improve the team for the long run, and more importantly, for next year when it might matter.
by billT on Aug 1, 2007 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's dead to me too...
by SethGrandpa on Aug 1, 2007 4:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a silly, silly diary entry.
Seriously, Baker is a smart guy who gives M's fans TONS of blog content (he's waaay ahead of most beat writers in that regard except Joe Posnanski in KC and Barry Svrluga in Washington), responds to input and questions, and generally has his head screwed on straight. This sort of snitty, foot-stomping excommunication is just wrongheaded.
Yes, I think Baker is wrong about the M's bullpen issues. But given the general quality of coverage in the print MSM it's remarkably ungrateful to not embrace him.
by esoteric on Aug 1, 2007 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't read this before posting
by Dylan on Aug 1, 2007 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore
by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle Fans
by Dylan on Aug 1, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i believ that hyperbole is an old, old wooden ship
by thenatural on Aug 2, 2007 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, my comment was not
by Dylan on Aug 2, 2007 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
most, everyone, he's the devil
You take the game thread stuff too seriously.
by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad...
I disagree with him, but it actually raises my respect for him because at least he comes to his bad conclusions in a good way, which bodes well for his overall decision making process.
by jullberg on Aug 1, 2007 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs















