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So to answer the age-old question, yes, some good can come out of the day when Felix goes on the DL. Only very small bits of good, but good nonetheless.

Biggest Contribution: JJ Putz, +38.3%
Biggest Suckfest: Cha Baek, -19.0%
Most Important At Bat: Ichiro triple, +20.9%
Most Important Pitch: Blalock homers, -13.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +54.7%
Total Contribution by Position Players: -7.1%

(What is this?)

I was going to write up a full standard recap, but then I had to go somewhere unplanned for two hours and it kind of ate into my schedule. So, bullet points!

  • For the first three innings, this was looking like every other game we've had recently, at least on the offensive side of the ball - twice the Mariners were able to get the leadoff man in scoring position, and twice they came up empty. That's what happens when you have a team that's batting .239 with runners in scoring position. And while my initial reaction was "oh, that'll even out over time" since their overall numbers are better, it occurred to me that the guys who're keeping the overall numbers afloat aren't the guys who're coming to the plate in run-scoring situations. No, it's people like Ichiro and Johjima getting on base, and people like Beltre and Vidro and Guillen failing to drive them in. Yeah, it will get better just due to regression to the mean, but it's going to keep being a problem until the run-producing hitters in the middle of the lineup start doing their jobs. Right now, Guillen and Beltre alternate looking terrible, and Vidro just doesn't have the pop to cut it as a #3 hitter. Until one or two of the core guys get straightened out, you should continue to expect a ton of stranded baserunners. Fourth inning aside, Ichiro can't do everything by himself.
  • You know what the biggest problem is with the lineup? Here it is, in one picture:

    Look at the FSN Tracker in the lower right. When this screengrab was taken, Richie had seen 11 pitches in the at bat. Eight of them were balls. He swung at five of them, which is why he's only in a full count here, rather than standing on first. You can see how big of an issue this is when you consider that Richie's supposed to draw the most walks on the roster. That said, I'm not trying to single him out; the entire batting order has this problem, aside from Jose Vidro - who can't do anything with strikes anyway - and Jamie Burke, who just, um, whatever (his fourth inning AB was terrific, strikeout be damned). This is a lineup that goes up there being aggressive and ends up bailing the pitcher out because, other than Ichiro, nobody on the team has the kind of plate coverage necessary to make a guy pay for a pitch off the plate. It's almost embarrassing to watch Beltre swing through a slider in the dirt or Betancourt pop up on a pitch at his eyes. Everyone in this batting order is going to end the season with respectable numbers, but with the way things are going, any smart pitcher who's able to locate the ball where he wants is going to tear this lineup apart.

  • Cha Baek is a manager's favorite kind of back-of-the-rotation pitcher. Not because he's anything special, but because he throws a ton of strikes and makes the defense do the work. Nothing gets under a coach's skin more than falling behind in the count or issuing a bunch of walks. Remember Lou? If you consistently put the ball over the plate, managers can say things like "oh, the hitters just had a good day," or "balls were just falling in between the fielders." Miss the zone all the time, though, and that's solely the fault of the guy on the mound. I mean, just look at what Hargrove had to say after the game:
    "I though he was good," said manager Mike Hargrove of Baek's performance. "He didn't get tired, I think he started trying to do too much in the fourth and the fifth and got himself in trouble. On the whole he was good."

    "Trying to do too much" is manager-speak for "started getting too pretty." When Baek was out there just putting the ball over the plate, Hargrove loved it. That's obviously not the approach of a particularly successful pitcher, and it's why the organization doesn't hold Baek in real high esteem, but you better believe that Hargrove wouldn't mind a little more of Baek at the expense of the other assclowns in the rotation. If someone gets hurt or ineffective and a more permanent spot opens up, I think we know who we'll be seeing. It may or may not be the best idea, but it's what gives the manager the most confidence.

  • Speaking of Baek, I've never seen a pitcher who looks so absolutely terrified in my entire life. It's not so much the body language as it is the facial expression; Baek legitimately looks like a man who's in the early stages of being delivered the worst news in the history of the world. Observe:

    Contrast this with Kevin Millwood, who appears to display nothing but bitter contempt for everyone around him when he pitches. I wonder if it might not be part of why Baek succeeds - when the batter goes up to the plate, he sees Baek looking like spooked cattle and assumes that something horrible is about to happen. Fearing for both his own safety and for the welfare of his family back home, the batter is no longer able to concentrate on the pitch, and he pops it up quickly so he can return to the dugout and call his wife.

    If I didn't know any better, I'd say it almost looks like Baek took Acting 101 from Mike Scioscia but, like any young amateur, struggles to convey the right emotion through facial subtleties. Scioscia's the master - he's able to appear bewildered and innocent through nothing more than a simple raising of the eyebrows. Baek, though, is prone to exaggeration because he's not comfortable with the finer muscle movements and doesn't understand how powerful they can be, even in small doses. Before any given pitch it's like he's one more stroke of bad luck away from breaking down and weeping on the field. This does not instill one with much confidence.

  • JJ Putz is not 100%, and he's not going to get to 100% for as long as he's on the active roster. Today he threw about ten straight 93mph fastballs and never once flashed anything offspeed. I don't want to jump the gun, since 85% of JJ Putz is better than 95% of the rest of the league's relievers, but this could be trouble. While praying to see him throw a 90mph splitter in his next appearance, remember to be thankful for everything he's already provided.
  • Highlight of the day: Brandon Morrow in the bottom of the fifth. Inheriting two on and one out, Morrow promptly uncorked a wild pitch and went on to intentionally walk Hank Blalock to load the bases for one of the hottest hitters in baseball in Ian Kinsler. Morrow blew him away. Blew away Nelson Cruz, too. Nothing but heat. The stadium radar gun got as high as 98 (101 on Fox Sports), and neither Kinsler nor Cruz could catch up. It was like watching Putz from last September, actually. Morrow didn't dick around - he just came right after the hitters with the best he had to offer and dared them to make him pay. They couldn't.

    So that was neat. But then things changed. Morrow stayed in the game, but he started featuring different stuff. He flashed a breaking ball, and his fastball was down in the 92-94 range. After escaping the initial jam, Morrow pitched his appearance like a starter. And I gotta say, I wasn't impressed. He couldn't locate his slider or splitter for his life, and his fastball lost so many ticks that it was no longer anything resembling a plus pitch. He was basically an average fastball guy with little else to offer, and once the velocity came down he promptly stopped missing bats. That's bad, and it's bad for two reasons. One, it means he isn't nearly as developed as the coaching staff thinks he is, and he still needs a lot of work before he's ready to help this rotation. And two, everyone's going to remember him for his two strikeouts in the fifth inning and bring them up anytime anyone dares to suggest moving Morrow back to the minors. "Look how much he can help us right now," they'll say. "Why would you want to lose that on purpose?"

    And this is where it starts. Bavasi has an obligation to do what's in the best interests of the organization, but Hargrove and the rest of the coaching staff are much more short-sighted, so there's a potential conflict here. After those two strikeouts, the coaches aren't going to let Morrow go without a fight, so if Bavasi decides that he wants to see him working every five days in Tacoma or Tennessee, he'll have to demonstrate the kind of power and authority he's been reluctant to do in the past. The pigeonholing that everyone feared when Morrow first came up is more likely now than it was a few hours ago. It's incredibly silly, but that's how these things work. Me, I'm not ready to settle for Morrow as the new Fernando Rodney, but all I can really do is hope.

    Remember: firing Hargrove isn't just about wins and losses. It's also about the future. Simply put, we can't allow a man whose job status changes by the day determine the development path of a pitcher who's supposed to help us for the better part of a decade. If Bavasi lets Morrow's two strikeouts sway the organization's judgment of his most appropriate role, then he's failed as a GM.

  • Ichiro's slugging .532. The man continues to evolve.

Jarrod Washburn and Vicente Padilla tomorrow at 11:05am PDT. At 6.00, Padilla would have the third-best ERA in our starting rotation.

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with everything else aside
Congrats to Brandon Morrow on his first W!!..hopefully there will be a lot more of those in the future!

Im still a little confused on why Grover has too or is short-sighted with Morrow.  I know his goal is to win now and if he doesn't hes probably out of job. If I were in Grover's shoes I'd obviously have a major focus on winning now and I would do everything in my power to make that happen, however I would never put the career or future of a very talented pitcher in jeopardy, im not saying Morrow's career is in jeopardy, but rushing him like this is risky.

If im the manager my goal is to win now, but im not gonna play anyone hurt or push a prospect for my own gain.  I'd rather be fired and in 5 years have people say "Wow im glad MFAN didn't rush Morrow, or have Felix pitch with a broken arm while he was here, because our rotation is awesome now!!" as opposed to people saying "we may have been close back in 2007, but FUCK MFAN had to rush Morrow to the bigs for his own gain! and now Morrow is getting shelled every game!"

I think the problem is that Hargrove doesn't view rushing Morrow to the bigs as a problem, he feels this is win/win, it's an experience that will help Morrow and something that will help the team now.

by MFAN on Apr 24, 2007 12:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I think it'd be funny
if your actual managerial name was MFAN.

by Gomez on Apr 24, 2007 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol
on the back of the jersey it just says (in all caps) MFAN..no one in the media ever finds out my real name, they just go by the blog name.

by MFAN on Apr 24, 2007 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can imagine the road announcers
butchering the pronunciation.

And here come muhfan to pull Jarrod Washburn...

by Gomez on Apr 24, 2007 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta say, unless he slows down between now
and then, I almost would rather Felix pitch around him, because I'm not even sure if Felix can stop him right now.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 24, 2007 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ooooo...how about a potential A-Rod vs Weaver
They will probably have to restrict flight paths around the stadium and clear out whole sections of the outfield bleachers to minimize injury risk.

A-Rod must be getting excited thinking about the scenario:

1st ab: HR off Weaver
2nd ab: HR off White
3rd ab: HR off Mateo (only if M's in lead)

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless Putz starts throwing good splitters
4th ab: HR off Putz
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 24, 2007 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just figured A-Rod would have been on the bench
After the 3rd monster HR, his arms would have been tired plus he needs to get logged on to the Yankee blogs as A-Rod>Jeter and talk smack.

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 5:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

A-Rod in 18 games
Has more total bases than Bloomquist managed all of last season.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 24, 2007 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm
Well that means:
  1.  A-Rod is awesome.
  2.  Bloomquist sucks.
  3.  All of the above

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can barely watch this team hit.
It annoys me so damn much.

Jim Thome
25 walks in 76 PA

Seattle Mariners
29 walks in 550 PA

Granted Thome is patient but come on....

Its not just walks either.  Do they have to swing at every damn 2-0 pitch that comes their way?  What's wrong with letting a ball go by and getting a 3-0 pitch?

by bigtrain21 on Apr 24, 2007 1:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro == Neat
Ichiro's slugging .532. The man continues to evolve.

This is one of the more interesting aspects of Ichiro's post-season free agency.  If he were just the guy his stats show, I'd think that he's toast as soon as he loses a step and a bit of bat speed.  But Ichiro does what he does with so much crazy hitting ability that I figure he might be able to do something unprecedented like turn himself into a power hitter or something.

I don't think I want my beloved Red Sox to spend 4/65 to find out, but it'll be fun to watch.

by NBarnes on Apr 24, 2007 2:01 AM PDT reply actions  

It's not unprecedented.
Ichiro was a cleanup hitter in Japan and slugged over 500 every year after he became a regular.  Why does it surprise people that he could do that here too?
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Apr 24, 2007 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slugging numbers in Japan
Haven't translated nearly as well to MLB as OBP, if I remember my studies right.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 24, 2007 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your beloved Red Sox?
Get the hell off this blog.

by Dylan @ Lookout Landing on Apr 24, 2007 5:46 AM PDT reply actions  

aaaay
none of that now... There are some very decent Sox fans (a dozen or so), and I count one of them among my friends.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 24, 2007 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

True
My son's little league team is coached by a Red Sox fanatic, but he is a good guy and actually very baseball knowledgeable. He even thinks ESPN does baseball harm by constantly televising Red Sox Yankees and and no one else.

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not possible
I have plenty of friends who are Red Sox fans.  All of them are obnoxious.

by Dylan @ Lookout Landing on Apr 24, 2007 6:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Two of my best friends are Red Sox fans
And neither one is obnoxious about baseball.  Both are very knowledgable, and both hate ESPN.  They do however remain convinced that Ortiz has been the only logical choice for MVP the past few years, scorning cases for both A-Rod and Jeter.  

Also, the slightly less reserved of the two did call for all USS Mariner readers (including myself, I guess, for sending him there) to die in a planecrash after Dave got into it with Red Sox fans a few weeks back.  

However, in sum, they're the best baseball fans I know.  They're also the only two Red Sox fans I know, so it can be a little hard for me to remember how horrible many of them are.  In any case, let me assure you, it's quite possible.

by darrylzero on Apr 24, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I'm worried about Putz
Do you think anybody is going to figure out that he isn't throwing that devastating splitter he was last year and now his arsenal consists of a fastball that is straight and occasionally pretty fast and a slider type of thing that kinda breaks but usually over the middle of the plate?

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 24, 2007 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah... it's been in the back of my mind
But I was kind of hoping that he was just saving it for when he needs it. There's no way he can be handed the ball in the ninth if all he has to offer is a fast-ish four seamer. But I doubt he's concealing any injury - he doesn't seem to have the guile to do so. If something is bothering him, likely the coaches know and he's being monitored.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 24, 2007 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

While I can hope
that all these off days are just leaving him with a ton of rust and he isn't looking to use the splitter until he can start pitching every other day again...

... part of me worries that, yes, he is hurting aned he isn't saying anything.

by Gomez on Apr 24, 2007 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can you guys ask
Scrappy to stay in Seattle?
A's fan-hence the "A"

by mikeA on Apr 24, 2007 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Stay?
I'm already working on shipping him to a Mr. A.Rodriguez in New York City.

by Gomez on Apr 24, 2007 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get why Seattle fans are still bitter
over A-Rod.  I'd take him back in a second...I really want A-Rod to continue his success this year...and then hopefully walk the fuck away from NY.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 24, 2007 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah really.
It's time to get over A-Rod guys.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 25, 2007 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never really saw him play
So the only reason I want him to do badly is because he plays for a team I don't like.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 25, 2007 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm not bitter
but that doesn't mean I'm not going to send him Scrappy.  LOL.

by Gomez on Apr 25, 2007 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I missed something
but on FSN in the 6th, 7th, and 8th inning I thought Morrow was still hitting 95 quite frequently on the gun, I just went back and opened up MLB Gameday and the speed they had on his fastball in the 8th inning was still up around 95.  My thoughts about him locating his slider and split are this, its hard to judge whether they are good pitches are not at this point, in a couple of his earlier appearances his slider looked pretty good, but yesterday was a very windy day and it seemed all the pitchers were struggling with their secondary pitches, it was the first time he'd been extended that many pitches, and his secondary pitches weren't something he really needed because even though they were getting wood on his fastball the last 3 innings, he was still able to jam them and keep them from getting good wood on it.  I am just not sure you can really make a definitive assessment on him yet.

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 24, 2007 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I say
try this 2-3 inning thing with Morrow a couple more times and see how he looks.  You could be right about the conditions and the fact that this is the first multi-inning outing he's had this year.

by Gomez on Apr 24, 2007 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going off MLB.tv
where the FSN gun is 3mph fast. Morrow's 6th-8th inning fastballs were consistently around 93.

I don't want to make a definitive assessment this early, but based solely on what I've seen, he has a lot of work to do before he's an ML-caliber starting pitcher.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 24, 2007 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that a gun
Or the new video pitch speed measurement system they use?

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.
I'm just more inclined to trust the live broadcast, because his late fastballs were visibly slower than his early ones. They still have good velocity, but it wasn't plus velocity, if that makes any sense.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 24, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figured that
I know they used the video system during the playoffs last year.

They were supposed to eventually have it installed in all parks and it is supposed to be more accurate.

I found the article talking about it at mlb.com
pitch speed tracker

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some Morrow numbers from last night
just because I felt like digging a little deeper:

-5 FB, 2 GB, 2 LD
-3 of first 11 pitches (excluding intentional balls) got swinging strikes
-1 of remaining 46 pitches got swinging strikes

After Morrow extended himself in the 6th-8th innings, he became a very easily-hittable pitcher. It's only one game, but there you go.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 24, 2007 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Morrow got a little help
From a terrible Texas team also. They have a lower team OBP than us and that is just hard to do.

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he looked to bad
he just looked to be in something more like starter mode.  He needs to get down to AAA to sharpen his stuff for being a starter though cause his "starter mode" looks like a AAAA starter.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 24, 2007 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes
I like him and I think he will be good, I just want him to go down and get some regular time. He needs time.

Unfortunately the only way I see him going down is if he completely implodes or he gets some sort of injury that lands him on the 15 day dl with a resulting rehab stint in the minors that turns into an extended trip down there.

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

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