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6/28 Minor League Wrap-Up

Click the jump and reading is worth it only for the link to the horrifying piece of video that I found last night.  You'll have to read through to find it, though.

That said, you're pretty much reading for line scores, as the games were pretty much washes one way or another... well, except for the Everett game, but let's not talk about that ;P

Also, Dave Cameron discovered something very uncanny about Jeff Clement's success in Tacoma and I highly encourage you to go and read it. Yes, it has to do with his batspeed, and the opposition off which he has been very successful the last few months.

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VENEZUELA~!  VSL Mariners 6, VSL Tigers 1

Leonardo Rodriguez:  7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, walk, 2 K, wild pitch, hit batter
Reynaldo Sabala:  1 IP, 1 H, 2 walks, K
Jose Jimenez:  1 IP, 3 K
Yidid Batista:  4-4, double, walk (.294)
Terry Serrano:  1-2, 2 RBI, walk (.256)
Jose Rivero:  1-3, solo HR, 2 walks, 2 K (.291)

Leonardo Rodriguez's rep as the VSLM's ace was beginning to slip, so go figure he goes out and hurls the longest outing of the season, 7 strong innings while allowing only 8 baserunners.  The BsIP below are pretty much similar to any VSL pitcher, as most of the hitters put it on the ground, but to do it over 7 innings without getting hit that much is no small feat in any league.

Flyballs:  5
Groundballs:  12
Pop Ups:  3
Walks:  1 (plus 1 hit batter)
Strikeouts:  2

Also, Terry Serrano reminded us that he's still alive by knocking in a couple runs.

AZL:  Mariners 21, Brewers 8

Thomas Johanassen-Ellis:  3 IP, 6 H, (4 R) 1 ER, 2 walks, hit batter
Fabian Williamson:  2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, walk, 5 K
Javier Martinez:  2 IP, 3 H, 3 ER (HR), walk, 3 K
Miguel Marquez:  2 IP, 1 H, 4 K
Maximo Mendez:  2-3, 2 R, RBI, walk, K
Brandon McConnell:  2-3, double, R, RBI
Juan Fuentes:  2-4, 2 doubles, 2 R, 3 RBI
Craig Hurba:  1-3, R, RBI, K
Mario Martinez:  2-4, double, 2 R, RBI
Luis Nunez:  3-5, double, triple, 2 R, 4 RBI
Brandon Fromm:  2-4, triple, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2 walks, 2 K
Dwight Britton:  2-4, R, 3 RBI, K

The Mariners scored two touchdowns in the 2nd inning to put this away.

You think I'm kidding?  No, they put up a 12 spot in the 2nd, and this game was about over despite the 4 spot that the Brewers put up in the 1st.  The Mariners added 6 in the 8th for good measure.

Danny Daniel Carroll, for only the 2nd time in 6 games, put up ONLY one hit in the ballgame.  All his other games have been 2-hit ballgames.  And speaking of 2 hit ballgames, 7 of his teammates had multihit games in this massive blowout.

a:  Tri City 2, Everett 1, 11 innings

Nolan Gallagher:  6 IP, 2 H, 2 walks, 2 K
Keith Meyer:  3 IP, 1 H, 1 ER (HR), walk, 2 K
Will Brown:  faced two batters, plunked both of them, fails
Nick Hill:  1.1 IP, 2 H, (1 R) 0 ER, walk (intentional), 3 K, wild pitch
Greg Halman:  1-5, solo HR, 4 K: The Golden Sombrero
Mike Mangini:  2-5, K
Edilio Colina:  2-5, K

After Everett scored a 1st inning run, Tri City clamped down on the Aquasox bats with 16 strikeouts over 11 innings, and the Dust Devils tied it in the 7th when Johnny Bowden took Keith Meyer deep for a solo shot.

Everett had a chance to take the lead in the top 9th, when marquise Liverpool walked with one out, took 2nd on a wild pitch and stole 3rd on Kalian Sams' strikeout... but Jeff Dunbar popped up to end the threat.

Nick Hill saved the Aquasox bacon in the 10th.  Will Brown came in and plunekd both batters he faced, so Hill came in with no outs and men on 1st and 2nd.  Tri City bunted them ahead for one out, but Hill intentionally walked the next batter, then struck out the next two to get out of it.  CLUTCH.

But in the 11th, Logan Wiens lined a one out single and took 2nd on a bad throw from Kalian Sams in RF.  Hill then uncorked a wild pitch to move the runner to 3rd, and when the Dust Devils executed the suicide squeeze, Hill could not make a play at the plate in time and the Dust Devils won.

A:  Wisconsin 8, Peoria 3

Steven Richard:  7 IP, 5 H, (2 R) 1 ER, 2 walks, 6 K
Keith Renaud:  1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, walk
Shawn Kelley:  1 IP, 1 H, K, wild pitch
Juan Diaz:  2-5, 2 R, RBI, K (.328)
Reed Eastley:  1-3, triple, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2 walks
Carlos Peguero:  1-4, RBI, walk (.259)
Joseph White:  2-4, double, 2 RBI, walk (.321)

Curious note: the Chiefs starter for yesterday was Juan Mateo, the former Cubs reliever who also happens to be from the same town in the Dominican Republic (Bani) as our beloved Wife Vulture.  Related?  I say yes.

Meanwhile, Derby Trio member Steven Richard has remained consistent, refusing to allow any runs after allowing a run in the 1st and one more in the 2nd, only allowing 3 well hit balls in the air all day.  Meanwhile, the T-Rats jumped on the Peoria bullpen for 3 runs in the 5th and 2 more in the 6th.  A 3-spot in the 8th put it out of reach for good.

Richard got groundball after groundball, the only line drive he surrendered was to the last batter he faced... and that liner went right to Alex Liddi at 3B to end the 7th.

Flyballs:  2
Groundballs:  13 (plus 1 bunt)
Line Drives:  1
Pop Ups:  1
Walks:  2
Strikeouts:  6

A+:  Lancaster 7, High Desert 4

Jose Escalona:  6 IP, 8 H, 5 ER (HR), 2 walks, 5 K, hit batter
Roman Martinez:  2 IP, walk, K
Paul Fagan:  1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, walk
Jesus Guzman:  3-3, 2 run HR, 2 R, 2 walks (.293)
Johan Limonta:  2-5 (.293)
Jeff Frazier:  2-5, 2 doubles, RBI
Travis Scott:  2-5 (.317)

THEY'RE BAAAAAACK!  The Jethawks are like Freddy Krueger to the Mavs pitching staff, and yesterday wasn't any exception.  Jose Escalona wasn't as bad as his last start, but he wasn't good, thanks to a 3 run inning in the 3rd and 2 more during his 6th and final frame.  And his BIP was even worse: EIGHT line drives, 6 flyballs and only 5 grounders!  This outing actually could have been a lot worse, not 1.2 IP, 9 R worse, as most of this damage came in the middle of his 6 inning start, so more like 4 IP, 8-9 ER worse.

Flyballs:  6
Groundballs:  5
Line Drives:  8
Pop Ups:  1
Walks:  2 (plus 1 hit batter)
Strikeouts:  5

It was 5-2 Lancaster after 6 innings, and High Desert squeezed another run in, but were unable to really get in range for the comeback.  Paul Fagan certainly didn't help, giving up two more runs in the 9th to make it 7-3.

AA:  Mobile 4, West Tenn 1

Doug FISTER!:  1 IP, 1 H, walk
Chris Jakubauskas:  5.1 IP, 5 H, 3 ER (HR), 2 walks, 5 K
David Asher:  0.1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER
Michael Hrynio:  1.1 IP, 2 H, walk, 2 K
Luis Valbuena:  1-4, double, R, K (.231)
Prentice Redman:  1-3, RBI, walk (.265)
Matt Tuiasosopo:  0-3, walk (.275)
Michael Wilson:  1-2, double, K (.075)
Luis Oliveros:  1-3 (.287)
rest of DIAMOND JAXX lineup:  3-16, walk, 3 K

The Fist returned from whatever ailed his shoulder, and threw a scoreless rehab inning before the Indy League newcomer Jakubauskas came in and worked into the 7th.  However, the Indy Leaguer's outing yesterday wasn't as good as his previous ones.  It was already a mixed bag of good fortune before the BayBears threw up 2 runs in the 3rd: Justin Upton drew a one out walk, and then with two outs, Carlos Gonzalez took Jakubauskas deep for his 9th HR of the season to make it 2-1.  Jakubauskas settled down, getting help from three straight Mobile batters lining balls right to fielders.  In the 7th, Jakubauskas gave up a leadoff single on a groundball, and after Ronnie Merrill Jr got on with a bunt, Jakubauskas was pulled for David Asher.  Asher eventually allowed both of his runners to score.

Flyballs:  4
Groundballs:  4 (plus 2 bunts)
Line Drives:  4
Pop Ups:  1
Walks:  2
Strikeouts:  5

Meanwhile, Mobile starter Brooks Brown picked up from where Max Scherzer left off the day before, holding the DIAMOND JAXX to a harmless run over 6 innings, while the bullpen did the rest.

This loss, however, wasn't in any way embarrassing.  In fact, nothing the DIAMOND JAXX could do from this point out could possibly be as embarrassing... as this.

AAA:  Portland 7, Tacoma 2, 8 innings due to rain

Juan Doñe:  6 IP, 5 H, 5 ER (HR), 4 walks, 3 K
Juan Sandoval:  1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, walk (ERA: 15.43)
Jason Mackintosh:  1 IP, 2 H, K
Adam Jones:  1-3, double, 2 K (.309)
WLAD:  0-3, 2 K (.322)
Jeff Clement:  1-2, 2 run HR, walk, K (.284)
rest of Rainiers lineup:  2-16, R, walk, 4 K
um, where is Jeremy Reed?

So Juan Doñe got beat up a bit, and with rain coming down pretty good, and Portland already leading 7-2, the umps waved everybody off as Aaron Rakers came in to pitch the bottom 8th.

So, Doñe.  He looked alright, had a 2-0 lead through 2, and then the 3rd inning happened.  Walk, line drive, line drive, walk, line drive, line drive HOME RUN, and it's 5-2.  With the bullpen consisting of a bunch of glorified janitors, Doñe was left in and he finished the inning.  Unfortunate, as he settled down and pitched well the rest of the way.  That big 3rd inning alone undid his outing and undid the Rainiers, as the bats never really got going.

Flyballs:  1
Groundballs:  10
Line Drives:  5
Pop Ups:  2
Walks:  4
Strikeouts:  3

And then Juan Sandoval gave up two more runs.  The umps calling the game didn't make a big difference, as it didn't look like the Rainiers had a lot of fight left in them.

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All minor league teams should rap
And I say this just because I thik Wlad rapping would be funny.

by Llewdor on Jun 29, 2007 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

But only if he dresses like Manny
I saw WLAD's feature on Mariners All Access last night, and apparently, he idolizes Manny Ramirez and wants to be like him.

He can emulate his offense and propensity for selling friends' grills on eBay for all he wants, as long as he doesn't emulate his defense and occasional trade demands and combativeness :P

by Gomez on Jun 29, 2007 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to comment over on USSM
and I still might, but I know Jeff here has been posting some stuff recently on "power pitchers" v. "control pitchers," and I think it'd be intersting to see Clement's splits on that given what Dave said on USSM.

by tworsandtwols on Jun 29, 2007 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I think RH/LH splits in AAA already do this
In AAA almost all LH are control pitchers, and almost all RH are power pitchers.  The LH fireballers don't spend much time in AAA and are rare to begin with.  RH finesse pitchers rarely make it to AAA and are also rare to begin with.

by arbeck77 on Jun 29, 2007 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Er...
Ryan Franklin? Cha Baek? Justin Lehr? Jorge Campillo? That's FOUR guys I can think of involving the Rainiers. I'm sure I could find more.

RH guys with "eh" fastballs who depend on control and defense are VERY common in AAA.

by eponymous coward on Jun 29, 2007 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

and now you know why the mariners staff sucks
look at the guys we had in AAA.  Most teams don't stock up on guys like that.

by arbeck77 on Jun 29, 2007 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose you have a point
but don't other teams have Cha Sueng Baeks sitting around there, too? Campillo is a righty.... Or is our system just strange this way with what we've often called AAAA talent?

by tworsandtwols on Jun 29, 2007 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have that data.
Baseball-Reference only does the Majors. But like Dave says, RH/LH splits are a good proxy, and they're not encouraging.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 29, 2007 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting about Clement
But I think Jeff has already put our minds at ease with his stats on Ortiz.

If Clement is only going to have success against guys who throw less then 92 then call him up right now.  There are plenty of those pitchers in the majors.

by Fan since Rupert Jones on Jun 29, 2007 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far.
The point is that the only pitchers Clement has been crushing have been guys who aren't anywhere close to Major League caliber. It doesn't do us any good to know that a guy in AAA can destroy Ryan Ketchner, because Ryan Ketchner will never make the big leagues. According to the scouts Clement still isn't hitting quality arms, and the numbers appear to back that up.

It's also worth pointing out that, for his career, Ortiz still has a ~.800 OPS against power arms. The magnitude of this year's split is a fluke.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 29, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap
is he really going by "Danny" Carroll? I think if he is I might have to disown him. I usually go by Daniel and I'm fine with going by Dan, but only a select few people can call me Danny and get away with it.

And by "get away with it" I mean "have me not care about it," because as a 5'7" 150 pound white guy, I'm not that imposing.

by tworsandtwols on Jun 29, 2007 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you may be my long lost twin...
Except I'm taller than you are.
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm 5'7 and a half, actually
and I fear that I am gaining more weight since taking most of the summer to sit on my butt. I'm still pretty stickly, but I have a little bit of pudge to me now that I'm not so happy about.

I need to get out more.

And I have facial hair.

by tworsandtwols on Jun 29, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

5'11, no pudge, goatee.
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mostly the Daniel, Danny, Dan thing...
But then you said you were a smaller guy, and I'm 5'11 and about 145 lbs, so I figured we were close.

Besides, I never said IDENTICAL twins!   :)

This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I guess that works
and mine's a goatee too, though the sides are working their way toward a great "Snidely Whiplash" halloween costume with the handlebars.

by tworsandtwols on Jun 29, 2007 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go full out Snidely.
That's what I'd recommend.
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes
You guys need to start eating.
"You guys should be in every major city. This is some heavy shit. This is, like, Lone Ranger heavy, man."

by AZSEAfan on Jun 29, 2007 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm on the see-food diet.
I see food, I eat it!  I'm constantly eating, I just have an exceptional metabolism (and a Mom that weighs 98 pounds).
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here
I'm 6'1 and I have weighed 140 pounds for the last 5 years. Its pretty funny seeing all my friends from high school get fat while I stay the same andeat twice as much as they do.

by Robert on Jun 29, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ain't it great?
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not all fun and games,
It does suck to be the smallest guy in pretty much every group, and it sure didn't help me get any chicks in high school (although now that I'm in my 30's, and most guys my age are getting fat, it works out better).

Plus, when you're the skinny guy, all your buddies who are like 6'4, 230 lbs all think it's really freakin' hilarious to throw you over their shoulder and carry you around the bar for laughs (bastards)!

This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I weigh exactly the same as I did when
I graduated high school. Everyone says "you'll fill out when you 20"  Nope. "You'll fill out when you turn 25"  Nope. "You'll gain weight when you hit your 30's"  Not yet!

Now it's "just wait until you turn 40".  I'm waiting.

This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Similar, but worse
I'm 6'3 and I might crack 140 around the holidays if the food is particularly good.  I can eat whatever without any consequences.

Everyone in my family is like this, hummingbird-type metabolisms, it's bizarre.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett

by JY on Jun 29, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

My entire Mom's side of the family is what way,
And my Dad's side are all built like brick shit-houses, and can pick up small buildings with one arm.

I took after my Mom obviously. At least I can run fast, and jump pretty well for a white guy.

This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember growing up with this problem
I was a series of sticks and couldn't fill out for the life of me.  But then I moved away from home, eating more foods of substance, and began to finally fill in during my early 20's.

I could use some more exercise and fine tuning, but I think back to my conundrum and realize that I got what I wanted.

by Gomez on Jun 29, 2007 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup
Had the same problem as a kid. Just could not gain weight for the life of me. Joined the Navy at 123 lbs and after lots of good eating and working out, got out 8 years later at 185 with the same body fat%.

Now that I'm over 30, I'm 10 lbs lighter but yet fatter. Strange how that works out.

"You guys should be in every major city. This is some heavy shit. This is, like, Lone Ranger heavy, man."

by AZSEAfan on Jun 29, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm over 30 and still waiting.
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 29, 2007 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh
I may be wrong on that.  I think I subconsciously shortened it.  I'll verify and, if it's Daniel, I'll call him Daniel from here on out.

by Gomez on Jun 29, 2007 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doug Fister!
I have no point here, I just felt like being happy he's back.

by Deanna on Jun 29, 2007 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

And not a moment too soon
With Rohrbaugh and Doñe having been called up, the DIAMOND JAXX could certainly use him.

by Gomez on Jun 29, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The D-Jaxx could use anyone.
That's a pretty sorry looking team right now.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett

by JY on Jun 29, 2007 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

They've fallen real flat
An opportune callup/return or 3 could really lift their spirits right now.

At least they still have MC Baldwin 29.

by Gomez on Jun 29, 2007 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's time
Next year if we are lucky enough to keep Ichiro get Ibanez and Guillen the fuck out of the outfield. If not this year, then '08 needs to be Jones/Balentins time. Get these old fucks with bad ankles and hamstrings off the field.

by TheMarinator on Jun 29, 2007 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

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