6/11: Open Game Thread, Part 2

i'm glad he hit the cutoff though. and I'm sure as hell glad that yuni didn't airmail it. i like the kid, but my heart stops whenever he gets the ball.

by Astrobiology on Jun 11, 2007 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I hate plays at the plate

because I never know quite how to divvy up the credit. This is why at the end of the year I just provide the offensive WPA and ignore the defensive stuff.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 11, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

How come

Kenji doesn't get any credit??? He had to catch the ball and put the tag on.

Go M's

by OBF on Jun 11, 2007 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions

It was a pretty easy play for him to make.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 11, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions

How much WPA did he get?

2-4 but should have been 2-3 with a sac fly.

Top 5 Greatest Players ever: 1. Josh Gibson 2. Cool Papa Bell 3. Babe Ruth 4. Matty 5. Ty Cobb

by Coach Owens on Jun 11, 2007 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions

2-5.

Whoops.

Top 5 Greatest Players ever: 1. Josh Gibson 2. Cool Papa Bell 3. Babe Ruth 4. Matty 5. Ty Cobb

by Coach Owens on Jun 11, 2007 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions

since we just played the Indians

I think this is a good time to say..Thank You Bill Bavasi, you've been given a lot of crap this season (a lot of it from me!), but you've put a team on the field that is 34-26 and on pace for 92 wins. I still don't like a lot of your moves (Vidro, Snelling, Ho) but I think your a lot better than a lot of the non-knowledgeable fans give you credit for.

Am I a big Bavasi fan??...No, but I truly believe he has done a lot of good for this organization. If he was just a tad better at evaluating Major League talent he would be a darn good GM.

Broussard for 1st...and LF

by MFAN on Jun 11, 2007 7:51 PM PDT reply actions

oh and by

non-Knowledgeable fans, I'm not referring to anyone here, more to the people that comment on the PI blog and what not.

Broussard for 1st...and LF

by MFAN on Jun 11, 2007 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions

What about if we still had

Rafael Soriano...this bullpen would be a lot better.......so no credit goes to Bavasi..that bastard (I did like, and still do like, the Jose Guillen signing)

by kentroyals5 on Jun 11, 2007 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions

oh I agree

I don't like a lot of his moves, and in the end I still want him gone.

It seems like he's always getting bagged on, so i was trying to step outside the box and defend him.

Broussard for 1st...and LF

by MFAN on Jun 11, 2007 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Mariners lead story on Sportscenter right now

Talking about how the M's are playing well and are serious playoff contenders. Woot for national recognition!

by phil333 on Jun 11, 2007 8:05 PM PDT reply actions

Heh...

Well, it's not like we were up against much else in the world of sports today.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 11, 2007 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Enjoy it while you can

Mets-Dodgers in progress and it's pretty close: 4-3 in the bottom 6th.

by Gomez on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Speaking of other action

It appears Zambrano was ON tonight against the Astros... oh wait, it's the Astros. STILL, he wasn't walking a bunch of guys.

by Gomez on Jun 11, 2007 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Holy shit. Looks like I missed a hell of 2nd half

to this game. Wow, they almost duplicated that 2001 debacle.

But we won. Holy jumping jesus we won again. Here come the Seattle Freaking Mariners!

Suck it Byrd. You went from an almost no-no to getting your ass handed to you. Awesome. And suck it Jay.

RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL is back baby! Now we just need Richie to get back, and this offense will be lethal!

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 11, 2007 9:04 PM PDT reply actions

Oh and BTW

First 1000+ thread of the year! WOOOOOOO!

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 11, 2007 9:05 PM PDT reply actions

opening day hit like 1200

by Matthew on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Raul?

Holy crap. Watching this game on TiVo was nerve-wracking.

Whoohoooo!!!!!

4 wins in a row.
4 straight 1-run games.
4 straight go-ahead leads in the 9th inning or later.

This team is like the exact opposite of last year.

by ThundaPC on Jun 11, 2007 9:06 PM PDT reply actions

Heh, HH is starting to look in the rearview mirror

to quote Rev:"I am officially beginning to worry..."

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 11, 2007 9:12 PM PDT reply actions

ESPN is taking notice

Nice. And yea, it would be nice if we can get better pitching from our starters (as they might kill our bullpen before we reach the finish line).

by ThundaPC on Jun 11, 2007 9:14 PM PDT reply actions

the sweetness of this victory

is tempered a bit by how absolutely BRUTAL it would've been for these guys to make this stooopid one-day Cleveland stopover and blow a 7 run lead.

ugh. would have been a very serious downer.

by lemonverbena on Jun 11, 2007 9:17 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, the bullpen is going to explode if we don't

starting getting guys into the 7th inning consistently. Especially since we've been playing constantly for a while now.

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 11, 2007 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Hmm...looking closer at Raul...

his contact seems the same:

.299/.350/.449 this year compared to .289/.353/.516 last year.

Contact is the same, Walk rate is about the same (on pace for around 60 like last year) and the doubles seem to be right in line or above pace from last year, triples as well. The homers is the only change from last year, so that's the only test, and with the way Raul is driving the ball now, it looks like he'll get back to himself. I hadn't realized how many 2B's and 3B's and how often he's been getting on base with his homer draught. Sure he's been underperforming, but has hasn't been a COMPLETE black hole. Maybe a grey hole. I don't know what the point of this post is or how to end it, so I just will. :o

by BrettJMiller on Jun 11, 2007 9:54 PM PDT reply actions

Raul

Ibanez reminds me of a bald Michael Keaton. Anyone else see the resemblance? Maybe it's just me..

In addition to going 18-for-18 in save opportunities, Putz is trying to bring a sense of unity and joyfulness in the Seattle clubhouse.

by appleshampoo on Jun 11, 2007 9:57 PM PDT reply actions

hmmm.....

RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!?!?!?!?!

Broussard for 1st...and LF

by MFAN on Jun 11, 2007 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions

yes, yes

It's that jawbone I think. Give Batman a soul patch there and it's the spitting image of Raul

In addition to going 18-for-18 in save opportunities, Putz is trying to bring a sense of unity and joyfulness in the Seattle clubhouse.

by appleshampoo on Jun 11, 2007 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I can see it

and since were talking Michael Keaton, how about this one.

RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!?!?!?!?!?

Broussard for 1st...and LF

by MFAN on Jun 12, 2007 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Beetlejuice is awesome.

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 12, 2007 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions

i should calm down with the photoshop

but its oh so fun

raul-man

by PShwa on Jun 12, 2007 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions

hahaha, it is Raul!!

Broussard for 1st...and LF

by MFAN on Jun 12, 2007 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions

golf clap

nicely done

In addition to going 18-for-18 in save opportunities, Putz is trying to bring a sense of unity and joyfulness in the Seattle clubhouse.

by appleshampoo on Jun 12, 2007 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Nah. Try this guy.

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!!!

Okay, this sig thing is sorta working: LEARN HOW TO THROW, YUUUUUUNIIIIIIIII!!!!

by PositivePaul on Jun 11, 2007 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions

holy crap I know someone who looks exactly

like that

by Matthew on Jun 11, 2007 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Raul?

by PShwa on Jun 12, 2007 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Hmm..it's rosterbation but...

After today's game I've decided we need Mark Buehrle, and NOW. This team is a quality SP and maybe a relief arm away from being the favorites to win the division.

etowncoug and I were talking, and got around to the fact that Scott Linebrink is available for offensive help too. Wlad for Linebrink, anyone? Then you can send a Clement/Morse/Butler/Cash package to CWS for Mark Buehrle.

I know ERA is a flawed statistic, but you can reasonably expect a 3.50 from Felix, 4.00 from Buehrle, 4.30 from Washburn, 4.50 from Batista, and 4.80 from Baek. Plus, replacing Jason Davis with a 2.50, 1K per inning reliever in Linebrink makes us immediate favorites. This also allows you to keep Adam Jones. Get it done, Bavasi.

by BrettJMiller on Jun 11, 2007 10:36 PM PDT reply actions

I'd rather nix the Linebrink deal

and hope Lowe is the answer for the RP.

I like Buehrle the idea, I don't like Buehrle the future free agent. I wouldn't give them Clement for him unless we got a window to get an extension signed and did.

by Matthew on Jun 11, 2007 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't think we really need another reliever.

The bullpen's going to be getting a lot of work, but there's enough depth between Seattle and Tacoma to keep people fresh, especially if Mark Lowe comes back looking anywhere close to how he looked last summer. Adding a starter should far and away be the front office's primary objective.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 11, 2007 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

I like the idea

And I wouldn't be completely against that, but I'd like to take a look at Matt Belisle before handing over so much talent for Buehrle.

Take a look at their periphials...

MBu -- 6.5 K/G, 2.0 BB/G, 3.25 K/BB, 1.21 G/F
MBe -- 6.1 K/B, 1.8 BB/G, 3.44 K/BB, 1.13 G/F

Very, very similar, and although Buehrle's should be taken more seriously because of the track record and his being in the AL -- and him being a lefty at our park is certainly a plus -- but Belisle makes much less money, is under club control much longer, and probably takes less talent to acquire.

On top of that, the Reds are in even more of a rut right now, so they might be more willing to throw in the towel for this season.

Felix, you magnificent bastard.

by Double06 on Jun 11, 2007 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Also, if Milwaukee gets tired of Dave Bush

I wouldn't mind trying to take a stab at him in the rotation. Good peripherals, but so far for some reason he hasn't done so well in the ERA department.

Felix, you magnificent bastard.

by Double06 on Jun 11, 2007 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions

I've been championing Bush since the offseason.

Protect the enviroment, or I'll FUCKING KILL YOU! CAPTAAAAAIIIINNNN PLANNNNET! ~Ted Turner

by Goose on Jun 11, 2007 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions

He sure as hell beats Ramirez or Weaver, huh.

Felix, you magnificent bastard.

by Double06 on Jun 12, 2007 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Pitching in Toronto and Milwaukee didn't help

Somewhat friendly confines for hitters, in divisions with big time sluggers. Bush would not face as much in the AL West.

by Gomez on Jun 11, 2007 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions

GODDAMNIT

I just realized why Raul did so well today.

It's because the dude I'm facing in my fantasy league has him.

I'm thinking "Where did this guy get so many TB/RBI so fast...?" and then I'm like "OH HI RAUL WASSUP?"

Oh well, still a fun game. I only got to see a little bit of on TV, though, and not the part where Cleveland scored a whole bunch of runs off Cha Smiley.

by Deanna on Jun 11, 2007 10:41 PM PDT reply actions