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Team Chemistry and Morale - A Different Approach

For weeks the Mariners and their apologists have refused to make any number of moves to benefit the club, most obviously promoting Adam Jones is the most obvious out of the bunch.

Even the most hard-core apologists do not really argue that Jones would be a better left fielder then Ibanez even if his bat somehow does not translate to the majors. The reason for not making a move is that it would somehow disrupt "team chemistry" if one of our under-performing veterans should lose playing time or - heaven forbid - we might have to DFA a popular player like Jason Ellison.

While the roster paralysis is a problem, there is a greater danger here to team chemistry and morale through inaction than through making a move. Baseball, like all professional sports, is a game of results. Heck, that is what we all like about it. It is one of the closest things we have to a meritocracy in this world. Jackie Robinson might be a black man in a racist country, but since that man could run and hit he eventually made it in the league.

If Jones came up tomorrow or Broussard took time at first base, we would expect Ibanez and Sexson to be upset. But they are grown men who have to know their numbers just are not there right now. They would be upset, but I would imagine they would mostly be upset at themselves for not getting the job done.  

The greatest danger to the organization is that the Mariner management right now is sending the message to the whole organization that performance doesn't matter. They are giving powerful disincentives for a player to perform. That is a much greater danger than upsetting a veteran that is not performing. This is about more than personalities and individual performance. This is about the entire culture of the Mariners organization. Loyalty means something, but performance eventually has to mean more.

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At this level,
Winning is all that matters.  This isn't T-ball where everyone gets to have a warm fuzzy about playing.  Show the front office you deserve a roster spot or be shown the door.  
I killed a 12 pack just to watch it die...

by Dollar97 on Jul 30, 2007 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with that is
you could end up with a good player getting dumped because of a poor half season performance.  It really is a double edged sword, but the reason to retain or remove someone should be from a talent perspective, not to maintain chemistry.  If they want club-house chemistry, well, just ask Jeff Weaver I guess.

by chrisisasavage on Jul 30, 2007 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evidently Jeff Nelson
is against Adam Jones coming up as well.... he said that throwing an unproven rookie into the mix is a bad idea, but that if they went after a proven major league hitter that would be a whole different story.

And we all know what Jeff Nelson thinks of the M's front office, or at least did think of them.....

so its not just the suits that think that way, its players as well that believe replacing vets with vets is the only way to go.

by MfaninAlaska on Jul 30, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

which is one more reason
Oakland continues to pull micracles out of their hats and find talent in what's considered "low" places.  Would anyone trust athletes to do any other kind of detailed analysis?  I'd hope not.  Why should baseball be different.

by chrisisasavage on Jul 30, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well athletes
were once rookies too, so they must have some "understanding" of what it means to get called up after performing in the minors.

I think what Nelson is trying to say, but probably didn't do it adequately enough, is something along the lines of call your rookies up to break in at the beginning of the year when you have time to evaluate them, or when there is an injury that causes someone to go on the DL.

But in the middle of the season in the midst of the playoff, look for talent that you "know" will help you right now, instead of talent that has the "potential" to help you right now.

that's not saying I agree.

by MfaninAlaska on Jul 30, 2007 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's definitely the argument.
Players are distrusting of youth. I know for a fact that the guys on the Mariners couldn't understand some of the calls to bench Raul or Vidro for Adam Jones, because those two veterans "just know how to hit, man."

It's up to the GM to decide whether or not the players are right. It's absolutely something to consider, but in this case, I don't think they are.

by Jeff on Jul 30, 2007 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not about knowing...
We all know that these guys have a mental edge. What else is experience....

The problem these guys are facing is that their bodies are slowing down and for whatever reason, they simply can't match what they used to do. Heck, it was amazing that Ibanez had the season he did last year at this age. It was probably even worthwhile to give him this long to see if he could do it again. But it is also foolish to keep hoping until they fall out of contention.

by brokejumper on Jul 30, 2007 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knowing how to hit
and still being able to do it are two different things.  So, a veteran who "knows how to hit" but can't should be left in the lineup at all costs....because someday these guys will be "old guys" and they want a job then too.  What BS.
I killed a 12 pack just to watch it die...

by Dollar97 on Jul 30, 2007 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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