6/5: Open Game Thread

Roberts 2B Ichiro CF Payton LF Lopez 2B Markakis RF Guillen RF Tejada SS Ibanez LF Millar 1B Johjima C Huff DH Vidro DH Mora 3B Broussard 1B Hernandez C Betancourt SS Patterson CF Ballgame 3B ---------- ----------
Burres (3-2, 3.08) Baek (3-2, 4.93)
A couple things:
- I know absolutely nothing about Brian Burres, but he seems to walk a lot of people, meaning this could be a nightmare for our lineup.
- The Mariners have the fifth-best FIP in the American League, which makes them look pretty damn good when you match it with an offense on pace to score 846 runs. The only problem is...
- ...the defense, which THT has at -14 on grounders and -7 on fly balls. Third-worst in the AL, sixth-worst overall. Things'll get better when Betancourt stops trying to hyperextend Sexson's ligaments with errant throws, but still, this team has not been good in the field.
- If Safeco reduces runs by 7%, then this is a park-neutral 876-run offense over a full season. That's incredibly good, and 75-100 runs better than most people were projecting. It won't keep hitting .307 with RISP all year long, but then Richie Sexson won't keep being an unmitigated disaster, either, so that should balance out.
LET'S GO MARINERS!!
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Shit
Why the fuck did I say "Hey! It's my day off, and my parents aren't home I'm getting wasted!"??!?!
by I'm NOT Corco on Jun 5, 2007 3:29 PM PDT 0 recs
It's actually 4:30
I finished those, had a third, and then a fourth, and then a fifth.
And now i'm drunk.
Fuck this.
by I'm NOT Corco on
Jun 5, 2007 3:33 PM PDT
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I'm not ever letting one of them females
by I'm NOT Corco on
Jun 5, 2007 3:39 PM PDT
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Just brush your teeth, go lay down in bed,
Oh, and hide the empties!
by Thingray on
Jun 5, 2007 3:48 PM PDT
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Mariners' Player of the Month
by jtopps on
Jun 5, 2007 4:16 PM PDT
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FWIW
Let's see, who desperately needs a 3B/LF?
by Gomez on
Jun 5, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
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Hmmm.
by PositivePaul on
Jun 5, 2007 4:41 PM PDT
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Hard pressed to think so
by Gomez on
Jun 5, 2007 7:14 PM PDT
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Daniels is sabr-friendly
by Rollo Tomasi on
Jun 5, 2007 7:18 PM PDT
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I know I've brought this up before
by Edgar for Pres on Jun 5, 2007 3:32 PM PDT 0 recs
I'm pretty sure it's just balls in play
UZR has Sexson at -9 runs per 150 games (2003-2007). Do you think he's worth +9 runs saving bad throws? I don't. He's good at it, and his height gives him an advantage, but first basemen are supposed to be able to save the shortstop's bacon.
by Jeff on
Jun 5, 2007 3:36 PM PDT
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His reach has always been a plus
by Gomez on
Jun 5, 2007 3:40 PM PDT
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But how many of those
by Jeff on
Jun 5, 2007 3:43 PM PDT
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This is a job for
... whoever the hell he is.
by Gomez on
Jun 5, 2007 3:45 PM PDT
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Captain Research
by Jeff on
Jun 5, 2007 3:47 PM PDT
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Earthquake?
by Deanna on
Jun 5, 2007 4:35 PM PDT
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Thought you were in San Diego,
Take one for the team man! LOL!
by Thingray on
Jun 5, 2007 4:55 PM PDT
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There comes a point in everyman's life
by Robert on
Jun 5, 2007 5:00 PM PDT
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Good point.
by Jeff on
Jun 5, 2007 5:07 PM PDT
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BTW
by Robert on
Jun 5, 2007 5:12 PM PDT
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Besides, Courage would do a rally dance
Or you can hope Captain Planet stops by.
by Thingray on
Jun 5, 2007 5:13 PM PDT
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I was in San Diego for an LA Earthquake
by Ben in Va on
Jun 5, 2007 6:11 PM PDT
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I was in
by derban on
Jun 5, 2007 8:41 PM PDT
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I don't know really
by Edgar for Pres on
Jun 5, 2007 4:11 PM PDT
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So the gist of it is
by Edgar for Pres on
Jun 5, 2007 6:55 PM PDT
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I keep trying to get this point across
"first basemen are supposed to be able to save the shortstop's bacon."
I understand it's rec league, but occasionally they should be able to save a short-hopped throw, or one that's a little wide. It's the SS that's going deep in the hole and having to throw off balance, so help a brother out sometimes!
by Thingray on
Jun 5, 2007 4:35 PM PDT
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You should have me play 1B for you
by Scruffy Lefty on
Jun 5, 2007 5:34 PM PDT
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Speaking of Softball
by Scruffy Lefty on
Jun 5, 2007 5:37 PM PDT
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Haha
I made a throwing error from 1B the other day, and all my buddies were ragging on me for the error. It's ridiculous how much a sweet scoop or big stretch to "save the infielders bacon" gets overlooked. It's not that easy "I think I'm gods gift to athletics to I play SS in rec softball" guy.
by PShwa on
Jun 5, 2007 5:41 PM PDT
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I'm a lefty
But I have become a pitcher now because of my reaction time and I get hit at a lot.
by Scruffy Lefty on
Jun 5, 2007 5:43 PM PDT
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I never said it was easy!
I am by no means "gods gift to rec league SS", and I'm well aware of that. That's why I wish my first baseman got more credit for the nice catches he makes for all of us infielders.
If you don't dive, it seems nobody notices a good play.
by Thingray on
Jun 5, 2007 6:13 PM PDT
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THANK YOU.
I only make fun of the SS because every time I play its the most cocky kid with no range or arm, who has to blame every mistake on everyone else.
I say nice play and all that to my fielders all the time and I get the look of "psh...that was easy"
Just my experience, I know most people arent like that.
Either way, I think 1B in softball is great to play...scoops feel so good when you dont fuck them up haha.
by PShwa on
Jun 5, 2007 6:27 PM PDT
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One thing I've noticed is that on wide throws, I
Seriously if you can't reach for the throw, get off the damn bag and catch the damn ball. It's much better for the guy to be safe at first because you were off the bag, then for the ball to go sailing past you and the runner heads to 2nd.
I've recently switched to right field to help out our OF defense because it's been horrible, so we had some tryouts for first base to see who was gonna take my place, and that's always the main problem.
by Goose on
Jun 5, 2007 5:44 PM PDT
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I'm not worried about the infield defense,
Ibanez is not a good LF (and we all know that) and Guillen has looked both impressive, and scary (seems inconsistent to me). I don't know a realistic solution to the OF problem, I sure don't want to bench either one of them to play Ellison every day.
by Thingray on Jun 5, 2007 4:19 PM PDT 0 recs
Well this isn't realistic
Adam Jones for Raul would upgrade the defense nicely. Would upgrade the offense, too.
And if you think that Raul's being left handed is worth something, I guess you could swap Big Ben and Richie, too.
by Zack on
Jun 5, 2007 4:57 PM PDT
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So that's Yuni's goal with those throws!
by Manzanillos Cup on Jun 5, 2007 4:30 PM PDT 0 recs
How is Lopez's defense?
by Rollo Tomasi on Jun 5, 2007 4:56 PM PDT 0 recs
Hello Again
by Baltimo on Jun 5, 2007 5:38 PM PDT 0 recs
wow you sound like us for the last 3 years
by Scruffy Lefty on
Jun 5, 2007 5:39 PM PDT
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No
by Baltimo on
Jun 5, 2007 5:43 PM PDT
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Or the Royals
by Baltimo on
Jun 5, 2007 5:51 PM PDT
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I mean no offense
by Baltimo on
Jun 5, 2007 6:01 PM PDT
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The Mariners in the late 90s
by Rollo Tomasi on
Jun 5, 2007 6:06 PM PDT
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Victor Diaz salami
by Rollo Tomasi on Jun 5, 2007 6:04 PM PDT 0 recs
He was ok there
by Rollo Tomasi on
Jun 5, 2007 6:08 PM PDT
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It was only a matter of time
It's all about the DP baby!
by TheMarinator on
Jun 5, 2007 6:12 PM PDT
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Don't jinx people like that.
by Rollo Tomasi on
Jun 5, 2007 6:08 PM PDT
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If peavy is pitching tonight
by Dan on Jun 5, 2007 6:10 PM PDT 0 recs
NO
But guess what....
Felix starts Sunday as well!
by TheMarinator on
Jun 5, 2007 6:15 PM PDT
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To Baltimo
He represents our hopes and dreams as Mariner fans.
by TheMarinator on Jun 5, 2007 6:19 PM PDT 0 recs
Tell you what
by Matthew on Jun 5, 2007 6:25 PM PDT 0 recs
Holy Crap
- I. Suzuki, CF
- J. Lopez, 2B
- J. Guillen, RF
- R. Ibanez, LF
- K. Johjima, C
- J. Vidro, DH
- B. Broussard, 1B
- Y. Betancourt, SS
- W. Bloomquist, 3B
by ThundaPC on Jun 5, 2007 6:29 PM PDT 0 recs
It's amazing how adequately Hargrove
by JI on
Jun 5, 2007 6:32 PM PDT
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add Beltre back into that
by Matthew on
Jun 5, 2007 6:32 PM PDT
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Sexson>>Broussard
by Edgar for Pres on
Jun 5, 2007 6:51 PM PDT
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wah....
Not a good lineup.
by Rollo Tomasi on
Jun 5, 2007 7:01 PM PDT
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BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
VULTURE
Where's Mateo?
by ThundaPC on Jun 5, 2007 6:44 PM PDT 0 recs
The Big Unit needs 7 K's today to overtake
Has got 2 in the first inning.
by Goose on Jun 5, 2007 6:48 PM PDT 0 recs
Make that 8 K's
by Goose on
Jun 5, 2007 6:49 PM PDT
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good thing I have Nate Robertson
by MFAN on Jun 5, 2007 7:06 PM PDT 0 recs
So Corey Patterson
by I'm NOT Corco on Jun 5, 2007 7:10 PM PDT 0 recs
geez...
not that this has anything to do with anything
by thenatural on Jun 5, 2007 7:12 PM PDT 0 recs


