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42-33, A Few Things

  • 42-33. 42-33! And Los Angeles got swept by the freaking Royals!

  • At first I thought the power being out today might be a bit of a blessing, since I didn't expect the game to go very well at all. I was anticipating a loss, and even when I checked the score on my phone and it said "1-0 Seattle bottom 3rd" I thought it was a fluke. As I kept re-checking the score, though, my phone kept saying "1-0 Seattle," so I became more and more invested. I thought it was all over in the seventh when Boston knotted things up and got people on base for Ortiz (by this point I was going online with my phone and dealing with slow loading times to get the play-by-play), but that's what I get for doubting the bullpen.

    Around that point I got to a friend's house, and with the Mets in a rain delay, ESPN started showing bonus coverage of the M's game. They pulled away before the bottom of the ninth, because clearly far more people were interested in the completely irrelevant early innings of a game between the Yankees and Orioles, but we were able to boot up MLB.tv and watch until the end. The whole experience reminded me why I generally don't like to watch sports with friends, because if I like one of the teams playing and the game gets stressful, I turn into a wreck. I can't count how many times I wrote that one off, be it when Morrow intentionally walked JD Drew, or when Burke struck out, or when we stranded guys on the corners, or when Jason Davis had to come in out of the bullpen. I thought it was as good as over when Richie popped out. If you were reading my mind you would've though the Mariners lost this game four or five times.

    And then they pulled it out. With eight baserunners in eleven innings against the Red Sox, they pulled it out. After having listened to the final two innings of the Royals/Angels game on the radio in the car, this felt like one of the greatest baseball days I'd had in years. At one point I thought to myself "well in all fairness we didn't have to beat Schilling or Beckett," but then I realized, so what? Boston had the privilege of facing Weaver and Feierabend and couldn't do a damn thing. The Mariners earned this sweep and left every last thing they had out there on the field this afternoon, and now they get a day off to rest up and be merry. And so do we. Sometimes the good thing about baseball is that you have the chance to move on from today with a good game tomorrow, but other times you just want to take it easy and soak in the moment. Commence soakage.

  • Game thread intro:
    Anyway, the pitching matchup sucks, but if Feierabend's able to make a few balls die at the track instead of soar over it, that might be enough to keep it interesting.

    I didn't get to watch Feierabend go to work, but the box score tells me he had ten fly ball outs, and the play-by-play says seven of them were "deep". I'm guessing today would've been a whole hell of a lot different had it taken place in Fenway. But then, we've known for a while that, like Washburn, Feierabend has a skillset that's well-suited for this ballpark, so why hold it against him when he takes advantage? Way to not suck. The next lineup you face won't be as terrifying, I promise.

  • The "greatest clutch hitter of all time" has hit .226 in close and late situations so far this year. Clear fluke, but the guy stranded 11 baserunners in the series, and that's a big part of why we won. Interesting sidenote: Ortiz has a 1.024 OPS, but stands at a paltry .583 against what Baseball-Reference considers "power pitchers" (K% + BB% > 28%). Single-season splits don't mean very much at all, especially in late June, but if you look at his career, he's at .930 overall and .794 against power arms. This is a considerably wider split than the average (.758 vs. .711; the Mariners, for example, are currently at .764 and .740), and it suggests that the man may actually have a weakness after all. If David Ortiz stands between you and a win, call on the guy with the heat, even if his control could be better. It's the easiest of several difficult ways to make him disappear.
  • Mike Hargrove deserves all the credit in the world for his bullpen usage today (going to Davis sucks, but he didn't have a choice; O'Flaherty was exhausted and I don't trust Rowland-Smith in that situation). Putz in the ninth was a stroke of brilliance, and I don't think that's a move he makes a year ago. Francona did a swell job himself for a while there until the end, when a still inexplicably roidless Joel Pineiro showed up and promptly sent everyone home. Seriously, why not get him loaded again? Either he sneaks by and develops a fastball again or he gets caught and suspended, in which case your team loses nothing at all, because Pineiro's been horrible. I absolutely love that he got to walk off the Safeco mound with the opposing team celebrating around him, because his eventless final game last September didn't give him the send-off he deserved. Up yours, Joel. Finally we've discovered a way to use your awful pitching to our advantage.
  • Yuniesky Betancourt had another three pop-outs today. I don't know what the single-season record is, but he must've shattered it about a week ago.
  • The Seattle Mariners have the second-best June record in the American League. And the only team ahead of them just got swept at home by the Royals.

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I forgot to mention
looking through the condensed game and a little pitch-by-pitch action, Red was getting a metric ass-ton of camera time.

And then the Sportscenter appearance? Spectacular. Your fame is spreading.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 12:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Not just the Greatest Mariner Fan ever.
But the Greatest Baseball Fan ever!

Also, if we win the next two games, we will have equaled our record from last June(18-8). Which is quite amazing considering the 6 game losing streak.

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 28, 2007 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that guy!
I turned to my friend "ha, look at the rally shirt.  it worked I guess!"  Who is he, a poster here?

by ABY on Jun 28, 2007 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everything you need to know about that man
can be found in this post:

http://lookoutlanding.com/story/2007/6/1/41020/06713

Be sure to watch the video.

He really is a hero. His name is Red, and some people here have met him at the ballpark and filled him in on his Internet celebrity. He's since dropped by and posts from time to time.

Role. Model.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome!
...and for sure "Alien" was inspired by that Flavor Flav picture.

by ABY on Jun 28, 2007 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Los Angeles Jeff?
Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 28, 2007 1:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I've switched from calling them Anaheim
because apparently it's what their owner wants, and it makes them madder.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, they want to be called Anahiem now?
I thought it was the other way around?
Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 28, 2007 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

No no
Moreno wants Los Angeles. I prefer it to Anaheim, because it overlooks the city completely.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

wooooooooooooooooooooooo
games like this are utter fun after the fact.

Jeff, you've said several times that we watch sports to be surprised, to see something new. Well I think we invest so much into sports because of games like this. This was an emotional roller coaster from start to finish and at the end it just felt so utterly worth it.

Yesterday was the same way, only better. They say nothing is more dramatic than a walk-off-win, which may be true, but for me, give me your ace closer striking out the side against a great offense with a one-run lead. That's the top of the mountain right there in terms of emotion. The whole time you are painfully aware that one swing ties it and shatters you. But the closer just keeps throwing strikes. It gets louder with each one. One K. Two Ks. Crowd yelling. You're yelling.  But there's still that knowledge of one swing away from tie game. And then, BAM! Shut the door. Absolute bedlam.

Aside from that, and we're really spoiled to have two such moments like that (yesterday and the Bonds gams), walk-offs are neat, especially when they come relatively out of nowhere like Cammy's 19th inning blast years back or this pull-job from Jose.

This is what winning and losing is all about though. I sincerely believe that you cannot fully appreciate wins until you've lost. If the team you root for wins it all the first year you start paying attention, do you feel anything? Emotional investment is like a debit account and you have to make many broken-hearted deposits to make the withdrawl at the end worth it.

It is just impossible to fathom what back-to-back wins like this feels like until you suffer through what most of us have gone through. Perennial losing sucks and perennial winning becomes boring after awhile, but this is perfect right here. It's like 4-hour sex.

by Matthew on Jun 28, 2007 1:14 AM PDT reply actions  

I loved Dave's story about that 19 inning game
during this broadcast.

Niehaus: "I remember that 19 inning game where Mike Cameron sent us all hom with his shot into the bleachers.  I don't remember what inning it was.  The 14th? Or 15th?"

Blowers: "Uh, wasn't it the 19th inning, Dave?"

Dave Niehaus is turning into Murray Walker, and I love it.

by Llewdor on Jun 28, 2007 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

More Ichiro:
From the MLB.com recap...

'Ichiro singled in that run, recording his first Major League hit off Dice-K in the third. Ichiro had previously been 0-for-6 against the right-hander, something he was well aware of.

"Of course [I knew it]," Ichiro said. "If I didn't know that, I would have a mental illness of not being able to remember things."'

by Graham MacAree on Jun 28, 2007 1:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I was meaning to mention that but forgot.
He wasted ten words when he could've just said 'amnesia'. It's hilarious in how totally weird it is.

"Hey Jeff, you hungry?"

"No thanks, I already made a snack where I put chicken, bacon, lettuce, tomato, and mayonnaise between three slices of bread sliced diagonally."

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty typical Japanese mannerisms tho
Politeness requires that you explain yourself thoroughly.
"Regression" is fat people speak for "don't touch my fucking cake, asshole."

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jun 28, 2007 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

You would do on a chicken & bacon club
Seriously, I'm becoming quite unnerved at the frequency of food and alcohol references on this site.
P3 W1 L2 (.333)

by MarkE on Jun 28, 2007 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Mitch, can I use the Spray 'N Wash?
Yeah, if you want to spray your shirt with documents!
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jun 28, 2007 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm flattered.
Mitch Hedberg is the greatest comedian ever.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh...
Jerry Seinfeld says hello.
Top 5 Greatest Players ever: 1. Josh Gibson 2. Cool Papa Bell 3. Babe Ruth 4. Matty 5. Ty Cobb

by Coach Owens on Jun 28, 2007 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

With all due respect
I said "greatest comedian," not "richest comedian."

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a Robin Williams fan
But I seem to be alone with that.

by Robert on Jun 28, 2007 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Mitch Hedberg
but Eddie Izzard is my favorite comedian.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jun 28, 2007 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take (in no particular order):
Mitch Hedberg
Dennis Leary
Ron White
Lewis Black
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 28, 2007 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I leave the gas on?
...

NO, I'M A FUCKING SQUIRREL!

by Gomez on Jun 28, 2007 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
And monkeys do too (if they've got a gun).
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jun 28, 2007 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed
Your little rant reminded me of Mitch's joke about forming a club to eat a sandwich

by DCMariner on Jun 28, 2007 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I alone on this one?
Ellen Degeneres?  Her standup routines have always killed me.

by lessthnpar on Jun 28, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm usually not much for female comics,
(maybe I just haven't seen any good ones), but I have to admit she's pretty funny!
This place has a sign hangin' over the urinal that says, "Don't eat the big white mint".

by Thingray on Jun 28, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yeah...
The majority of the female comics are pretty bad.  Paula Poundstone?  WTF?  Margeret Cho offends me as an Asian person.  Sarah Silverman has moments.  I do laugh a lot at Christopher Guest's Judy Tenuta shirt in Waiting For Guffman if that counts.

by lessthnpar on Jun 28, 2007 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Ichiro, he may well have said
amnesia, but his translator didn't know the English word for it, so he explained it instead.

by Llewdor on Jun 28, 2007 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im beginning to think that
I like listening to Dave Neihaus on the radio more then on the television.  Yeah, he still fucks up the flyball calls, but he is having a ton of fun with JJ Putz in the 9th innings.  His enthusiasm for Putz's striking out of Ortiz in the 9th was just awesome to listen to.

I always get the GameDay Radio thing so I can go back and listen to Dave on the radio side.  It'a amazing how different he can be over there when he's the one fully telling the story without visual interferences.

"Regression" is fat people speak for "don't touch my fucking cake, asshole."

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jun 28, 2007 1:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I had the radio on for that
Dave was so excited on that call that I didn't know what had happened until he finally recapped.
Free Adam Jones

by bluemax on Jun 28, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff
Francona did a swell job himself for a while there until the end, when a still inexplicably roidless Joel Pineiro showed up and promptly sent everyone home. Seriously, why not get him loaded again? Either he sneaks by and develops a fastball again or he gets caught and suspended, in which case your team loses nothing at all, because Pineiro's been horrible

I think they beat you to it.  Pitch sequence and velocity (according to Gameday):

Burke

  1. 92mph - foul
  2. 78mph - grounder to short
Ichiro
  1. 93mph - ball
  2. 92mph - strike
  3. 93mph - ball
  4. 93mph - ball
  5. 93mph - foul
  6. 92mph - ball
Lopez
  1. 92mph - ball
  2. 92mph - hilarious Manny Ramirez left fielder impersonation for the win.
Pretty consistent in the 92-93mph range.  I don't remember him doing more then touching 90mph for us last season.  Either he was amp'd to pitch against the M's, was genuinely "healthy", or someone oughta check his ass for new dimples.
"Regression" is fat people speak for "don't touch my fucking cake, asshole."

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jun 28, 2007 2:43 AM PDT reply actions  

That much?
Dude was 87-89 for us last year while starting.  I also recall us using him in the bullpen for a bit, and him not picking up much then either.

Joel when he was a "hot prospect" was throwing in the 92-94mph range, and we know why.

"Regression" is fat people speak for "don't touch my fucking cake, asshole."

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Jun 28, 2007 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

As I recall
he was throwing like that when he relieved for us a little bit last year. I don't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure.

Hot prospect Joel had a 92-94mph heater and sharp overhand curve out of the rotation. Roidless Joel has a 92-94mph heater and nothing else out of the pen.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 3:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe
this is actually turning into a good baseball team.   i really thought this lineup was going to suck, we'd be 10 games under .500 by now, Ichiro! would be prepping for pinstripes, etc etc etc.  so glad i was wrong.  

The The Angels Angels of Disneyland should piss themselves right about now.  

heart atttaaaack!!
heart attack M's!

by lemonverbena on Jun 28, 2007 7:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Fans too Nice?
I understand all the love for Griffey but what was up with the Fans giving Piniero a standing O as he walked off the mound yesterday?  

by Fan since Rupert Jones on Jun 28, 2007 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

that might of been a sarcastic standing O
like almost making fun of him by cheering.

Or at least I hope that's what it was, cause I don't want to think Joel was actually being supported.

by MFAN on Jun 28, 2007 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, my attempt at humor
I had a friend once who said it took him awhile before he started understanding my humor.

Piniero was walking off the mound after Lopez's double so the ovation was actually for Lopez and a great win.  But I'm sure there were some who were thanking Piniero for the nice pitch.

by Fan since Rupert Jones on Jun 28, 2007 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

hehe, my bad
knowing some Mariner fans, I wouldn't have been shocked if Joel did get an ovation, but yeah I still should of realized the joke.

by MFAN on Jun 28, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great game!
These were just 3 really exciting games. And now we are back in the race. Oakland lost a few so they are off our back by a game or two. And LAA got beat buy the strong hitting and pitching or the....ROYALS! Thank god. We needed that big time.

My vote for MVP of the bench has to be Jamie Burke. TRUE he hasn't done much. And he is the back up catcher. But he is doing a hell of a job. It seems like we are not at a disadvantage when he is up. True Kenji is much better...but he is just doing incredible i think. The double he got and scoring on Ichiro's hit and throwing out the baserunner. While i'm saying this i want you people to know i don't want him starting or anything.

OH almost forgot. To the guy who said to me, "True mariner fans know when to give up" SUCK IT! Just bend down and suck it. Suck it hard. Don't ever stop believing in your team THAT makes you not a true fan. Even if the team is horrible you look at the positive things for the NEXT year. You don't just give up on your team. So you dear sir can just SUCK IT!

Well like....thats just....your opinion...man.

by shunter160 on Jun 28, 2007 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

We at Royals Review
Are currently celebrating our sweep of the Angels. Consider it a favor to you guys since we felt we needed to apologize for taking "Gil Meche" and turning him into "Gil Meche: Good ML Starter." Do everyone a favor and exhort your Mariners to catch the Angels, please? So those gosh-darned Angels fans will shut up?

Anyway, Joel Pineiro's arm is made out of bubble gum. He's awful.

by NHZ @ Lookout Landing on Jun 28, 2007 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

We're all rooting for you guys to pass the
White Sox.
Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 28, 2007 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what its worth
I believe that this is the first time all year that the M's have past Oakland in playoff probability according to Cool Standings.

by Robert on Jun 28, 2007 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Jim Caple sucks
In his newest article, Caple tries to explain why the Yankees are an underdog, and that baseball fan's need to start rallying behind them.  What a sack of shit.  I don't understand how ANYONE can argue this.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/070627

by dlinsley on Jun 28, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

By the way
Ichiro just walked off the field instead of participating in the Lopez mob at second base. That was weird.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 28, 2007 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

He got mobbed at home
so I'm guessing he felt he met his quota and got out of there.

But yeah, Ichiro's always been weird and averse to walkoff celebrations.

by Gomez on Jun 28, 2007 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He kind of smiled and clapped
but then mysteriously just walked away from the mob, I think that's just partly the japanese way, they seem to be very reserved with their emotions when it comes to sports.  It still really scared me when i saw it though, I hope he still has some emotional attachment to this team.  

by Eldukey on Jun 28, 2007 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Especially since he scored the winning run.
Do they have walkoff celebrations in Japanese baseball?
Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 28, 2007 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

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