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Josh Towers.

JOSH TOWERS

JOSH

TOWERS

Biggest Contribution: Jeff Weaver, +30.7%
Biggest Suckfest: Raul Ibanez, -20.3%
Most Important At Bat: Broussard foul out, -8.2%
Most Important Pitch: Hill single, -8.9%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +30.7%
Total Contribution by Position Players: -80.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%

(What is this chart?)

I don't like having to set my alarm on weekends. It's not that I'm exhausted and hung over from going out all the time - I live a remarkably sedentary life - it's that, between this place and my day job, I barely get any sleep during the week, so I like to use my Saturdays and Sundays to make up for what I've missed. There aren't very many things for which I'll willingly get out of bed before 10:30 or 11.

Last night, I thought the Mariners were one of them. Last night, I was wrong.

I wish I could think of an interesting way to recap today's game, but I can't, because so little happened. If you were able to watch this game live, it probably stands as one of the worst combined offensive performances you've ever seen; overall, there was a total of seven hits and nine baserunners against two starting pitchers who entered with a sum ERA over twelve. Two of the hits were bloopers that found a hole, and two more didn't leave the infield. Forget the inconvenience of my having to wake up early - these two teams had an extra three hours and still didn't get out of bed and arrive at the ballpark until about fifteen minutes ago. Just be glad this wasn't a doubleheader.

Against the habitual strike-throwing Josh Towers, the Mariners took the right approach but forgot about execution. The result was that, through 5.2 innings, all they had to show for their efforts was an infield single by Jose Vidro up the middle. They were able to mount their biggest threat of the day after an Ichiro walk and Vidro single into right, but Vernon Wells was able to run down an Ibanez line drive into straightaway center for the third out of the sixth, and that was as close as the team would come to plating a run. They'd put another two on in the seventh, but were promptly stymied on three pitches when Ben Broussard decided to find out what the whole popping-up hoopla is all about. When it's the young infielders who're leading by example rather than the other way around, you know you're in trouble.

Ibanez and Guillen later struck out looking in the ninth.

The only difference between the Mariners and Blue Jays, of course, was that the Blue Jays were able to find turf with consecutive bloopers in the second that led to a run when Aaron Hill followed with a single into left. Ibanez was up with the ball as Wells rounded third, but he didn't make a very strong throw home, and so Toronto went ahead with the only run they'd need all day. The rest of the time they looked equal parts bad and stupid, as Weaver spun his second complete game of the season (and forget about the fact that he only had eight innings; he also only threw 88 pitches).

About the only entertaining thing all game long was the microphone the Rogers Centre decided to put close enough to home plate to pick up words that would've gotten people red carded out of Safeco. Aaron Hill cursed a blue streak after swinging through a slider in the fifth, but perhaps the highlight came when Tim Timmons took a foul ball off the body and his string of flagrantly audible blasphemous epithets was heard twice in ten seconds as the TV feed decided to show a replay of the pitch. How does a stadium that features John Gibbons 81 times a year get away with a microphone that picks up so much impromptu discourse?

For his part, Jeff Weaver did look fine, if a little hang-happy. He was effective and efficient in taking care of a talented albeit predominantly right-handed lineup, and the bullpen got to sit and watch for the fifth time this season (believe it or not, the Mariners are tied for second in team complete games). While I don't buy the relevance of his early-season FIP since I don't think he was throwing Major League stuff, ever since coming off the DL Weaver's put up a 2.55 K/BB and 3.38 FIP in 50.2 innings. His real level of ability is worse than that as he's gotten lucky on fly balls (if you notice, the man has not allowed very many home runs), but every time Weaver throws a game like this, he looks more and more like a serviceable #5, meaning our rotation problems may be down to a single slot. Upgrading from Ho to someone around league-average might be all this group needs. I'm never going to trust Jeff Weaver, but his job as a #4/5 is to keep us in the game, not blow people away, so in that respect I don't consider it a problem.

This being a good opportunity to be pessimistic and frustrated, the following is a brief list of grievances:

  • Raul Ibanez: 261/.309/.401 on the season, with awful defense. If you choose to exclude that one unbelievable game in Cleveland, it's .252/.303/.366, with awful defense. Every player's going to look worse when you remove his best game of the season, but where, say, Beltre's still been a league-average contributor if you remove his 5-5 (two doubles, two homers), Ibanez is one game removed from being the worst regular hitter on the team. When I wrote that post a while back about how his bat has gotten slow, I should've stuck with it instead of taking it all back after the Cleveland game, because it looks to be true - Raul Ibanez looks finished. It's possible that he's nursing a whole bunch of little injuries that're taking their toll on his swing, but that's a part of getting old, and all it means is that he still needs to leave the everyday lineup for a while to rest up. Either Ibanez is done as a productive hitter or he's an extended break away from being healthy enough to resume helping out a little bit. No matter which it is, though, the solution is to call up Adam Jones right the fuck now, before it's too late. Jose Vidro, consider yourself blessed - thanks to Mr. Mariner, you are no longer the biggest most glaring target on the roster.
  • Between Sexson, Lopez, Betancourt, Vidro, and Ibanez, our everyday lineup has five bats slugging .401 or below. Richie's second-half magic is nowhere to be found - 2008'll be fun! - and neither Guillen nor Beltre are consistent enough to really help Ichiro in carrying this group on their backs. Turns out we need a bat, too. Jones or Wlad could be that guy, but we'll never know until they get a chance, now will we? And I still don't think we're making the playoffs unless either Richie wakes the hell up or McLaren figures out that Ben Broussard might be able to help out a little bit.
  • At a combined .686 OPS, it might be time to consider that our young, talented middle infield has been way overhyped. Forget comparisons to some of the better players in the league; this twosome is beginning to look an awful lot like Minnesota's old Guzman/Rivas tag-team of horror. Granted, Lopez is a little better than Luis Rivas ever was, but at some point you have to wonder when the ability's going to show up in full force. Superstars make progress before hitting their strides. Lopez hasn't, at least not significantly so. There are encouraging signs, but nothing that indicates future stardom. Betancourt, meanwhile, just looks lost half the time. How a guy like that decides to become a flyball hitter is beyond me, but it isn't doing him any favors. He is not helping this team.

    (I'd still take our guys over Texas'.)

  • Fun bullpen news - McLaren likes Chris Reitsma as JJ's eighth inning setup man. Reitsma doesn't miss any bats and has allowed 30 hits in 21.2 innings. Sean Green does and hasn't. Meanwhile, Mark Lowe is apparently just days away from returning to the big league bullpen even thought his velocity and command haven't come back, with the explanation that "usually, that stuff doesn't come around until a guy starts pitching up here." Because we're clearly in position where we can have a guy experimenting in relief. Maybe you could, I dunno, make Lowe prove that he's okay in Tacoma while calling up Kam Mickolio to bide time, but what do I know? I'm just some guy. Clearly Lowe is to be trusted almost immediately after returning from an unprecedented procedure on his throwing elbow from which he still hasn't recovered.

All right, I think I've shaken all the anger out of my bones. Felix and Halladay tomorrow morning at 10:07am PDT, as the King gets a chance to make us all wildly overenthusiastic again before heading to Texas.

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"How does a stadium that features
John Gibbons 81 times a year get away with a microphone that picks up so much impromptu discourse?"

No FCC.

by Llewdor on Jul 21, 2007 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

No comment
CF Ichiro
2B Lopez
3B Beltre
RF Guillen
C  Kenji/Burke
1B Broussard/Wlad
LF Jones
DH Vidro/Sexson/Raul
SS Yuni
*Call up Wladam Jonentien!!!*

by SethGrandpa on Jul 21, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

LAA game very similar
to the Marine game so far: scoreless through 5 with 5 total hits.
I am not Coach Owens!

by Coach Owens on Jul 21, 2007 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Well honestly,
We've been coming out on the right side of these games more often than not.  I'm not gonna call this an aberration and move on, especially from a game where Vidro makes up 66% of the team's offense.

by ThundaPC on Jul 21, 2007 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah
the way I figure, if Ho Ramirez can be 5-2, then we're probably due to lose a rough one.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2007 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

so, what's the explanation for why
they go with Reitsma? Is it because they got locked into the idea of him being the set up man, and they aren't willing to be flexible? Are they just really easily swayed by one good outing?

I read these blogs, and it seems like these guys who run the Ms are just real hesitant to do anything out of the ordinary.  Or to make any changes at all, really. Is it just a conservative approach for the sake of a conservative approach?

by mary on Jul 21, 2007 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

They signed all these people to do a job
and they're going to give them every opportunity to succeed in that job until it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're incapable. Reitsma was brought in to be the 8th inning righty, so dammit, he's going to be the 8th inning righty until he blows a game or two and McLaren wises up.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

BARLETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
FUNK BLAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
I am not Coach Owens!

by Coach Owens on Jul 21, 2007 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

But what does it have
to do with the game? Nothing..
I am not Coach Owens!

by Coach Owens on Jul 21, 2007 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has nothing to do with this thread either
But the game threads are usually where all the reactions and other fun stuff goes.

by ThundaPC on Jul 21, 2007 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We got shut out? Ugh.
Whatever, go Twins.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Jul 21, 2007 5:56 PM PDT reply actions  

in the park home run for Joe Mauer
5-2 in the 8th...

Matthews Jr. went into the wall hard and nailed his side trying to catch it... heh

by thenatural on Jul 21, 2007 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

The cursing
has long been a part of Blue Jays telecasts.  Eric Hinske might've sucked, but his PORP (profanity over replacement player) was through the roof.

I'll just add that I've hit the jackpot.  I thought that I'd go to the game tomorrow to see bad / about to be DLed Halladay vs the Ho, but I get the King instead.  I think that'll work out well.  

by abelard on Jul 21, 2007 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

With the loss today, the Angels have gone 7-13
in their last 20 games.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Jul 21, 2007 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

IMO
Jones needs to be on the team ASAP, and Wlad and Clement need a look as well.  Any help we can get, we need.  

by chrisisasavage on Jul 21, 2007 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd leave Clement in AAA
for at least another year.  I'm willing to wait until he can really play cather (as long as Kenji keeps up his side of the bargain).  

by Edgar for Pres on Jul 21, 2007 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking about it
and I agree with you.  With Broussard on the team Clement is redundant.  

I was (originally) thinking (ut oh, I'm rosterbating):

Ibanez - "something" tendonitis, DL
Wlad, Broussard and/or Clement splitting time at DH, 1B, w/ Wlad spelling LF and RF, preferrably playing 4-6 games a weak and being available as a RH pinch hitter/sub.  

However, after rethinking, I'd leave Clement in AAA unless we end up trading Broussard and/or Burke.  I think a LHB alternating DH and C might be worth a gander, and with the way he's hitting someone MIGHT (I did the ut, oh disclaimer damnit all) take a look at Burke.  The problem is if Clement doesn't hit and we don't have a backup LHB.  So, like I (and you, first) said, leave him in AAA.  If I were GM, I'd drop Ibanez and Vidro and bring up Jones and give Wlad a look, giving him some OF time, and some DH time (and maybe try 1B a few times).  

I have this deep dark (gut, not just sabermetric) feeling, we're seeing Vidro, Ibanez, and Sexson falling off the proverbial cliff together.  We need offensive help, despite appearances otherwise.  We just need SP more.

by chrisisasavage on Jul 21, 2007 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

To fall off a cliff
You have to make it to the top of said cliff, and Vidro's fat ass can barely make it from the car to the interior of a restaurant.

by Gomez on Jul 21, 2007 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many ants would it take to carry
Jose Vidro if an ant can lift 20x its body weight?

Well Vidro is ~ 200 lbs.  An ant weighs ~ 1 gram = 0.0022 lbs so one ant can lift ~ 0.044 lbs.  Therefore it would only take ~ 4550 ants to lift Vidro.  Yes I do think it is likely he could have made it to the top of an anthill.

by Edgar for Pres on Jul 22, 2007 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

September
There's no reason to keep Jones in AAA given the struggles of the incumbents in LF... but I think it'd be best to let the others get their work in, and get an extended audition in September.

by Gomez on Jul 21, 2007 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I called the division as ours in the beginning of
the year and I'm sticking to it.  Despite our woes, Anaheim is in a lot of trouble on their own.  I choose to believe that eventually Vidro/Ibanez/Sexson's performance will eventually cause McLaren to shake things up and/or Bavasi to bring up Jones.  I also choose to believe that we will make a trade for another bullpen guy or starter before the deadline.  Whether said acquired guy is effective is another question altogether.
"Players have two things to do. Play and keep their mouths shut." - Sparky Anderson

by Omerta on Jul 21, 2007 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

So why is Felix starting instead of Ho?
Just since Ho just came back from injury and Felix will still get normal rest? I cringe at the thought of Ramirez in Texas.
No, sir, they're saying Boo-vasi.

by Mariner John on Jul 21, 2007 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

unless
<wishful thinking>
we could con them in to trading us something for him, then I'd LOVE to see him pitch for them.
</wishful thinking>

by chrisisasavage on Jul 21, 2007 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still not sure who made it
but I found this on a general baseball forum, thought you guys would like it

by Eldukey on Jul 21, 2007 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty sweet.
Hello new desktop!
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Jul 21, 2007 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto.
"Players have two things to do. Play and keep their mouths shut." - Sparky Anderson

by Omerta on Jul 21, 2007 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

So...
Are you saying we're beating a dead Ibanez with all of the Jones talk?
No, sir, they're saying Boo-vasi.

by Mariner John on Jul 22, 2007 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

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