Morrow = the new Mark Lowe

by Peen on Apr 24, 2007 7:19 PM PDT Comment 38 comments

Interesting paragraph.

"SEATTLE: RHP Brandon Morrow's 3 1-3 innings of one-hit shutout relief in Monday night's 5-4 win over Texas has convinced manager Mike Hargrove that the rookie can fill the long relief role held last season by RHP Mark Lowe. "Now we know Morrow can go longer and still hold his strength," Hargrove said. Morrow's fastball was still at 95 mph at the end of his stint Monday. Lowe is on the 60-day DL recovering from right shoulder surgery."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aj_ytV58LmsB5XydBUAktd6FCLcF?slug=ap-baseballnotes&prov=ap &type=lgns

Sorry if the formating is jacked I am not so good with the HTML.

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If Morrow gets

pitched as much as Lowe and gets hurt like Lowe, I will go absolutly crazy.

Serenity Now!

by Coach Owens on Apr 24, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lowes injury had nothing to do with Hargrove

I dislike Hargrove as much as the next person but Lowes injury was not through "overuse". 18.2 IP in 15 games for a middle reliever is not overuse.

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

it would be if he was only on the team for 20 games, but he wasn't, so yeah, not overused.

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by LantermanC on Apr 25, 2007 5:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right.

He only pitched back to back games once.

His injury was a long time coming. Hopefully he gets a full recovery and we get him back good as new.

by Ben in Va on Apr 25, 2007 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn't even an injury

It was an elbow defect that led to a chronic problem.

by Gomez on Apr 25, 2007 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you!

Amen!

"Dammit monster, I ain't givin you no treefiddy!"

by Thingray on Apr 25, 2007 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wrong

just wrong.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 25, 2007 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I remember

back in August or September when Derek and Dave were saying to shut him down or he would be injured. And then they didn't stop pitching him and he did get injured so I just assumed... Sorry.

Serenity Now!

by Coach Owens on Apr 25, 2007 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a good point

When the season was over, guys who looked like they were hurting (Lowe and Sherrill i think, perhaps others) were still being used, and I think maybe they should've been just put on the DL instead of pushing the team to win 81 games

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by LantermanC on Apr 25, 2007 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

*trying

trying to push the team to win 81 games. I know they didn't win 81

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by LantermanC on Apr 25, 2007 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alls I know is

I made Morrow my 2nd starter in MLB 07 the show, and he's 2nd in Cy Young voting to Felix. No minor league guys in the game, so that sucks (Jones is in because he has been in the majors).

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by LantermanC on Apr 24, 2007 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't mind...

...if Morrow became the new Marc Lowe AFTER he gets a long shot as a starter.

As tantalizing as a Marc Lowe is, isn't a competent to good starter better?

by rtang on Apr 24, 2007 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes. A good starter is better

Not a Ho-Ram type starter but a #1, #2, or decent #3 starter is almost always better than a good reliever.

Which is why the Braves are smarter than the Mariners.

They took a good to excellent reliever with potential to be a starter and gave us a #5 starter with potential to be a #5 starter. As we have seen, we can call up quite a few guys from the minor leagues who can suck just as bad as Ho-Ram without losing a prospect.

by Ben in Va on Apr 24, 2007 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still think that if HoRam

performs to a decent level he'll be more valuable to the mariners than Soriano. Starters just log way more IP than a reliever.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 24, 2007 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes....

....but in this case, I think "decent" means #3 or #4 pitcher, not #5 (or #5b). He'd have to be distincly better than what you could call up from Tacoma.

by rtang on Apr 24, 2007 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think this is good

because at least he would be throwing consecutive innings to start stretching out his arm

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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 24, 2007 8:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Morrow's future as a starter

Way less probable than it was two days ago.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 24, 2007 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

So i can't decide where I stand on this news

On one hand I say well that is how Pinerio started (back when he was good) and it is how several teams develop there starters. Minnesota with both Santana and Liriano for example.

On the other hand I have a lot of trouble believing the team has a "bigger picture" plan as described in the previous paragraph.

by Peen on Apr 24, 2007 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Santana and Liriano both logged

many, many innings in the minor leagues.

Morrow, not so much.

by Katal LM on Apr 24, 2007 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree completely

There is no doubt in my mind that he should be pitching in the minors on standard rest. Not isolated 2-5 innings whenever a M's pitcher tanks.

But in the without that option (so chosen by the M's front office) this is where we stand.

by Peen on Apr 24, 2007 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ignoring that Morrow should be a starter...

this is good news, because he's probably the best non-Putz reliever in the bullpen. The more he pitches, the better the team will be.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 24, 2007 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beginning as a reliever is not uncommon.

Tons of teams let their starting prospects get their feet wet like this.

The difference is that those prospects have a lot of starting experience under their belts in the minors to ease the eventual transition out of the bullpen. Morrow doesn't. If the team decides to let him work in relief for a while before moving him into the rotation, all he's going to have to fall back on is his time at Cal, and that's not nearly enough.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 24, 2007 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand the worry...

...but everyone's citing Soriano as an example. Soriano, who had Tommy John surgery, and missed a few weeks at a time every year it seems, though we all remember him for his dominance when he was in the games.

Morrow doesn't have an injury history beyond a poorly executed Art Thiel mock article.

Unfortunately, since he was reworking his mechanics and dealing with his body adjusting to his velocity the first two years of his college career, we don't really know that he has endurance either, which is my biggest complaint about leaving him in the 'pen now.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett

by JY on Apr 24, 2007 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only thing that makes me like this move a little

bit is with our lousy starters, he could often pitch 2-3 innings at a time. Which will only help him.

by drm1125 on Apr 24, 2007 11:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm hoping...

Mark Lowe will be Mark Lowe again some day soon.

When I said "Free Chris Snelling", I didn't mean "free" as in send him to Washington for a corpse... I just meant play him.

by DKulich44 on Apr 25, 2007 6:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We all are

and I'm sure that all the king's men tried their damnest to put him back together again.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 25, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm actually hoping that

Mark Lowe will be Felix-lite someday, but I'll gladly take Mark Lowe being Mark Lowe

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by LantermanC on Apr 25, 2007 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry if this has been recently covered

but when is Lowe due back, anyhow?

by zachsullivan on Apr 25, 2007 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In theory, middle of the summer.

In reality, don't hold your breath.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 25, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I heard

that its doubtful that he ever makes it back or thats the the impression that i got from Jeff/Dave.

Were these problems known when he was drafted and could that have been a reason that he went Lowe-r(heh) then he should have.

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by Robert on Apr 25, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

they kinda came out of nowhere.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 25, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just wondering

With teams drafting 50 or so players a year, how through do the players get in term of medical examinations. Do only the first couple of picks get reviews then go on reasonable guesses for the rest because, well they are crap shots anyway?

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by Robert on Apr 25, 2007 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs