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One Year Ago Today

Thursday, December 7, 2006

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- It won't be the easiest sell to fans as a consolation prize. But the Mariners finally broke the ice Wednesday in their pursuit of a starting pitcher by trading for Atlanta Braves left-hander Horacio Ramirez.

The price for the 27-year-old, oft-injured hurler was steep, with the Mariners sending hard-throwing, 26-year-old setup man Rafael Soriano the other way. It's a move destined to be debated by fans, given Soriano's stature in Seattle's bullpen and coming as it did the same day the Mariners lost out in bidding on free agent Jason Schmidt.

A moment of silence, please.

...

This is when the nightmare started. Up until this point, the offseason looked promising. Peaches, even. The Mariners had already picked Jose Guillen off the scrap heap, and for days strong rumors were afoot of a three-way trade that would net us Tim Hudson and Adam LaRoche for Soriano and Richie Sexson. Manny Ramirez's name also came up on a few occasions. It was a good time to be a fan, and we were genuinely excited. We began to consider the notion that Bill Bavasi might know what he's doing after all.

Fail. We barely even knew what hit us. Out of nowhere, Soriano got traded for a pile of crap. A little over a week later was the Vidro deal, followed by a frighteningly dedicated pursuit of Barry Zito in which we were only outbid by the Giants. Throw in a little pointless Chris Reitsma for good measure and in less than a month we'd gone from cloud nine to licking our wounds after suffering through one of the most agonizing letdowns of an offseason we could remember. (Not mentioned: the Batista signing, which was neither good nor bad.)

Now it's 2007, and the Mariners are in a similar position as they were a year ago - a decent team in need of better arms if they want to stand a chance of competing. They've already made their neat little scrap heap addition in RA Dickey, and recently they've been linked to both Erik Bedard and Johan Santana, inarguably two of the seven or eight best starting pitchers in baseball. Regardless of whether or not you think trading a lot of youth for one of them is wise, you have to admit that the chase is intriguing, and that if you're going to overpay you might as well overpay for someone awesome. In short, it hasn't been dull.

But the meetings are over now, and the M's don't appear close to landing either ace. Where does this leave us?

Admit it - you're petrified. In your head, you can already see what's coming. Four years and ~$44m for Hiroki Kuroda. Pointlessly signing some veteran reliever, or maybe using Ben Broussard to trade for one. And to top it off, bringing in a non-Jenkins corner outfielder because they used Adam Jones to trade for some assclown like Daniel Cabrera or Bronson Arroyo. After all, we've already had one nightmare offseason; why not make it a second?

It sucks. It's not like we want to be negative. Like the trade deadline, this is supposed to be a time of joy and eager anticipation. It's just that we've been conditioned to have precious little faith in the front office and to expect them to do terrible things. We've reached the point, I think, where we'd probably be satisfied with something as simple as our GM not getting totally ripped off. That's a low bar, and psychologically, it takes the shine from the offseason apple. I wish there were a way to filter the cynicism out of our brains, but there isn't. There isn't. This is our burden until things legitimately improve.

So what do we do when we have little reason to be upbeat and positive, but still want to find a way to move forward with cheer in our eyes?

That's right. We fake it.

The dread may live on, but force a smile and no one'll be able to tell.

Offseason, ho!

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Hmmm.
So, would signing Schmidt for the contract he got have been as bad as swapping Soriano for a Ho?  

I'm leaning towards no, even w/Schmidt down with an injury...

"I restore a sense of childlike wonder to people's lives; you give them Zunes and Vista." -- Fake Steve Jobs to Borg employees

by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2007 3:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I read the command: Off Ho.
I'm game.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 7, 2007 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hey
At least we lost out in bidding on free agent Jason Schmidt!

by chaney on Dec 7, 2007 4:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The winning season sorta tempered thing s a bit
But, I almost puked in my mouth when I first heard of the Zito offer.  

HoroRam and Vidro, as bad as they were, did not represent the same kind of long term doom Zito's contract would have caused.

Go Fo Broke!

by eknpdx on Dec 7, 2007 4:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yet.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 7, 2007 4:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a moment of silence over this I would...
A) Accidentally shoot myself in the face.
B) Tie a porkchop around my neck and run across Jose Vidro's lawn.
C) Try to catch bricks with my teeth.

Seriously, with the Bedard thing, if we give them remotely what they want, why not just go after Santana full throttle?

The Orioles asked for Kemp, Kershaw, and LaRoche from the Dodgers. Of course they were denied. If they want that much, just go after Santana. I feel alot better giving away Jones/Morrow/Balentien/Sherill for Santana than I would Bedard, who again, im just not sold on yet.

by Slica on Dec 7, 2007 5:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A date that will live in infamy.
What do I look like, a guy who's not lazy?

by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 7, 2007 5:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pearl Harbor vs. 2006 Offseason moves
More devastating to a group: Pearl Harbor pissed off yet managed to galvanize Americans.  The 2006 offseason moves pissed off and drove Mariners fans to drink; a lot.  Edge: PH.

Long-lasting effects: Pearl Harbor precipitated the U.S. entry into WWII.  The 2006 offseason moves led to a turbulent season characterized by a disappointing August collapse, and who knows what's in store.  Edge: '06 Offseason.

There we have it - the more important December 7 of all time, is, well, an absolute tossup.

by andrewgolfsalot on Dec 7, 2007 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow.
I did not realize they were the same day. Good catch.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 7, 2007 7:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

God last offseason sucked
For the record, I'm totally ok with us punting 08 in order for us to sustain some semblance of long term success. Bavasi might not have that type of flexibility , so this likely is going to make me :(

by Robert on Dec 7, 2007 7:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

M's win the division
If that three-way trade went down.

by patsfan on Dec 7, 2007 9:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No.
Definitely not "Offseason, ho!"

More like offseason anything but Ho.  Please god not another one like Ho.

by Nadingo on Dec 7, 2007 9:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Off topic Question
Is there any possibility that Jeff Clement starts the '08 season as the Mariners starting first baseman? I don't even know if he can play 1st, but it seems like he could learn. Maybe a platoon with big Richie?

by tristolio on Dec 8, 2007 2:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It'd be a complete waste of Clement
Worse than having Morrow in the pen in 2007 by an order of magnitude.

by Graham on Dec 8, 2007 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Clement's value comes from him playing
catcher which is a very valuable defensive position.  It would be like asking Ichiro to play first base.  Ichiro is a great CF because he can field it plus hit well.  Ichiro would be an average 1B because 1B are expected to hit well.

I also doubt Clement is ready to hit in the majors.  He's probably gonna have another year (at least) to prove he can be a catcher defensively and that will give him plenty of time to improve as a hitter (which he also probably needs).

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2007 3:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Jeff?
You can't edit comments, right?

Because you smell.

by Graham on Dec 8, 2007 3:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think he can delete them
Which means these will be deleted as well.

Fat Girls need loving too.

by Robert on Dec 8, 2007 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC
he can only edit his own comments

by Matthew on Dec 8, 2007 6:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You misspelled "left pinky"
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 8, 2007 6:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I could off swore he deleted Corco's post
Speaking of which, we should be expecting an explosion of Idaho propaganda any second now.

by Robert on Dec 8, 2007 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

[sic]
He did.

And Corco is banned from talking about Idaho for 4 or 5 more days.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 8, 2007 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You better be careful
If he can change threads, all your previous threads will be changed to "I take it in the arse."

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2007 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh
I think DMZ would frown upon it if I did that to his USSM comments.

by Graham on Dec 8, 2007 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dear god.
Please do. That would be hilarious.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 8, 2007 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I promised not to go insane with power
Sorry!

Instead, I've just been amusing myself by changing Jeff's comments from the mildly disparaging remarks about my hygeine he actually wrote to one which praises my gloriousness and general badassery.

by Graham on Dec 8, 2007 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HA - you did that?
I was wondering why Jeff was so complimentary.
Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 8, 2007 7:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More reasons to hate the offseason
Checking on the PI for any new articles, I see some post on the side asking if we would the following trade:

Balentien + Reed/Morse + Broussard (to 'sweeten' it) to SF for Cain, Lowry, or Lincecum.

Of course this is a Mariner fan. He later responded to his own topic thinking Lowry or Cain would be easier to pry than Lincecum (I disagree with Cain being easier to pry).

My head is in knots. Much like Ricky Hatton's.

by Slica on Dec 8, 2007 11:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

December Dread
"Admit it - you're petrified. In your head, you can already see what's coming."

Things could turn out alright! Stop laughing! They could!

by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Dec 9, 2007 9:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Fassero
Attempting comeback. He is 45 and not Roger Clemens. I like his chances.

by Slica on Dec 9, 2007 11:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Depressing, but hilarious.
I just read this comment from Goose:

http://lookoutlanding.com/comments/2006/12/5/23228/3986/13#13

Where is Ramirez on the Atlanta starting 5? Number 6. Hooray, we got a number 6.

I'm glad I wasn't around here then. I'm afraid if I had been that involved at the time, I would not be around right now.

Jose Vidro (DH - Ms) was arrested today in an Idaho Bathroom for having a wide stance and sucking.

by Librocrat on Dec 9, 2007 11:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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