How 'bout that Droob?

by Majic on Jun 8, 2007 8:26 PM PDT Comment 14 comments

Asdrubal Cabrera as of 06/08/07:
180 ABs in AA
Switch Hitting defensive whiz at SS
.322/.406/.506
23 SO / 26 BB
16 SB / 6 HR
13 2b / 1 3B

I thought it a bad deal at the time but now it looks even worse. Admittedly, I really liked the Sexson deal at the time so my powers of precognition are perhaps proven to be perilously paltry, but...there it is. Next nail in the coffin for Bavasi? Point to Droob.

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Where, exactly, was he going to play?

by okdan on Jun 8, 2007 9:33 PM PDT reply actions

Shortstop.

Yuni's defense has left the country.

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by PositivePaul on Jun 8, 2007 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions

But it wasn't that way when A-Cab was traded.

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 8, 2007 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed.

Still, depth in the minors is pretty important. I mean, just because Beltre is awesome, look what happens when we don't have the depth in the system. You get guys like Bloomquist starting for a week or longer. Leone For er wait...

And, actually, yes, I'd trade Yuni for Droobs straight up right now.

Okay, this sig thing is sorta working: LEARN HOW TO THROW, YUUUUUUNIIIIIIIII!!!!

by PositivePaul on Jun 8, 2007 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh so would I.

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 8, 2007 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Not sure what is going on with Yuni...

I just hope the coaches don't freak out on him and they start yelling at him to fix this problem. Same thing goes for the press, because that won't help matters at all.

Botching routine throws is 100% percent mental. It's one of those terrible things that happens sometimes, maybe Yuni needs to get a day off for a mental break. Thats what I would do if I was the manager and I would be fairly confident that the problem would be solved before it became a big deal in the press. Unfortunately Hargrove hasn't demonstrated himself to be the kind of manager who sits players before poor play becomes an issue. By the time Yuni's creative throwing becomes an issue with the press, it may be too late to fix.

by etowncoug on Jun 9, 2007 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions

He needs to stop hitting the weights

and focus more on his routine plays.

by Gomez on Jun 9, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions

seriously?

you'd trade a 25 yr old SS with terrific range but poor accuracy this season (never really before) who's OPSing .768 in the AL for a 22 yr old SS with terrific range who's OPSing 908 in AA?

I find that ridiculous.

by Matthew on Jun 9, 2007 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Patience is a virtue.

And, yes, I know, Droobs is probably 2 years away from the bigs. Still, his defense is pretty amazing, and he's got tons better plate discipline.

I'm just fairly ticked at Yuni, so XD

Okay, this sig thing is sorta working: LEARN HOW TO THROW, YUUUUUUNIIIIIIIII!!!!

by PositivePaul on Jun 9, 2007 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Even though it would be ridiculous to do so,

say you did trade 'em straight up. Who would you have play SS? Morse? Also, remember Tui?

by okdan on Jun 9, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Straight up?!

They'd better throw in a pitcher.

by Gomez on Jun 9, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah I'd say its turning out to be a kinda

crappy deal. At the time it didn't look too bad so I'm not going to blame Bavasi & Co too much. I'd be a little surprised if his average stays as high as it is. I think looking at his stats the only two things that really jump out at me are that he's cut his K/9 in half, increased his BABIP by about 20 pts, and a little increase in his ISO. It will be interesting to see if he can sustain his AVG at all. I'd expect him to maybe settle into about 290/360/450 which is still good. The move to AA also looks like its helped him a fair amount so we'll be watching to see what happens when he hits AAA again.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 8, 2007 10:03 PM PDT reply actions

At the time, it was not a bad deal

Broussard and Perez were productive bats for the Indians, and AsCab didn't really have a future here unless we planned on punting Lopez or Betancourt. I still believe Broussard is a productive bat if you give him consistent playing time.

Also, AsCab is doing this in AA. He is still, at best, a year or two away, and there's no guarantee he performs in AAA, let alone the bigs.

by Gomez on Jun 9, 2007 12:50 PM PDT reply actions

It was a terrible deal

You just don't give up 20 yo SS prospects with half decent plate discipline for aged platoon DH bats. There's something to be said for making a move at the deadline to fill a need, and the Broussard deal was certainly better - he wasn't 50 years old, for a start.
But this whole 'he didn't have a future here' thing excuses waaay too much. Should we trade Mangini as soon as we're legally able, because hey, we've got Beltre? Should we trade Triunfel?

This isn't to say that you have to keep your minor leaguers at all cost. But you've got to get something you really need - something valuable. I've got no problem trading Moore or Clement or Tui or.. for a good pitching 'spect. But I'd be a bit annoyed if we traded Wlad for Jesse freakin' Orosco or Mike Myers.

The other thing I'd point out is that at the time of the deal, Bavasi had ranked Oswaldo Navarro and Travis Chick equal to AsCab, a judgment that simply hasn't aged well. As we approach another deadline, I just really want to see that Bavasi's gotten better at talent evaluation.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions