Joe Torre as replacement for Hargrove?

by manyoso on Apr 30, 2007 2:01 PM PDT Comment 23 comments

The Yankees pitching sucks. Joe Torre just inked a new contract, but I think it is at least possible that Torre's head will be on the block before long if the Yanks can't get out of the cellar. Just look at how Steinbrenner is reacting now. You can't blame A-Rod. They won't blame Jeter. I can see Torre becoming the scapegoat for the highest paid team in baseball sinking to the bottom over the course of the season.

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Torre for Hargrove?

Yes.

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No.

15 votes

Pie.

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I don't want Torre managing the Ms

I don't think he's much better than Grover. He just looks way better b/c he has talent on the team.

by Matthew on Apr 30, 2007 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yah, but at least he has won

...with his talent. Remember, Hargrove had talent too. Look where that got him.

by manyoso on Apr 30, 2007 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hargrove won when he had talent

See: 1995-1999 Indians. They won exactly as many World Series as the Yankees have from 2001-2007, and made just as many appearances.

by eponymous coward on Apr 30, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, but look at baltimore

by manyoso on Apr 30, 2007 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotta agree with ec here

Their capable but suspect pitching was the primary culprit. A monkey could have managed that team to 95 wins and an ALCS.

Managers don't help teams too much but bad managers can certainly hurt them. Just about anyone younger than Dusty Baker with a working brain can probably do better than Hargrove.

by Gomez on Apr 30, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Torre is great

At sitting back and letting his team do all the work.

Also, I would rather have pie.

by Gomez on Apr 30, 2007 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Why would Torre come here?

by eponymous coward on Apr 30, 2007 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

PAT BORDERS FOR MANAGER!!!

No, I'm serious. Shut up.

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by Deanna on Apr 30, 2007 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You can't have a manager who naps all day.

by Slozbury Stouvre on Apr 30, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We already do

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 30, 2007 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we have Moyer

For a pitching coach too?

by Graham on Apr 30, 2007 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moyer could manage

trade for him and bring back the player-manager.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 30, 2007 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really like the concept of a player-manager

but I'm afraid its probably gone forever.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 30, 2007 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

they have one in Japan currently

Atsuya Furuta, manager of the Yakult Swallows, but he's not gotten all that much playing time since becoming manager.

on the other hand, IceX can tell you about how awesome "daida, ore" is ("pinch-hitting, me"). Yakult even printed up a series of stuff that says "Time! A pinch-hitter is me." in English, which is just plain funny.

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by Deanna on Apr 30, 2007 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I totally agree with that

and Dan Wilson for bench coach.
Edgar Martinez for hitting coach
Jay Buhner for first base coach

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 30, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't the Tigers try that basic approach?

Basically hire all of the heros from your past, to try to catch the "mojo" from a winning team?

"Dammit monster, I ain't givin you no treefiddy!"

by Thingray on Apr 30, 2007 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no, that's not what I meant.

I was actually serious about thinking that Pat Borders would make a good manager. Not as a former Mariners player, but just as a former catcher and all-around-good-guy baseball-dude who knows the game.

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by Deanna on Apr 30, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was responding more to the idea of

Edgar for hitting coach
Jay Buhnner for 1st base coach
etc., etc.

I always thought Pat Borders had a very high baseball IQ, but he'd need to spend some time in the minors gaining experience before I'd be comfortable handing him the Mariner's job.

"Dammit monster, I ain't givin you no treefiddy!"

by Thingray on Apr 30, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs