6/12: Open Game Thread

Ichiro CF Soriano LF Lopez 2B Pagan CF Guillen RF Lee 1B Ibanez LF Barrett C Sexson 1B DeRosa 3B Johjima C Murton RF Beltre 3B Theriot 2B Betancourt SS Izturis SS Washburn P Hill P ---------- ----------
Washburn (5-5, 3.94) Hill (5-4, 2.71)
A few hours ago while sitting in the backyard I found myself really looking forward to this series. I thought, "hey, maybe there's something to this whole interleague thing after all." When else would I get to watch a game in Wrigley Field with a rooting interest? When else would I have the opportunity to watch Rich Hill and Ichiro, two of my favorite players in baseball, square off in a meaningful encounter? When else would I have the chance to maybe watch the Mariners on WGN and not have to deal with the painfully insufferable Hawk Harrelson?
Then I thought, "oh wait, no, it's because the Cubs are bad." Of course!
DEFENSE WATCH:
Mariners: -21 groundballs, -8 flyballs, -29 overall (sixth-worst in MLB)
Cubs: +3 groundballs, +18 flyballs, +21 overall (tied sixth-best in MLB)
(Numbers taken from THT, which calculates them based on expected outcomes from each team's balls in play. It's not a straight measure of defensive efficiency; it takes line drives and grounders and fly balls into account, meaning if a team's pitching staff is giving up a lot of screamers, they won't penalize the defense for it.)
LET'S GO MARINERS!!
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Umm
Yeah, well
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Pylons
I must be old.
Don't call me Shirley.
Two Things
- I attended the Cubs' first visit to Safeco back in 2002. Prior pitched a shutout, and the Cubs won on a Sammy Sosa 3-run HR. I was convinced that this would be an important memory for me, having just seen what are sure to be two future HOFers performing. How times have changed.
- Browsing Bleed Cubbie Blue this morning, it looks like Cub fans are also looking forward to this series. They see us as a bad team, and they're hoping to go a combined 5-1 against us and Texas. Grrr.
I dunno, I just read through their game thread,
The comments I saw were all from
"... their expected pitching rotation for the series (Washburn, Batista, Weaver) isn't that intimidating."
"We get the Mariners, without the King, and Texas. That is six games, and we our out five and a half. My prediction is we go 5 and 1, they go 2 and 4. We should be 2 and a half out by the end of the weekend."
You're right, though. The M's/Cubs game thread isn't bad.
Stats!
The Mariners currently have an AB/BB ratio of 14.63. This is also the highest in the league (average is 10.35).
It probably comes as no surprise that their P/PA is the lowest in baseball.
Uh oh
I can't quit laughing about
Imagine us vs. Victor Zambrano
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing we don't get Carlos
Remember the Mayor of Cincinnati
by Manzanillos Cup on Jun 12, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
teehee
Holy crap...
Sweet Lou's 2002 won 93 games and got THIRD in the AL West, while the winner of this year's NL Central will probably only need a winning record.
Eventually
Prince Fielder can F-in rake!!
By the way
I plan on having flu-like symptoms tomorrow...
Flu- flu?
First he as snu-snu'd by the large women,
Oh wait, you said flu-flu....
Lemonade all over the computer...thanks
Please deal with it better than Washburn did.
by Mariner John on Jun 12, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi All
Well if we lose tonight then you know.
I like your sig.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Rich Hill
Groundballs: 75
Line Drives: 40
Walks: 25
Strikeouts: 74
I hope the wind's blowing out of Wrigley today... oh wait, Washburn's pitching. I hope, if the wind's blowing out of Wrigley today, that Hill sucks more than Washburn.
Washburn
Groundballs: 111
Line Drives: 39
Walks: 20
Strikeouts: 40
Even given he's made an extra start or two, I'd have to give the edge to Wash.
My tRA numbers agree with you
Hill: 4.30 tR/9
Of course, when you adjust for regression to the mean, Hill looks much better.
by Graham MacAree on Jun 12, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
While I like the Cubs
Guy 1: It's going to be tough to establish football around here. Chicago's a baseball town.
Guy 2: We need to prove to these people that football is just as good as baseball, if not better. That we're going to be bigger than the Cubs.
Guy 1: The Bears.
Guy 2: Awesome.
Also...
No it's not.
Nuff said.
Anaheim Mighty Ducks
Or the Georgetown Hoyas. Which in Latin means the Georgetown What.
LA Lakers is pretty bad too...
The NBA is full of bad team names that have no relation to their cities actually.
Memphis Grizzlies
Originally the Vancouver Grizzlies,
Right.
Actually I kinda like Memphis Blues.
I'd buy that jersey!
Although both the Lakers and Jazz
Good point, New Orleans Jazz makes perfect
But some don't have to make sense as far as species location. Bears, Bengals, Lions, Raptors... They're just powerful animals people named a team after.
Now Cubs I don't get. That would be like being the Kitties or something. Why name your team after a baby animal?
I can't believe somebody actually did it...
The Chiefs don't totally suck.
It's been a few years
by G_ on Jun 12, 2007 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And great BBQ from what I understand.
It's supposed to be becasue of the Negro League
by Mariner John on Jun 12, 2007 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there is some kind of link between the two
They totally realise that.
The next NFL expansion team will be the Chubby Chasers.
Oh fudge.
They should
Biggest LF HR At Wrigley
Raul's sudden resurgence
That's all it took. Those few games and he's instantly ahead of all the non-Japanese players.
LOL @ Bleedcubbieblue
wow, went over to lookout landing to
have a look at what the mariners fans are up to, and they really expect to roll into wrigley, hit a bunch of homeruns, and beat up on the cubbies.
i guess they didn't look at hill's era, and i guess they haven't seen his curveball. i mean, it is the cubs, so they're right, but this cubs team has the ability to dominate anybody in the league, assuming they don't beat themselves.
i think those m fans might get a surprise tonight.
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.
by buckmulligan on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 5:44 PM CT
Hey dude, You are in the NL. We might as well be playing the Iowa Cubs
He did say
He just forgot which league he was facing.
Even if it is the NL
Or the, uh...
Uh.
by PositivePaul on Jun 12, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They're mistaken
by Graham MacAree on Jun 12, 2007 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
DeSalvo...jeebus that was painful
LALALALALALALALALAALALALAAA!
My sister is an Angels fan.
Or should I take the other route and send her gift certificates to Omaha Steaks, get her a Showtime Rotisserie, and other meat related gifts? (she is a Vegan)
Buy her this tshirt
Meat is Murder
Tasty Tasty Murder
Ha
Threadless rules. But it's a Chicago company, so let's hold off on any more praise until the end of the week.
Lineups
Soriano LF
Pagan CF
Lee 1B
Barrett C
DeRosa 3B
Murton RF
Theriot 2B
Izturis SS
Hill P
MARINERS
Ichiro CF
Lopez 2B
Guillen RF
Ibanez LF
Sexson 1B
Johjima C
Beltre 3B
Betancourt SS
Washburn P
Hello, all. Dropping by to say hello.
I'm sure you've talked about this to death, but how much longer before Sexson's bat is fully awake? No, that isn't a ribald metaphor.
I do hope the Cubbies win tonight, but I'm firmly in the camp that the M's will give the Cubs a series, and it should be fun to see Ichiro by the Ivy.
Good luck.
BTW -- you all are of much better humor than the BCB regulars -- we've been pretty sour much of this season.
by Nuke LaLoosh on Jun 12, 2007 4:07 PM PDT reply actions
That's what she..oh nevermind
As long as
Rose goes in the front Nuke.
The BCB guys seem to have noticed that the M's
If we were facing Mark Hendricksen I think you guys might have a chance.
He does throw that mysterious
Jobu help hit bendy things
Are you tryin' to say
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Julianna still work at the Cubby Bear?
by G_ on Jun 12, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the trouble with expectations.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So I'm benching Rich Hill on my fantasy team
by Slozbury Stouvre on Jun 12, 2007 4:20 PM PDT reply actions
I DIDN'T bench him
Jeff
Also Jeff, since I know you are a beer fan, go to the Goose Island pub outside Chicago. They are a micro-brewery. Get the beer called "312." It's fucking awesome.
Huh?
I suppose I could've been less ambiguous in my intro.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You did say you were sitting in your backyard,
I *wish* I had that kind of money.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
This is Addison. Doors open on the left at Addison
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I just rented an apartment
BUY MERCHANDISE FUCKERS!!
Also, I was gonna mention it sooner
can we get a screencap
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions
MLB 2K7 can be a retarded game.
HORRIBLE GAME
2K7 isn't awful.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I was playing with my friend
After playing in two MLB 2k7 leagues
MLB The Show is pretty sweet though. I'm addicted to RTTS. 6'10" Roy Hobbs is tearing it up for AAA Tacoma. He'll force Raul out yet.
Can you imagine the camera guy on that?
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
No Arimas =
Just hope all the routine flyballs to left don't get out.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
Guys, don't get too cocky.
Yeah, look what happened yesterday.
You're right
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Detroit winning 1-0 in the 5th.
I never thought that would drop
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:10 PM PDT reply actions
Neihaus
Whoa. Zambrano is scary!
I feel dumb.
Mariners draw a walk in the first
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, seriously.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Niehaus
I also think he secretly dislikes Dave Sims, but I have nothing to base that on.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:13 PM PDT reply actions
That was an odd move.
Oh, and throwing the ball away is cool by me, too.
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
Raul just got abused in that at bat.
Raul is so clueless vs. Lefties.
Hope he gives J-Wash the same Strikezone
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
Uh, what are you guys looking for?
I agree with Sexson
plate discipline
i'm so pissed, i rushed home thinking this game was on WGN... only to find American's Funkiest Aminals or some shit. mother fucker!
Alfonso Soriano. The most powerful leadoff man
Oh yeah?
For reals.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that just really makes me mad.
inconsistent strikezones
Well, this is a good start.
4 for Washburn, that is.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
6 pitches, 5 balls
by Graham MacAree on Jun 12, 2007 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a strike
FUCK THIS UMPIRE JUST LIKE LAST NIGHTS
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:22 PM PDT reply actions
Ump a little defensive about his zone.
Oooooooh
WTF how is that not a strike?
Washburn had to throw that down the middle.
Who is this Umpire
He was safe. I don't even think Kenji touched him.
Raul needs to sit against lefties.
Ugh...
by anky on Jun 12, 2007 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
Damn
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
You have all your they'retheirthere's in order
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad umpire or not
Well, Jarrod Washburn fucking sucks.
Eh
So far it's not going well though.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Just got on here
Not going well for my hatred of refs/umps.
Who do these Cubs think they are, the Mariners?
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 5:28 PM PDT reply actions
No, Dave.
by anky on Jun 12, 2007 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
He's apparently giving low strikes today
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
Uh, before saying there's no advertising
Remember the time
Awesome.
by anotherjeff on Jun 12, 2007 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
Can't blame the ump for all this.
Everything is up, up, up.
Well that was too close.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Jarrod should be out of this inning
Oh yeah, our SS rules your fucking mother
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
YuBet seems to be throwing more strikes
I think you just jinxed it.
he's back
I'd say: Yuni is (finally) back. That was awesome!
He has looked better
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear to God
Way to lead off, Joh
Hell yeah!
Keep it up
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha
by anky on Jun 12, 2007 5:38 PM PDT reply actions
Yes
Hill, meet the free swinging Mariner Massochists.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:38 PM PDT reply actions
Beltre wooo!
Haha, Free run!
You copycating bastard...
BALK!
Washburn - professional hitter
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions
I wonder if we can squeeze with Wash?
Oh sure,
Oh shit
Some managers don't like to do obvious
Good point.
Washburn saw 6 pitches.
by Slozbury Stouvre on Jun 12, 2007 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
That's a horrible approach to take against Hill
I think he was hoping for a walk
Damn
What's the point of having pitchers hit again?
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:47 PM PDT reply actions
to make NL hitters look better than they are?
by Susheel Ramasahayam on Jun 12, 2007 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
A quick easy inning might be nice
VERLANDER HAS A NO HITTER!
He's thrown 90 pitches
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
90 through 7 innings?
I doubt it
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a Marineresque inning right there
7-pitch inning.
Man, I feel old.
by Mike A on Jun 12, 2007 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
Guillen!
I think the slump is over.
Launched
Well, I bega fo-giv-a-ness please!
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
Woah.
I didn't know Ibanez eats murdered kittens.
And here I thought they'd stayed at...
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never been more attacted to a man
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
Nice
So yeh, Verlander still has a no hitter going into the 8th.
We swung at 7 out of 8 pitches that inning
by anky on Jun 12, 2007 5:53 PM PDT reply actions
Hmm
by Dylan @ Lookout Landing on Jun 12, 2007 5:53 PM PDT reply actions
Although Felix with a hatred for Angels isn't such
Maybe he can install his hate of the Angels in
A dialogue
Felix: Yeah.
Guillen: I love hitting fastballs a lot.
Felix: ...uh huh.
Guillen: Fastballs.
Felix:
Guillen: Hitting fastballs.
Felix:
Guillen: ...is fun.
Felix: ...so...what you're saying...
Guillen: ...yeah...
Felix: ...is that I should stop...
Guillen:
Felix: ...throwing...
Guillen: Almost there...
Felix: ...
Felix: ...I lost it.
Guillen: God you're hopeless.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
it would be nice if it was that easy
by mark s @ Lookout Landing on Jun 12, 2007 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeh
Of course.
Christ, what is with the cabana music this year?
This ump has it out for tall people.
What I wouldn't give to see...
I think it would bring a tear to my eye.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 5:58 PM PDT reply actions
Does the left-side of our infield
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
Wash has settled down.
Morrow, take notes.
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
Yes
Kenji is awesome.
So, I don't get it
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Got a DP to finish the inning
KJ!
Verlander
Pretty much
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
leading hitter against LHP
Maybe they should stop swinging at the curve...
Sims just mentioned the no hitter.
I thought Bet was gonna swing at that terrible
Can we not strand this runner?
WASHBURN!!
Oh no you didn't
Crazy.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 6:04 PM PDT reply actions
Oh damn!
Wash is back!
That Washburn hit
hahahha i love it.
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Washburn RBI!
I must say, I am impressed with Washburn at the
In a few mins
Hill's curveball
I think to jinx Verlander
by tworsandtwols on Jun 12, 2007 6:08 PM PDT reply actions
at work watching gameday
JARROD friggin' washburn - helping his own cause
ok - back to work. bye
VERLANDER HAS A NO HITTER!
It's 4-0
Yeah,
by Graham MacAree on Jun 12, 2007 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
What's with this bare hand shit?
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
Beltre doesn't need a glove.
rusty beltre looking better
it'd be cooler
by kbdub on Jun 12, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
It'd be even cooler than that
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Verlander coming up
Good luck with that.
So close to a no hitter...10 Ks so far, too...
Counsell goes down swinging...
What I wouldn't do for a Brewers GS...
Verlander
Come on JJ! Verlander so doesnt deserve this more than the King.
One more to go for Verlander
ibanez not looking good
2 down now.
He did it.
Congrats to Verlander.
I like Verlander
Congrats Justin!
No hitter and a 20 K game in the same day?
AL pitching has been incredible
What do you think it is?
And back to the Mariners.
Jesus, it's like you're reading my mind today.
We could do this all night.
Can we go outside of baseball?
You can stop any time now Washburn
Oh the Humanity!
by Mikhail on Jun 12, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions
Washburn
A GB might be nice right here.
Wow, how did that stay in the air?
Well that's another way to get the DP.
Quick Hill, shove his ass to the ground!
I like how everyone wrote them off
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
2 extreme groundballers going at it.
Angels losing
Go Griffey!
Griffey
Still a Mariner at heart.
Holy crap Adrian.
WGN
by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Jun 12, 2007 6:31 PM PDT reply actions
Cool...
by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Jun 12, 2007 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
that at-bat had it all
At least we're in first for the WC.
But if Detroit is tied for first
Then that is the most stupid
Too many factors in judging the WC
I want this team to win the division. The WC isn't something you should shoot for until September.
by mark s @ Lookout Landing on Jun 12, 2007 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
JJ stretching a bit.
I've seen Man o' Wars
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 6:33 PM PDT reply actions
Somewhere around 90.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
2 walks to that lum?
by TheMarinator on Jun 12, 2007 6:35 PM PDT reply actions
wash is wobbly tonight
I liked him better when he was consistent.
Fucking Verlander
by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Jun 12, 2007 6:37 PM PDT reply actions
Houston
Out by a mile.
FUCK!
Oh fuck says Kenji.
Think Washuburn can give us 1 more inning?
Hooray for straded base runners!
6 IP 2 ER
Lopez owes Kenji a steak dinner
our poor "rivals"
The Cardinals were much better
KC: 8
STL: 0
Their offense is terrible too. Even with Pujols.
Well this is fucking stupid.
Washburn is done. Yet another pitcher who can't
Um
by anky on Jun 12, 2007 6:42 PM PDT reply actions
weird decision to pull Washburn
Yeah, 94 pitches. Coulda made it longer I think.
He has defensive value
by JI on Jun 12, 2007 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ellison=useless
and it got us a DP!!!!
i revoke all the nice things i said about you today!
Are you shitting me?
by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Jun 12, 2007 6:44 PM PDT reply actions
Nice fucking pinch hit DP
by anky on Jun 12, 2007 6:44 PM PDT reply actions
Roped!
Washburn bunts the runner to 2nd, Ichiro double
Then you've got 2 on and 1 out.
Also
I'll repeat
Personally I would've left Washburn in to bunt, but if you're determined to pinch-hit, Ellison's your man.
I know for a PH, that was the guy.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes the problem was not
by dz on Jun 12, 2007 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Another effective, strike-throwing pitcher
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Marmol is deceiptive.
2 walks in one game for Lopez.
love the cubbie pull pen
poor lou.
Lopez walk?
Guillen
It might've helped this time.
Late & close, yeah, so far
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If he's responsible for our one-run lead
We could use that extra ribbie.
Fuck looks like we will need
by dz on Jun 12, 2007 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
Good lord, Guillen
Fuck looks like we will need
by dz on Jun 12, 2007 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
I'm OK with them
by dz on Jun 12, 2007 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
hey the A's and Angels are down by a run!
by mark s @ Lookout Landing on Jun 12, 2007 6:54 PM PDT reply actions
theyre going to take the lead and we get to listen
by kbdub on Jun 12, 2007 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
Uh oh...
YES!
Yeah know, I'm really starting to get some
I wonder how they'd treat that guy in Utah...
PICKLER = People In Crappy...um...
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 12, 2007 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
PICKLER
Insist that
Crap spews from
Kelly's
Largely in-
Efficient
Rectum
It's potty humor, and a stretch, but it's the best I can do.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 12, 2007 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
keane
Can JJ pitch today?
dave sims says yes
out of the baseline?
I, for one, wish they would show her
by bpdawg24 on Jun 12, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions
High strikeout rate, high groundball rate.
Lead off single!
Oh, wait... Fuck.
Kelly Pickler reminds me why
Thanks for bringing it into my baseball world, though. Really.
I thought I was the only one.
Let Green pitch the 8th.
Richie, you can stop sucking anytime now.
Leave Green out
by dz on Jun 12, 2007 7:04 PM PDT reply actions
Why did they lift Washburn?
by Susheel Ramasahayam on Jun 12, 2007 7:04 PM PDT reply actions
Wow, I missed Pick Pickler???
Mmmm.
HELL YES
Now let's get a run. Extra innings are bad news for us right now.

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