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It isn't that I don't still feel good for Jeff Weaver. I do. It's just that now last night is starting to make a little bit of sense.
Biggest Contribution: Felix Hernandez, +46.4%
Biggest Suckfest: Adrian Beltre, -4.9% Jose Vidro, -6.3%
Most Important At Bat: Lopez double, +15.1%
Most Important Pitch: McLouth strikeout, +9.6%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +49.6%
Total Contribution by Position Players: +0.3%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +0.1%
Ever since people identified Felix's pitch sequence issue last year when his struggles took us by surprise, everyone's been asking the same question: "how come it seems like Felix has to pay for his mistakes more than anyone else?" And it was a legitimate question, because it certainly seemed like he couldn't get away with anything. Every flat four-seamer over the middle of the plate went rocketing in the other direction. If sorry assclowns like Joel Pineiro and Julio Mateo can survive the occasional meatball, why can't Felix? How does that make any sense?
Thank goodness for the Pirates, enablers of a whole new kind of regression to the mean (to use the phrase of the month). Tonight wasn't Good Felix - tonight was Ordinary Felix against Bad Pittsburgh. Tonight was Felix surviving despite his mistakes for maybe the first time of his Major League career. And I'm not complaining. As I mentioned to Dave in an email around the seventh inning, I suppose it's better to be unimpressed by good results than unimpressed by bad ones.
If you only caught the box score, you probably think I'm crazy. Nine strikeouts against seven baserunners in eight innings easily goes down as one of the best-looking starts this team has had in a few years, the sort of thing that you'd think would indicate that Felix is on the way back. Surely tonight had to represent an improvement over the guy we've seen for the last several weeks since he came off the DL, right? Nobody goes from those numbers against Houston to these numbers against Pittsburgh without getting at least a little better, right?
Honestly, no, I don't really think so. As a way to get to that in a roundabout fashion, here's a side-by-side comparison of Enhanced Gameday screenshots for Felix's first innings on Opening Day and tonight. Is he as "back" as the eight shutout innings make it seem?
Opening Day, Felix's fastball spent most of its time at 98-99, occasionally reaching three figures. Tonight it was down at 95-96, scraping 97 but frequently dipping to 93-94 in the later innings. It's the same software in the same ballpark, so there aren't any consistency problems with the data. Clearly, Felix is missing a few miles. So there's clue #1 that he isn't the same pitcher he was. Clue #2 is that, while Felix only allowed a single ball out of the infield in his first start, tonight the outfielders got plenty of work. He's still a groundball pitcher even when he's at his worst, but the game against Oakland was Felix at his most dominant, and tonight wasn't even close.
Clue #3 is similar to clue #1, only broader: velocity aside, Felix's stuff is just worse now than it was in his first two starts. Or, perhaps more importantly, Felix's stuff tonight was just as underwhelming (by Felix's standards) as it was in Houston a few days ago. He isn't a guy on the comeback trail who suddenly made a lot of progress. He's a guy on the comeback trail who looked the same today as he did in most of his other games since coming off the DL. He just happened to run into a crummy opponent.
This is where it becomes important to understand the problems inherent in results-based analysis, at least as far as individual games are concerned. If you judge a pitcher by his final numbers, then what you're really doing is evaluating the total performance of the pitcher, the hitters, and (unless nobody put a ball in play) the defense. You can improve on that a little bit by focusing on things like strikeouts, walks, grounders, and homers, but still you're left blending the hitters with the pitcher, and that can skew your opinion. Over a few months or a full season, then yeah, by all means judge a guy by his statistics. But on an individual-game basis, doing that is just asking for trouble. The best way to evaluate a pitcher in a single game is by simply evaluating how well he actually pitches.
Which all finally brings us to tonight. And again, this wasn't so much Felix looking awesome as it was Felix getting away with mistakes thanks to the Pirates having a lousy lineup. To kick off, let's summarize what we saw from each individual pitch:
Four-seam fastball: straight, thrown a ton in the early innings (14/15 pitches in the first two frames, 19/22 in the first three), not exquisitely located but generally kept around the knees
Two-seam fastball: non-existent for a while, showed up in the later innings, sucked across the board except for one that went for a called strikeout, didn't have nearly as much movement as it did earlier in the year
Slider: flat, no bite, bad pitch two-thirds of the time it was thrown; the good ones were good, but the bad ones were meatballs
Changeup: flat, frequently overthrown, missed spots, safe for a batter to ignore as a possibility
Curveball: hammer, effective swing-and-miss pitch for most of the game, used to put people away instead of set them up, rarely put in the zone (presumably on purpose)
That's my report card for Felix's repertoire tonight, and while I don't pretend to be a professional, I'd like to think that I've watched him enough to get a pretty good idea of when his different pitches are working and when they aren't. And what we have in the end is that Felix struck out nine over eight shutout innings with one and a half pitches (plus curve and useful fastball). This is pretty much exactly what he's looked like since coming off the DL, as his two-seamer's gone by the wayside, his slider's lost its lethal bite, and his changeup's been hit or miss.
The newest theory (courtesy of Raffy Chaves) is that Felix isn't finishing his pitches properly, that he isn't getting a good follow-through and that it's having an effect on the break. This is something I can get behind, for two reasons:
- Follow-through makes or breaks a two-seamer or slider. I know for a fact that if you don't finish, you don't get the desired sharp movement.
- If Felix isn't finishing properly, that seems to go along with the idea that he's still pitching tentatively, and that he's trying to protect his arm as soon as he lets go of the ball. If you're afraid to re-injure your elbow, you're going to be cautious letting your throwing arm get full extension away from your body, so if Felix is trying to compensate, that makes some sense here.
So why did Felix have so much more success tonight than he did in Houston, if he was throwing the same stuff? Thank Pittsburgh. The Pirate batting order did everything in its power to hack away, and it just doesn't have enough good hitters to make that an effective approach. Go through the Enhanced Gameday pitch by pitch and look at all the fastballs out of the zone that the Pirates put in play early on. Arguably Felix's biggest problem has been coming back over the plate with flat predictable fastballs when he's behind in the count, but the Pirates never let him get that far, swinging at a lot of bad pitches early and bailing him out as he again did his damndest to 'establish the fastball'.
Even later on, when Felix started mixing in more breaking/offspeed stuff (as he does in all of his starts; it's a really weird pattern he has), Pittsburgh still helped him out. I give Felix all the credit in the world for those low-inside curveballs he used to strike out left-handed hitters; those are dynamite, unhittable pitches. But I don't think there's any arguing that a better offense would've given Felix a ton of trouble in the top of the fifth. I won't go into crazy detail, but of all the helpful at bats Pittsburgh provided for Felix over the course of the night, none was as courteous as Jose Bautista's with men on the corners, when he watched a 2-0 slider over the middle of the plate and then watched a 3-1 four-seamer at the belt. Bautista would end up walking, but a competent hitter makes that encounter significantly more painful. In short, I don't think there are many lineups that let Felix get out of the fifth without allowing any runs.
The help continued for the next few innings, as Felix came out throwing an uglier fastball after having to sit for a while during the Mariners' three-run fifth. It looked like he was trying to throw a bunch of two-seamers, as a lot of his fastballs suddenly had a little more sink and a little less velocity, but with rare exception, they weren't good pitches. Except for the one he used to strike out Ryan Doumit, which was totally awesome. The Felix we saw in innings 6-8 was visually even less impressive than the Felix we saw in the fifth, but thanks to a weak lineup and a great final at bat against Adam LaRoche to end the eighth, no damage was done, and Felix got to walk off a mound feeling successful and confident for the first time in months, even if he didn't have all his stuff.
I was happy to see Felix's energetic reaction to that final strikeout, and I was thrilled when JJ Putz sealed the win, but I'm more pleased with the ends than the means. Felix was due to catch a break eventually, as he couldn't keep having people hit every single one of his mistakes forever, but that doesn't mean I feel any better about him now than I did a day ago. Even with the terrific results, I just didn't see any indication tonight that this kind of statistical performance is about to become the norm. Maybe Felix just needed this jolt of confidence to get on a roll (it certainly couldn't hurt), but as long as he's satisfied with how he threw tonight, I'm going to live in fear that a better lineup will do to him again what Houston did last week, and that we'll end up right back in square one.
This whole thing probably sounds silly. What kind of nutjob is even the slightest bit unimpressed by eight shutout innings with nine strikeouts, especially after declaring his happiness following a worse performance the day before? I dunno. Maybe I'm making too big a deal of this. But I hold Felix to high standards. More than anything in the world I want to have as much confidence in him as I did after that game in Boston, and you better believe that as soon as he flashes that ability again I'll be right there at the front of the charge to get him back on his throne. Tonight, though, I didn't see it. Tonight I saw a bad lineup make a decent pitcher look great, when what I'm waiting to see is for a great pitcher to make a decent lineup look bad.
His next start'll come against those same Red Sox that he embarrassed at home before an international audience. In that respect, I guess there'd be no better time for him to re-claim his crown. I've been wary of making too big a deal out of the last few Felix Days, but while this one still didn't achieve my high standards, the next one's got quite the setup. You've been gone long enough, Good Felix. It's time to come home.
Ryan Feierabend takes on Aaron Harang and the Reds tomorrow at 7:05pm.
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Pitch selection.
Sheffield, Ordonez, Guillen etc. No hitter in the Pittsburg lineup approaches any of those three guys, and even Polanco, Granderson & Ivan Rodriguez aren't going to overthink and wait for a curve ball when they're given a feast of fastballs that aren't moving enough and that they could hit even if they were, given that they knew what pitch was coming (and in the first three innings they certainly ought to).
by Celadus on Jun 22, 2007 1:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Bay?
by Mariner John on Jun 23, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boston could eat him alive
I know it's a lame argument. I actually only half-heartedly believe it myself. But there's nothing I want to see more than for Felix to reach in and pull out a little something extra against the Sox.
by Mere Tantalisers on Jun 22, 2007 6:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does his 4 seamer just have a ton of tail
I could of sworn that most of the time he was throwing his 2 seamer even at 96
by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 22, 2007 7:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Felix making out with his invisible friend?
by Slozbury Stouvre on Jun 22, 2007 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.

by PositivePaul on Jun 22, 2007 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and in the spirit of the Flintstones
by Gomez on Jun 22, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be good....could be bad
The bad is that he thinks his not finishing his motion is just as effective as finishing the motino because he had a great start then....who knows what will happen then.
Though, if there is problem with his follow through then why don't they fix it? If it makes his pitches from above average to just mediocre then you have to figure out a way to fix it.
by shunter160 on Jun 22, 2007 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They're aware of the follow-through thing.
Also, as much as people are worried about it, I'm not buying that this start will lead to Felix developing bad habits. He has to know that his slider, two-seamer, and changeup just aren't working right now, and that he's a better pitcher when they are. When those pitches come back, I think this start'll end up a distant memory in his head.
by Jeff on Jun 22, 2007 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm skeptical...
"We were able to get that strike one, especially with the fastball," Mariners catcher Kenji Johjima said. "And then we could attack these hitters with his best stuff. Not like going ball, ball and then using the breaking ball and giving up a base hit. Today, he was able to get these guys out with his best pitches."
"I said probably two starts ago that Felix just has to get his rhythm back and that's what I meant by that," Hargrove said. "And he certainly did a lot better job of that this outing."
I don't think Felix is as self-aware as you give him credit for.
by sammy on Jun 22, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still not *that* concerned.
Still though, man, you sure would like to see a better quote, wouldn't you?
by Jeff on Jun 22, 2007 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff Jeff
by Trent on Jun 22, 2007 8:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't hurt...
by DKulich44 on Jun 22, 2007 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Writeup
Now I'm not saying the gear has been recalibrated or anything like that or that the data is wrong, but I'd like to see a comparison of other players that pitched the opening series vs. their readings in this homestand to see if there is a noticeable difference in velocity and movement of their pitches now vs. opening day. That way you can eliminate software and hardware recalibration from the equation.
by MfaninAlaska on Jun 22, 2007 8:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good idea.
by Jeff on Jun 22, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speeds are pretty close
by MfaninAlaska on Jun 22, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't know what's up with that.
by Jeff on Jun 22, 2007 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other thing to consider
What was his velocity like in innings 3-5 on opening day vs. 3-5 in his last start. Was all the hoopla of the season getting underway an early season factor with added adrenalin?
by MfaninAlaska on Jun 22, 2007 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I considered that.
by Jeff on Jun 22, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is PFX anyway?
by Mariner John on Jun 23, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff I think you Nailed it with this
If Felix isn't finishing properly, that seems to go along with the idea that he's still pitching tentatively, and that he's trying to protect his arm as soon as he lets go of the ball. If you're afraid to re-injure your elbow, you're going to be cautious letting your throwing arm get full extension away from your body, so if Felix is trying to compensate, that makes some sense here.
Not that I'm any kind of expert, but it seems The "King" has lost the movement and snap. I would bet that part of this has to do with two things:
- He is trying to take it easy on the four arm while on the mound.
- The few weeks he rested the four arm weakend the system
by InSpokane on Jun 22, 2007 8:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Something happened
The M's say he is not hurt and Felix doesn't mention it. but come on it obvious something is wrong. After 2 games against 2 good teams he looked like a sure Cy Young winner. Since coming back form his injury he hasn't been close. I know Baker compared Felix to Halladay and how long it took him to firgure it out and I'm sure youth and experience has something to do with it.
My guess is like many others here is that he is afraid or not mature enough to know how to comeback from the injury. Seriously whether consciuosly or not he must be worried if he finishes off his picthes like he should he'll blow out his elbow. Nothing else seems to make sense.
by Fan since Rupert Jones on Jun 22, 2007 9:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
FWIW, his velocity was at 96-97 after hanging at 93-95 after coming back. Some of that could be the Safeco gun, sure, but still.
by Gomez on Jun 22, 2007 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on Felix's post-game comments
Felix also seems to desire getting into the 8th or 9th inning more than anything so anyway that gets him there the fastest he'll take. Which means he's gonna try to get away with pumping fastballs as much as possible.
And of course there's the fact that Felix is still 21 years old.
by ThundaPC on Jun 22, 2007 9:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not the worst strategy
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inside joke?
by Todd S on Jun 22, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you believe the follow through argument
Or it might be something totally different. But that's one idea.
by Jeff on Jun 22, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Gil Meche
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Fairly was RIGHT!
by Llewdor on Jun 22, 2007 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of flukey pitching performances
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitch location
He needs to be more aggressive and back guys off the plate more, which would set up his changeup and curveball away better.
He also is throwing too many breaking pitches. What's frightening is he's reminding me more of a young Freddy Garcia than a dominant staff ace.
Just my $0.02.
by overmanb on Jun 22, 2007 12:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a couple
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
by overmanb on Jun 22, 2007 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Mock/Parody the wise words of David Peel
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OK
by chrisisasavage on Jun 22, 2007 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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