4/25: Open Game Thread

Ichiro CF Stewart LF Beltre 3B Ellis 2B Vidro "DH" Chavez 3B Ibanez LF Piazza DH Sexson 1B Crosby SS Guillen RF Johnson 1B Johjima C Buck RF Betancourt SS Kendall C Lopez 2B Putnam CF ---------- ----------
Washburn (0-2, 4.42) Cupcakes (2-0, 4.13)
I was trying to think of something funny to put here until I realized that Jose Vidro only has two extra-base hits this year as our everyday DH, and tha-...oh wait, that counts.
LET'S GO MARINERS!!
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Happy Washburn day?
Speaking of the DH
Piazza .260/.321/.377 .698
Vidro .286/.328/.381 .709
Hillenbrand .212/.226/.212 .438
Sosa .244/.306/.489 .795
Our DH is crappy, but he's got the highest BA, OBP and is second in slugging out of the regular DH's in the west....
So basically, our DH is crappy but not as crappy as everyone else's.....
How much nicer
This is why I say I'd trade Ichiro in a heartbeat for someone who actually could produce some runs for this team. You plug a legit No. 3 hitter in this lineup and it becomes WAY better by extension.
by Jeff Nusser on Apr 25, 2007 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Ichiro RC/G:
In other words, no.
And Vidro in the two hole would still suck, because, well, those are terrible numbers for any spot in the lineup, let alone DH.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure where you got those numbers
He's No. 100 on the active career list. He also does not have one single season in his career that is even close to ranking on the top 100 run creating years of all time.
by Jeff Nusser on Apr 25, 2007 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
All of whom
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
OK
By the way, it's still well behind elite, middle of the order producers.
by Jeff Nusser on Apr 25, 2007 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Nevermind
by Jeff Nusser on Apr 25, 2007 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
An RC/G of 8.4 is crazy good.
Ichiro is also a sublimely good defender, which adds even more value. Basically he's the best offensive player on the team, and replacing his production with an elite bat wouldn't actually help us any due to the massive hit we take in defense pretty much cancelling out the modest increase in run production.
There is one fantastic, cheap way of making this lineup better. Observe:
Ichiro!
Beltre
Ibanez
Sexson
Guillen
Broussard
Johjima
Lopez
Betancourt
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
His current rate
But I agree that the defensive element isn't something you necessarily can undervalue. It's just hard to quantify what kind of contribution that makes to the team. It's certainly got to be more now that he's playing CF.
I wasn't saying
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Go find me some Gold Glovers playing CF
Oh, and while I'm at it, don't forget to adjust whoever you get for playing half their games in a crappy park if we bring them to Safeco.
Seriously. Ichiro's not the problem here. The problem is using a craptastic DH and the waste of space Guillen's been in RF so far.
by eponymous coward on Apr 25, 2007 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
When did Carlos Lee
by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 25, 2007 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
while this isn't in defense of Vidro
out of the regulars Vidro is
3rd in OBP..
he's 5th in Slg...
and 4th in OPS...
He may be a bad choice for DH, but right now he's not the big problem with this offense, plus he's really the only one on the team that regularly takes pitches.
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 25, 2007 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
What makes you think
If we had a manager who stressed patience
Beltre's cracking me up this year
Although I think that just supports the theory that he is just guessing what pitch is coming.
He does that all the time every year
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I didn't notice before this year.
By "get it together"
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
"Until the rest of the lineup gets..."
Jeff Pentland
Fire the Staypuft Hitting Coach.
My hatred of Vidro
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If it's Broussard you want
At least start platooning them or something, because Jose has not looked good.
Broussard isn't a right fielder
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
And David Ortiz can be a SS
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
a little extreme there
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 25, 2007 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Not Sure terrible is appropriate
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 25, 2007 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
To Expand on the offenses
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 25, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Using Gross Production Average
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh-ohs
by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 11:31 AM PDT reply actions
J-Rod vs. Cupcakes again :)
are you responsible for
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 25, 2007 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
At least
Yep
and remember the 05-06 off-season
wouldn't he look better in the rotation right now than most everyone else we're trotting out there????
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 25, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Not necessarily...
by PositivePaul on Apr 25, 2007 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember when jeremy reed...
Not exactly
(Although, yeah, in hindsight, who wouldn't have done an Arroyo trade, eh?)
I know what you mean about Reed's trade value decline, though. Talk about a freefall...
That's how I remember it, too.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 25, 2007 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Lesson learned:
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So why do we have a team full of hacker?
because
I've wanted to use that one for a while now, but didn't want to cause a stir cause its all done in jest......
by MfaninAlaska on Apr 25, 2007 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Bavasi mistakenly believed
Organizational philosophy.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
My fantasy team:
Troy Glaus: 15 Day DL
Ben Sheets: Pulled in the 3rd for a groin pull
Iwamura: 15 Day DL
Jason Jennings: 15 Day DL
ugh
LOL
...
My DL: Carpenter, Schmidt, BJ Ryan,
Not to mention that Mariano Rivera has zero saves on the year.
sigh.
heh
Still ~barely~ hanging onto first in both leagues by my fingernails, though due to insane early offensive performances. Thank you ARod, Reyes, Kinsler and Francouer(!)
I wish...
Anyway, I'm seriously running a Kingdome-era type team in both leagues: with Felix, Carpenter, and Moose out in one league and Moose, Schmidt, and now Sheets (apparently) having health issues in the other, I'm having to suffer along with Bedard and Burnett and their early season implosions... Offense (McCann, Tex, Reyes, Kinsler, Aramis, Abreu, Rios, Markakis, Francouer, Bay, and Thome for team #1 and McCann, Morneau, Hanley, O-Dawg, ARod, Beltran, Dunn, Alou, and Cuddyer for team #2) and second/third tier closers have been my saviors thus far.
Definitely sweating it this year, though. I've never actually finished anywhere but first in a fantasy baseball league, so there's more than a little pressure, there... :/
All hail Kinsler.
Holy coincidence.
I love that guy.
The A's are going to kick ass tonight
;_;
Visting A's fan.
Your main concern
by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 25, 2007 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Forget tesm - how about front office?
If we're lucky we'll get them both suspended for 3 years.
I can see it now
It pains me so to watch you guys run that team into the ground, even if you are a divisional rival.
Here is a gift for you. If you smack the Angels around I will make it a lifetime supply.
Love Billy

Playoff hockey >>> Mariner baseball
Seriously?
by braek462 on Apr 25, 2007 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw hockey
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Without an alternative
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No M's on TV tonight?
go Sabers!
Remember the day we thought
Yeah, my Prozac intake tripled that day.
Thats like ending up at the dentist
But
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason
by appleshampoo on Apr 25, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
CUPCAKES, DEVOURER OF WORLDS
It looks like Cupcakes
oh, right, the tongue girl
I prefer
by BrettJMiller on Apr 25, 2007 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe "Cake Walk" Blanton
Orioles/Red Sox comedy
Lugo starts arguing, time still not called, Cabrerra throws another pitch with Lugo still out of batters box. Strike 2.
Lugo argues, Francona comes out, ump says tough.
Next AB Lugo stays in batters box and doesn't play games.
The Umps' message is delivered.
They skipped his start.
McCarthy'll be back on the mound for the next turn.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok seriously...
by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Apr 25, 2007 6:06 PM PDT reply actions
So has anyone else noticed
I think that there were a lot more readers this
Yeah, we went from averaging like 150 comments
it's early
Actually
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
average game thread last season
Like a few days ago
Everytime I go
Oh you guys are so fucked now.
Perhaps its like the British "athletics"
I believe that
D-Backs losing, bah
Make it easier on yourself and follow
Of course, you'd become an asshole because all fans of those two teams are complaining assholes
A small white man.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Swisher
Mariners vs. Athletics
Ground Out
Fly Out
Fly Out
Bottom Inning:
Ground Out
Fly Out
Fly Out
The Mariners need to shuffle their rotation
So, I've figured this out.
Guillen is a former A's too
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't like teams he's played for.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you ready?
Then, for the thousands in attendance, and the millions watching at home....and for Mike Scocia, who is the whinest little bitch I have ever met.
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET's GET READY TO SUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
Damn you Jake Peavy.
4.09 ERA last year.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta love
Guillen hates all teams starting with A
He looks like he could really have a big year
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for Bonds.
It's not like he's going to hold the record for more than a few years anyway.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I can only imagine
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it freaking early
Is there any truth to that??...or just my imagination.
THT is your friend
It's true.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Blah
A's...
Standard 24 y/o ex-collegiate draft pick.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They've done that for a while.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
hah-
Wait why did Ichiro go to first base
A leadoff Vidro
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
does this make Beltre
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 25, 2007 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a old joke
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
what do 4 balls equal?
...unless the Ms are involved.
Washburn
Plus no one would get it.
Kenny "Squeak" Scolari: If I make this next shot, you'll have to stop calling me Squeak.
Douglas "Swish" Reemer: Okay.
Kenny "Squeak" Scolari: Or bitch.
Douglas "Swish" Reemer: Or bitch.
Douglas "Swish" Reemer: Okay.
[Squeak throws the ball and misses]
Douglas "Swish" Reemer: Tough break, Squeak.
Joseph R. Cooper: Yeah, now you gotta fetch the ball, bitch.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Mariners/Baseketball???
WFB: Well this is pretty sweet. Does this couch fold out to a bed?
Ichiro: Yeah, a totally great bed. But that's Beltre's bed. Your bed's over here.
WFB: Dude, that is so fuckin' weak! How am I supposed to get a chick in that?!
Kenji: Oh, don't worry, dude. You couldn't get a chick if you had a hundred dollar bill hangin' out of your zipper.
WFB: ...Yeah I could.
Ichiro: No, dude. You're a little bitch.
WFB: I am not! I don't even know why I hang out with you guys.
Kenji: 'Cause you're a piece of shit.
WFB: I am not a piece of shit!
Ichiro: Well yeah, but you're a little bitch.
Kenji: Sure are.
Squeak: [frustrated] God-damnit man! I swear, you guys rip on me thirteen or fourteen more seasons, I'm out of here!
Ichiro: Yeah, whatever.
Heh.
It's the curse of #25
I think the Pirates finally sold all of their Casey shirts (and now have tons and tons of LaRoche shirts to get rid of).
LaRoche, Laird
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
John Lackey doesn't know
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
oh yeah
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 25, 2007 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Good
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, It's train-wreck television at its finest.
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Why? Who are they hurting
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah know, I wouldn't mind the show so much
washburn reminds me of me
Considering how well the pitchers are doing
I'd love to see Truimph the insult dog interview
My innocence was shattered last week
Mine was shattered
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Clean the sheets.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the players' reactions
Quentin wants to be a Mariner.
im actually a big
Yeah me too. He destroyed a Wells curveball
He'll be fine. So will the rest of that offense. They're young so I'm not that worried. Except for Tracy. He shouldn't be sucking. He's been on a downward trend.
Yanksox on Fox?
In a bold programming decision
I think Peter Gammons
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It's crazy to think
11 Ks through 5.
Quit bragging, Oakland broadcast guy.
So Felix will be pitching in NY May 4th-6th
But I'm not allowed to leave.
ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I think the A's might suck this year
Oh yes it is.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Is harden going to pitch this year?
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 25, 2007 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Harden and Felix are both hurt.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The only reason
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 25, 2007 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
True enough.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
What did he do?
God this team has horrifying facial hair.
Completely off topic
Hold the cursor over your name.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Its in the bottom left when you hover over
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2007 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We must not refer to me by my old name
So then does your name change
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2007 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I figured that it might confuse some people
I also realized that KnightOfKingK could be short for KKK and figured that needed fixing.
We get it Simms, the game is going by fast.
Washburn
by anotherjeff on Apr 25, 2007 8:13 PM PDT reply actions
This is a dramatic change from Gil Meche
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh look, 2 fans that haven't heard about
I don't think he's there yet.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
OH MY FICKING GOD
Weaver vs. Meche
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Wonder what the record is
He has been on fire.
I wish we could
One could argue
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
USSM's pregame post
Holy geez
lol
This game is rather unusual
Washburn has thrown 76 pitches in 7 innings, 52 pitches for strikes.
I remember it was the exact same
Too bad Peavy has 106 pitches
Franklin/Buehrle was 1:39.
If you can feel Ichiro Bobblehead mania
WOO HOO
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE TOSSED SALADS AND SCRAMBLED EGGS!!!!!!!!
Woo!
nice Yuni
Remember when
by BrettJMiller on Apr 25, 2007 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok I really need to stop watching this game
omg.
Wonder if their gonna push him a little more???
by MT on Apr 25, 2007 8:32 PM PDT reply actions
what?
by appleshampoo on Apr 25, 2007 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
impossible
Willie's already wearing his PJ's
They could always lseep in the clubhouse
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
why is there a football field
Good exchange:
Hitting ENTER doesn't work
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Your probably on HTML formatted
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2007 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Mariners get thrown out
I have to admit
it looked funny
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2007 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Why
by Dylan @ Lookout Landing on Apr 25, 2007 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I've got a
by JI on Apr 25, 2007 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Why hasn't ballsac pulled washburn yet?
I was at that game
Peavy taken out
He was starting to get a liitle wild anyways.
Remember when we wondered
...
...
Liars
but it seems like he has some reservations
by zachsullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not worried about his bat
by BrettJMiller on Apr 25, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you guys don't like Washburn
fine by me
He's really not.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Blanton
And he's losing.
....this does not compute.
Not sure I like this.JJ better be ready.
And to think
Yeah seriously.
:clap clap clapclapclap:
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
OMFG Dudley you moron
Pittsburgh's
During the post game
I wish I had this firing power
i can't help but like hargrove
Heh.
haha
by Dylan @ Lookout Landing on Apr 25, 2007 8:53 PM PDT reply actions
PIRATES WIN!!!
LAROCHE
to think you guys says hes having a bad day.
Pittsburgh steals one in, well, Pittsburgh.
No
And the Mariners
wow
that was a horrible call
Hahahaaha he was safe by a mile
by WAB on Apr 25, 2007 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
Haha
Uh, first base ump...
Yang. He was totally safe.
winning cheap
Suck on that Oakland
Thats why we call him turbo
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2007 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I got it at
wow!
by mark s @ Lookout Landing on Apr 25, 2007 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres lose
Post game interview with the outfield drummer
Soooooo
Methinks there will be a few more hits and runs in that game.

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