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Albert Einstein, Leonardo Da Vinci, Sean Forman

Three of the greatest minds to ever grace this planet. Forman, as you (should) probably already know, is the guy behind Baseball-Reference, an absolutely indispensable website that blows Retrosheet and the late Who Wants To Sex Mutombo out of the water. Of course, I already thought that this morning, before I stumbled across Felix's page and noticed "Pitch Data Summary (Show or Hide)" in big letters below his career stat lines. And...well, let's just say I'm totally floored. I mean, I already knew these numbers existed after reading Matthew Carruth's article at THT a few weeks ago, but B-R compiled all the data from Retrosheet and made it easily accessible, to our collective benefit. Go ahead, check it out. Got the same stuff for hitters, too. All we're missing is a leaderboard for easy comparison between players and simpler correlation analysis.

A few samples:

Felix '06: 79% Cntc% (how often hitters made contact when swinging; includes fouls)
Santana '06: 74% Cntc%
Pineiro '06: 84% Cntc%
Putz '06: 69% Cntc%
Putz '06: 22% StI% (how often hitters put the ball in play after swinging)
Gagne '03: 56% Cntc%
Gagne '03: 18% StI%

Ichiro '06: 87% Cntc%
Sexson '06: 69% Cntc%
Lopez '06: 86% Cntc%
Ichiro '04: 24% StL% (called strikes)
Ichiro '06: 31% StL%

...and so forth. I could look at this stuff all day. If anyone has any hypotheses as to why Ichiro suddenly had a leap in called strikes last year, I'd love to hear them.

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I saw this Wednesday
and I've spent hours inputting this stuff into Excel  the last two days.  
Yes, I have a problem.

by Manzanillos Cup on Mar 2, 2007 6:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

don't worry
at least you don't spend about 3 hours a day driving around taking pictures of highway signs with the objective of getting every highway sign in the state of Washington.

by I'm NOT Corco on Mar 2, 2007 7:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that your new hobby?
I thought it was wine label collecting. :S
Detect-O-Vision

Favor the Bold

by IcebreakerX on Mar 2, 2007 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is my new hobby.
But its beginning to ruin my social life. For instance: I am waking up at 6 in the morning tomorrow to go for a 6 hour drive, so I can be back at work for 12:00. I will repeat on Sunday. Which means I have to go to bed early.

by I'm NOT Corco on Mar 2, 2007 10:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You are one weird SOB Corco.
Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

by Goose on Mar 2, 2007 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah really.
So what kind of lodging is there in Toledo DJC?
Hot potato is an entirely different game when you're starving

by Mariner John on Mar 2, 2007 11:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And what's the traffic like?
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Mar 2, 2007 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to intrude,
but would you e-mail/post that file anywhere?

Google docs?  I don't have any working knowledge on data fetching, etc.

by Trev on Mar 3, 2007 8:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can do this.
I'm leaving for the weekend, but I'll try to do something early next week.  I have a feeling someone might beat me to it though...

by Manzanillos Cup on Mar 3, 2007 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My E-mail
mrprotagonist at gmail.com

by Trev on Mar 3, 2007 9:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap!
The BBref re-design is so effing awesome!!! I can't believe it! Woo!!!
Obviously, you're not a golfer.

by JI on Mar 2, 2007 9:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the numbers Jeff
I think the big jump of Ichiro's StL% has to do with Hargrove trying to meddle with the best batter on the team.

They try to fit him in the mold of typical batters and  get on his case to take more pitches.
While this is an entirely reasonable approach for normal batters, it's not something you stupidly try to force down the throat of a unique batter who's coming off an incredible season (2004). That is, unless you're Hargrove and have some kind of ego problem which is more important than maximizing the potential of all your players/team.

Anyway Ichiro's #P/PA jumps up from 3.51 in 2004 to 3.73 in 2006 (going through 3.58 in 2005). I think this is the reason for the increased number of called strikes that you pointed out. A more passive approach was required of him, and I think this is one factor why his numbers went down from 2004 after Hargrove got here.

Another factor is that the batters like Beltre flopped big behind him and the offense as a whole was weak, so I think he also tried to switch to a power stroke in 2005 for the sake of the team (also I think he always gets a lot of BS about not hitting for more power. If it ain't broke don't fix it!).

(It has to be mentioned that in his rookie year #P/PA was 3.39 and increased and stabilized around 3.48, 3.50, 3.51 in 2002-2004).

I'm hoping that this year Hargrove lays off the BS, and with a better line-up behind him, Ichiro will return back to the 2004-type hitting machine.

by Tom C on Mar 3, 2007 1:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What I'd Look at...
1.  Contact% vs. K/PA -- Who is swinging (and missing) a lot but not striking out?  

2.  Contact% or Swing% vs. HR/PA or HR/OF -- HR% has a positive correlation with K% at the major league level (which is why K's are not as "bad" as people who hate Adam Dunn and Pat Burrell think, but they are definitely bad for minor leaguers).  But why is this true -- are those guys more selective with the balls they swing at, or just whiffing all the time?

3.  K-looking vs. K-swinging vs. wOBA/OPS, etc. -- Is it better to K-looking vs. K-swinging?  Do guys who K-looking more have higher walk rates but lower EBH% rates?

by Trev on Mar 3, 2007 8:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't want to start a new diary for this, but...
I found it funny.

HOME RUNS:  PHI - GREG DOBBS (2) OFF JOEL PINEIRO IN THE 5TH

by patsfan on Mar 3, 2007 12:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

His swing percentages all fell
Ichiro took more called strikes because he swung at fewer pitches overall, strikes and balls.  His pitches/PA has also climbed steadily (about 8% higher than it was in his rookie year).

But what's really telling is this one:  

1st%

21% 2001
23% 2002
25% 2003
25% 2004
20% 2005
15% 2006

Ichiro's taking strike one way more often than he used to.

But he did manage to reduce the number of times he struck out looking, despite taking more called strikes.  He's being aggressive late in the count rather than early, and it appears to be hurting him.

by Llewdor on Mar 3, 2007 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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